@@Martian_Manhunter yeah, it's really frustrating that money is a barrier to the best format and wizards actively neglecting it. tough to get new people in this way. tournament hosts really should start letting people allow to proxy reserved list cards and just require non-reserved list cards to be owned in original print.
There is an interaction with It That Heralds and Kozilek’s Command. Steps to casting a spell has you first declaring things like modes and values of X, at that point it’s set and impacts the mana value. After that you apply cost increase/reductions. If X=5 or more you will get the discount.
Yup, this is correct. Brian might have been thinking of the fact that cards that reference the mana value of the card (as opposed to the spell) do exclude Kozilek's Command, since the MV of the card is 2 (as X is presumed 0 until it is proposed as a spell).
Choose X/Modes/Additional Costs, choose targets, apply cost increases, apply decreases, Trinisphere check, then decide how to pay (first mana abilities, then other methods of payment). It’s all very simple really. Can’t believe seasoned magic players get it wrong (hopefully my sarcasm is obvious)
@@stephentimothybennett Just to say this is also not correct, cards which care about cards not spells but involve casting still function with choices made on the stack, one of the best examples of this is lier with adventures (you are able to cast the adventure side of a creature from the graveyard with flashback with lier, and the flashback cost would be the cost of the adventure side), similarly if a card says you can cast cards with mana value Y or greater from somewhere and you cast an X spell choosing X to be a value which meets that stipulation of Y then you are able to cast the spell.
10:45 Devourer of Destiny is definitely 7 mana so it can specifically pitch to Ugin’s Labyrinth, though that’s more of a thing in formats besides legacy
Kozilek's Command and It that Heralds the End do synergize. You declare the value of X when you put the card on the stack. So even if you only have 6 mana with the It that Heralds in play, you can put the command on the stack chooing X=5 and pay 6 mana total.
3:15 Minor note about Devourer of Destiny. It is sort of selection of the top 5 cards, not 4 cards. You MAY put one back then exile the rest. Meaning you can say "These are all bad". The equivalent of shuffling your ponder when you'd rather draw blind.
Herald DOES synergize with Command, due to the order in which cost is determind. First, you declare casting. Declaring casting means that you first determine any modes, then any targets, then any values that can be determined. After you do so, you place the spell onto the stack and move to "paying costs", which first starts with determining the amount of mana you WILL pay for it. Since you already decided at an earlier step that you put the spell on the stack x=5, the card has a cmc of 7 during the "determining reductions and increases" atep of casting a spell.
You had the interaction between it that heralds and kozilek’s command backwards. You do use the value of X as part of the mana cost to determine whether it qualifies because x is already chosen by the time you are paying costs.
Love that this deck is actually pretty budget if you're a modern player. If you substitute the 1-of City of Traitors, the other legacy only cards are actually quite affordable. This might actually be the first legacy deck that I'll get in paper.
Mycospawn is such a dope card! The build I’ve enjoyed seeing it in the most has been Mono G Post, where I’ve seen people cutting reclaimer to run it instead, and the land tutor has seemingly even more utility.
A local to me has an eldrazi deck I've played against a bunch called "spaghetti western" that's eldrazi + BW dead guys ale, he's on some new red green eldazri stuff now, similar to this, it's great.
46:39 devourer *could* kill the painter, but it looks like you'd have had to make a land drop and fully tap out to cast it, since the temples and eye would have a fit at you casting it while it's blue lol
The mention of its history brought back the name it had back when I was CRUSHING the deck as Nic Fit. The first named-topout I saw called it “What About MUDrazi?” It was 2016…
I'm just curious, would the new eldrazi enchantment echoes of eternity be good in the flex slot? I'm probably wrong but wouldn't that help close games if people manage to stabilize? Or am I wrong here
15:10 “I’m not going to Wasteland yet,” he says, immediately using the Wasteland, answering the ancient call of the Stone Rain that pulls at his mind, his very soul.
No respect for the Linebreakers :( The curve of this is so high, lol. Very powerful though. - 00:24:30 FYI. Don't know if it's addressed later, but ITHTE does in fact reduce the mana cost of a Kozilek's Command for X = 5 or larger. It's because you first choose the modes and targets, then choose X, then you check for any reductions/additions based on the chosen modes/values (this is where Herald affects it), [Trinisphere goes here], then you pay costs, and then you put it on the stack. Cool league!!
