Enjoyed! Just yesterday I was in a crowded street market….lots of interesting light, shops and people. Spotted a woman taking a number of photos, quick almost at times from the hip and sometimes lower, maybe a GRIII, or perhaps a lx100 or about that size or less. She was quite effective at getting the photos or at least most folks would never have noticed, which I think is key. Small works so well in an environment like that…keeps it realistic without anyone being impacted. Would love to have seen her results.
Hello you two. I really like the both of you and your channels. You are inspiring to watch, the humor between you, and your outright joy about photography. Keep up the good work. Blessings from a 65; year old photographer from Denmark. ❤❤❤
Great to see you two together. I was a professional photographer in uk for over forty years, and I've always chosen cameras/ systems depending on whether they were able to do the job I needed them to do, rather than who was using them since I retired seven years ago, I've mainly used olympus or sony. I 'think' I'm on my final system, which is sony aps-c, but things could always change in the future. For the moment, my A6500 and various sony and sigma lenses suit me fine.
Wish you both had more time to do things together. I absolutely love your discussions about photographers and photography that deliver very useful tips. I also love the little jokes 🙂
Thank you. The only gear-related thing that means a lot to me is the angle of view of the lens+camera used by the photographer. That’s a function of gear, but it is more about how the photographer sees the world with that gear or how that gear helps the photographer see the world. I greatly enjoy videos in which photographers - in any genre - talk about their experience in this way.
I really like this style of content from both of your channels. It's also fun to play with different kit. I've dug out my old Canon IXUS from a million years ago to see what I can get out of it now that I know more about photography. It's nice to work around the limitations . I've also found my old Ricoh 35mm "point and shoot" from the late 80's it still works so may put in a new roll of Ilford ISO 400 and again see what I can get out of it. Keep up the good work.
@@ForsgardPeter Black and white Street photography in London at dusk so can get some great contrast and over exposed street and building lights. As not used film in more than 20 years will probably screw up the first shoot and have no idea if the 36 year old camera has a light leak issue. So should be fun. The camera is an FF9. I am also looking at a vintage PEN half frame which has zone focussing as a photographer friend has had her fathers camera reconditioned and had some great results.
@@mattisulanto Its more of an experiment to see what you can get without all the bells and whistles of a more modern camera. If anything looks good I'll get a big blow up made and frame it. My guess is I'll end up with a blurry mess.
Great content i love photography and being nerdy techy i also love gear and trying to stretch the limits of that gear. Know your gear and Know your technique but make mistakes sometimes it pays off not to be perfect.
Hi Matti...Liverpool Kev here...I said to Peter recently that you are both simply great together!...I have learned a lot from you both for years now and more to the point I always enjoy your videos...Chemistry together and Presentation Skill is not easy...Years ago I worked for a while as a 'Speaker' on cruise ships...trust me...I know when it hasn't gone well haha...It does 'go well' with you two.....Kind regards.....Liverpool Kev
Relevant conversation, and getting stuck in the ‘gear(s)’ so to speak, can detract from making good photos, or, inspire great photos. Though once you find the gear that works for you and is fun to use, then forget the gear for a while and just enjoy taking photos. Rinse, repeat.
One of the things I like about photography as a hobby (not when a pro) is that it’s a broad church, encompassing those for whom it’s all about the photo and they’ve been using the same camera for many years because it does the job for them, through to those for whom it’s more about the enjoyment of the gear and who like to buy new cameras on a regular basis. Neither are wrong but it’s not pleasant to hear either extreme looking down on the other side: the first saying that the camera is only a ‘tool’ and that those who chase gear are not proper photographers; the second group saying that anyone who doesn’t use the latest gear is behind the times and could take better photos with modern cameras. If both types enjoy their hobby, it’s fine by me.
