Some engineering history facts: the major factor that stopped Babbage realizing the machine was in large part, lack of precision engineering standards at the time. There were no standard screw threads nor standardized drill sizes. Joseph Clement, the brilliant machinist who actually did the building - and drafting - for Babbage - recognised this, but it was his student, Joseph Whitworth, who achieved this goal - and was knighted for it, it wa of such economic importance. Hence, until adopting metric, British threads were called Whitworth, or BSW - British Standard Whitworth,
It is what computer science calls "Turing-Complete", so if you built a version the size of a small country, and devise some sort of mechanical screen, and a compiler to output Babbage camshaft designs, yes, you could run portal, at 1 frame per year or something.
Amazing. Just proves my long standing theory that humanity has not only been behind by 10-20 years at any given time, but is a solid 2 centuries behind where we could have been...If only things had been slightly different, and Babbage had gotten the full funding he needed in the 1820s-1830s. GReat vid!!!
You only need one difference engine to produce a tabulated book of results which can then be copied as many times as needed. Considering the amount of time that would have been spent in those days trying to calculate the same problems (BY HAND I might add) this would be well worth it because of the time saved and the inherent accuracy in the results which reduce errors.
_The Difference Engine,_ by Bruce Sterling & William Gibson, is a great read and a spectacular take on what could've been had this machine existed back when Babbage dreamed it up.
Digital doesn't mean 'uses electricity'. Electric things can be analog (like a tube radio) or digital, and so can mechanical things. Digital means it operates on discrete numbers, like 1, 2, 3, ..., while analog means it operates on a continuous range (think a mechanical kitchen timer, where you can turn the dial to any point, not just x minutes y seconds).
Waoh ! Just amazing. Although this is not the first mechanical computer as is often thought, in fact the Greeks built the first known mechanical computer about 2000 years previously with the antikythera
I ran across this old digital computer patent 3190554 where it ran on compressed air instead of electricity. Was it ever built and used for anything? Could one be built today using 3D printing? If Babbage had gone the route, could he have had his Difference Engine built by the folks who made pipe organs?
On compressed air, really? Amazing.. Did that patent used to built the digital computer ever, like, for mass production? Or maybe only the demo version?
@@masakadasih Hi ! Check out this post at 8:12 where I was looking for the only FLOWDAC that was built. ruclips.net/video/5qgxsJp8MZk/видео.html I still hope somebody 3D prints up a FLOWDAC for a You Tube post. If you Google patent 3190554 and check the links there seems to be lots of ideas for a compressed air digital computer. I.B.M. was even into it.
Babbage created the class definition for the difference engine But he defined an abstract class, which could not be instantiated until someone overrode his definition with a superclass containing methods for creating precise mechanical parts. The superclass still needed to be instantiated on a platform that could execute the constructor without throwing an InsufficientFunding exception
mathematically approved blueprint. but will it blend? haha. It happens all the time, you can prove it on paper but theres no way we can conduct the actual experiment.
I would kill to have Ada Lovelace and Charles Babbage be resurrected again and marvel at their machine and what they've impacted on the world. And hopefully, they'd be able to finish their analytical engine.
clock freq. is measured in Hertz, which is cycles per second.4 cycles per calc., I imagine it would take about 2 seconds to turn the handle and its 1 cyc per turn : 2 x 4 = 8Hz = 0.000008Mhz "RAM" wise it wud only have enough to contain the 31 digits required plus any carry bits - too tired to work out but it would be no more than 62 digits. As 1 digit is 1 bit then u have at most 62 bits which is nearly 64 bits which is nearly 8 bytes (8 bits in a byte). This is just under 0.00006MB.
A computer back then (19th century) meant a person who's job was to calculate numbers (compute) and produce these mathematical tables (1:15) . This machine was supposed to do the same job, hence it is a mechanical computer (as opposed to a human one). :)
I think we are missing the bigger point. This is the beginning of the idea that machines can be used for calculations. The next step after the slide rule and the abacus. The industrialization of calculation.
The schematics were created by Babbage. Maybe he didn't have the funds. Or maybe it wasn't feasible to make at the time. But it's still Babbage's engine.
@privateworldofwarft If the analytical engine could be built of nanoscale parts, and cranked as fast as it would go w/o tearing apart, you might get speeds comparable to today's desktops. I think. I'm just kind of bubbling with possibilities right now, and won't pretend to know for sure.
Once this machine was perfected they could predict the movements of the planets and stars with great accuracy to predict the coming of future events and patterns based on historical data they also had.
You can however measure IPS (Instructions Per Second), however both IPS, and FLOPs (if doable) would have been an stupid way of measuring the performance, as you can increase it by increasing the input RPM.
