Sony A7IV vs Lumix S5II Photography Comparison
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Hey everyone! Today I am comparing 2 full frame camera bodies at a portrait photoshoot. I have the Sony A7IV with the GM 35mm f1.4 verses the LUMIX S5II with the 35mm f1.8. I have a bunch of photo comparisons for you to take a look at in different locations with natural light. I share each of the photos at 100% crop, unedited so you can really see what each of the files look like side by side. Let me know your thoughts in the comments!!
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Sony A7IV + 35mm f/1.4 GM = £4,000
Lumix S5II + 35mm f/1.8 = £2,000
I’ve used both and I have to say that I find the Sony autofocus interface more user friendly. In terms of accuracy of performance and speed I find both about the same. I’m an S5ii shooter (and I love it as a camera more than I enjoyed my older A1 and A7siii). One major issue for Panasonic to fix in my opinion is that tracking and wide area are separate AF functions. It works when you get used to it but I’d prefer the combined way of doing it that Sony offers.
Outside of that there were a few other things that I think were missed in the review….
- LUTS : the Lumix allows you to use the same LUTS that you use for video for stills. This is huge if you want to get reasonably great SOOC jpeg looks with your Lumix. Think of them as more powerful Fuji recipes.
- Better rear LCD - it can get much brighter in bright sunlight and is of higher resolution and a much more responsive touch user interface.
- Better touch interface - the Panasonic UI is very touch friendly
- Video capabilities - the S5ii capabilities vastly exceed the A7iv that I don’t know where to start. ProRes RAW, Blackmagic RAW, record to external SSD, vastly better stabilization that doesn’t crop your image, better internal amps, can shoot in the LUT that you upload to the camera to better colour match an external camera workflow, cleaner video output, better codec and bitrate options, cleaner high ISO, internal cooling fan design etc.. waveforms, vectorscopes, shutter angle etc… It has features that leave the A7siii and challenge much much more expensive FX cameras.
- regarding the lens options for L-Mount. One thing to note is that DJI, Astro and Samyang recently joined as first party L-mount alliance members. The nature of the first party L-Mount alliance vs Sony 3rd party licensing is that each manufacturer in the L-Mount alliance gets full access to the capabilities afforded by the camera to which it is attached. For example, on the Sony if you shoot with Tamron or Sigma lenses, you cannot take advantage of focus breathing compensation (this inherently crops your video). So while it is true that Sony has a larger lens lineup (to date), not all of those lens manufacturers can or will ever be able to fully exploit the full capabilties of Sony’s camera bodies.
- Stabilization - the S5ii provides significantly better stabilization both in stills and video.
This is not to say that the Sony is not the better pure stills body - I think if you want pure stills and don’t care about the other stuff that I mentioned above, the additional resolution would be preferable for certain shooting envelopes. However if you don’t need extra cropping, then I think the S5ii (for my tastes at least) is the better FF camera and likely only going to get better with future firmware updates.
Great comment. I just added the s5ii to my cart after reading
I own both. He is accurate. Sony focused a bit better.
Thank you for this ! Do you happen to know about using lens adapters? Like does continuous autofocus works on the Viltrox EF-L Pro?
Still waiting for samyang to release l mount for this year. Im super excited.
You missed open gate. Which is likely the best resolution to record when you are doing both portrait and landscape video in a single shot. Fully utilizing the sensor size which sony can't do
I like the S5ii
WOW !!! What a great comparison!; will watch this again (and no doubt "again"!) to absorb the differences; many thanks Julia for sharing!
I do both photo and video and am glad I sold the a7IV for the S5ii, couldn’t be happier with then LUMIX. It’s just such a better overall experience that I’m ore inspired to capture.
I switch to mainly using the zone AF mode,that yields so much better results, don’t miss Sony’s AF at all.
Do you use an external monitor when filming video?
@@bjarkisteinnpetursson9736 no, the S5II has, Waveforms and Framemarkers built it, I use them in camera.
