you know that feeling when you bought really tasty priced gpu during aftermath of crypto gold rush a year ago, slapped a waterblock on it (bye-bye warranty) and you see this? this feeling is called HEART ATTACK GOD DAMMIT.
You know those tests arent really any good right? Like they're basically meaningless and every major youtuber will just add in subjective results to the tests anyways making it just a waste of everyone's time.
@@eat5827 Remember his CRT videos? As much as I enjoy his content Dawid doesn't always do himself justice by, you know, preparing properly with a bit of homework.
Also in New Zealand 🇳🇿 you can buy this brand in a local computer store. PB tech! I have one for the last 3 years. It has a cool function where you can connect two HDMI’s and run it as two separate monitors!
yeah i was wondering if it was the same brand. i think the panels they use are ones rejected by Samsung QC so it can be very hit and miss if the one you buy is any good
I'm just really impressed by the stand and how you can rotate the monitor around and stuff. That is not a level of usability I'd expect from some random company on AliExpress.
My monitor was like £300 in 2020 and all the stand does is tilt the screen up or down, keep telling myself to get a third party stand but never do it. I just put a book under the feet and it lifted it up enough.
@@gintozlato1880 My curved LG ultrawide's stand doesn't swivel, rotate, or even height adjust. Honestly, it BARELY holds the monitor. I wonder if Titan Army just sells the stand. I like the orange cable glory hole.
For good reason. My LG OLED TV got (very faint) burn in after 6 months, and after 2 years it was ruined. Bad time to find out LG doesn't cover burn in on the warranty.
Usual trick with OLED would be to have two monitors. OLED for movies and gaming (without static elements) , and plain regular IPS for plain old office and browsing tasks 😉
For sure. Not meant as a brag, but I own 3 oled tv's. 1 was the living room tv and 1 for in "the cave" mostly for games. Both of them could go pretty bright and looked amazing(and no burn in 3 years in), so I wanted an LG oled monitor. I returned it a day later. Its not even close to the tv's, mostly because of the low brightness and "anti glare" coating. I used to own a 1k nit FALD monitor and that screen looked amazing, really screamed " BRO HDR" so for monitors I would rather use falds. Like a Desert scene would almost be blinding on the FALD, but would be dimmer then a normal monitor on the oled. Really missing the impact of the scene
Did you check if local dimming was turned on? That might explain why you didn't see any halos around bright objects and also noticed IPS glow, which should only be present if the backlight is actually on (which it shouldn't be for large black areas).
There does seem to be a brighter zone around the mouse cursor at 6:18 and the measured contrast levels are clearly too high for native IPS panel, though it's questionable what level/setting the backlight was on.
I wish there were actual Aliexpress/Temu stores to shop at that offer all the random things they sell online... I would get a part time job to spend all of my money there.
Funny enough we actually have something like that in the Netherlands. The store is called “action” and its basically AliExpress in real life lol. Unfortunately it isn’t quite as big as the online AliExpress, wish and temu stuff of course
It'd be fun, yeah. There's a lot of wonky things that don't work, but also a lot of wonky things that do. It really helps the product selection to have the world's largest Ewaste-repurposing city plugged into the backend of the platform's pipeline.
I know for a fact that some of the "better" HP monitors do come with the sheet for testing before shipping. We got some of their Z monitors in and they all had a few pre-calibrated sheets with them.
I have to admit, the one thing that I like the most of this monitor is the looks of it from the back. It feels so good to see a non black modern monitor, that's from the front. Because from the back they are ever rarer. This silver and orange one...and I am not saying it just because I love orange, is beautiful. Yes ok the plastic can be felt through the internet, but still I would love to have one that looked like that. Thanks for the video.
Don't forget that you can also benefit from buying a high-end monitor off of Facebook marketplace. Just make sure to test it for dead pixels and other anomalies.
How do you benefit? By making the numbers in your bank account smaller and getting almost nothing in return, while having to deal with assbags that use Facebook?
Depending on the panel, the processing and the dimming performance, mini LED panels can be very good and put up a decent fight against full fat OLEDs. I have a TCL mini LED TV and it's a great compromise between price, size and performance. It's a very solid technology in the right unit.
This isn't a rebranded INNOCN, but it is using the same monitor chassis as the INNOCN 27M2V. They are both mini-LED, but the INNOCN 27M2V is 4K with 1152 dimming zones rather than the 1440p monitor with 384 dimming zones shown in this video. I own a INNOCN 32M2V and it's an excellent HDR monitor.