It's listed as one of my finishes on MTGGoldfish, the game in the video was my trophy match. Currently I swapped the second Birgi for another Jeskas Will, but I will probably replace it with a maindeck Elemental Eruption
Round 3 you interpreted the interaction between it that heralds and the command wrong. When casting the spell, the last thing you do is pay costs. The spell is on the stack as a 7 cost before you have to pay (but if you can't pay the game gets rewound)
46:21 Painter turning your spells colors is an interesting interaction, but doesn't painter also turn itself (and everything else) into legal targets for Devourer. Could you have held onto Command there and kill Painter with Devourer on your next turn?
As much as I hate playing against this deck I think it's really neat for accessibility reasons that this deck only has a single reserved list card in it
Each time you referred to It That Heralds The End as Herald it sounded like you were calling it Harold. Which is now what I call it. Edit: ah he saw the line
You're ~40% to have a 4-of in an opening 7. So more than half of games you'll end up with a 3 mana 3/3 in your deck with no synergy because you didn't start with Devourer. The 40% of the time you do have Devourer, you're ~25% to hit a Scourge in your top 4 look if you're playing 4 copies, so 75% of those outcomes you end up with a 3 mana 3/3 with no synergy in your deck. You're also exactly as likely to have Scourge as Devourer in your opening hand, which means you miss 80% of the time in your top 4 look. If you're replacing 3 Nulldrifter with 3 Scourge, then you're 20% and 14% instead of 25 and 20 to hit. That's a lot of unfavorable math for small synergy and at the opportunity cost of not having better cards in your deck than Eternal Scourge. This isn't a dunk, just a deckbuilding lesson for folks who read the comments. The difference between being aware of a cute interaction and successfully building a deck is frequently just math. :)
You really seem to be scared of them. Reanimating the null drifter... But they don't get to draw because it's a cast trigger. So it's not that terrible. I mean yeah it's an annihilator one, but that's beatable.
Mimic ist terrible. Eye of Ugin is nuts with Fleshraker, you can create some absurd turns with that, chainging Thought-Knots and Mycospawns and Commands into each other
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Do not take this the wrong way but after a few videos in a row of not legacy content its nice to see you are ending the week with my favourite format.
I do curate my releases to center legacy, even when I’m getting more modern requests.
@BoshNRoll well this avid consumer of your content dose appreciate it.
@@BoshNRollAlright let's request more legacy than!
I am with you there. I watch Legacy because I like the format and can't afford it. Otherwise, the only other content I will watch is Pauper.
@@Martian_Manhunter yeah, it's really frustrating that money is a barrier to the best format and wizards actively neglecting it. tough to get new people in this way. tournament hosts really should start letting people allow to proxy reserved list cards and just require non-reserved list cards to be owned in original print.
What a time we live in, when Reality Smasher no longer makes the cut for an aggressive Eldrazi deck.
Nobody wants to see Reality Smasher, we want BIGGER
There is an interaction with It That Heralds and Kozilek’s Command. Steps to casting a spell has you first declaring things like modes and values of X, at that point it’s set and impacts the mana value. After that you apply cost increase/reductions. If X=5 or more you will get the discount.
Yup, this is correct. Brian might have been thinking of the fact that cards that reference the mana value of the card (as opposed to the spell) do exclude Kozilek's Command, since the MV of the card is 2 (as X is presumed 0 until it is proposed as a spell).
Choose X/Modes/Additional Costs, choose targets, apply cost increases, apply decreases, Trinisphere check, then decide how to pay (first mana abilities, then other methods of payment).
It’s all very simple really. Can’t believe seasoned magic players get it wrong (hopefully my sarcasm is obvious)
I came here to say the same thing! The order of casting spells is not intuitive, but it does work
@@stephentimothybennett Just to say this is also not correct, cards which care about cards not spells but involve casting still function with choices made on the stack, one of the best examples of this is lier with adventures (you are able to cast the adventure side of a creature from the graveyard with flashback with lier, and the flashback cost would be the cost of the adventure side), similarly if a card says you can cast cards with mana value Y or greater from somewhere and you cast an X spell choosing X to be a value which meets that stipulation of Y then you are able to cast the spell.
