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Get Out | One Fatal Flaw
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- (SPOILERS FOR GET OUT [2017], BRAZIL [1985], NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD [1968], & VIDEODROME [1983])
This series aims to discuss films that I argue suffer tremendously from a single writing/directorial decision. That is not to say that it is the ONLY flaw in the entire film nor do I mean to say said flaw makes the film a complete and utter crap shoot, but rather the particular flaw significantly reduces the quality of the film and/or prevents it from being far more effective and/or thematically brilliant than it already may be.
On today's episode, we will discuss Jordan Peele's 2017 satirical horror film, Get Out! Be sure to subscribe, like, comment, and share!
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VIDEOS REFERENCED:
Get Out Original Ending: • Alternate Ending | Get...
ARTICLES REFERENCED:
Oscars Genre Bias: www.indiewire....
Jordan Peele on the original ending: collider.com/g...
MUSIC:
"End Titles (Montage)" by Michael Abels from the Get Out Original Motion Picture Soundtack
"Waiting for Daddy / Sam Lowry's Wetter Dream / The Monoliths Erupt" by Michael Kamen & The National Philharmonic of London from the Brazil Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
This vid and the OG ending got me thinking. If Jim got his way and was able to be implanted into Chris but somehow Chris managing to temporarily regain enough control (accidental flash?)to kill the entire Armitage family and to escape only to be arrested as in the OG ending. Then we'd have a massively ironic ending as Jim would have his sight and Chris' body but would be forced to experience the injustice of being a black man incarcerated for a crime he was forced to do whilst simultaneously being responsible for imprisoning Chris in the sunken place.
Great ending, but it would have diluted the "blacks as victims" mentality, placing it more on the family. I don't think many (aside from myself) would have liked that.
Woah
This reminds me of the meme with the brains and the shit coming off them going from good (theatrical ending) great (original ending) to amazing (your ending)
@@superman10501 lol thanks. Honestly didn't think that this was all that great. Maybe I should start writing...
I like it but instead of a flash its Chris exhibiting peak "I've got mine" under the delusional belief he's acting as a hero and taking out the Armitage so no more people can be put in the sunken place
What I like about the theatrical version is how it shows the importance of community and camaraderie when a system that on paper is supposed to protect fails. Rod couldn't get help from the police, so he had to take things into his own hands to save his friend
Overall I agree - the OG ending was a gutpunch, but more thematically resonant. But I think the “happy ending” of the theatrical release has a touch of the grim tone of the original ending, since Chris is numbly looking out the window as the red and blue lights are reflected back at him. There’s obviously a lot going through his mind at that moment, but you can tell that, despite the relief he feels at escaping, he knows this isn’t over for him. I also like how audience expectations are subverted in several ways here - normally in horror movies, the police showing up is a sign of relief, but here it’s initially damning. Normally, black men are not given justice by police, but here it’s his friend rescuing him. Despite the catharsis, there is something ironic about Chris feeling safe in a cop car (technically TSA car but close enough). Potentially, if I reach, the theatrical ending could be pointing out how things SHOULD be (a black man should feel relief from seeing police coming to help, as should everyone else) by flagging how our expectations show us otherwise (we think he’s immediately screwed).
In short masterpiece of film.
When we see the cop car at the ending of the movie the thing that goes through our minds is "ok... He is fucked, there's no way he can explain his way out of this to the cops" but then our expectations r subverted when we see that it's his friend coming for his rescue. We already expect him to be arrested when we see the cop car, so I'd argue that we don't actually need the original ending because we understand what would happen in our reality. I don't think it's vague of me to prefer the theatrical ending, although I think the original cover the plot holes caused by the theatrical one.
Except that leaves the hole of Chris probably still going to jail once the cops come knocking...
Just because our expectations are subverted, doesn't mean it's a good thing.
@@TomEyeTheSFMguy I don't think that's what he meant. The theatrical ending leads us to think that he will be arrested by some racially biased guy due to earlier police confrontation. So the racial commentary is still there but in an indirect way.
I like the original ending because it sort of confirms that... Yeah, what you expect to happen eventually does. I consider the original an extension to the theatrical one, because regardless of his friend showing up to the scene or the cops, he's going to go to jail. We get that bit of hope at the end when his friend shows up to rescue him but as an audience we understand that this heightened reality still has the same racial bias, and know that it's not actually a happy ending, no matter who gets out of that car. (also all evidence has been burned and no one would believe his story... He's locked up for sure.)
@@astroblast2325 Agreed. Plus Macabre Storytelling's point that if the original ending stayed that it might make white people face the reality black people deal face is a bit wrong in my perspective. I don't think the movie should be THEIR wake up call. It wasn't made for them.
I agree with what you're saying and all but I think the key thing that makes this movie even more important is that like you said, poc don't need to be reminded of these issues and it's really clear that Peele's target audience is black people, and that in itself is revolutionary. Yes white people have enough movies that are targeted towards them and used to comfort them with catharsis, we on the other hand don't.
Hot take: I actually disagree with this video! I feel like the meaning behind the original ending is found in that moment in which the police lights flash on Chris. I remember seeing it in theaters and the whole audience gasped as they already knew what those lights meant for Chris, being a black man, bloodied, on top of a white woman. It basically meant, at minimum, prison, at worst, death. Everyone knew that. Having him go to prison in that moment is what was expected, having Rod be there was an unexpected and hopeful moment.
Precisely, but in this case there was still the catharsis. That was of course Peele's intention, but does feel a bit like pulling his punches.
