Using A Cellphone Cooler On A CPU?
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
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Next year, we’ll see Intel and AMD including one in the box as a “stock cooler”
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PLEASE NO. dont give them ideas 🤣
The Wraith coolers aren't that bad, Even Intel stock is going to be "fine" in most cases, just a shame that when they updated it, all the update amounted to was really a cheaper way to manufacturer something of the same performance instead of you know, better performance.
they bought their new coolers at temu
What’s the difference I thought the stock cooler was for a phone
That's a testament to power management/throttling in modern CPUs, we're long beyond the days of K6's and Cyrixes cooking themselves to death because of lack of built-in thermal management.
Yes, it has come a LONG way.
While throttling is a bit more recent, even the K7 chips would turn off when getting too hot.
A K6 was my first-ever build a long long time ago.
@@HappyBeezerStudios i can't recall exactly but I remember the first open die athlons being "targeted" for no thermal protection, or bad thermal protection. I believe outlets were yanking coolers off cpu's and sometimes the chip would die instead of turning off...
With a fan failure it would survive since the temp rise was gradual, but abusing the chip with a sudden no cooler situation would kill them (or some of them).
This was back in my dialup days reading overclocking and CPU stuff, I never tested it for myself, but I remember some outlet covering it.
That reminds me of the famous Tom's Hardware CPU cooling video where the K7 Athlon burns itself
5:33 When this music starts playing, you know Dawid starts to release his inner mad scientist
it has a very mythbusters feel, which is fitting, since most of what we do here is fucking ar- i mean science
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when terms as "bareback" are used, you know we are past the science phase..
😂@@schizofennec
The fact the cooler isn’t pressured down other than with gravity it is impressive it still can transfer heat away as well as it did.
No doubt The general idea of a low power pelt and hsf gives me a few ideas for a real build in a very small form factor. If i could get say a little better than stock cooling on a rig powerful enough to run my security cam software that needs good cpu and gpu id be quite a happy camper.
I need like a i5 6th gen and a 1080 for gpu to run it with out lag time between camera and what is displayed
Yeah, where are the zip ties?
As other youtubers already proved: Using a paltier for CPU cooling is a terrible idea. So yeah, please do it.
Sfdx show xD
*peltier
it might be beneficial for size constrained coolers
They also tend to try it on pretty power hungry CPU's, well compared to phones at least. It might be interesting to see this on a handheld like a steam deck or ROG ally though.
@@banko-xv4rt No, you just creating a bigger problem. You need a 100W peltier to cool a 100W CPU. Now you have to remove 200W of heat instead of 100W, which means you need to have a bigger cooler. And you need a bigger PSU to power the peltier.
Next video: Cooling an iPhone 13 with a Wraith Stealth cooler!
hell no why on earth would he pit that cooler to cool such a cool tech product it would be pointless😲😲
I feel like the lattepanda would benefit from a retest with proper mounting.
Get a metal ship, optimally copper, to bridge the gap and have it properly mounted down with enough pressure.
cracking the die seems really likely this way
Why not remove the back and magnets and put the actual cooling plate part that is cooling on to the lattepanda, maybe the Z height this time will work.
Yes I agree
In fact, I even concur.
I am in accord with that
You have my full consent.
100%
Can't argue
I fully expect Dawid to accidentally solve fusion power one of these days.
That would be amazing
That fan genuinely looks like a mcdonalds happy meal toy
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How to make your CPU fry an egg: Dawid Does Tech Stuff edition
Yes please.
I used to have a peltier cooler called the Eliminator. It worked for years and dropped my temps to around 11-12 degrees C at full blast. It used a lot of power but in them days electric was cheap so that wasn't a worry
I remember wanting a peltier cooler for my and K6-3... It was almost stable at a 100mhz overclock from 350 to 450mhz, and I figured that a better cooler would make it happen.
I delidded that chip and went direct die also. That's when it was allllllmost stable but would crash occasionally and figured a peltier would get it working.... Plus they were interesting.
Yeah, power usage is a problem with peltier.
bruh today electric cost always increasing and not cheap anymore
@@privacyhelpback in the day, i assumed it's 90's
Would love to see more vids like this was really expecting a small fire to spawn at some point
A lot back in time, some guys at a French VG magazine tried to cool a Pentium IV CPU with a Peltier. They nearly froze the CPU to death in a few seconds while it was at full load, which means a lot when you remember how those Pentium IV were getting hot.