Do cameras made a photographer. Nice watching two elderly men talk about virtually nothing and enjoying life. That's my idea of life with a camera. The most amusing images are the videos of these sitting down and breathing in and out and making small talk. So relaxing. I have views of camera equipment It must fit our hand and eye. Otherwise, you will fight the camera. For that reason, I love the feel of the Sony a6600 and a6700. Some of my best family photos came from those to. They are small and so easy to use. For film cameras, I very much liked my Pentax Spotmatic F I used around 1972. It was the perfect size and feel good for having a typical SLR body. None ever feel good in the hand. The lack of a good grip we have on today's cameras make shooting easier. That's my observation. The exceptions to that problem was attaching a motor drive to my Nikon FE2. Great fee but heavy.
@@mattisulanto Very entertaining and ReFrEsHiNg! That's living and enjoying life out of the fast lane. This is how my friends acted when we were shooting in Japan and S. Korea. We talked nothing important, didn't discuss cameras, photographed the locals and sometimes bought some souvenirs. If people took photography this seriously, we would far more interesting photos.
Hello Matti, I have planned a test phase with the electronic shutter. Modern Panasonic Lumix cameras do not allow exposure times above 1 second and flash synchronization with the electronic shutter. But you can set the mechanical shutter again for flash and long exposures. I want to test whether I'm ready for full-frame photography with the Lumix S9 and expect the full-frame to offer more dynamic range for demanding monochrome photography. Are there any photographers with similar intentions? Is it a fact that ESHTR provides less DR than MSHTR? Anyway, the possible departure from the mechanical shutter should be discussed in detail. Thank you, Matti, for metoring me.
When I do photography, I most of the time do it like Ansel Adams said, I visualize the finished image before using the gear ! But you do need to know your gear well. I do not change my gear often as many today does, I keep my gear for many years, the better you know your gear, the less you notice it, it is you and the image. Today many jumps from one brand to another, follows hypes and trends, so you will not see a soul in their images.
camera gearheads i sometimes watch for fun. i only follow few photography channels but thats just my taste. its like a balanced diet (except mine isnt as much)
A camera becomes "a camera" just as much as it becomes a photograph. The mass of the camera that is not used to take pictures is a weight, not a camera. There is no photography apart from the camera, and there is no camera apart from the photography. A camera and a photograph are not separate things.
I think you might have missed the point of the video. We never said that a camera and a photo don't belong together. What we wanted to say is that you should follow the photos (photographers) you like and not the gear you like.
@@mattisulanto I fully understiood what you guys have said and I did agree with you guys 100%, thus my comment, which meant exactly what you guys have said.
@@mattisulanto Thank you so much for your comment. It ialwys be difficult to communicate with only short texts. On the one hand, there is a misconception that if you buy an iPad from Apple, you will become a world-famous painter or a much-appreciated composer. On the other hand, if you really think about it seriously, the essence of art is that anyone can become a bearer of it. If anyone can be a bearer, then it is not only those who are highly regarded by others are artists. Whether or not you are appreciated by others has nothing to do with whether or not you are an artist. The practice of painting makes you a painter. The practice of taking pictures makes you a photographer. Do more photograph than gears. (Whether you are good at it or not is irrelevant.) A camera becomes "a camera" just as much as it becomes a photograph. There is no photography apart from the camera, and there is no camera apart from the photography. A camera and a photograph are not separate things. Though, it goes without saying that the same one person can be a photographer by day and a camera collector by night.
I’m going to have to say you two are not being genuine. I know pro photographers actually still using 15 or 20 year old cameras simply because they have not died yet. Those guys love photography more than gear. You, I and most on here I would say are right in the middle. Love photography but also love our gear.
I don't think buying a new camera is any indication that you don't love photography or that you are a gear addict. Maybe those photographers who use 20 year old cameras never needed video features, for example. I also think that most photographers who earn their living from photography use fairly new cameras just for the sake or reliability. There are always exceptions, of course.