If it is meant to show the harsh truth of our society and racism it's a poor example. There is nothing in that ending scene with him being arrested that is unique to a black experience or our fight against systemic racism. ANY person of any color or race caught in that scene after the police shows up goes to jail. That's not an "Aw shit, here we go again" I got pulled over for DWB moment that a white audience isn't going to identify with or understand. No one I've talked to about the movie when it came out even took that into consideration. It mostly centered on the fact that we had, as an audience, returned to reality.
In horror movies we never see the scene after the bad guy is dead, or when they drive back to college after half their sorority is dead. But we got to come back to the real world after he burned down the haunted house and defeated the final priest or the cult leader. For a brief moment when those lights hit his face we are faced with the fact that anyone in that situation is just screwed. That is why the original ending is perfect, not because it's some unique look at the school to prison pipeline. It's because it pulls all of that subtle racism, that subtle condescension, back into a reality we live in after this detour down to Horror Mansion.
@@midnightfenrir I agree with you but I think the first police confrontation in the movie where a white policeman questions Chris for no reason gives us some context for what to expect in this scene although not everyone will recall it at that moment.
@@febinthomas1133 Well that's more a primer for the audience on what to expect for him going forward. I think it's more of a book end than a call back. Notice in that scene it's his WHITE girlfriend causing the issue with the cop, where he clearly just wants to do whatever to be done with the confrontation. It's low level harassment that he doesn't want to escalate, where she feels justified in escalating it on principal. She's comfortable with "taking on" the system where he's had to deal with it his whole life and just nodds and says "okay whatever". He deals with that throughout the whole film, people telling him they voted for Obama, how cool black people are, etc. It's not exactly "low level" racism, but it's this need to rush to "I'm not one of THOSE" that causes the interaction to be odd and uncomfortable. He awkwardly has to nodd his head and say polite things to the condescension. That's how I see it, anyway.
@@midnightfenrir Yeah, the original ending would've been terrible for this reason. There's no possible, logical way for him not to be arrested at the end of the movie. That situation is so damning that literally anyone in it would be arrested. Framing that situation as an incident of racism would've been damaging, not only because its irrational, but also because it reinforces the inaccurate idea that because something bad happened to a black person, it was caused by racism.
Trying to thematically link some of the horrifying arrests that occur in the real world would work better if the movie used something other than the most logically justified arrest possible.
I love everything you said. When I heard about the original ending I just said "Yeah that's what I thought was gonna happen but I'm glad it didn't." I think it would have been more thought provoking ending for a white audience but as a person of colour it wouldn't have provoked any new thoughts for me, just more sadness and frustration. The fact that our hearts all drop when the police car appears even though we know Daniel's character is the victim is telling enough. It felt great watching him escape using nothing but his wits, his strength and his sheer will to live and I feel like there was enough to discuss in the movie without feeling crushed at the end.
Dude, the reveal that it was Rod lead to the loudest exhale from built up tension I have EVER experienced in a movie theatre. It makes me miss going to the movies.
Emily Thomas Did you ever consider you were RAISED to think the way you thought about that original ending being the real ending for any black man, and that may be part of the racial problem in America today?
@@GARY84ROCKS well for starters, I'm not American so I can't speak to growing up amidst racial tensions in America. But truthfully, I think they speak for themselves. Police wrongly harassing, accusing, convicting people of colour in the US is not a recent issue and the surge in the Black Lives Matter movement last year really illustrated that not only is it more common than we may like to believe, it continues to be ignored and swept under the rug by law enforcement to protect themselves.
@@GARY84ROCKS I don't think the way I was raised is part of the racial problem at all. I think the deep-seated biases, racial profiling, stereotyping and prejudices of law enforcement officers is where the problem lies. If anything, I was raised to look out for myself. If learning that American law enforcement and criminal justice system is a potential threat to me as a young black woman, maybe the issue here isn't with me.
@@emilythomas9012 Law enforcement sweeps a lot under the rug... it affects blacks more because blacks overall have less financial means and also because they've been taught by the same media that you watch that cops are their specific enemies resulting in unneeded tension between blacks and cops. It's a propaganda sham and a cultural cancer all at once.
I'm sitting here wondering why the ending should be for others, and not for members of Chris' community. Why would it be superior if it sold a message to the American majority rather than offer hope to the black community?
I think the moment of panic that people have when the red and blue lights flash and Chris kneels on the ground underscores that tension enough. Daniel Kaluuya sells it perfectly, and we recall the cop from before.
Cinema is filled with black victims. I'm so glad that Chris ended up a hero and survivor.
Also, the cop earlier in the film saw him, but didn't identify him. Rose was careful not to let him be traced there because she knew Chris would turn up missing.
nobody said it *should* be for others, it was said that others who wouldn't want to hear that message should maybe be forced to hear it once in awhile.
My thoughts exactly
@@h445 do we not already have enough media that does that already? Literally Night of the Living Dead was mentioned in this video. Why does the Get Out guy gotta be sacrificed for us to learn anything?
Sometimes it's ok if a scary movie ends with things turning out ok.
This ending did more for the TSAs public perception than any multi million dollar publicity campaign !!
I'm confused, if he killed a house full of people and there was no evidence showing the crazy hard to believe reason he did it... why *wouldn't* he go to prison? Surely anyone found in that precise position would end up in jail?
While I understand your point, that the person at the end would be arrested by police no matter what race, I'm not sure I completely agree.
