Bare Knuckled GM Brawl - The Colorado ZR2 Was The Undisputed Chevy Off-Road King BUT Not Any More!
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In this video Roman and Tommy hit the dirt in the new Chevy Silverado ZR2 and Colorado ZR2 to find out which you should buy!
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Even without watching all the way through I'm 99.9% certain that the smaller and lighter Colorado will be the better off-road truck. Plus you get the little diesel engine in them for good range and efficiency. Arguably the Colorado is the most Overlanding suitable truck on sale in the USA, on account of both size and the small diesel engine.
Same, I don't even need to watch. Full size trucks can never be the best off roader simply due to size and weight.
Colorado looks better too
jeep gladiator.
But the Silverado has a 6.2. Hands down superior.
@@jeffforbes70 this is why I said arguably, the Gladiator is hugely freaking capable off-road (which is less important for Overlanding generally, to that level anyway! Most people around the world do it on a vehicle like a HiLux which is to all intents and purposes equal to the Colorado capability wise) but less capable in terms of payload. The Gladiator is cooler in my eyes, but you could easily argue either way regarding which is best for Overlanding and it partly depends on your requirements.
The thing that bothers me is that I wait to see something impressive being done but each video pretty much is the same shit.
It has lockers and what not, but I see more off-roading done by my dead grandma 🤬😆.
What a waste of a good thing.
TFL channels have been very boring for a while now.... Like you said, too much taking about interiors, screens, finishes/textures.....drive more 😒
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@@joseortega9519 no doubt.I wanna see what they can do.Most are interior shots and them talking.I want to see the trucks flex and crawl and dig.The video off the guy on his range rover wad a little better as it was it least pushed a little.I feel they need to get some young guns that want to actually want to push these trucks.Does that make sense?
@@gettin_while_growin1512 yeah, totally agree with you
Lol you should know by now that TFL baby the the vehicles they test on some beginner trails. If they aren't doing that they are busy riding the EV d*ck.
I saw a video of Andre at Toyota's private test course in North Texas driving the new TRD Pro Tundra. He should have taken it to Northwest OHV off road park out in Bridgeport, Tx to really test its capabilities. That private test course was the biggest joke ever btw lol.
ZR2 are capable for certain but, as with all trucks and especially 'specialty' trucks, flippin' expensive. That said, I would go with the Colorado for it's smaller footprint and less tech to deal with . . . and I'd have about 25k left over.
The ZR2 is going already?... I was here for every TRX and ZR2 videos, more than others.. When you guys bought the ZR2, Andre implied maybe putting sliders on it, so I thought you guys were going to mod it, or something and was looking forward to that!.... I wish you guys would buy a truck that you build up over time, from a cheap older rig, into a beast!.... That would be an excellent video series!
I hope you get some more fun capable interesting trucks!
They kept the Tundra longer so they could hate on the fact it didn't have tow hooks. Nah, I'm sure they had their reasons but it came and went like a firecracker...really fast then it was over
@@jayrichards3672 I think with the purchase of Tumbleweed Ranch they may not be able to hold such expensive trucks for such a long time until they pay it off.
They also said they were going to add the performance exhaust
@@dmegahan Ugh.... I'm tired of Tommy's Jeep as filler videos, because they have nothing else... They just got the ZR2 lol
i concur
As a kid I always loved the jeeps and tacomas
When I got into my 20s and seen the first AEV BISON ZR2 and immediately fell in love. Now own a 22 ZR2 and couldn’t be happier
Full size trucks will never be the best off roader. They're too big. Colorado is superior.
Was this a chevy commercial? More talking than offroading.
I love yoy guys!! But that comparison sucked!!! Go find other obstacles if you can't beat the crack....we wanted to see them wheel.
its how u approach tommy if u went more to the right then com to the left on the bend u would been good but u stayed to the left to much
13:40 Man so disappointed! Was hoping Dad would just be like “Watch and learn son!”