What you think about canon r6 ii ?
any recomend for the lumix lenses?
@@Tahaproject
1 .Sigma L mount art lenses is the cheapest and great choice! 2.Lumix lenses, better than sigma , but cost twice more money, and Leica lenses, great choice but more cost than lumix!
i would say you can’t-go wrong with sigma…
Yes video comparison would be awesome!
Hey Julia, thanks for the comparison. I like the S5II but I am confused that they dont have an olfp filter. The moiré is the only thing I don't like. Do you have any tips on how to fix that?🤔😊
Thank you for doing this vid. Have been asking myself which one would be the best chose...
Great video!! I would love a review comparing their video capabilities.
Always great content
Both are great hybrid cameras. But I like the Lumix colors a bit more. Great review, thanks!
Thank you for that great comparison
Who do you photograph these models for? Is it like for clothing companies or some magazine?
Picked up the Lumix S5ii. Been a great experience…
I need some help, so I can’t find any videos explaining the best setting for photo on the lumix, could u make a video?
I can't say I wasn't waiting for this video. The S5ii is not only a superb video camera, but also a great photo shooter. When looking up comparisons, it's just usually not the thing much talked about.
For photography, it eventually becomes a question of lens availability and feature needs of the iser I feel like. L-Mount just isn't where Sony is already, especially with 3rd party support, but the S5ii definitely takes a lead with software features like pre-shutter buffering, sensor shift and custom LUTs for picture profiles if those are things one wants to use. Ultimately, those are two very similar tools, yet still for very different people.
Partially agree, though for a full frame system dedicated to portraits you have all the Sigma DG DN 1.4 primes available in L Mount, so I'd say it's already very good there if this is the quality level that you're shopping at, especially if you're an enthusiast rather than a professional.
Based on that, if someone came to me and asked for recommendations on a full frame portrait system, I'd have to at least encourage them to look seriously at the S5II (where I would probably equally discourage them from going Nikon or Canon unless they were financially independent).
@@apricanephotoyeah exactly, while the Sony lens line up is massive, the L-mount is filled out with all the important lenses that the vast majority of users need so it’s generally a non-issue. The only lacks a few niche lenses and for those who need them, already know this and will buy the camera they need
I cant wait to watch this i shoot with s5ii!
Can you do a review of Olympus 25/1.2 Pro and share your thoughts..
Hi i shoot realestate and weddings what would shoot better video in 4k 60 the lumix s5ii crop or the A7siii no crop
Thanks alot for this, I was waiting for you to drop these Lumix portrait sessions. I'm thinking about getting 1 and just needed a photographer with skin in the game to give it a proper test run. The files like amazing.
Did you get it?
@@tyronnezx Yes... and loving it so far. I have a few S5iix recorded vids up on my page .
@@lilrizq legend congrats! I just got the S5ii two days ago. What a beast!
@@tyronnezx Lumix Gang Gang📸
What camera did the videomaker use for backstage? :)
You've GOT to get a hold of the leica 35 APO SL lens, the SL APO lenses are tiers above the rest (yes price wise as well)
7:00 what camera was this video shot with?
Thank you for sharing this video ❤
As you said, I love my A74 for the extra wiggle room, so I can crop a little bit and still retain the 24MP quality.
I can't figure out why Viltrox hasn't yet sent you a 75mm f/1.2 for review... I searched for such a review on your channel, but couldn't find one.
Julia, Can you please compare or review the canon R8!
Which camera you have used to shoot this video here...?
If you compare photo shoot pf A74+35/1,4, which is TWICE the price of S5ii+35/1.8, and the result is mixed, then S5ii is the clear winner hands down.
For video, S5ii is even 2x the performance with 1/2 a price.
Great Video !
...and a video comparison would be great...
Seems like Panasonic bake some noise reduction in the raw files. The Canon raws seems to my eye more detailed but noisier than Panasonic ones.