Many moons ago, I bought a 27in 1440p monitor direct from the factory in Korea via eBay. Hands down one of the best monitors I have ever owned, and finally got replaced only a few months back by a 4K panel for no reason other than a lack of Dual-Link DVI outputs on modern video cards. I still have the monitor and an older video card to drive it.
I also bought a super cheap 27 inch 1440p monitor like 4 years ago from a company called pixio. They had by far The cheapest 1440p 165hz at the time and it's bloody brilliant. Hasn't let me down and it's powered on for like 12 hours a day.
@nyanpasu64 Only because of the speed and signalling protocol, I'm sure if DVI is connected, the transmitting or receiving end will drop back. The impression I get is that the monitor is DVI so will not support high speed HDMI and high speed HDMI is not required, thus a £10 HDMI TO DVI adapter will do the required job to continue to use the monitor
@@brucethen Well you won't get a 1440p DVI panel's native resolution with a passive HDMI to DVI cable. There's, well, DP to dual link DVI active converters, and you can buy a HDMI to DP converter, because apparently people haven't been able to find HDMI to dual link DVI splitters directly.
I've noticed that a lot of Chinese electronics have skyrocketed in quality over the past couple of years. A while back you wouldn't catch me dead looking at their peripherals; now I legitimately consider them when making budget purchases. I honestly look forward to what a lot of these companies will put out in the near future.
I remember years ago when oppo phones were releasing they said chinese brands are trying to get into the market with top quality tech & fast forward a few years oppo is one of the top phone brands each year as well as lenovo dominating in the PC department. interesting to see what another 10 years has to show
@@makuIaLenovo was long before as well, to this day their only good computers come from talent bought in the IBM computer division buyout almost 20 years ago
You guys don't even get to see the really nice low cost stuff outside China. This monitor is actually only about $240 in the mainland and I just picked up a 34" 4k 165hz ultrawide for $220 that has similar performance.
It would have been interesting to know how much you'd have to turn down the Mini-LED display to match the max brightness of the OLED and what that did to the overall image quality, in terms of colours/blacks.
Hi David; I am not sure how much attention you pay to the supplied plug adapter, but similar ones I have received are insanely dangerous; the in/out copper connects by TOUCHING, held together by the tightness of the screws holding the adapter together. If those screws arent tight, or come loose over time, the copper connections will also loosen, and you are facing potential arc-ing/towering inferno situations. I throw all mine away, cut off the Chinese market plug, and fit a proper one - in my case the UK plug; even the cheapest, nastiest, Chinese sweatshop made UK plug is a billion times better than the adapters I have received (but I use MK branded plugs anyway).
The problem with HDR monitors is most basically lie about their specs, and there's a lot of confusion on how HDR works. just cause a display says it's capable of 1000nits, doesn't mean it can do that where it matters. You also may not have seen any blooming cause the display may not at default had local dimming enabled. There's a tool i made called "HDR Demo" you can find on itch that's intended to clear up how this stuff works. And also give some good tests so you can understand a displays capabilities.
Would've been cool to see you trying out some HDR gaming on it (if you didn't), as far as I understand that's probably where a monitor like this would benefit most from its high brightness.
Titan army are actually at our big tech store here in New Zealand. I've never brought them though, they are cheap but a bunch of reviews mention dead pixels out of the box
I can only play relaxed in 80-100% dark room(blinds closed), so the oled brigthness is a non issue,the only problem is that the plants are dieing and my wife keeps crying that shes tired of staying in the dark
I am 99% sure Acer sells this same monitor as the Nitro XV275U P3biipx. The native contrast you measured means it has the same VA panel. So if you want this monitor for like half the price buy that.
Searing IPS glow is exactly why I returned one Asus TUF 27" monitor (don't recall the exact model) for a ROG XG32VC. While the VA panel takes some tuning to help with black levels smearing, it is a fraction of the cost of OLED and offers some great contrast. I personally love it. Next monitor will be OLED, though. SO smooth, great color and contrast. WOW.
Bought an Alienware (AW3423DWF) oled monitor four months ago: it is quite perfect for me, although having to stop for 7 minutes every four hours so the monitor can do its anti-burn-ins thing, I wish there was another way to get that "perfection". I long hesitated to buy a mini-led monitor instead, the ips ones having the low contrast ratios, while the va ones having bad other things (can't remember what it was up the top of my head atm), I finally went with this monitor. As I play mainly arpg games, I don't need super high fps, so 165hz was quite alright.