I don’t think you have to revamp a vehicle entirely - especially one that as well-sorted as the Colorado is. You can update the interior and improve the electronics package and keep the goodies that already work so well.
The zr2 colorado is really the best looking mid size I would just fix the interior.
Agreed! Great truck mechanically, just give it a makeover.
Yes indeed, why prosthetic arm beige? LOL! Also having worked for a mountain county government here in Colorado as a mechanic the Good Year Duratracks were absolutely impossible to keep from making insane amounts of road noise. It didn’t matter how attentive we were with rotating they were a nightmare on highway regarding noise. There’s much better tires out there.
Looks like you guys needed to air down. Those tires aren't flexing much. Probably would have made it.
Can we ever have a video where we don't spend a quarter of it talking about screens? Just get to the offroad performance part. You talk about the interior in every video about these trucks. We get it.
I started watching this on my smart TV, and had to get on my phone so I could say that “prosthetic arm beige” is one of the funniest chirps I’ve ever heard. Good one, Tommy 😂😂
That's a shame you couldn't make it. The wash out made it more difficult, as the TFL Trailboss made it through that.
Despite Roman's request not to complain about the ZR2 going. I will.
TFL had the responsibility to review this truck against its competition. We got to see the Trailboss vs a Rebel, and Ratpor in Moab. The one and only Review VS the TRD pro was on the tame sections of Trail, dozens of other videos featured the Razor rocks, yet that important test was missing. Where was the technical offroad tests vs the Ratpor and TRX? Or even the Tremor?
So yes TFL, I am extremely disappointed, you had the opportunity to provide the definitive test of which half ton truck is best offroad.
Swing and a miss, by a mile.
Nope, we took the ZR2 to Moab for complete off-road and MPG test. Did you miss those videos?
@@TFLoffroad You took it alone to MOAB. Which is next to useless if you don't compare it at the same time on the same day vs other trucks. Looking back to previous videos is of no use ,as your current video shows. Trails change.
And where is your channel and bad ass content. HATER!
You’re completely correct. This truck was barely tested off road. Other than The off road course at the ranch, a very weak Moab video, and a couple videos like this, illustrating nothing; I’m left with very little sense of it’s capabilities. You guys did it right with the bronco you owned, took it on some legitimately challenging trails multiple times. Why this didn’t get a similar workout is beyond me.
& then they get comments addressing their mistakes and respond with condescending/arrogant “Nope”. Twice they did that in this video’s comment section lol. Sad.
Tommy is such a baby in this video
It does kill me to this day, no the ZR2 doesn’t have the hp like the TRX or Rapter nor the tire sizes but it also doesn’t have the price tag! The ZR2 has FRONT and rear locker which Noboy else has in the 1500 class…
Colorado for sure, the small package makes it more suitable for tight trails. If you want to add 35's without lifting it you can just get AEV Highmark fender flares and you can easily fit 35's which in return gets you increased ground clearance.
I wonder if there's some way you could manual swap the zr2. That would be sick, do any of the lower Colorado trims come with manuals?
Only the 4 cyl 2wd...
@@comfort_in_discomfort Alright just swap the whole drivetrain to the 4 cylinder lol😅
Next time let air out of your tires.
Colorado is the better option off road. Not even close. At least GM put some effort into their midsize segment..not the same story for Silverado ZR2.
The landscape is so beautiful! since things are so expensive I had thought about the colorado zr2 as a hunting, camping truck. Please do more off road with the colorado!
Disingenuous of Roman to make like he was willing to try ‘Devil’s Crack’…he is always the first of TFL’s reviewers to bail out of anything slightly difficult. Whereas if Tommy decides not to persevere with an obstacle, then it’s definitely difficult.
I was literally thinking “yeah right, you’re just bailing out like usual.” Roman consistently says the line “I don’t want to damage anything, I think it’s best we stop/turn around”
Can't wait for the new midsize trucks. New Colorado, Canyon, Ranger, and Tacoma plz!