Thanks for the comparison! 27k views and 16 thumbs up, RUclips stats are a mystery!
when I shoot a photo with my S5IIX, the screen goes black for a few milliseconds before showing the photographed image. In your video, there is no such delay. Did you set up the camera for this to happen?
I think it is called constant preview, you can find it in the menu.
Very nice❤
Yes compare video!!!!
Hello Julia, found the s5mk2 to have much nicer, more accessible colors on the imaging side than the Leica. For me, Sony's image is sometimes too technical.
Could you do a video comparison please?
would love to know what is your camera profile for the a7iv :) Thanks in advance!
Hi!, I really like your video, one question: In low light scenarios, which camera is better?, what ISO both cameras no grain present?, thank you for your comments!
I hv S5 and I am very happy.
look for the S5ii now as I just bought one for only $1999 with a 20-60mm and a prime 1.8 at 50mm it was a free lens while the A7iv is $2699 with only a kit lens. just ask the sales person and if I wanted then the S5ii also have the kit lens with an 85mm 1.8 for only $2099. I am sure they will have firmware to address your couple of concerns as this camera is so new.
Hi, can you do an video comparation between Sony a6700 vs Panasonic S5 mk2 please ? Thank you.
Im sure in low light situation noise peaking there will be a huge gap. Since s5ii can beat a7iv in that
Video comparing the video features please!!!
Would love to see a video feature comparison between the two please ! 😊
great video. i think Panasonic make fantastic cameras, i have two lumix g cameras , i like using Leica M fit lenses on them.....
if you still have both would be good to see a comparison now the S5LL has had the big firmware update, I hear the Lumix is now on par with Sony?
I do still have both and I have been wanting to make another comparison video! This time with some photos but including more video too
I was planning to buy an S5II mainly for video and was excited for the ability to have an amazing video/photo hybrid at such an affordable price. However, the HDMI input lag was a deal breaker for me so I’ll be going for the Sony FX30 instead. Might get an A7IV for photography later if I need it. Having the FX30, it seems smarter to go with the A7IV as a photo camera because they can use the same lenses.
There is a workaround for the lag, I saw somewhere that switching resolution fixes it, like 4K to FHD and back to 4K if that's what you want to shoot with.
Wait for lumix s1hii panasonic will release this year😂
I chose Panasonic, the operation is more comfortable, the colors are fantastic
A74 killer 😩❤️
It's the video features that send the Lumix ahead.
I prefer S5ii but most of my lens are Sony E-Mount 😢.
These are really great cameras as are most of today's cameras. Obviously, Sony has had a leg up on AF for a while. Others are finally catching up. The problem for most of us who aren't pro photographers is the TCO. When you factor in the cost of good glass, especially for Sony, at least for me they are out of reach. However, one can dream!! Nice comparison here Julia. Have a great week.
Well, if you put it that way then Sony has actually the most options for inexpensive but high quality glass. Neither L-mount, Nikon Z or especially Canon R are even close.
@@Eihei Really? The high quality G lenses are pretty steep. All the lenses I've looked at are in the$1K range. And, yes those you mentioned are also way too expensive for me at least. I would love to have the A7IV, but just not in the budget.
@@charliejg who's talking about the G lenses? There are Sigmas, Samyangs, Tamrons or even Viltroxes, all really excellent and often even better in some aspects than their Sony counterparts.
@@Eihei Hmmmm... that's interesting. I'm really not familiar with the Sony stuff except for looking at images. I especially like what I see with portraits. I just always thought of their stuff as way out of my budget. When I was shopping about 2 years ago just a body more than what I spent on my body, first lens and some extras. And, that was a barely used system. Yes, it's apsc, but it's a very good camera that I get really good results from. Plus, I was able to get 2 very good mint condition used portrait lenses at great prices. I know I'm not getting Sony AF/tracking, but what I have works well for me. Maybe I will step up to FF at some point if I can justify the cost. We'll see!! Thanks for your input.