When the police see a person strangling another person, their job is to work out what happened, why, and punish appropriately. The scene at the end could be to highlight some real life moments of police behaviour where when they see a white man being violent, they, in some cases, deal with them much more peacefully than black people because of the unfair prejudice some police put on the black community.
The point at the OG end is to make you think "if he was white, would those white police be so quick to arrest him and assume guilt? Was he given a fair trial, like so many other black people were not?"
@@relaxingvideogamemusic9900 Yeah they would be so quick as well, it's fuckin boring and dumb to blame everything bad that happens someone not white that its just racism.
@@relaxingvideogamemusic9900 well i mean wouldnt the firemen figure out it was a man made fire and when they look at the blood on his shirt they would find many peoples blood, showing he had involvement in their death
@@danielmlinar4892 not everything that happens to black people is racism. But some things ARE. You probably don’t believe that because you’re a racist but
That would be totally dumb tho- he killed a guy who was trying to take his brain out!! Go look in the house, all the evidence is there!! Unless the entire policeforce is mindswapped too then I think that would raise a few questions...one of them being are we allowed to save our own lives or not?? Why are black/indigenous/female/albino/others always expected to sacrifice themselves (and now I'm thinking about the new The Stand reboot and all the raceswapping and genderswapping and how INFURIATING it made the ending, ugh, just gross, lol poor Stephen King) for the good of a community that rejects them?? We're just supposed to lay down and die then??! No, the Armitage's were evil and their human trafficking to use in effed up human experiments- the entire world would be shocked and disapprove....its like if you stumbled upon Unit 731 or a Nazi death camp that was experimenting on prisoners and then you kill all the doctors and guards- you'd be a goddamn hero and get a well deserved medal, you wouldn't go to jail lol, get outta here!!
The original ending sounds like quite the gut punch
I'm white, and the theatrical ending left me heart-in-mouth about whether he would ultimately escape. I found myself empathising with the black experience in a way that left me energised, angry, and motivated. The original ending would have left me demotivated, resigned, and hopeless about change, in the same way watching the news does.
Satire is not just about the message. It is about how the message is conveyed, and how it lands. I think the theatrical ending was far more effective satire.
I feel the original ending makes sense because why wouldn't someone go to prison for killing a bunch of people? This is something I figure would happen to a lot of horror film protagonists if we were shown what happens after authorities arrive.
That's the point people like Peele want to miss constantly. ANYONE found amongst burning houses and corpses is arrested, not "only black folks".🙄
@@alexpayne5914 Anyone found in that situation would be arrested. But Chris only got in that situation because he is black. And "only getting in that situation (prison, death) because you are black" is the social issue he is refering to. Moreover, Chris would likely be killed on spot for being caught stranggling a white woman.
Another one so soon? You spoil us good sir.
I think a lot of people missed the other half to Get Out. It is not just a film about systematic racism, but it's also about Chris trying to get over the death of his mother. It's heavily implied through deer symbolism-when Chris was a child, his mother was killed in a hit-and-run incident, having been left to die on the road alone; this is why the deer that Rose killed on the way to the Armitage house gets to Chris so much-the deer and his mother died in the same way. The death of Chris' mother is something that has haunted him for most of his life. Chris' mother's death parallels that of Chris leaving Rose to die on the road at the end of the film. Chris' character arc is that he gets over the death of his mother, leaving his demons behind with Rose. By not killing Rose, Chris uses it as an opportunity to let the past go. In my opinion, it just feels thematically off if Chris doesn't get catharsis. Chris should be 'rewarded' for conquering his trauma.
Seeing the twisted look Rose gave Chris when he was killing her, I sincerely hope they make a prequel story about Rose and see how she could be this manipulative.
Also, A sequel to this movie would be awesome to see. The police investigating the crime scene, while Chris and Rod are going out to look for Andre and whoever else is being brainwashed. See how far the twisted brain surgeon system is going. Heck, I wouldn’t even be surprised if they kidnapped minors and transferred their brains into elderly people just so the elderly can live longer (Although it does sound a bit pedophilic an incest-y, but considering how messed up this family is, what difference does it make?). We could even get some flashbacks to Andre’s life, and see what they did to him and the trauma he must’ve went through, even at times contemplating suicide, like Walter did. This can be an opportunity for Chris and Rod to reason with Andre before it’s too late.
Well my evening has been improved
For the members of the audience that aren't facing this everyday, an opportunity was missed." Yeah except the film wasn't made for that audience in mind. Jordan Peele created a movie for the culture WITH black people in mind. Not that other people can't enjoy it, but it is made for a primarily black audience. The original ending sounds traumatic. It completely changes the tone of the movie. The movie didn't earn putting me through that type of trauma the way that Do the Right Thing earned it.
I don’t see why it didn’t earn it and like with a number of other satirical films, the tonal shift would be the entire point. In any case, I’d say the theatrical ending is more of a tonal shift as it becomes far to slapstick, considering there is no way Chris will walk from this situation unscathed, something the original ending was cognizant of.
Couldn’t disagree with you more. An audience will always appreciate it more if you give them 2+2 rather than just 4. In Peele’s own words, “the audience was doing the work for me. They knew what was going to happen when the police lights flashed in his face. The point was made, without making it explicitly. To then give the more satisfying ending made more people see it and get that message. See people wouldn’t have been angry at the situation in the film and then want to do something about it. They would’ve been angry AT the film for making them watch this. It would’ve been preachy and quickly forgotten.