IPS poor contrast was the reason I used VAs for so long, until I got my qd-oled, now its like I put the glasses from "They Live" on, and I can never go back.
Second comment, but you mentioned that you can still see the dimming zones. Personally, I held out on getting a MiniLED until I saw the monitor I have now (Cooler Master GP27FUS) with over 500 dimming zones @ 27" the zones are almost half the size as this Titan Army one (and its 4K 160hz 1450nits) they're pretty small and I LOVE the black levels on the display and since the zones are so small the halo effect isn't all that noticeable. Though I heard about the upcoming REDMAGIC 27" 4K MiniLED which has 5088 dimming zones - me thinks this is the holy grail before OLED and probably my next monitor!
4:02 - we’ve near identical Persian rug designs. Were you & Ana both JETs in Japan? Thanks for catering to my interests. I’d love to see you compare an Xbox X to a comparable cost Mini PC (Ryzen/Radeon Graphics) to determine which is the Gameriest Solution.
I recently bought a second mini-LED monitor from a small brand. The first unit cost me about USD700, almost 1/6 the price compared to the Dell model with the same panel. Really appreciate the existence of these manufactures. XD
100% Adobe RGB coverage and high refresh rates combined make Mini LED a bit of a Godsend to Graphic Designers who game 🎮 Previously, we've always had to choose one or the other
I have an LG with peak HDR brightness of 1500 nits. I had to get a service remote to disable the auto dimming BS...but after doing that it's been excellent. Had it for 2 years and no issues, no burn in. Just a great screen.
I had this exact monitor, it is look good when gaming and i found no black light bleed problem but yes its is too damn bright I have to adjust to 30% brightness and contrast to feel comfortable when not gaming
Is there a menu item for „Local Dimming“? That should be enabled, because only then the 284 dimming zones will work. In the scene with your measuring equipment, the whole screen was light up. That should not be the case with a MiniLED-screen. My LG MiniLED-TV has such a menu item and it changes the picture A LOT.
that would be too bright for me bro! i thought it was also funny that your keyboard was having a stroke with the lights towards the end of the video! anyway love your content bro! 😃👍
im quite interested in mini led myself and i found a decent mini led monitor "AOC Q27G3XMN 27" for only 280$ us in amazon with mini led, 1000 nits brightness and a va panel. and for almost half the price i would like to see a comparison to these monitors
Same here. There is also the KTC M27T20. It has the same specs aside from a downgrade in 165hz but it has 576 dimming zones an upgrade from the AOC's 336 zones. Also nice that it has 90w USB C connection with a KVM built in for just $80 more than AOC. I want the better features but I am also torn about the weak 1 year warranty. One thing I do know is that KTC makes the monitors for Cooler Master line of mini LED monitors.
@@MrMega200I have the KTC and I’m very happy with it. Black smearing is not noticeable and vrr works well with local dimming after updating the firmware.
There are some reviews of that AOC, I've seen it on a rtings and some other website, it seems to be a very good monitor. I'm also thinking about buying it in a month or two.
@@MrMega200 yeah my problem is that i live in europe and the aoc starts at 400€ and the ktc at 450€ so a little bit too much for my price point but i am waiting for a sale maybe if one of them dropped to 330€ or so i would consider buying them
the 1st gen qd-oleds already have insane peak brightness. 1000 nits in a small window, dimming as the overall screen gets brighter, but it's still plenty bright. i've had the alienware DWF for over a year and i don't keep it at max brightness cuz it gets squinting bright. night time scenes are breathtaking.
Hi Dawid, Viewer from New Zealand here, In Australia and New Zealand Titan Army is known name brand - it uses panels from reputable brands and they normally tell you whose panel is in which display. They are Discount brand selling very cheap monitors - the catch is they are normally B-Grade panels hence why they are so cheap! Normally PB Tech in NZ would sell Titan Army units but they appear to only have 1 unit left (could be a new years restocking issue)
Great video Dawid, did you notice the thin bezel wasn't that thin, as you had a 5-7mm black edge all the way round! Have you tried to expand it to the edges?
Well there's a bunch of words I never expected to see together. The VESA stand included with my sub-$300 LG feels sturdy enough to support my weight and I'm 245lb (110kg, 14St 7lb)
There’s a retailer in NZ that imports Titan army stuff. It’s generally Samsung panels that failed qc for some reason or another, but they are great value for money.