@@charliejg no worries, I'm quite of a camera gear nerd myself and understand that most people just use whatever they have and shoot haha.
What are you using currently, just out of curiosity?
grazie mille per la comparazione......ho avuto A7IV e ora ho S5ii X ...l'immagine che restituisce il sensore della Lumix è nettamente più nitida e più pulita ad alti ISO...
marco. a davvero ti trovi meglio con la lumix?
La settimana scorsa le ho testate entrambe per diverse ore.
L'af della Sony è affidabilissimo. E preferisco slog3 al vlog.
Note: Samyang just joined the L Mount Alliance!, chances are Tamron and more brands will be joining as well since Black Magic Design might be joining the L Mount Alliance as well with their new upcoming BMPCC camera!, just a current rumor.
L mount is quickly becoming a force to be reckoned with! That being said, everyone on RUclipsrs just repeats the same old narrative that the L mount is weak or limited lens system, but there isn’t many lenses left that aren’t in the L mount, probably really only extreme telephoto for high end wildlife photography. For most use cases, like wedding, event, portrait, product and so on, you can do it all on the L mount…
Yes the Sony has a ridiculous number of lenses, but a huge portion of them are rather redundant anyway
Review a sigma fp L with your style
I heard though that the S5 II works great with Canon EF lenses via a Sigma adapter. That makes it very interesting for me, as I have so many Canon lenses. Of course those also work on the Sony.
if it's the same sigma mc-11 adapter as Sony use then no . average
It's in fact not the same mc-11 as the sony uses, it's the sigma mc-21, which reportedly works very well. I've heard the EF lenses work about 95% as well as similar L mount lenses when paired with the mc-21.
Hlw mam which camera should I buy for best photoshoots
The panasonic is the best for me
Samyang joined the L-alliance, so I might switch from sony to Lunix for that 35-150mm f2-2.8
Even though the Sony is a bit better with autofocus, the moment you want to shoot video as well, the S5ii is a no brainer.
it is not just bit better. Sony s af is much much beter. I tedted both camera s and Sony wins.
The photos from A7IV look insanely cleaner and sharper.
33mp sony vs 24mp. Sony also shot with sharper pro grade lens
but n0 fan and 6k opengate@@daingfaisal
I would go with Sony for reliable auto focus.
s5ii is better autofocus than a73 just save 500 dollars
I think it is great that there are four serious brand options for full frame mirrorless cameras. In the DSLR era there was really only Nikon and Canon.
We consumers should be thankful to Sony and Panasonic in particular (and probably indirectly Apple) for pushing innovative features - in video in particular - down into more ‘affordable’ hybrid cameras. Groundbreaking ‘accessible’ cameras in this context in my opinion were Sony’s A7III and LUMIX’s GH5.
Now that LUMIX has finally caught up (more or less) in the AF department, what do you think the next wave of features will be in this ‘prosumer’ level FF camera? Built in NDs? More AI…?
next step might be reverting back to smaller sensor formats and smaller lenses for photography. AI eases the noise. Sony, Fuji and Canon all have new APSC sensors and that old 20mp M4/3 is rife for an update. Not many people need very high resolution and the smaller sensors have all kind of advantages.
@@hendrickziegler8487 25 mpix on MFT with the Panasonic G9-II, which is the 2nd camera, that was launched with phase hybrid AF. And the first improvements over the S5-II AF also, so hopefully those will trickle back with firmware updates.
S1h ii with internal ND filter
Pls speak on the color science between the two cameras. Reviewers seem to ignore what is an important factor for portrait photography.
The colour science and skin tones are great on both cameras. You can also make up your own mind by seeing the photos I shared side by side!
What color science? On RAW files or JPGs? Because every RAW developer software interprets colors in its proprietary way depending on the DCP profile/ICC profile used. These being said, both cameras use SONY sensors with the latest color filter array, meaning both cameras have the same colors in Lightroom and C1. Aside that, you can always create your own DCP/ICC profiles for any camera in Lumariver profile designer. People talk color science having absolutely no idea of what they are talking about.