This actual ending is smarter, funnier and more effective. It’s more poignant AND memorable. It made the film a classic, which the original ending wouldn’t have done.
I think the film is strong enough as it is to hold up to the standard of contemporary classic. I think the original ending would have put a bad enough taste in our mouths to degrade the film as a whole. The chosen ending still retains that gut punch moment when the car arrives on the scene, but the film allows for a powerful resolution when rod steps out the car. Changing the ending would remove that big finish and I believe would have left the film in a state of deflatedness, ultimately undermining the strength of the film, not reinforcing it.
Lol "contemporary classic" rofl
i would say the value of the two endings depends on who the movie is made for. for a nonblack audience who is not in tune with these issues, the original ending does serve as a reflection of society, but the theatrical ending isn’t just cathartic for black audiences but also provides a solution for the implied problem (which is invoked by the sirens before the fakeout) on an individual level, that being to look out for one another. an ignorant audience needs to be made aware, but an aware audience needs an actionable solution, and seeing rod pull up and save chris reminds us that we can have solidarity and do that for each other.
I don't really think that original end would actually do much for the narrative of black people being forced into situations where they're made out to be the bad guys, because the og ending of the movie would've happened to anyone, regardless of color, they found a man covered in blood, strangling a woman to death, who lived at a nearby house that was now up in flame, all evidence was gone, at that point it's not a racial thing, it's just a tragic situation. So while it CAN draw a parallel, it's not a 1 to 1 because he would've been arrested regardless of race
God damn it I've seen the Brazil original cut loads of times but that jumpscare of the two men staring into camera always gets me.
I kinda wish he went with the original ending but the cop lights alone made my stomach drop. It was probably just as impactful.
Really thought provoking idea here. Tragic endings are a staple of this sub genre, and the fact that everything is leading to tragedy until the last moments still feels to me like it's bringing the lesson home despite the twist. This is a close one.
The plot twist I was REALLY hoping for in this movie: The "racist" sheriff who tritely questions the black protagonist Chris at the beginning turns out to have known something bad was happening to the black folks in town. He was suspicious of the white girl not Chris. THAT would have been twist!
As for the endings that were actually were offered, I think Get Out *will* be a classic, as is. The orig ending clashed badly with the tone of the movie and would have diminished it. You can point to literally any movie (or any piece of art for that matter) and say it should have offered more dead-serious commentary on dead-serious social issues. But that cultural attitude makes for exhausting art that people just want escape from even more badly. Take in some Christian movies and music for some insights into what happens when people think all art should be a sermon.
Oh I highly disagree. The more uplifting ending in the theatrical cut seems to clash with the rest of the social commentary heavy film IMO. While the original ending does also clash with the rest of the film, this seemed to be the intended effect.
@@MacabreStorytelling I'm talking about a clash of *tone* not social message.
Agreed. It would've been more interesting if back when Chris was questioned, the cop told him to get out. You think it's because he's racist but it's revealed he was trying to warn him.
Thanks for phrasing that as "some" Christian music. I'm sure we can agree that there's a big difference between mediocre CCM and Bach's cantatas!
@@RanMouri82 Oh, yeah, I was talking about modern stuff, not the old Christian masterpieces.
I agree that the original ending would have been more of a gut punch and would have had more emotional weight however I will admit to watching the movie seeing those blue lights and thinking f*** now he's going to get arrested and that shows you that we know in this country that a black man must fear the police.
Well it's definitely not a masterpiece, but I can't deny that this is one of the few horror movies(if not the only movie) from the last decade that had great acting and a clear message, while other movies stayed on a level of cheap jump scares and basic premises that we've seen million times.
I think the ending we got is way better. The issue with the original ending is it’s to bleak you’re right. The issue with the original ending is African Americans see all that bleak stuff in real life. When it came to Queen and Slim people where so frustrated and upset because we can’t get a happy ending in real life and now we can’t get a happy ending in a movie. We understand racism is real and still very prevalent the ending of the movie doesn’t need to remind us of it which is why I think so many POC appreciated this movie so much more than a movie like Queen and Slim. We know the harsh reality we live in we don’t need to relieve it In movies too. I think you’re right about the uneasy feeling the original ending would have left and maybe it gives someone who isn’t a POC something to think about, but for the most part it will just be that a moment and they wouldn’t give it a second thought when they get home (could be wrong but I don’t think so given everything that happened this year when at first everyone was so fired up after George Floyd but the majority of those new found “woke allies” fell off quicker then I think even POC expected them too.) I don’t think the movie was geared towards none POC to begin with so the ending we got was perfect for the original attendant audience. Just something to think about.
I would tend to agree but I think a more fantasy like ending would work better in a film same Queen & Slim as opposed to Get Out since GO was already rife with commentary. The more fairytale ending of Get Out did seem to clash with the tone of the rest of the film.
i could see why some would prefer the original ending and how that would be meaningful. though, i do still prefer the theatrical one because news and the victims around are already telling us the reality and i am already aware and angry and when i saw the police car, i instantly thought "poor guy is fucked" then when it was revealed that it was actually his friend, not only is my expectation subverted but it reminded me that there are colored cops too, there are good cops too, i have a friend who is a cop too. so i liked that little reminder that there are good ones embedded in that system who wants to do right and that not all hope is lost.
I can’t believe you only have 20k subs. I’d love to see a video about Primer. I don’t care what it’s regarding, but I watched it with my boyfriend and we were so confused but intrigued the whole time.