I have a pg27aqdm, I bought it a couple of months ago, now it just sits and collects dust, since I don’t use it. It makes eyes very tired and strained, they become red, dry and you feel discomfort, and nothing can be done about it. Now I switched back to my old pg27uq, my eyes thanked me very much. Who wants to buy an OLED monitor for games, think about your eyesight, at least with the Asus PG27aqdm it is very straining on the eyes, so for games I think the best choice would be an IPS with a fald
That's a Dell standard monitor stand mount! Just about any Dell monitor from the past 15 or so years will snap right into it and vice versa meaning so you get a cheap Dell monitor stand that's got a heavier base and less wobble and/or more tilt, spin, and rotation you want. Neat, love it when 'eh just copy them' works out for the best!
Oh, are they back to making good monitor mounts? That's good to know; I have one from 2010 that's not even adjustable except you can tilt it slightly up and down, and I was afraid that might have become the norm.
Titan Army is not a "random ali express" brand which is why it's really decent. Titan Army have been in the game for ages and are a well renowned brand outside of North America. My local boutique sells them too who specialise in high end gear. I got some of their IPS monitors like over a decade ago as well from eBay. They're actually very good
I personally am patiently waiting for Mini-LED to have per pixels backlighting like you said in the video and i think that would be an end game monitor if i'm not mistaken.
That shipping price is insane. I just bought this exact monitor from a local retailer for 300 USD, and it was not a discount price. Strange that you didn't mention weird contrast stuff this monitor does with it's local dimming algorithms tho, using local dimming in windows or interface-heavy games makes some (not really) funny things with colors. Still damn good value for this price.
The box looks like Dawid had to get in a knife fight with the delivery driver to get the package. And the delivery driver was using the box as a shield
I think this is just a older version of the innocn monitors literally same design down to the minute details, probably came from the same factory. their current offerings ups the LEDs to 1152 zones (and available in 4k). so basically, i'd go buy the innocn which has been plenty reviewed online and is fairly reputable as a decent but cheaper than competitor brand rather than some unknown brand off of aliexpress.
This is similar to the KTC M27T20. I tried it out, but returned it bc I was too annoyed by the smearing and lack of black uniformity. I should've known better bc I never liked VA panels.
I'm always curious about this monitor . locally you can find it here in Malaysia for around 386usd . thank you for making this video. btw they also make a 32" 4k version of this monitor for 780usd.
I have a 576 local dimming backlight and the only game that struggles is night time flying in flight simulator. That said I can choose medium or low local dimming setting to help out
Every monitor I owned now I turned the brightness way down, sometimes to only 40 or 30%. I like my retinas not get blown to bits :) Interesting comparisions in this video :)
I bought a Titan Army mornitor during 11-11 sales with $100+ coupons, monitor arrived undamaged within 2 weeks. It is way much better than my old AOC VA monitor although it is not fair to compare IPS to VA. My original plan was to buy Yeston Waifu GPU but it was way too expensive comparing to local non waifu GPU.
Oh, I'm so old... Whenever the 'Holy Grails' of modern monitors are discussed I can't help thinking, "Funny, all that stuff was taken for granted with CRTs." No, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm not a 'CRT gamer'. We collectively decided flat panels are better so the CRT died a death, but like all shifts in technology there is a price to be paid. I do however wonder if there might be a niche market for 'modern' CRTs..? With the aid of technological developments I bet if somebody really tried a very flat and relatively light CRT in pretty well any aspect ratio would be possible... ...BITD a UK lunatic called Clive Sinclair (most famous for the ZX Spectrum, even though he really only wanted to make business machines) came up with a somewhat flat panel CRT for his portable TV.
@@AnnaDoes Glad for Dawid's channel showing how sometimes PC stuff is just cursed. If it's any possible, maybe a "how to set a PC up" video in the channel's usual style might be fun!
I have one, the AOC Q27G3XMN. It has only 336 dimming zones but honestly it works really well. I keep local dimming on a majority of the time and the blacks are very, very deep. It also gets very bright.
I wonder when Dawid is going to do a "$250 gaming PC" using one of those cheap CPU/RAM/Motherboard combos from AliExpress. That seems like something he would try.
Careful with the eldritch horrors at 6:28, it's hard to keep them out of the editing software
bruh i tought my gpu was artifacting xd
Bro I was like did my monitor just glitch.