I honestly never liked how Adobe deals with colors in their profiles so that is why I make my own, having huge success in starting with top notch accurate colors!
There are only two cameras with better color filters, one is the Nikon Z8 and another is the Panasonic S1R, the last one having much tighter filters leading to better colors, but in practice, when you create profiles for these cameras, they essentially look the same. There is only one camera that is above all commercially available cameras and that is the PhaseOne IQ4/3 100 Trichromatic. I wish all sensors would have this type of color filter array...
@@ilaion11 regardless of what raw converter you deploy the color science backed by the camera maker will have an impact on that .
They may be the same sensor but that does not translate into same color science. Sony also make sensor for Fuji and Nikon but their colors and white balance are way ahead of Sony .
@@OkwyUgonweze you have no idea of what you are talking about. I can have the exact same look of any camera, but again, I make my own profiles. You cannot do this with the basic Adobe Color profile in Lightroom. The only difference a manufacturer can embed in the camera pipeline is the color balance filter in front of the sensor that can and do influence colors to a more or less degree, but even that is negligible. For example, Fuji has a looser color filter while Sony has a tighter color filter, this having a small influence on the red brightness, but that's all.
Are you a sony Ambassador now? Why did you move from Canon?
Is that an accusation?
@@dayeah765caoni3 No Just asking, what to accuse here. Its personal choice.
Just wanted to know if she moved from Canon to Sony because of any sponsorship offer from Sony?
She's obviously not an Sony ambassador. Because still after her brand switch, she had continued reviewing Canon's cameras (R5 and R6). Whereas ambassadors wouldn't be allowed (contractually) to feature any other brands' cameras on their channels, AFAIK.
Who knows, maybe Canon sponsors her continuation of reviewing Canon cameras (maybe with a bit of hope of winning her back) (without success though) 😉
Next to the Canon R6 Mark II, I'd say these two cameras are 2nd (A7IV) and 3rd best (S5II) in class.
I don't think the resolution really matters. The AF and lens sharpness will make a bigger difference than a few MPs. I've compared 24 MP files upscaled (output from LR to 45 MP) and can barely tell a difference to native 45 MP files. I've also printed billboards with 8 MP files so 20 MP or above can get you prints of any size with ease.
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Autofocus is very bad on Panasonic S5II for photography.. Is like the old dslr Nikon.. I am a wedding photographer and the rate of autofocus accuracy is like 50% from total image from a wedding. My second shooter have a Sony a7iv, is rate of focused photos it was like 98%..so if you are a wedding photographer bay a Sony, it's save your work.
50% for S5ii??? either you are a liar or you don't know how to shoot. BTW, "BUY" not "BAY"
Gyaat 0:44
Seems Sony has that green effect on white specifically in the eyes seems that s5ii is way much pure
I liked Lumix is more realistic
Can I have both for free? Thanks.
Skin tones and mp when you crop isn't it imo
This comparison has only one big huge problem: Sony lens you chose is way more expensive than the Lumix one, it costs 3 times more. This affects focus, sharpness, bokeh, colors etc...
You compared a 2300$ kit with a 3700$ one and that's pointless. You should have picked the Sony 35mm f 1.8 that costs almost the same that the Lumix.
ISO 640 looks cleaner than 500 on my a7 ii
as it is native iso for panasonic s5 in vlog profile... and I think 400 is native for natural profile and likes
not a real test . or name it "portraits in ideal light ". Almost any camera on a market now will do great job in those conditions
But you are completely missing the point :) with the S5II you can import your lightroom presets in the camera :) something that Sony will give us... maybe after 5 years :D.
Also lens options for the S5II - apparently it works with Canon EF lenses for stills and video :). This is a huge market for cheap but good old lenses on the second hand market. You just need an adapter and you can use Canon, Sigma, Tamron, anything with AF that is made for EF mount.