So this basically the Calculator back in the 1840's if it was invented? imagined if it was, how many scientists could have a benefit and would have discovered more? The possibility of getting us towards advance maths would be mind-boggling! and what could have achieved/invented more? :O
this machine was built recently out of materials that were available back during that time period. it wasn't built in the 1800's. Sadly, Babbage never finished his version due to lack of money.
+Eltodofull2 this is a fully mechanical machine that came up in 1786, somewhere we just entered steam machine era. but this is powered by hand. on the other hand, Alan Turing's computer was 150 years ahead of it. I went to this museum twice and one time there was a guy demonstrating how to use it to calculate deferential equation. seeing all those hundreds thousands of gear moving is absolutely amazing. goose bumps all over the place. But if you are asking how much work it can do compare to Alan's computer. well, hand power to steam then electricity. what do you think? :D
@lschumacher21 Could the crank have been turned by one of the early electric motors? It's fun to imagine hooking it up to a steam engine, of course, but electric might have been more practical. Or not; I admit I'm not really up on steam vs electric in the 1830s.
I dont know... i can fully picture Cletus computing the square root of 987 0.3 seconds faster in his supercharged small block v8 than Billy Ray in his turbodiesel...
The video says one full cycle of the machine is four turns on the handle and not one. Then again, this thing is not a fully programmable computer. It's hardcoded to produce polynomial tables to a set number of decimalsm and it's of course not comparable to any clockspeed microprocessor of today. It also obviously does not fulfil any of Crysis' other requirements; there's no sound output for one, unless you count the mechanical grind of cogs and gears... ;)
he might of created self compiling logic operators who knows. Plus i hate modem computers too.. why don't people make more clockwork computers. I would like to have a calculator like this.
Well, if you crank the handle at 1 revolution per second, this device is would be operating at 1 Hz. -which is about 18billion times slower than the minimum system requirements for Crysis (1.8GHz). Perhaps if you had Superman at the crank, but then the cogs and gears would obliterated by the frictional and centrifical forces generated. In short, Crysis would crash this machine like no other computer has ever been crashed!
today charles babbage might of been the pioneer of the best mathematical compression for computers.. right now these type of compressions already exist but they are soo crap.. either they do primitive function such as replace long exact variables with keys or they try to squish numbers in binary using last nibble as a flag key lol all modem compressions blow.. if someone can compress a self replicating single digit for well 1024 bytes into 1 byte+flag(s) for how much to re-assemble. millionaire
Greed war and ego are what separates us as human beings and what causes suffering and the death of millions. It's not only ludicrous but sickening to view these things which cause suffering and death as a positive. What drives us to be smarter is the quest for progress and advancement, and it's absurd to believe that people are motivated by money & greed alone, or that the human race would become stagnant and intellectually withered without war. You, sir, need to evolve.
Some engineering history facts: the major factor that stopped Babbage realizing the machine was in large part, lack of precision engineering standards at the time. There were no standard screw threads nor standardized drill sizes. Joseph Clement, the brilliant machinist who actually did the building - and drafting - for Babbage - recognised this, but it was his student, Joseph Whitworth, who achieved this goal - and was knighted for it, it wa of such economic importance. Hence, until adopting metric, British threads were called Whitworth, or BSW - British Standard Whitworth,
Awesome. Great info
Babbage's difference engine is utterly beautiful.
I can agree with you
Agreed. Babbage’s difference engine is great.
Babbage’s difference engine.
now thats exquisite mechanical engineering. Babbage rules.
It is what computer science calls "Turing-Complete", so if you built a version the size of a small country, and devise some sort of mechanical screen, and a compiler to output Babbage camshaft designs, yes, you could run portal, at 1 frame per year or something.
But could it run crysis?
@@kingdomofvinland8827 I mean, even the Nintendo Switch runs Crysis. It's the remastered version, too.
Amazing. Just proves my long standing theory that humanity has not only been behind by 10-20 years at any given time, but is a solid 2 centuries behind where we could have been...If only things had been slightly different, and Babbage had gotten the full funding he needed in the 1820s-1830s. GReat vid!!!
Yes! We have always been intelligent and capable of amazing things, but the lack of resources and foundation of knowledge are what let us down
@@phoebexxlouise Yea.. and the authority to use funds, resources all under some people up there. Sadly, their decision sometimes led us to our loss.
What about Antikythera mechanism
The creator of the Antikythera mechanism was arguably the first computer technician. 2500 years ago.
1800s
@@mohammedalamin6264 : ruclips.net/video/UpLcnAIpVRA/видео.html
I think your timing is just a bit off...just a bit
You only need one difference engine to produce a tabulated book of results which can then be copied as many times as needed. Considering the amount of time that would have been spent in those days trying to calculate the same problems (BY HAND I might add) this would be well worth it because of the time saved and the inherent accuracy in the results which reduce errors.