Some words were definitely edited out.
@@pretizco3679 Same LOL, I had to rewind to make sure.
you know that feeling when you bought really tasty priced gpu during aftermath of crypto gold rush a year ago, slapped a waterblock on it (bye-bye warranty) and you see this? this feeling is called HEART ATTACK GOD DAMMIT.
you can test the dimming zones by playing a video of a white bar going across the screen.
For ghosting/motion blur, you can use ufo test.
The fact they're not included in this video seems extremely lazy
Right, and it would also show whether it actually works at all. Pretty major thing to leave out imo
@@eat5827 its a for fun channel, not a serious review thing
You know those tests arent really any good right? Like they're basically meaningless and every major youtuber will just add in subjective results to the tests anyways making it just a waste of everyone's time.
@@eat5827 Remember his CRT videos? As much as I enjoy his content Dawid doesn't always do himself justice by, you know, preparing properly with a bit of homework.
Also in New Zealand 🇳🇿 you can buy this brand in a local computer store. PB tech! I have one for the last 3 years. It has a cool function where you can connect two HDMI’s and run it as two separate monitors!
They are at the heart LG and Samsung panels with a white label brand but they can be a bit colour inaccurate
Russia too
oh ok
I thought Titan Army sounded familiar, I always thought they were only a PB Tech thing.
yeah i was wondering if it was the same brand. i think the panels they use are ones rejected by Samsung QC so it can be very hit and miss if the one you buy is any good
I'm just really impressed by the stand and how you can rotate the monitor around and stuff. That is not a level of usability I'd expect from some random company on AliExpress.
My expensive LG monitor's stand cannot even do all of that 🤣
My monitor was like £300 in 2020 and all the stand does is tilt the screen up or down, keep telling myself to get a third party stand but never do it. I just put a book under the feet and it lifted it up enough.
@@gintozlato1880 My curved LG ultrawide's stand doesn't swivel, rotate, or even height adjust. Honestly, it BARELY holds the monitor. I wonder if Titan Army just sells the stand. I like the orange cable glory hole.
And it takes up LESS space than the vshaped monitor stands that most monitors have
The range of motions makes me thing they took a good look at Dell monitor stands :D
I think the main problem with OLED technology and monitors right now is the manufacturers are terrified of burn in so they under crank the brightness.
Manufacturers are terrified that customers would be terrified*
I'd take less brightness, over expensive monitor that needs replacing every few years
For good reason. My LG OLED TV got (very faint) burn in after 6 months, and after 2 years it was ruined. Bad time to find out LG doesn't cover burn in on the warranty.
@@DSS553hit them under the lemon policy.. or buy a good in-store warranty as this could lead to a free upgrade if the monitor goes out of production.
Usual trick with OLED would be to have two monitors. OLED for movies and gaming (without static elements) , and plain regular IPS for plain old office and browsing tasks 😉
For sure. Not meant as a brag, but I own 3 oled tv's. 1 was the living room tv and 1 for in "the cave" mostly for games.
Both of them could go pretty bright and looked amazing(and no burn in 3 years in), so I wanted an LG oled monitor.
I returned it a day later. Its not even close to the tv's, mostly because of the low brightness and "anti glare" coating.
I used to own a 1k nit FALD monitor and that screen looked amazing, really screamed " BRO HDR" so for monitors I would rather use falds.
Like a Desert scene would almost be blinding on the FALD, but would be dimmer then a normal monitor on the oled. Really missing the impact of the scene
Did you check if local dimming was turned on? That might explain why you didn't see any halos around bright objects and also noticed IPS glow, which should only be present if the backlight is actually on (which it shouldn't be for large black areas).
There does seem to be a brighter zone around the mouse cursor at 6:18 and the measured contrast levels are clearly too high for native IPS panel, though it's questionable what level/setting the backlight was on.
I also questioned this. If it wasn't on there is a reason he wasn't seeing dimming.
I wish there were actual Aliexpress/Temu stores to shop at that offer all the random things they sell online... I would get a part time job to spend all of my money there.
Lmfao
Funny enough we actually have something like that in the Netherlands. The store is called “action” and its basically AliExpress in real life lol. Unfortunately it isn’t quite as big as the online AliExpress, wish and temu stuff of course
It'd be fun, yeah. There's a lot of wonky things that don't work, but also a lot of wonky things that do. It really helps the product selection to have the world's largest Ewaste-repurposing city plugged into the backend of the platform's pipeline.
a fool and his money and so forth
Yay! More cheap Chinese garbage! Buy it all!