Agree that bigger tires from the factory are needed; especially for the Colorado. Fortunately, there are 1.25” front level spacers that don’t ruin the geometry of the DSSV shocks. Level kits runs about $200 & are very easy to install, which then allows for 33” tires on the OEM wheels.
Lies. I had a ready lift 1.25 spacer and it ruined the geometry of the cv axles. Went through 4 axles and 4 visits in 5 months. So no.
holy it roman called them whatvthey are trucks not cars
Those DSSV aren't about being better than Fox or bilstein offroad, it's theyre good offroad and much better behavior on road that sets them apart and makes these trucks even more well rounded
Except they are better offroad vs Fox and Bilstien.
I’ll be sad to see the zr2 go 😞
Thank you for all the reviews on the new ZR2. After some deliberation I decided to pull the trigger on one. I had to drive 2.5 hours away to get away from the huge markups but man!!! So well worth it. I’ve owned it for about a month now and I have to say it is hands down the best GM truck I’ve owned and I’ve owned 6 others. The suspension and off road capability is like nothing they’ve done yet. Been waiting for this for a looong time from GM. Thank you Andre, Nathan and Roman for all the useful reviews and info.
The Colorado has a 5000 lb towing capacity. A regular Colorado has over 7000 lb capacity.
Not buying a ZR2 to tow, it’s made for getting in and out of rough and rugged terrain, not towing, although it is perfectly capable of towing a small camper, or ATV/ UTV trailer. The Ram Power Wagon is the same, less towing, more going into extreme terrain😎👍🇺🇸
@@Roninforged I had a 2018 Colorado ZR2. I towed a 3500 lb travel trailer in the mountains of utah. That v6 was a dog. But that suspension and ride quality was incredible.
@@paulmadkow9143 not made for towing
@@Sloimer then they shouldn't have put a tow hitch reciever on in the first place.
@@paulmadkow9143 so because it’s not the primary design goal you shouldn’t be able to tow at all? Good job.
It's very basic physics. The Colorado is lighter, narrower and smaller with a better approach, breakover and departure angle. It's the better off-roader. Very simple. Both ZR2's pretty much have the exact same off-road tech and equipment, only difference is size.
The price on that Colorado is almost refreshing, compared to the price of many new cutting edge vehicles.
Can you do off road with old Puch or old g class
Now do F150 tremor vs ranger tremor
I'll take (have taken) the Colorado, but very impressed with the new Silverado ZR2!
I finally had a problem with my high mileage Z71 '05 Colorado yesterday.....I had to replace the battery....And away we went. Thanks AutoZone!
What radios do you use for vids? Are they decent on highways?
I think the Colorado is better
2024: "Yeah at only $70K...this is such an affordable truck..."
With all the tech they keep adding to new vehicles I want a new truck less and less every year.
They are both extremely capable and handsome machines, and I am saying this as a Ranger Raptor owner (I wish I had the front lockers too)
I’m in a Ranger Tremor and I’m waiting on the new Ranger Raptor.
I can’t believe tommy didn’t go up it. If he engaged this FRONT LOCKER then it would have crawled up it! Also airing down the tires would help ride quality and traction. This drives me insane. The ZR2 is made to off-road, NOT soft road. When y’all go to off-road, y’all won’t do it. The ZR2 Colorado is so underrated!
If I had to take one of these I'm going Colorado it's easier to drive in the city easier to park it's powerful it's very VERY capable off-road, to me the Silverado won't fit in my garage way too expensive & harder to drive in the city + when you go off 🛣️ but...
I'll take the 🌮 4X4 off-road 6-speed manual... That's just me tho
I love seeing the Colorado ZR2 back on the channel!!!!!!!!!!!
Why don't you guys ever go down the other side of Webster Pass towards 285 on that super fun shelf road? Don't worry, I took a lifted 2019 F150 fx4 with 35's down it and I will NEVER take a full size truck on that shelf road again lol You know the wash out spot I'm talking about!!!