_The Difference Engine,_ by Bruce Sterling & William Gibson, is a great read and a spectacular take on what could've been had this machine existed back when Babbage dreamed it up.
... We're going to demonstrate how it works. [ Video ends ] GRRRRRR
Where is the complete video, i mean, the demonstration.. (-_-)'
Digital doesn't mean 'uses electricity'. Electric things can be analog (like a tube radio) or digital, and so can mechanical things. Digital means it operates on discrete numbers, like 1, 2, 3, ..., while analog means it operates on a continuous range (think a mechanical kitchen timer, where you can turn the dial to any point, not just x minutes y seconds).
My Great, Great, great Uncle Charles. 🥰
But can it play Angry Birds is the real question
Wow, amazing machine and beautiful too.
It's beautiful.
But can it run crysis?
Waoh ! Just amazing. Although this is not the first mechanical computer as is often thought, in fact the Greeks built the first known mechanical computer about 2000 years previously with the antikythera
I ran across this old digital computer patent 3190554 where it ran on compressed air instead of electricity. Was it ever built and used for anything? Could one be built today using 3D printing? If Babbage had gone the route, could he have had his Difference Engine built by the folks who made pipe organs?
On compressed air, really? Amazing.. Did that patent used to built the digital computer ever, like, for mass production? Or maybe only the demo version?
@@masakadasih Hi ! Check out this post at 8:12 where I was looking for the only FLOWDAC that was built. ruclips.net/video/5qgxsJp8MZk/видео.html I still hope somebody 3D prints up a FLOWDAC for a You Tube post. If you Google patent 3190554 and check the links there seems to be lots of ideas for a compressed air digital computer. I.B.M. was even into it.
Babbage created the class definition for the difference engine But he defined an abstract class, which could not be instantiated until someone overrode his definition with a superclass containing methods for creating precise mechanical parts. The superclass still needed to be instantiated on a platform that could execute the constructor without throwing an InsufficientFunding exception
You, sir, are brilliant.
mathematically approved blueprint. but will it blend? haha. It happens all the time, you can prove it on paper but theres no way we can conduct the actual experiment.
Very nice video 👍👍👍
I would kill to have Ada Lovelace and Charles Babbage be resurrected again and marvel at their machine and what they've impacted on the world. And hopefully, they'd be able to finish their analytical engine.
Okay, that's all well and good, but what resolution can it run Crysis at?
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clock freq. is measured in Hertz, which is cycles per second.4 cycles per calc., I imagine it would take about 2 seconds to turn the handle and its 1 cyc per turn : 2 x 4 = 8Hz = 0.000008Mhz
"RAM" wise it wud only have enough to contain the 31 digits required plus any carry bits - too tired to work out but it would be no more than 62 digits. As 1 digit is 1 bit then u have at most 62 bits which is nearly 64 bits which is nearly 8 bytes (8 bits in a byte). This is just under 0.00006MB.
decimal not binary
crank it baggage u legend!
@thekkl No, an abacus only stores numerical values. It cannot "read" or store any kind of instructions, or even carry automatically.
Well, it’s been 13 years, can it?!?
Each time he turns the crank a new angealog is created in heaven.
A computer back then (19th century) meant a person who's job was to calculate numbers (compute) and produce these mathematical tables (1:15) . This machine was supposed to do the same job, hence it is a mechanical computer (as opposed to a human one). :)
I think we are missing the bigger point. This is the beginning of the idea that machines can be used for calculations. The next step after the slide rule and the abacus. The industrialization of calculation.
so, this was never created in babbage's time, only commissioned to be built by a guy alive today
The schematics were created by Babbage.
Maybe he didn't have the funds.
Or maybe it wasn't feasible to make at the time.
But it's still Babbage's engine.
Can it run Crysis?
@privateworldofwarft
If the analytical engine could be built of nanoscale parts, and cranked as fast as it would go w/o tearing apart, you might get speeds comparable to today's desktops. I think. I'm just kind of bubbling with possibilities right now, and won't pretend to know for sure.
Now, I can say that it is right to choose Electronics major than the others.
ok this is epic
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Once this machine was perfected they could predict the movements of the planets and stars with great accuracy to predict the coming of future events and patterns based on historical data they also had.
no monitor or graphics card...
Probably what type of gear configuration we are using inside the case :D
You can however measure IPS (Instructions Per Second), however both IPS, and FLOPs (if doable) would have been an stupid way of measuring the performance, as you can increase it by increasing the input RPM.
So this basically the Calculator back in the 1840's if it was invented? imagined if it was, how many scientists could have a benefit and would have discovered more? The possibility of getting us towards advance maths would be mind-boggling! and what could have achieved/invented more? :O
I wonder what the specs are, in bytes and flops.
I wonder what programs a modern compiler could write.