New Zealand and Australia use that power plug.
But upside down 🙃
Cut it and you got universe plug 👍
So does China
@@Tyomas1983that's because we're upside down
really handy when buying stuff off chinese websites
That moment when Aliexpress monitors come far more accurately pre-calibrated than most monitors twice its price... 😬
Yet you still need to adjust things so it's ultimately pointless
Not really when it's half the price?
I know for a fact that some of the "better" HP monitors do come with the sheet for testing before shipping. We got some of their Z monitors in and they all had a few pre-calibrated sheets with them.
I have to admit, the one thing that I like the most of this monitor is the looks of it from the back. It feels so good to see a non black modern monitor, that's from the front. Because from the back they are ever rarer. This silver and orange one...and I am not saying it just because I love orange, is beautiful.
Yes ok the plastic can be felt through the internet, but still I would love to have one that looked like that.
Thanks for the video.
This brand is actually vastly available in SEA I believe, and actually has a very decent reputation over here (currently residing in Malaysia)
you never run out of content as long as u have aliexpress lmao
And I love it 😂😂
Lmao
Don't forget that you can also benefit from buying a high-end monitor off of Facebook marketplace. Just make sure to test it for dead pixels and other anomalies.
How do you benefit? By making the numbers in your bank account smaller and getting almost nothing in return, while having to deal with assbags that use Facebook?
@@Those_Weirdospeople could very well be selling their old monitors for cheap to get them out after upgrading
Not sure that’s a good idea. Displays can die too
FB marketplace is a joke...
ive sold all my great spare parts for good prices after upgrading on the fb marketplace,not everyone is a d bag scammer
Depending on the panel, the processing and the dimming performance, mini LED panels can be very good and put up a decent fight against full fat OLEDs. I have a TCL mini LED TV and it's a great compromise between price, size and performance. It's a very solid technology in the right unit.
INNOCN monitor is well reviewed, and this is just a rebranded version.
The question with Aliexpress is are you getting what you buy.
This isn't a rebranded INNOCN, but it is using the same monitor chassis as the INNOCN 27M2V. They are both mini-LED, but the INNOCN 27M2V is 4K with 1152 dimming zones rather than the 1440p monitor with 384 dimming zones shown in this video.
I own a INNOCN 32M2V and it's an excellent HDR monitor.
INNOCN is its own brand. Titan Army is another shittier company that makes monitors for Xiaomi/Redmi.
Time travelling at 6:29 😂
Many moons ago, I bought a 27in 1440p monitor direct from the factory in Korea via eBay. Hands down one of the best monitors I have ever owned, and finally got replaced only a few months back by a 4K panel for no reason other than a lack of Dual-Link DVI outputs on modern video cards. I still have the monitor and an older video card to drive it.
DVI and HDMI are electronically compatible. You can very cheaply adapt HDMI out to DVI in or visa versa
I also bought a super cheap 27 inch 1440p monitor like 4 years ago from a company called pixio. They had by far The cheapest 1440p 165hz at the time and it's bloody brilliant. Hasn't let me down and it's powered on for like 12 hours a day.
@@brucethen 1440p high speed HDMI is not electrically compatible with 1440p dual link DVI.
@nyanpasu64 Only because of the speed and signalling protocol, I'm sure if DVI is connected, the transmitting or receiving end will drop back.
The impression I get is that the monitor is DVI so will not support high speed HDMI and high speed HDMI is not required, thus a £10 HDMI TO DVI adapter will do the required job to continue to use the monitor
@@brucethen Well you won't get a 1440p DVI panel's native resolution with a passive HDMI to DVI cable. There's, well, DP to dual link DVI active converters, and you can buy a HDMI to DP converter, because apparently people haven't been able to find HDMI to dual link DVI splitters directly.
Im so happy Dawid is back! I love your content.
I've noticed that a lot of Chinese electronics have skyrocketed in quality over the past couple of years. A while back you wouldn't catch me dead looking at their peripherals; now I legitimately consider them when making budget purchases. I honestly look forward to what a lot of these companies will put out in the near future.