10:45 Devourer of Destiny is definitely 7 mana so it can specifically pitch to Ugin’s Labyrinth, though that’s more of a thing in formats besides legacy
Kozilek's Command and It that Heralds the End do synergize. You declare the value of X when you put the card on the stack. So even if you only have 6 mana with the It that Heralds in play, you can put the command on the stack chooing X=5 and pay 6 mana total.
3:15 Minor note about Devourer of Destiny. It is sort of selection of the top 5 cards, not 4 cards.
You MAY put one back then exile the rest. Meaning you can say "These are all bad". The equivalent of shuffling your ponder when you'd rather draw blind.
Herald DOES synergize with Command, due to the order in which cost is determind.
First, you declare casting.
Declaring casting means that you first determine any modes, then any targets, then any values that can be determined.
After you do so, you place the spell onto the stack and move to "paying costs", which first starts with determining the amount of mana you WILL pay for it.
Since you already decided at an earlier step that you put the spell on the stack x=5, the card has a cmc of 7 during the "determining reductions and increases" atep of casting a spell.
Painter working as intended for the first time 15 years later, making Eldrazi cost actual mana lmao
You had the interaction between it that heralds and kozilek’s command backwards. You do use the value of X as part of the mana cost to determine whether it qualifies because x is already chosen by the time you are paying costs.
12:40 "But I'm just YOLO Squigglies, here comes the Eldrazi shit" hit me good in the funny bone
Love that this deck is actually pretty budget if you're a modern player. If you substitute the 1-of City of Traitors, the other legacy only cards are actually quite affordable.
This might actually be the first legacy deck that I'll get in paper.
Mycospawn is such a dope card! The build I’ve enjoyed seeing it in the most has been Mono G Post, where I’ve seen people cutting reclaimer to run it instead, and the land tutor has seemingly even more utility.
A local to me has an eldrazi deck I've played against a bunch called "spaghetti western" that's eldrazi + BW dead guys ale, he's on some new red green eldazri stuff now, similar to this, it's great.
Love seeing the eldrazi return! Its so good to see my favorite creature type getting the love it deserves.
here's my hot take: The eldrazi (and cloudpost) support is the coolest and most fun addition of the new set.
i can completely assure you that “TKS that boy don’t miss” was not cringe in the slightest, and was instead rather delightful
46:39 devourer *could* kill the painter, but it looks like you'd have had to make a land drop and fully tap out to cast it, since the temples and eye would have a fit at you casting it while it's blue lol
The mention of its history brought back the name it had back when I was CRUSHING the deck as Nic Fit. The first named-topout I saw called it “What About MUDrazi?” It was 2016…
5:00 you can also choose no cards of the top 4 and then the best card of the second 4 if you want with two reveals. Thought knot is great tho
I'm just curious, would the new eldrazi enchantment echoes of eternity be good in the flex slot? I'm probably wrong but wouldn't that help close games if people manage to stabilize? Or am I wrong here
Glad to finally hear some respect for Kozi Command, Phil keeps insisting it's bad for some reason!
It is a Magic card with agency that’s castable in decks full of chungus enabling lands and chungi. Busted!
15:10 “I’m not going to Wasteland yet,” he says, immediately using the Wasteland, answering the ancient call of the Stone Rain that pulls at his mind, his very soul.
I get that it’s for the creature being cast, but it’s funny.
I enjoy BosnNRoll content and I want more.
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You know what? After that round 1 this is just a cool league, no matter what else happens
Is the summoning sickness card overlay new? It looks kinda booty ngl
does it that heralds reduce the cost of the evoke on nulldrifter? if it does ive got some funny brew ideas
No respect for the Linebreakers :( The curve of this is so high, lol. Very powerful though.
- 00:24:30 FYI. Don't know if it's addressed later, but ITHTE does in fact reduce the mana cost of a Kozilek's Command for X = 5 or larger. It's because you first choose the modes and targets, then choose X, then you check for any reductions/additions based on the chosen modes/values (this is where Herald affects it), [Trinisphere goes here], then you pay costs, and then you put it on the stack.
Cool league!!
Awesome!
finally, MMMOAR legacy 🥰
If the person playing the ruby storm list at the end sees this video, could you share your list?