I wonder if this is how to defeat Skynet.
this machine was built recently out of materials that were available back during that time period. it wasn't built in the 1800's.
Sadly, Babbage never finished his version due to lack of money.
I don't understand much english.
What is the difference of this machine with Alan Turing's machine?
+Eltodofull2 this is a fully mechanical machine that came up in 1786, somewhere we just entered steam machine era. but this is powered by hand. on the other hand, Alan Turing's computer was 150 years ahead of it. I went to this museum twice and one time there was a guy demonstrating how to use it to calculate deferential equation. seeing all those hundreds thousands of gear moving is absolutely amazing. goose bumps all over the place.
But if you are asking how much work it can do compare to Alan's computer. well, hand power to steam then electricity. what do you think? :D
Yes, On the highest settings. There have been a few fatal side affects, while running this program,
I went to London last year for vacation and I saw the staff at that museum playing "Crysis on it.
....???? WHAT??? I'm completely lost!!
@lawiley what do you call the pascaline then?
@stormshaman This was nowhere NEAR digital. It doesn't utilize electricity in any way, shape, or form.
Could machine be the very synch in A.I technology thought patterns or vocal response !
@lschumacher21
Could the crank have been turned by one of the early electric motors? It's fun to imagine hooking it up to a steam engine, of course, but electric might have been more practical.
Or not; I admit I'm not really up on steam vs electric in the 1830s.
There was talk of it being steam powered, I'm not sure why it isn't
What I don't understand is how the initial value is inputed.
Punched cards
I wonder what charlse would make of modern computers.
how fast can you turn the crank?
Reminds me of the training room in Kung Fu Panda
very nice
What is this man’s name?
he's like a South African Jon Pertwee
what i se is "stempuk computer" could it be done? 8 .
@onionofdeath The Difference Engine was digital.
i'm going to design a 3d accelerator for this.
2021 😄😄 who is watching
But can it calculate crysis physics?
Sad that he invented one of the first computers yet one day it would autocorrect his name to cabbage
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man imagine if we played call of duty on this
Why 31?
but will it run Doom?
I dont know... i can fully picture Cletus computing the square root of 987 0.3 seconds faster in his supercharged small block v8 than Billy Ray in his turbodiesel...
The video says one full cycle of the machine is four turns on the handle and not one. Then again, this thing is not a fully programmable computer. It's hardcoded to produce polynomial tables to a set number of decimalsm and it's of course not comparable to any clockspeed microprocessor of today.
It also obviously does not fulfil any of Crysis' other requirements; there's no sound output for one, unless you count the mechanical grind of cogs and gears... ;)
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he might of created self compiling logic operators who knows.
Plus i hate modem computers too.. why don't people make more clockwork computers. I would like to have a calculator like this.
But how fast is it compared to the average mathematician?
Can it run Portal?
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Good not bad
Yes
Please go to plan28 . com to read about the successor to this, the analytical engine, and how it could be built.
It runs Crysis at 80fps but can't handle AA or AF.
wow.. built a whole computer just to print tables in a math book perfectly.. wow these mathematician's don't like mistakes!
Cool!
The full analytical engine would have used three steam engines.
There's a whole lot of babbagery going on here
How in God's name do you get that thing to solve polynomials 0.0 mind = blown
analog computing at its best
If you're a genius, can you settle a longtime dispute- How do you pronounce "Meccano"?
Kann man damit PI berechnen ? *g*
Well, if you crank the handle at 1 revolution per second, this device is would be operating at 1 Hz. -which is about 18billion times slower than the minimum system requirements for Crysis (1.8GHz). Perhaps if you had Superman at the crank, but then the cogs and gears would obliterated by the frictional and centrifical forces generated.
In short, Crysis would crash this machine like no other computer has ever been crashed!
today charles babbage might of been the pioneer of the best mathematical compression for computers.. right now these type of compressions already exist but they are soo crap.. either they do primitive function such as replace long exact variables with keys or they try to squish numbers in binary using last nibble as a flag key lol all modem compressions blow.. if someone can compress a self replicating single digit for well 1024 bytes into 1 byte+flag(s) for how much to re-assemble. millionaire
Who is watching for project like
No probably not, it isn't a turing machine
Can you do something like Charles' invention?.
I assumed you can't do it, so, no one cares. Really.
make a 3d engine for all students can see e move this on own computer.
His the father ot modern computer
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Greed war and ego are what separates us as human beings and what causes suffering and the death of millions. It's not only ludicrous but sickening to view these things which cause suffering and death as a positive. What drives us to be smarter is the quest for progress and advancement, and it's absurd to believe that people are motivated by money & greed alone, or that the human race would become stagnant and intellectually withered without war. You, sir, need to evolve.
2022
That would be funny.
btw i am in 2021 xD
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