False pelteir coolers are not efficient enough to cool anything that's why we don't use them also cooler master had a cooler with a pelteir in it and it's still ass till this day ltt done videos on them and derbuer has a video on the cooler master cooler that has it in it soo also pentuim 4 cpus run at 40c on newer coolers back in the day the coolers we used where ass
A pelteir cooler can only cool up to 70% of its energy cost meaning if it's use 120 Watson it would only be able to keep something with a heat cost of 80 watts so maybe a low end cpu but it won't be freezing it
it was the end of the 90s everything was possible efficiency was only for gas
I played around with peltiers for cooling the print bed of a homemade chocolate printer. I had 2 peltiers stacked on top of each other, with a water-cooling block cooling the stack off. I was able to get the aluminum print bed down to 20f. But, double-stacking peltiers is super inefficient, power wise...which is exactly why you should try a double-stack with water cooling! Most peltiers go up to 12 volts, so it's easy enough to use the 12v rail from a PC power supply to run them.
i wanted to test this too , glad you doing the testing .
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Loving your content from a cross the pond in the UK
From 5:57 I genuinely held my breath thinking I was gonna see fire.
Hopefully you remembered to pay the insurance premium first.
I checked so fast haha @@MoultrieGeek
Extinguishers aren’t cheap 😅
Awesomesauce video, Dawid!! There's nothing like making cooling potential look cool.
And YES!!! I want to see Peltier coolers
Got one of these delivered the day this came out, fun!
Love your vids Dawid! You make me feel good about my very lower midrange tech.
Back in the early 2000s my friends and I were already thinking about using Peltier cooling for PCs - never done it tho
You could find it done back then. It wasn't super common, but I spent a lot of time on overclocker forums around 00.
I really enjoy these stupid experiments. It keeps me coming back for the fresh chuckles.
Great video! That little cooler definitely punches above its weight class. I would have liked to see how it would do with fps capped at 60 as well- I bet temps would have been in the 70s
peltier plates, hearing those words takes me back about 15-20 years lol
been a while since peltier cooler was in my vocabulary. Always wondered why nothing came of that.
Yep back in the early 2000s and late 1990s we used to overclock cpu like this. Main issue was condensation if I recall correctly.
The reason the phone cooler wasn't working as expected isn't because it's small, but because peltier coolers need to have a "thermal mass" much like the metal plate you'd attach to your iphone in order to buffer and move the heat to the other side. Attaching a peltier directly to a cpu causes the peltier to heat up along side the cpu greatly decreasing its performance while increasing the amount of electricity is needed to pump heat to the other side, to remedy this, you'll need to attach a "thicc" slab of metal between the cpu and the cold side of the peltier to serve as the "thermal mass".
What metal plate? Theres already is one inside the peltier.
@@bulletpunch9317 Read my comment again to answer your question.
@@Unassuming_Troll theres no extra metal plate to attach to your iphone. What are you on about?
@@bulletpunch9317your phone by itself is big slab of metal which takes on thermal mass and spreads it. Compated to power output of CPU+GPU in phone it is...
@@DimkaTsv these coolers work well on full plastic phones too.
I love all of Dawid's ideas. He does the things I think about but have no resources to actually do it. Thanks Dawid!
that tiny peltier module really put up a show
Need to use this in my next rig
I love this channel and love that you're Canadian too
I have thoroughly enjoyed Dawid's transition from total neckbeard nerd to computer Jesus in the span of the last three years
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I do like the stupid, crazy crap you do. Very entertaining.
Please play around with this more. It would be interesting to see what you come up with.
What a cooler! I'm interested in more use cases with it 😊.
I actually though about this stupid shit idea this morning, funny to see a video about it later that day
finally found a video to satify my curiousity
Dawid's editing is on point. Not once did I see one of the several fire extinguishers surely out of shot lolol ^_^'
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This is such a ridiculous project that I am craving for more! :)
new video = new tech torture
I really think you should try the peltier coolers in more detail. I have built several projects using them and they are very neat (as long as they can dissipate the heat THEY generate on the opposing side). eBay has some pseudo refrigeration units using them that are interesting if not slightly comical. Depending on wattage, you can use a motor speed controller to adjust the power going to the peltier modules if you choose to make them adjustable.
I was expecting it to crash the moment you got into the BFV menu. The surprise is immesurable and my day isn't ruined by any means.
I would dearly love to to see you work some Dawid magic with peltier plates!
I literally rewound 10 seconds to see the shroud pop up cuz i was eating and looking at my food XD love the Shroud
I'm actually impressed it could run a 20w chip fairly well, I didn't realise it had a peltier in it, I wonder how many watts it pulls?
They are supposed to be pretty inefficient.
It’d be cool to see this experiment with one of those “liquid cooling” solutions for higher-end gaming phones!
full on send it! that's why i love your channel. the stupid videos are the best videos on this channel, lol!
Now this is true enginuity, super glad you did this!
I do like the Idea. There is also a possible StepUp as you used a 6cm Diameter Version and there is a 10cm one for Tablets.
THIS is the content we need
Yes!!! I wanna see a video with more peltier effect coolers
I remember reading about companies dabbling with Peltier CPU coolers back in the early 2000s. Probably in Maximum PC. I'm not sure if any of them ever reached the market, though.