It's listed as one of my finishes on MTGGoldfish, the game in the video was my trophy match. Currently I swapped the second Birgi for another Jeskas Will, but I will probably replace it with a maindeck Elemental Eruption
R1: “I think I’ll queue reanimator, it’s strong at the mo-“ *SPLAT*
26:15 maybe Ko-command? Or even Kocomelon?
Kocomelon is the best one I’ve heard 😂
Round 3 you interpreted the interaction between it that heralds and the command wrong. When casting the spell, the last thing you do is pay costs. The spell is on the stack as a 7 cost before you have to pay (but if you can't pay the game gets rewound)
46:21 Painter turning your spells colors is an interesting interaction, but doesn't painter also turn itself (and everything else) into legal targets for Devourer. Could you have held onto Command there and kill Painter with Devourer on your next turn?
Keep in mind you can also surveil away all four cards off Devourer and take the fifth card of your deck instead!
TKS THAT BOY DON'T MISS
Smoking that rescaminator pack in round 1. What a slaughter
And round 2 damn
Did they change the summoning sickness animation? Wasn’t it smaller before? Idk
It has changed, yes
As much as I hate playing against this deck I think it's really neat for accessibility reasons that this deck only has a single reserved list card in it
Just call it Kozy Command 😁 that's what I've been calling it haha k command just doesn't sound right I agree.
34:14 Am I missing something? Why not play city, sac spawn and petal, tap lands for 4c and cast drifter for 1 off?
Because I only get 1 land drop per turn
Each time you referred to It That Heralds The End as Herald it sounded like you were calling it Harold.
Which is now what I call it.
Edit: ah he saw the line
That’s 💯 what I was doing the whole time
I finally finished foiling out my colorless Eldrazi deck, and then MH3 drops....
How did he get to 7 mana in his first game? I count 2 mana from Eye and City each, then 1 from the other 2
I'll need to rewatch but I think it was yavimaya letting him tap the eye for mana too, so it nets 3 instead
Round 1 - Game 2: On turn 1, why not play out the second lotus petal to play around Daze?
I was trying to double spell with Fleshraker mana triggering off lotus petal.
Yay noodley boys ~
First bro ! Keep up the awesome content
fuckin' pinocchio reference out of nowhere 😂 53:12
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yeah calling it k command is confusing, i'd go for "ko co" to differentiate it from the existing card
What's your opinion on Kozilek's command now that you've played with it? Phil famously dislikes it
At the end of Round 3 was the Op asking for more "modern in legacy videos" like this one? 😅
We all accept your apology
Nulldrifter could instead be eternal scourge who combos well with the pregame effects dude.
You're ~40% to have a 4-of in an opening 7. So more than half of games you'll end up with a 3 mana 3/3 in your deck with no synergy because you didn't start with Devourer. The 40% of the time you do have Devourer, you're ~25% to hit a Scourge in your top 4 look if you're playing 4 copies, so 75% of those outcomes you end up with a 3 mana 3/3 with no synergy in your deck. You're also exactly as likely to have Scourge as Devourer in your opening hand, which means you miss 80% of the time in your top 4 look. If you're replacing 3 Nulldrifter with 3 Scourge, then you're 20% and 14% instead of 25 and 20 to hit. That's a lot of unfavorable math for small synergy and at the opportunity cost of not having better cards in your deck than Eternal Scourge.
This isn't a dunk, just a deckbuilding lesson for folks who read the comments. The difference between being aware of a cute interaction and successfully building a deck is frequently just math. :)
maybe we can call it Ko-command?
Woohoo
Noodle pack squiggle em if you’ve got em
Could we call it Z Command?
You really seem to be scared of them. Reanimating the null drifter... But they don't get to draw because it's a cast trigger. So it's not that terrible. I mean yeah it's an annihilator one, but that's beatable.
I'm more worried about Annihilator than draw 2.
your lil rap was fun not cringe
Im not sure Eye of Ugin is all that good without playing Mimics
Mimic ist terrible. Eye of Ugin is nuts with Fleshraker, you can create some absurd turns with that, chainging Thought-Knots and Mycospawns and Commands into each other
They should unban everything in Modern and start over with a fresh metagame.
Worst take I’ve ever heard
Delve 💀
Nadu would still dominate
it'd be REALLY funny
@Th3eKidd someone forgot hogaak lmao