I remember years ago when oppo phones were releasing they said chinese brands are trying to get into the market with top quality tech & fast forward a few years oppo is one of the top phone brands each year as well as lenovo dominating in the PC department. interesting to see what another 10 years has to show
@@makuIaLenovo was long before as well, to this day their only good computers come from talent bought in the IBM computer division buyout almost 20 years ago
You guys don't even get to see the really nice low cost stuff outside China. This monitor is actually only about $240 in the mainland and I just picked up a 34" 4k 165hz ultrawide for $220 that has similar performance.
Lol not really
@@makuIaWhat you're talking about is what Huawei and loongson are doing.
i wish you would have discussed the rear side lighting of the back of the panel
It would have been interesting to know how much you'd have to turn down the Mini-LED display to match the max brightness of the OLED and what that did to the overall image quality, in terms of colours/blacks.
Hi David; I am not sure how much attention you pay to the supplied plug adapter, but similar ones I have received are insanely dangerous; the in/out copper connects by TOUCHING, held together by the tightness of the screws holding the adapter together.
If those screws arent tight, or come loose over time, the copper connections will also loosen, and you are facing potential arc-ing/towering inferno situations.
I throw all mine away, cut off the Chinese market plug, and fit a proper one - in my case the UK plug; even the cheapest, nastiest, Chinese sweatshop made UK plug is a billion times better than the adapters I have received (but I use MK branded plugs anyway).
Also “struggle but in an interesting way” should be the tagline for this channel
Too true :)
Happy new year Dawid, great work.
Honestly I'd choose higher brightness than deep OLED dark. It's just better for certain workload I have.
I also want a second Sun in my room.
The problem with HDR monitors is most basically lie about their specs, and there's a lot of confusion on how HDR works. just cause a display says it's capable of 1000nits, doesn't mean it can do that where it matters. You also may not have seen any blooming cause the display may not at default had local dimming enabled.
There's a tool i made called "HDR Demo" you can find on itch that's intended to clear up how this stuff works. And also give some good tests so you can understand a displays capabilities.
Would've been cool to see you trying out some HDR gaming on it (if you didn't), as far as I understand that's probably where a monitor like this would benefit most from its high brightness.
Titan army are actually at our big tech store here in New Zealand. I've never brought them though, they are cheap but a bunch of reviews mention dead pixels out of the box
Using 2 titan army myself for few months, no dead pixels at all whatsoever
I can only play relaxed in 80-100% dark room(blinds closed), so the oled brigthness is a non issue,the only problem is that the plants are dieing and my wife keeps crying that shes tired of staying in the dark
Backlight the wife?
@@MoultrieGeek :))
I am 99% sure Acer sells this same monitor as the Nitro XV275U P3biipx. The native contrast you measured means it has the same VA panel. So if you want this monitor for like half the price buy that.
the font on the monitor is literally titanfall's font, its just a little smoothed around the edges
Searing IPS glow is exactly why I returned one Asus TUF 27" monitor (don't recall the exact model) for a ROG XG32VC. While the VA panel takes some tuning to help with black levels smearing, it is a fraction of the cost of OLED and offers some great contrast. I personally love it.
Next monitor will be OLED, though. SO smooth, great color and contrast. WOW.
Bought an Alienware (AW3423DWF) oled monitor four months ago: it is quite perfect for me, although having to stop for 7 minutes every four hours so the monitor can do its anti-burn-ins thing, I wish there was another way to get that "perfection". I long hesitated to buy a mini-led monitor instead, the ips ones having the low contrast ratios, while the va ones having bad other things (can't remember what it was up the top of my head atm), I finally went with this monitor. As I play mainly arpg games, I don't need super high fps, so 165hz was quite alright.
ive considered buying an OLED tv honestly, tv prices are way less than monitors
Visual glitch at 6:28
IPS poor contrast was the reason I used VAs for so long, until I got my qd-oled, now its like I put the glasses from "They Live" on, and I can never go back.
Second comment, but you mentioned that you can still see the dimming zones. Personally, I held out on getting a MiniLED until I saw the monitor I have now (Cooler Master GP27FUS) with over 500 dimming zones @ 27" the zones are almost half the size as this Titan Army one (and its 4K 160hz 1450nits) they're pretty small and I LOVE the black levels on the display and since the zones are so small the halo effect isn't all that noticeable.
Though I heard about the upcoming REDMAGIC 27" 4K MiniLED which has 5088 dimming zones - me thinks this is the holy grail before OLED and probably my next monitor!
Happy New Year. Love the vids. 🙂
You should buy a mini LED VA panel, it fits the mini LED better.
4:02 - we’ve near identical Persian rug designs.