Dont waste your time on this "off road" video, literally its just the Colorado going through a tight gap, and them not attempting it with the Silverado ZR2 and mentioning its a $70K truck 7+ times as an excuse not to "Review" the truck, as in drive the same 20' section of trail they attempted to do with the Colorado but stopped in the first 5'..... so you end up B roll film with road video of the trucks driving and them telling you how "Great" they are with no video to show.... getting soft with these newer videos, i want to see the videos like 2 years ago on the trails with mufflers hitting the ground (Trail boss, Raptor, power wagon) and you guys are actually reviewing the vehicles for what they were ment for. not taking them to a farm and driving up a 15' grassy hill... cough cough Range Rover.... Power Wagon.... Rav4. might as well just go drag race these 2 against each other. lol. look forward to new videos
put the V8 and tires on the Smaller Colorado
Fix the Interior. too much glossy junky rental car vibe.
Although GM has always had worst interiors in industry by far.
Yugo interior would be an improvement
About the quoted prices....those sky-high numbers are about to come down...way down! High gas prices, rising interest rates, and an economy slowing to recession are the perfect storm that will bring down those crazy-high truck prices.
Why would I bring my beautiful expensive truck to a rocky place that I know it will get damages from? Doesn’t make sense to me spending so much money I like off-roading but I wouldn’t go extreme with a brand new truck.
Great scenery! That's one of my favorite water crossings to hit at speed, since it's so shallow but wide.
What trail is that?
@@garretthackett4313 It's the road between Montezuma CO and the top of Webster Pass. The trail gets notably rockier south of the water crossing so the open area on the north side ends up being a popular camping spot.
That Silverado is Priced to high IMHO and other that high performance sports car in a work truck Premium Fuel who needs that especially with todays fuel prices.
Love the “good ole fashion “ key.
It's too bad Chevy is so unreliable, otherwise I would buy one. The aggressive look and off-road capability of both are almost enough to ignore the unreasonable history. Unless things have changed.
It will be more affordable when the bank REPO your Silverado 👌🤠
I'm gonna wait till it's in the auction yard
Colorado has some fantastic trails..
Unfortunately Alaska doesn't
Man the Zr2 is my all around favorite truck of all time. I'd give anything in the world to have one.
All I do is work because my only hobby would be overlanding. If I had one I'd be in the mountains every weekend.
My dream is to take my parents on a overland trip to Imogen pass, and alot other passes out west before they get too old . My uncle took me there and I've been obsessed ever since.
Hopefully if the stars aline I'll have me one day. 🙏
Why don’t you two drive a Ferrari 4x4 $2million dollars car for crawling up these hills? I like to see you not scratch it.
Just to disagree with Roman, and for no other reason, Give me a colorado (with the diesel, of course) I had one, LOVED it.
I love my ZR2 Silverado , my son has the Colorado ZR2 both 2022 ,, reliable is the key and great looking
I don’t think this was what is considered off roading. Scratches and dents are part of it. Not this. Way too much talking. I guess you did take it off the paved road.
“Prosthetic arm beige” is what trail boss Silverado I picked. Made me laugh though. 😅
Getting rid of the ZR2 too soon. Also, you should have gone for it. With a better line both of you would have walked up
Nathan would have hammered down, or (up) the Devils crack, and I think it would have made it up before it went sideways. Just saying. Lol. Other than that obstacle, it looked like a fairly easy trip to the top.
Tommy is a saint
Need that 2.8 duramax for sure
momentum is your friend. the colorado could have done the crack without lockers if momentum was used.
for 20k less, the Colorado is a much better. I have owned one for 5 years now and still love it.
DSSV STANDS FOR DYNAMIC SPEED SENSITIVE VALVING. YOU WANT IT SMOOTHER. GO A LITTLE FASTER.
Can you start addressing tire sizes aswell instead oh the Silverado is much bigger and better give us specs
That's a nice looking pair of trucks, I still like the colorado better though. I wish the colorado could get the 2.7 from the silverado, that would be awesome.