@@WhoIsSerafin The main message in the video was that you should follow/like photographers whose work you admire regardless of the gear they use. We never suggested in the video that gear talk is pointless. You can be a camera collector and have a lot of fun, like suggested in video😀
Great video, I really enjoy watching you guys talking together while looking at some nice street pictures! 😁😁 Cheers
Thanks, much appreciated.
Thank you both for yet another thought provoking discussion. Beautiful images too.
Thanks for listening! We try our best😀
Great to see you guys together again. Like your comments and interactions.
Thank you.
Don't follow the gear follow the photos, well said Peter. Enjoyed the chat with Peter and the Walkabout. Thanks Matti. 😊
Thanks.
@@ForsgardPeter your welcome Peter
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs! Awesome work guys! :)
Thanks!
Great interview and such a sweet shoutout there! Thanks Peter!
What about me, I'm the one who published the shoutout?😂 Only joking, of course😀 Your channel is great and something a bit unusual too.
@@mattisulanto Of course! Goes without saying 😄
And thank you, again! "great and something a bit unusual" is the best compliment of all 😄☺
Enjoyed! Just yesterday I was in a crowded street market….lots of interesting light, shops and people. Spotted a woman taking a number of photos, quick almost at times from the hip and sometimes lower, maybe a GRIII, or perhaps a lx100 or about that size or less. She was quite effective at getting the photos or at least most folks would never have noticed, which I think is key. Small works so well in an environment like that…keeps it realistic without anyone being impacted. Would love to have seen her results.
Thanks! I'm sure only another photographer can spot something like that.
Such an enjoyable video, would love to see more conversations like these!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! Let's see what we can offer in the future.
Hello you two.
I really like the both of you and your channels.
You are inspiring to watch, the humor between you, and your outright joy about photography.
Keep up the good work.
Blessings from a 65; year old photographer from Denmark.
❤❤❤
Thank you so much!
Great to see you two together. I was a professional photographer in uk for over forty years, and I've always chosen cameras/ systems depending on whether they were able to do the job I needed them to do, rather than who was using them since I retired seven years ago, I've mainly used olympus or sony. I 'think' I'm on my final system, which is sony aps-c, but things could always change in the future. For the moment, my A6500 and various sony and sigma lenses suit me fine.
Thanks for sharing your backstory and gear too.
very interesting and valuable point of view(especially for youngs and newbies)
Thank you so much!
@@mattisulanto no problem...your welcome
Wish you both had more time to do things together. I absolutely love your discussions about photographers and photography that deliver very useful tips. I also love the little jokes 🙂
Thanks so much. We both have our own schedules and errands to run but we try to make these collaborations as often as we can.
Thank you. The only gear-related thing that means a lot to me is the angle of view of the lens+camera used by the photographer. That’s a function of gear, but it is more about how the photographer sees the world with that gear or how that gear helps the photographer see the world. I greatly enjoy videos in which photographers - in any genre - talk about their experience in this way.
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, the AOW is interesting indeed.
Great talk and totally agree. Equipment rabbit hole is not where you want to go
Thanks!
I really like this style of content from both of your channels. It's also fun to play with different kit. I've dug out my old Canon IXUS from a million years ago to see what I can get out of it now that I know more about photography. It's nice to work around the limitations . I've also found my old Ricoh 35mm "point and shoot" from the late 80's it still works so may put in a new roll of Ilford ISO 400 and again see what I can get out of it. Keep up the good work.
What are you going to photograph with your Ricoh point and shoot.
Thanks so much. I'm also curious to know what your plans are with the Ricoh.
@@ForsgardPeter Black and white Street photography in London at dusk so can get some great contrast and over exposed street and building lights. As not used film in more than 20 years will probably screw up the first shoot and have no idea if the 36 year old camera has a light leak issue. So should be fun. The camera is an FF9. I am also looking at a vintage PEN half frame which has zone focussing as a photographer friend has had her fathers camera reconditioned and had some great results.