A phone cooler,haven't watched the video yet but that's crazy fam😂😂 can't wait to watch it
If ever hardware are sentient we might hear there screams of terror as they approach Dawid's House. Absolute mad lab I love it.
I'm all for this experiment!
Actually surprised the magnets didn't brick the CPUs.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
why would they?
Magnets interfere with electrical conduction. @@BenState
@@mrnlce7939 Magnets dont affect conduction. Either way, no interference at the scale and voltages in a cpu, otherwise we'd have issues with the fans.
Always fun when Dawid uploads something that’s clearly gonna fail.
i use a similar one(about 10cm diameter) to cool 7900xtx reference version, removed the backplate of the gpu and it can magnetize to it, put a 2.5mm thermal pad in the gap, it also includes a insulating film to avoid short circult, it works.
i wanna see more of the peltiar coolers
Lunatic, absolutely certifiable, love it!
Dawid the master of stupid tech stuff , another masterclass .🤣
Thanks for making my day , love these vids .
Dawid answering all the questions living rent free in our minds
As someone whose recently just used a phone cooler you'll need to have 2 phone cooler 1 that works as exhaust and one that is working as intake with just 1 that intakes air it would essentially be a space heater
he does things like that with mid-high end PC parts while there are people like me who wish they even had access to this type of components
I sense a lot of throttling in this video. Of the thermal variety.
Not sure what went through you head when you decided to make this, but I like it.
close / using a cell phone to do frequency emf things to help overclock and design new architectures
Back in the early 2000s there used to be a cooler called the Ultra ChillTec which employed a Peltier effect thermoelectric cooler slapped on the bottom of a very large heatsink... I have one but lack the mounting hardware. Would be interesting to see how it holds up to something like a modern system or even something stupid like a graphics card...
We love to see that phone cooler sticked on without its back on !!
i love this guys' accent for no reason
Sometimes i'm convinced that Dawid doesn't fight intuitive thoughts, he is powered by them.
Dawid answering questions no one else had the balls to ask I love it
Now that you got the fan open though you should take that part that's covered in thermal paste and stick that directly to the processor
I agree, maybe he didn't want it to work
just shows how amazing that cpu is more than anything
This is crazy Dawid lmao!
Yeah gonna need you to take that little thermal thingy out and put it straight on the cpu
You should do this test again but with the most powerful phone cooler
Yes, yes, yes! Dawid and Peltier Coolers, nothing could go wrong there!
I just got done watching the mini pc vid too so lets go
More Peltiers! I was wondering when we'd see them outside of flea markets.
you should try the same experiment but with pressure so that the cooler has better contact
the fact that it could run half life 2 at 30 fps blows my mind
The fact that it doesn't get more is the real surprise. A 2003-era midrange card could do 55 fps on 1600x1200. And remember that that is that era's equivalent of 4k today. In 1280x1024 you'd get almost 80 fps.
@@HappyBeezerStudios You do realize the Ryzen slowed itself down and cut power by a lot when reaching TJMax? It's amazing it didn't just turn off, which it does when ran without a cooler (unless it blows up during POST).
Guys, the Lattepanda was running HL2 at 35 FPS. You know, the $240 PC the size of a calculator? Not talking the Ryzen here. That's nuts.
@@MisterFoxton i didnt know it was 240 dollars...thats a bummer
@@HappyBeezerStudiosi didnt know it was 240 dollars, also the whole system was still smaller than a graphics card
I have been waiting for something stupid… and this is exactly what I was looking for!
Dawid Does Peltiers = Definite watch.
Totally the right kind of dumb thing I needed for a difficult day. Thank you.
ngl this is a pretty good endorsement for the phone cooler
The GT10-thiddy cooler: ah finally, a challenger
WELCOME BACK CLASSIC DAWID CONTENT!!!
wtf, i was fully expecting it to just refuse to boot
We need more shenanigans for sure.
I can always rely on Dawid for the wild combinations of hardware.
Wonder if temps would have been different without the aluminum plate on the bottom, and the peltier sitting directly on the CPU heat spreader?
You need to scale it and create your own cooling device.
What new strange things will this guy come up with next? All i know is that we need to see more of it and like right now!
You really should do the same video but with a cooler from a gaming phone, those are very powerful and can cool below 0°
in some cases you can even see the ice forming on the lower plate
would have been interesting to see him upgrade the paste on the peliter cooler too!
These results make it seem that its the power throttling doing more to keep temps down. I wonder if just a chunk copper would work better.
default fan cooler for cpu actually weird, the centre doesn't have the direct wind, the wind fan goes side
Back in the pentium days, we used to use the older (all copper) pennies to bridge any sort of gap like the one you encountered with your raspberry Pi. They are remarkably efficient at transferring heat. I'm a little disappointed you didn't try that...
Should try this with actual mounting pressure zip tie the cooler or something similar also def should explain that when these get overwhelmed with heat they start to heat up instead.