We'll find out on July 28
Where have you been? They are absolutely going to put the 2.7 turbo in the new Colorado/ Canyon.
@@WheresHerb I guess not paying attention LOL. That's awesome IMO, should work out great in a smaller truck.
@@spcneary only question is will it be the standard 310hp 350lbft or the reinforced high output 310hp 420lbft
It will be the only engine option on the 23
Cool video guys and Colorado is Amazing place!! Yo Colorado!!!
Cool video guys and Colorado is Amazing place!! Yo Colorado!!!
Roman doesn’t usually make me laugh out loud. But his quick delivery on saying that the Colorado was “older than the Magna Carta” was outrageously funny
But how can we ignore the rampant engine problems GM has with the 6.2? There are videos all over Tiktok weekly of 6.2s being replaced in NEW GM trucks.
Why would I wanna spend 85 on an upcharged trail boss
That Colorado ZR2 Is Popular For Going On The Dirt.
Fingers crossed the next colorado is just as good off road and gets the better interior options.
Beautiful views guys what a relaxing way to spend the day !!!
A little bit of princess driving, huh?!
That Colorado interior needs a refresh bad
How the hell did i never put together they are dad and son? Lol
The colorado is half the price, can't beat
I also loved the lack of technology!!!
Great truck too much money not worth it!!!
Anyone else feel like the Silverado ZR2 is going away way too soon? I feel like there's hardly been any real serious content with it? I thought you were gonna put rock sliders and a performance exhaust on it? Maybe do some serious Raptor/Tremor vs TRX/Rebel ZR2? Must say I'm extremely surprised it's going so soon... although I understand why.
Time for a Collab with Lite Brite
Price point on the ZR2 Silverado is a little ridiculous though when it is only a few thousand cheaper than the TRX, and not the stance or attention of a Raptor. The Colorado is the best midsized truck option for those wanting to overland or trail and will see how the 2023+ launch later this month will reveal more on upcoming capabilities. Sad the 2.8L minimax is going away likely, but hopefully the performance of the 2.5L turbo will give the little truck some pep
A very wise choice not to continue on the devils crack. I would choose the Silverado anytime. Keep on rockin TFL
My proper rocksliders are showing up today for my ZR2 Silverado, I just got back from the Downieville to La Porte trail, a lot of it is a Rubicon Jeep trail only or rather OHV kind of thing, it made it through amazingly! The lockers were amazing, if I had a Trailboss I wouldn't have been able to get through with out some luck and momentum lol
Now once the Silverado ZR2 Bison shows up, we can compare Bisons. Though, by then, the new Colorado might be waiting for a new ZR2.
The Raptor R is the only pickup truck that I could think of that will replace the Silverado ZR2. If it's coming very soon or a Bronco Raptor.
Great video guys, I am a long time fewer from the beginning of y'all's shows.
I am a zr2 colorado duramax owner. It's a perfect do all for me. Tows enough for lil truck 6/7k is perfect for pulling cars. Best offroader fits and locked, great mpgs with diesel getting 30hwy without deleted just tuned. All in a offroad rig with a frontend designed exactly opposite of air dynamic lol
Keep up the great work guys
That just wasn’t that long for keeping that zr2. If fans are already bored of it, that says something about the truck just not being that great.
The Tacoma hasn’t changed since 2016. Yet every yr in the past 4 yrs I’ve heard the “new” Tacoma
No comparison the Colorado is better because of its size and the price. The only thing negative about those trucks are those stupid rear shock supports but I would change them and modify them the way they should be.
... is it true the V6 is being replaced by the Turbo 4cyl in the 2023 Colorado as the only gas engine available ? ...
Sigh... Chevy continuing the tradition of offering shock mount brackets that hang lower than the rear diff.
When the Lightning brings the Thunder these dinosaurs are going to look way overpriced, underpowered, and archaic.
Where abouts is this?