@@mattisulanto Its more of an experiment to see what you can get without all the bells and whistles of a more modern camera. If anything looks good I'll get a big blow up made and frame it. My guess is I'll end up with a blurry mess.
@@simonatterbury I'm sure not every frame is going to be a blurry mess😀It's refreshing to try something different.
Enjoyable show guys. Thanks for sharing 📸
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
Thanks!
Great content i love photography and being nerdy techy i also love gear and trying to stretch the limits of that gear. Know your gear and Know your technique but make mistakes sometimes it pays off not to be perfect.
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Matti...Liverpool Kev here...I said to Peter recently that you are both simply great together!...I have learned a lot from you both for years now and more to the point I always enjoy your videos...Chemistry together and Presentation Skill is not easy...Years ago I worked for a while as a 'Speaker' on cruise ships...trust me...I know when it hasn't gone well haha...It does 'go well' with you two.....Kind regards.....Liverpool Kev
Thank you so much!
Relevant conversation, and getting stuck in the ‘gear(s)’ so to speak, can detract from making good photos, or, inspire great photos. Though once you find the gear that works for you and is fun to use, then forget the gear for a while and just enjoy taking photos. Rinse, repeat.
Thanks. Yeah, that's it. Find the gear that works for you and then forget it😀
One of the things I like about photography as a hobby (not when a pro) is that it’s a broad church, encompassing those for whom it’s all about the photo and they’ve been using the same camera for many years because it does the job for them, through to those for whom it’s more about the enjoyment of the gear and who like to buy new cameras on a regular basis.
Neither are wrong but it’s not pleasant to hear either extreme looking down on the other side: the first saying that the camera is only a ‘tool’ and that those who chase gear are not proper photographers; the second group saying that anyone who doesn’t use the latest gear is behind the times and could take better photos with modern cameras. If both types enjoy their hobby, it’s fine by me.
Thanks for sharing you insights. Sure everything is fine as long you are not harming others😀
Do cameras made a photographer. Nice watching two elderly men talk about virtually nothing and enjoying life. That's my idea of life with a camera. The most amusing images are the videos of these sitting down and breathing in and out and making small talk. So relaxing.
I have views of camera equipment It must fit our hand and eye. Otherwise, you will fight the camera. For that reason, I love the feel of the Sony a6600 and a6700. Some of my best family photos came from those to. They are small and so easy to use. For film cameras, I very much liked my Pentax Spotmatic F I used around 1972. It was the perfect size and feel good for having a typical SLR body. None ever feel good in the hand. The lack of a good grip we have on today's cameras make shooting easier. That's my observation. The exceptions to that problem was attaching a motor drive to my Nikon FE2. Great fee but heavy.
Thanks for sharing and good to hear our nonsense was entertaining.
@@mattisulanto Very entertaining and ReFrEsHiNg! That's living and enjoying life out of the fast lane. This is how my friends acted when we were shooting in Japan and S. Korea. We talked nothing important, didn't discuss cameras, photographed the locals and sometimes bought some souvenirs. If people took photography this seriously, we would far more interesting photos.
Hello Matti, I have planned a test phase with the electronic shutter. Modern Panasonic Lumix cameras do not allow exposure times above 1 second and flash synchronization with the electronic shutter. But you can set the mechanical shutter again for flash and long exposures. I want to test whether I'm ready for full-frame photography with the Lumix S9 and expect the full-frame to offer more dynamic range for demanding monochrome photography. Are there any photographers with similar intentions? Is it a fact that ESHTR provides less DR than MSHTR? Anyway, the possible departure from the mechanical shutter should be discussed in detail. Thank you, Matti, for metoring me.
Good luck with your long exposure flash experiments.
Great talk.
Thanks.
Katrin Koenning was the photographer mentioned, if anyone was wondering.