Is the only difference from the S5 to the S5II is autofocus? Are both image qualities the same?
IQ is pretty much the same yes!, AF is the main pure difference. Phase detect and way better subject detection as well as in body cooling fan built in.
There are some smaller differences but the biggest is autofocus. Another big difference is the Real Time LUTS.
Seems like a lot of people has buyer's remorse on S5, but S 5 II not so much. Still not comparable to A7 IV. SONY Pros outweigh CONs.
@@myoti9831 To be honest, the cons of the sony system are pretty strong, but yes I agree the sony system does work for a majority of people but the video side is lacking on my personal usage case.
For the S5II
External BRAW (the best iteration in another camera brands camera other than the BMPCC cameras alone), better looking video quality in terms of a much more organic looking video, open gate, waveforms + histograms, luminance spot metering to check exposure of certain locations and not just the center or overall, of the frame?! Like that's amazing. Photos are razor sharp and the AF for subjects are amazing, I just did a portrait shoot and the AF works fantastic only missing 1-2 photos when they didn't matter. REAL TIME LUT MONITORING? I can literally important my phantom luts and expose for them in camera or bake them in without the need of an external monitor purchase!! Internal cooling fan so u never have to worry about heat issues as well! Dual native iso at 4000 instead of Sony's 3200. Rear LCD is at 1.84m dots and every photo is amazing and looks just look what you see on your computer screen upon import. Literally the best IBIS out of every camera system as well.
As for the A7IV
Sony AF is great but occasionally too robotic in terms of racking speeds from subject to subject for video when speed is set high/responsiveness, no BRAW, no histograms or waveforms. 33mp is great for photos but I lean more towards video in a hybrid camera not photo specs. No lut monitoring and requires u to buy sonys overpriced cinema line, firmware updates are gimped on sony systems in terms of features (rip A7S3 lol). No Internal cooling fan. Dual native is at 3200 only. Rear LCD is at a fat disappointing 1.04m dots only. IBIS leaves little to be desired.
I was just at a food shoot for social media and the first shooter had the A7IV and I picked it up and felt the insane difference in grip, I have somewhat bigger hands and the S5II grip is literally god send to not have your pinky fly off the bottom.
EVF on both are the same so nothing to say there. All for under $2000 and you can find the S5II for under $1800 used as well makes it hard to recommend the A7IV.
Sony is the brand I’m gonna switch. 😂
No regrets with my choice for A7iv!
The lens options are just too hard to beat
Lumix is just not that popular here in the Philippines, Sony is king here.
Wish you said Sony and Panasonic instead
The comparison is not very objective, the photos and shots taken are more careful in the case of the Sony A7IV than in those of the Lumix S5II. Both cameras are great and the Lumix now has amazing autofocus, the only real drawback I see to the Lumix S5II is its optics, very expensive and far from Sony's options, at least for the moment.
the sony seems to me more yellow every time
Always Sony
Not good Camera lumix s5ii video sharpness only a7iv good camera
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I shoot s5ii it's great but there are caveats.
1. Panasonic and Adobe still not to the imports working well do you will experience dropped images which is a deal breaker
2. The lumix also has a lack of functionality with hss on godox lighting. This is critical for portrait shooters outside.
3. The support on Panasonic cameras Is ABYSMAL. like the worst brand ever in this regard.
What?
@@luisvalenzuelateran that isn't a question to anything I've written
I have a GODOX system. HSS seriously not working on LUMIX S5 II?
@@piotlecek1 off camera it is not. On camera I'm told it does work
leica better
A7iv blows s5ii out the water in photography y’all don’t be silly
Both skin colours are poor
Color difference is an irreversible point!!
Personally, Lumix colors sucks. East Asians’s skintone becomes TOO PINKISH. Green becomes PLASTICKY.
When applied the preset in Lightroom(Most of them are based on Sony’s), the color looks sick😢
the color of the lumix is a little better.