Primer is one of my faves. Just goes to show you don’t need a massive budget to make something incredible.
Macabre Storytelling Absolutely!
As an Afro-American woman and longtime antiracism activist, advocate and journalist who's experienced white supremacy, discrimination and oppression throughout all our institutions (both criminal justice and child welfare) all my life and witnessed the same thing happening to countless others who look like me, I'd like to personally thank you for this video and especially your analysis and candor regarding racism in our society. I have to say you were spot on and thank you again for the acknowledgement:-) I will be subscribing to your channel and am looking forward to more of your videos:-)
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I never knew about the original ending, but now I really want to see if I can splice it in and have the film as it was originally intended. Great video!
Both endings are good. The original would have moved me more, but the one we got in theaters i feel like was the right decision at the time of release. There was so much anger in the world, this was a sigh of relief. But the original ending - despite the anger is would have created - would have brought the BLM movement up to another level. It could have been something to give all of these angry people a voice, an outlet, something to connect with. I think we need both endings.
Covered your criticisms while also giving valid reasons for Peele’s choice 👍🏿 Good vid
In retrospect I actually think I respect and understand his decision more than I did when I made the vid 👌
@@MacabreStorytelling I have to admit I liked the theatrical version, as out of place as it was given the realism of the film. But from a ‘film analysis’ point of view it probably does weaken the movie, as you said. Being Peele’s directorial debut, it likely made sense to appeal to the masses
Best yet! Agree wholeheartedly after seeing the scene and listening to the commentary I couldn't believe he didn't go with the original, and you illustrate why perfectly.
I love both what he could have done was make the more grim ending play in places where there aren't many minorities and the other ending where more are. They did this with the monster movies ( Godzilla vs.) where Godzilla won over seas but lost in America (west)
I respectfully disagree. I think the point of the original was made when the audience’s heart dropped when they saw the police. Usually in horror movies lights is a good sign, but because the audience knows that we live in a racialized America, and the movie takes place in a racialized America, we aren't happy when we see the cops. We fear for Chris’s safety until it's revealed to be his friend. We can visualize the original ending and the point is made without even having to see it. The point is made without having to watch another black man be killed and brutalized by the police. I think ultimately the ending was about the POC in the audience - validating their fears and experiences while giving them a more hopeful narrative.
Ultimately I'm saying the original ending wasn't a story that needed to be told because we've all seen that ending before and for POC it would just bring up more trauma.
Surprised not to see more comments on the obvious fact that an arrest at the end would have happened to ANYONE, regardless of race. How are people not talking about that? Tying that to him being black is ridiculous. If that's the message you want to send then go for it, but the big thing you're missing is that the dislike of the original ending had less to do with race and more to do with poor writing & tone. For anyone who has seen that ending filmed it is pretty heavy-handed and feels like it's trying to push an agenda, a tone that does not match the rest of the movie.
You... didn't think the rest of the movie was "pushing an agenda"?
@@MacabreStorytelling The rest of the movie was well-written narratively and satirically. You can make social commentary without feeling heavy-handed and imo the movie did that well
TBH the og ending would be too dark for me. I would have been depressed for weeks.
I prefer the ending they used, because as the police car rolls up you ASSUME oh shit now they are going to shoot him...but then it all ends well. It works perfectly I think. The audience thinks the thought, that's enough.
IT makes you think "why did I assume they were going to shoot him?" A moment of self reflection.
10:21 a good screenwriter includes ALL the endings. they don't stop writing, this still happens, but they keep going, so we see what becomes of him, modelling attitudes and actions that provide hope for the audience, a call to action, and that becomes the happy ending. Lots of movies and TV shows do the multiple endings thing well. You can have your cake and eat it too.
I 100% agree. The original ending was was the best.
I think its absolutely crushing, and beautiful. It was perfect. I understand why he changed it... but I think the OG ending reinforces the themes and REALITY of the issue mucn better.
Being black, I would have been PISSED at the original ending. Due to the history of cinema and portrayals of black men in cinema; seeing Chris in that jumper would have felt like pandering to white exec heads. "He can get away with it but not REALLY get away with it."
I've never actually seen this film as my wife has a ban on horror films. But I've seen a number of reviews on it and seen all the key plot point scenes. Both endings are terrible. I'm sorry but if you're spotted outside of a burning house soaked in blood and straddling and strangling the only other survivor of this ordeal, no one is going to give you any presumption of innocence no matter you're skin color. I wouldn't believe my own father or even my grandmother was innocent if I saw them in that position! Which to me makes any pretense of social commentary to the ending clunky at best. Lazy and vilifying at worst.
I really like this series, excited to see more!
I really like Get Out with its second ending, but I also liked your point. Thanks.
I saw this movie in a theater filled with black people. It was opening night and the greatest movie experience of my life. We all were active participants in the movie. When the cop car showed up, literally the *entire* theater groaned. I think the point was made without the bleak original ending
Never knew the original ending but I absolutely love it! Makes me think does the movie Snowpiercer have a fatal flaw?🤔
I think they should release the original as maybe a director's cut. Maybe something one could watch after the theatrical cut
Please continue. These are genius
Love your "one fatal flaw" series!! You have a new subscriber!!
You're writing for two audiences here one who isn't all too familiar with racism and the other too familiar with it who already can't get 20% happy endings ratio compared to another who gets 97% happy endings so I do think Peel did the right thing considering the issues surrounding it's release. Black people get one more happy ending instead of the status quo of no. Peel is making a new genre of movies not quite black only movies and not quite white only I think he needs to have the happy or bitter sweet endings at least to start out later others can add in the rare unhappy endings but for now he needs to do a solid here and have them be up lifting.