When I do photography, I most of the time do it like Ansel Adams said, I visualize the finished image before using the gear ! But you do need to know your gear well. I do not change my gear often as many today does, I keep my gear for many years, the better you know your gear, the less you notice it, it is you and the image. Today many jumps from one brand to another, follows hypes and trends, so you will not see a soul in their images.
Thanks again for your insightful comment.
You both in one video is an extraordinary pleasure....
Your strap is not listed below the video. Please add it. Thank you.
Thanks for reminding. Just added the link.
Nice discussion!
Thank you!
Helsinki is the most photographed city in Europe, simply because every week you make videos.
I doubt that. We can't match all those millions of tourists visiting Barcelona, London, Paris and other awesome cities😀
And yet - this channel has mostly gear videos ;) But great episode! Keep on in this direction.
Thanks! That gear content may change😀
For a second I thought Peter would also mention Pentti Sammallahti, which is one of my favourite photographers (that nobody ever seems to mention).
Sammallahti is awesome but not that well known to wider audience.
People don't remember what brand of camera you're using but remember which photo you have done.
That's what we hope at least😀
You guys rock.
Thanks.
camera gearheads i sometimes watch for fun. i only follow few photography channels but thats just my taste. its like a balanced diet (except mine isnt as much)
Unbalanced is also kind of balanced, just not evenly balanced😀
Walkie Talkie Retired edition (I’m old too, so not offending).
I have no idea what you are talking about😀
@@mattisulanto 😂
more of these
Let's see what we can come up with.
A camera becomes "a camera" just as much as it becomes a photograph. The mass of the camera that is not used to take pictures is a weight, not a camera. There is no photography apart from the camera, and there is no camera apart from the photography. A camera and a photograph are not separate things.
I think you might have missed the point of the video. We never said that a camera and a photo don't belong together. What we wanted to say is that you should follow the photos (photographers) you like and not the gear you like.
@@mattisulanto I fully understiood what you guys have said and I did agree with you guys 100%, thus my comment, which meant exactly what you guys have said.
@@dokugohikken8769 So it was I who missed your point and not the other way around😀
@@mattisulanto Thank you so much for your comment.
It ialwys be difficult to communicate with only short texts.
On the one hand, there is a misconception that if you buy an iPad from Apple, you will become a world-famous painter or a much-appreciated composer.
On the other hand, if you really think about it seriously, the essence of art is that anyone can become a bearer of it.
If anyone can be a bearer, then it is not only those who are highly regarded by others are artists. Whether or not you are appreciated by others has nothing to do with whether or not you are an artist.
The practice of painting makes you a painter. The practice of taking pictures makes you a photographer. Do more photograph than gears. (Whether you are good at it or not is irrelevant.)
A camera becomes "a camera" just as much as it becomes a photograph. There is no photography apart from the camera, and there is no camera apart from the photography. A camera and a photograph are not separate things.
Though, it goes without saying that the same one person can be a photographer by day and a camera collector by night.
omg yongnuo yn455 using mft lens smart phone
That's what makes old white men so attractive. 🤩
Matti se on tää ikä kun pätkii 😂
Näin se taitaa olla😀
I’m going to have to say you two are not being genuine. I know pro photographers actually still using 15 or 20 year old cameras simply because they have not died yet. Those guys love photography more than gear. You, I and most on here I would say are right in the middle. Love photography but also love our gear.
I don't think buying a new camera is any indication that you don't love photography or that you are a gear addict. Maybe those photographers who use 20 year old cameras never needed video features, for example. I also think that most photographers who earn their living from photography use fairly new cameras just for the sake or reliability. There are always exceptions, of course.
@@mattisulanto I never suggested we don’t love photography any less in my statement. I said the love of the gear is just as important and fun to us.
@@WhoIsSerafin The main message in the video was that you should follow/like photographers whose work you admire regardless of the gear they use. We never suggested in the video that gear talk is pointless. You can be a camera collector and have a lot of fun, like suggested in video😀