@Johnny Cab The people who marched on capital hill?
@@shaesullivan Who? The BLM guys dressed like Trump supporterers? 😆
@Johnny Cab Yeah we know only white people can be racist. Opposite doesn't exist if you say otherwise, you're racist.
I feel like it really depends on the person who's watching. Although the downer ending is most likely what would have happened, I still feel like the one released was a better choice simply due to the fact that it gives a sense of hope for something better. One of the thing I dislike about some dystopian works is that they just seem nihilistic and pessimistic. The rest of the film on itself is enough of a "call to action" if you will, so I kinda like the "happy" ending. Also, the other people who came to the auction are still out there
@2DGyalDem Yeah. The downer ending would have just made me upset in general
The original ending was better, but I think Peel did the right call in the face of how depressing the reality tends to be to black people and the moment of release. Cupofcustards suggestion of Jim taking over Chris' mind and so having an able body and eyesight but having to live as an incarcerated black man would be interesting, allowing the original ending at heart, with an extra edge that could make the ending more palatable to black people given the irony and some schadenfreude (is that right? Ugh, I can't spell). My personal pick if they went with an ending closer to the new one would have an edge: his friend is in the car, he helps him get away, but he knows that with all those dead white people and no prove to make him innocent, his friend helps him runaway. They drive away. He is a man on the run now, he survived whole, he is still free, but the realistic repercussions are there and will not give in, but he is not giving in and is willing to keep running. The car drives away, Chris in the back seat, catching his breath. Bittersweat, realistic, but with a spirit of resistance and endurance without pretending that all is good now. But that's just my take.
The comedic tone of the movie ending struck me as "off," so I'm not surprised that it wasn't the original ending. But at the same time, the movie begins with comedy, Jordan Peele was, at the time, known for comedy, so the decision to end on a comedic note felt legit. You can still see the shadow of the original ending in the red and blue flashing lights.
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I don't see how the original correlates with the message of there being some sort of systematic oppression. Put a man of any race into the protagonist's position (being having burnt down a house and killed a family) and anyone would be for arresting them without getting the full picture.
Apparently I'm supposed to leave a comment like "One Thatal Thlaw" which I think is rather mean. I'd prefer to discuss the content of your videos, buddy, but today I completely agree with this one :-)
Fair enough
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I feel this way about Promising Young Woman! The original ending would have been much more satisfying to me...to drive home the thesis. I am a cis white woman, which this movie was addressing. I see several poc saying the ending of Get Out was better cause cathartic. I don't know exactly what my point is, just something to take into consideration.
To be fair the original ending is just realistic. Doesn’t matter if he’s black or white if he told them what happened behind these walls nobody would believe that.
The original ending is what I would have expected from a modern movie (it would have come across as a cliche), so the Theatrical ending was more of a surprise. Though the end they did go with did leave me with the question " What, his friend heads up there BY HIMSELF? He didn't bring everybody he knows with him??" -- One of the things about the story is that I haven't really seen discussed is the social isolation of Chris AND his pa Rod -- they don't seem to have a social circle they can go to for help. As I watched GET OUT I was reminded of 1950s movies like I MARRIED A MONSTER FROM OUTER SPACE, where the main character apparently has NO FRIENDS from whom she can seek and get help from (in this 1950s movie, this seems to be taken for granted), and I'm wondering if the fact that in GET OUT, the protagonist, a world famous, respected, and successful photographer, seems to have only ONE friend he can go to for help (and from the ending, the friend has no friends either) is an homage to 1950s SF/Horror, or a commentary on modern life?
The suspension of disbelief is what makes enjoying movies possible. I do not got to the movies for history lessons. And the original ending especially in the climate of the times would not have been a call to action. The battle was already raging we needed a win no matter how unrealistic it was
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The theatrical ending is more satisfying, the original ending is much better political commentary. I like it more tbh.
Much like the original ending to Fatal Attraction, Get Out’s original ending was artistically phenomenal but commercially would’ve been a disaster. Unfortunately the movie business is about money not art. Me personally I like those “gut punch” moments in movies, it’s what makes a movie a masterpiece, you can’t always have a happy ending, look at Rosemary’s Baby or the original Stepford Wives. Night of the Living Dead is still a classic and the ending (as pissed as I was when I saw it) was brilliant.
I'd argue we are super fortunate both endings exist filmed. We can enjoy both the cathartic fantasy and the grim reality.
Actually George Romero wasn't even cognizant of the fact that critics would praise him for having a black actor play Ben. At the time of casting it wasnt even a factor. He was casting friends he could underpay without running afoul of SAG, assuming wet behind them ears Romero even knew what SAG was, or if it even existed in Philadelphia....
We needed the ending we got because when you are living the reality sometimes you just need a break. We needed the comic relief at the end.
So the problem is that we don't know what audience the movie should be for. I can see why Peele went for the black audience. He really doesn't want to cater to the white majority as evidenced by his casting choices.
So, who needs to be talked to more? The black audience that needs hope, or the white audience that needs education?
To some extent I understand his intentions, but it seemed the more hopeful ending seemed to clash with the more social commentary and satirical tone of the rest of the film.
@@MacabreStorytelling You're saying that the white audience was prioritised from the beginning?
Idk if either was truly prioritized as the bulk of the film could be both a sort of inside joke for POC who know the situation Chris finds himself in all too well and a more reality check for non POC who may not truly realize how uncomfortable these situations truly can be. When it comes to the ending to me it seems the “cheating players vs rigged gams” analogy I used seemed to be the point of the original ending which I’d say is a pretty important piece of the story and was demonstrated with the original ending whereas the fantasy like ending seemed to steer the film more towards a farcical ending as opposed to a more serious toned satirical one. As I said either ending works fine but I do think the highlighting of the problem being a systemic one as opposed to one on an individual basis was a vital part of the story.
This movie was definitely for the white audience. That's why they casted a non Black American for the main character.
I don't need education thank you:)
Had this movie stuck the landing with its original ending, it would have become the most important film made in the last decade with the rise of BLM and the increasing civil discontent in the country.
But the dismal ending was, and still is, the grim reality of the lives of so many in this day and age, so I can understand why Peele wanted his target audience to breathe a sigh of relief for a change.
I will always prefer the “original” ending, but I can’t say I disagree with anyone who likes the theatrical ending more.
Agreed
Why would you support a terrorist group though?
@@thebigdawgj If you don't support the organization, at least support the idea of equality.
@@gfilmer7150
We do have equality. What you want is equity which is unequal.
@@thebigdawgj I don’t want to get into this argument. Just yes or no and we’ll be done with this discussion.
I love the idea of the og ending. Even if its a downer, as long as the tone was warranted, im game if it helps the movie. The average movie goer can sure kill a movie with their basic imagination, as far as movies go.
No I appreciate Peele's explanation that he'd seen that ending, he was sick and tired of seeing that ending. He was going to write a different ending that didn't resemble our world
A WAY better ending would have been if the original racist police officer was the one that turned up at the end with a puzzled look on his face as it would then leave it open ended for the audience whether he believed Chris with what actually happened or he'd remain blinded by race and sent him down for murder
Seems like nearly everyone in the comment sections wanted the ending in which blacks are portrayed as powerless.
I don’t think that’s why they wanted it at all
@@Cj-xt6tv I didn't say a thing about why they wanted, I pointed out WHAT they wanted.
@@jbtechcon7434 fair enough. But I think it is an important distinction of why they wanted that ending.
@@Cj-xt6tv I don't agree with the importance of that distinction, simply because I don't give people an out for having good intentions. Have you heard the saying about what the road to Hell is paved with? If art relentlessly portrays blacks as helpless and powerless, that's psychologically harmful, even if the whitey who demanded it meant well.
@@jbtechcon7434 I get that. But it’s kinda unfair to just classify it as white people. I mean it’s literally Jordan Peeles original ending and the meaning for him was so much more than showing blacks as powerless
To be faaaaair I'm pretty sure if the original ending was used most audience members wouldn't get mad at society. They'd just get mad at Jordan Peele. Unfortunately humanity is flawed like that.
I would say the original ending is better because, as you say, it embodies the whole point Peele was trying to make. The happy ending is more satisfying, but it goes against what life is really like. Racism is still existent and may never truly go away, and everyone needs to understand that, which is why the downer ending should be the one that plays, conveying to the audience the unfairness of life
The only problem with this movie is that it is a blatant copy of the movie “the skeleton key”. A movie panned by critics. Remember this movie won an Oscar for best ORIGINAL screenplay.
I feel bad for Peele now.
That OG ending was a brilliant way to end the story.
I'd like to think most of us can appreciate a dour ending if it properly serves the needs of the narrative.
The only problem I had with Get Out was that Chris was a very mundane leading man. Other than the lame back story about his mom, we know almost nothing about him. His dialogue is limited and perfunctory at best and until the 3rd act he just reacts in a very passive way. And yes, the original ending would have taken the film to the next level (good to great) and its a shame that the producers went for the safe. Awesome video.
Whatever the ending, the entire movie didn't work for me. The 'twist' was preposterous and they lost me. His next one 'Us', I didn't even get halfway. For me, JP is not a filmmaker
While I get your point about the original ending, the last thing I want in a film is for it to preach to me; or to try to teach me something. If I want that, I'll read a book (I love reading), or watch a documentary. I choose films because I want a brief moment to turn off my brain and be entertained. I don't look for the Entertainment sector (e.g. horror films) to try to lecture and preach to me. I know where to go if I want to be lectured and preached to.
Mindless entertainment < thought provoking masterpiece
@@superman10501 There are plenty of things in life to experience a thought provoking masterpiece. That's not what I want from a movie. If you want a real thought provoking masterpiece experience, then get off your couch, get away from a screen, and explore the world.
@@zenbane1876 yeah okay Aristotle
@@zenbane1876 it sounds like you like watching Barney or some dumb shit ha I prefer movies that are actually good and not cluster fuck made for children but to each their own
@@superman10501 It sounds like the education system failed you, and your parents. So you resort to your couch and TV to supplement your blatant inadequacies. I'm not much a fan of Barney, but it doesn't offend me if it's on. Because unlike you, I received a proper education and don't use television to compensate. But yeah, to each their own. lmao
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As always, I'm late to the party, but I want to engage because I enjoy your content!
I do have a question though: how would they know it was Chris that they needed to arrest? Rose specifically made sure that Chris' state ID isn't seen by the cop. All evidence about Chris would've burned just as well as all the evidence about the Armitage & Co. The police officer isn't wearing a body camera (that we can see) and we don't even know if he has a dash cam (isn't actually required at the time of writing/release of Get Out). So the idea that one cop, who was profiling a random black man and immediately reprimanded by a random white woman, would even know where to start in the hunt for this random black man who also could've died in the fire, seems like a huge reach. Not to mention, Walter is RIGHT THERE next to Rose's body. They have their perpetrator. If we're going on the idea that the cop was profiling at the traffic stop, I doubt he's the type of racist who's distinguishing people of the race he's profiling.
The argument that the cut ending would be better has its own flaws. Hell, even saying that Chris would be arrested after the theatrical ending is flawed. You can't say all evidence about the Armitage's bodysnatching burned up, but try to find some way to still pin their death's on Chris. There wouldn't be anything that circles back to him. All anyone in that area would see is Walter, the black housekeeper, killing the innocent white liberals who graciously housed and paid him. They would wrap it up in a pretty little bow that the case is shut and closed, and the real horror of the ending would be that Chris knows there are other black people out there who will end up like Walter. Coming out of the sunken place, killing their captors and most likely dying on their way out.
I mean when you consider the original ending, it wouldnt be an example of systemic racism
The theatrical ending is why this isn't really a horror film. It has horror elements, but has the protagonist alive and well in the end. One common thread of all horror art is the unsatisfactory, disturbing, unreasonable ending. It's why I don't like horror as a genre. I always walk away feeling dirty and foolish for having indulged it. It just means "F-U" to the watcher because whatever it gets you to invest in it was for naught: the hero dies, the worst outcome becomes manifest, the evil is not only not defeated but may have completely succeeded. A lot of Asian tragedy is like this where they setup a grand, epic struggle against some powerful evil and perish utterly and completely to the satisfaction of said evil. An example of a subtler horror end would be "Annihilation" which ends with the protagonist seeming to have defeated the aliens but in literally the last second you see the alien twinkle in her eye to indicate they won. The ending of LoU2 with everything unresolved and miserable despite all you do... is a horror ending. Play it just to have everything you liked about the first game trashed and burned and the main culprit allowed to go free pointlessly.
The only movie that does a good job on this ground of toeing the line with horror is "Inception." At the end it's not clear if all is lost or not. There are elements to the scene that suggest both.
Not to conflate this with tragedy which merely has a sad ending but may have at the very least concluded the narrative with the best conceivable outcome given the inherent constraints of the story elements. Like "Hamlet." It's a total wash... nearly everyone dies, including especially the protagonist, but in the end the murderer does die as well and at the protagonist's hands with everyone aware of justice involved in the execution. So a bleak ending, but not horrific. Not the nightmare ending of horror. If "Get Out" had ended with merely being locked up by police, it would've been the Western tragic ending, not horror, since- even locked up for life or sentenced to death- the protagonist would have prevailed over the... cult?... brainswappers... and eliminated its key organizers. His fake gf would've died in blood on the street, the mansion burned down, the auctions ended, the victims getting a chance to possibly overthrow their new "hosts," the nightmare over at least for him.
A horror ending for "Get Out" would've involved him being arrested, brought to the police station, then in the last scene with him in handcuffs behind bars, he overhears the cops in the other room discussing with someone over the phone- now that that particular mansion was burned down- which OTHER brainswapper organization might want the protagonist's body at the next auction... See how the cycle of horror is then not broken despite all his suffering and the nightmare feeling of being unable to escape? Peele sidestepped horror altogether with the theatrical cut. Works for me.
At first, I thought the original ending wasn’t that great as well as predictable. But now, with your perspective on it...I’m honestly not sure what I prefer🤔
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Yeah i like the ending we got. It was a new take and very satisfying. Not a cliche at all.. but the original ending it wouldve made sense that he’d get arrested.. it wouldnt have had anything to do with the colour of his skin. He looked severely guilty and thats why it wouldve been a bad ending.
So the implication is that if the police saw a white man in those same circumstances, strangling a woman in the middle of the road, her family dead and home torched, that they'd just help him up, dust him off and send him on his way? I'm not claiming there isn't widespread racism in policing but come on, guilt would be assumed for anyone under those circumstances.
Him getting arrested at the end wouldnt have been a race thing.. it woulda been legitimate, from the police point of view.. and that wouldve taken away from the narrative that racism still happens.
I agree with this
I agree with the main comment you highlighted. The fact that the audience was in fear when the police car pulled up was the R in horror. Point made. Knowing the character is safe gives a resolution to the story. Get Out part 2 The Appeal shouldn’t be left to play in our heads. As for the police.. he didn’t see his ID and I’m sure their guests aren’t volunteering information. Grandpa is totally getting blamed. The cop could have been at the auction thou to clip any thread of doubt.
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Honestly I like the current ending. Not a fan of sad endings
I really appreciate your take on this very enlightening.
The theatrical ending turns the character into a black hero, a sign of hope and overcoming. While the original is more realistic, every black person watching the movie expected that ending. We knew it was the only way that story could end. We were satisfied, like the protagonists, to have him kill the family and destroy the house. The theatrical ending however, uses the unique lived black experience of reality to create a separate experience for black people viewing the movie. The theatrical ending serves as an optimistic twist ending for black people while simultaneously coming across as a typical ride off into the sunset for white people. Essentially you have to be initiated to experience the ending fully.
I think peele should’ve pulled a clueless by screening the two versions of the ending, the og ending in predominantly white areas & the theatrical end in black areas
This definitely would not be one of my favourite movies had they gone with the original ending, zero catharsis, all pain. Interesting breakdown though!