Were you & Ana both JETs in Japan?
Thanks for catering to my interests.
I’d love to see you compare an Xbox X to a comparable cost Mini PC (Ryzen/Radeon Graphics) to determine which is the Gameriest Solution.
I recently bought a second mini-LED monitor from a small brand. The first unit cost me about USD700, almost 1/6 the price compared to the Dell model with the same panel. Really appreciate the existence of these manufactures. XD
VA is much better than IPS for MiniLED. Wonder if that monitor comes with a VA panel too.
Dude I missed you!
100% Adobe RGB coverage and high refresh rates combined make Mini LED a bit of a Godsend to Graphic Designers who game 🎮
Previously, we've always had to choose one or the other
I have an LG with peak HDR brightness of 1500 nits. I had to get a service remote to disable the auto dimming BS...but after doing that it's been excellent. Had it for 2 years and no issues, no burn in. Just a great screen.
You are the one and only STRICTLY SERIOUS reviewer on YT, Dawid :D
What happened at 6:30
Would you try crazy mechnical keyboard designs?
happy New Year!!!!
I had this exact monitor, it is look good when gaming and i found no black light bleed problem but yes its is too damn bright
I have to adjust to 30% brightness and contrast to feel comfortable when not gaming
Is there a menu item for „Local Dimming“? That should be enabled, because only then the 284 dimming zones will work. In the scene with your measuring equipment, the whole screen was light up. That should not be the case with a MiniLED-screen. My LG MiniLED-TV has such a menu item and it changes the picture A LOT.
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that would be too bright for me bro! i thought it was also funny that your keyboard was having a stroke with the lights towards the end of the video! anyway love your content bro! 😃👍
im quite interested in mini led myself and i found a decent mini led monitor "AOC Q27G3XMN 27" for only 280$ us in amazon with mini led, 1000 nits brightness and a va panel. and for almost half the price i would like to see a comparison to these monitors
Same here. There is also the KTC M27T20. It has the same specs aside from a downgrade in 165hz but it has 576 dimming zones an upgrade from the AOC's 336 zones. Also nice that it has 90w USB C connection with a KVM built in for just $80 more than AOC. I want the better features but I am also torn about the weak 1 year warranty. One thing I do know is that KTC makes the monitors for Cooler Master line of mini LED monitors.
@@MrMega200I have the KTC and I’m very happy with it. Black smearing is not noticeable and vrr works well with local dimming after updating the firmware.
There are some reviews of that AOC, I've seen it on a rtings and some other website, it seems to be a very good monitor.
I'm also thinking about buying it in a month or two.
@@MrMega200 yeah my problem is that i live in europe and the aoc starts at 400€ and the ktc at 450€ so a little bit too much for my price point but i am waiting for a sale maybe if one of them dropped to 330€ or so i would consider buying them
@@MrMega200I just returned that KTC monitor the other day. Black smearing and lack of uniformity annoyed me too much.
the 1st gen qd-oleds already have insane peak brightness. 1000 nits in a small window, dimming as the overall screen gets brighter, but it's still plenty bright. i've had the alienware DWF for over a year and i don't keep it at max brightness cuz it gets squinting bright. night time scenes are breathtaking.
Hi Dawid, Viewer from New Zealand here, In Australia and New Zealand Titan Army is known name brand - it uses panels from reputable brands and they normally tell you whose panel is in which display. They are Discount brand selling very cheap monitors - the catch is they are normally B-Grade panels hence why they are so cheap! Normally PB Tech in NZ would sell Titan Army units but they appear to only have 1 unit left (could be a new years restocking issue)
Australian here, never heard of them
Happy new year my man
When I saw you going through the setup for Tarkov I was like "wtf man", but then I saw the snow...
Every Dawid video makes me feel like im on a tech spring break for the first time every time.
Great video Dawid, did you notice the thin bezel wasn't that thin, as you had a 5-7mm black edge all the way round! Have you tried to expand it to the edges?
Here in the South Pacific, Titan Army is a pretty common brand. We get a lot of the Chinesium brands for phones and TVs as well.
My question for you would be how is the HDR experience?
Obviously it won't compare to OLED but is it fake HDR, or is it actually half decent?
My guess is that it would be at least somewhat better than SDR due to the higher peak brightness.
Well there's a bunch of words I never expected to see together.
The VESA stand included with my sub-$300 LG feels sturdy enough to support my weight and I'm 245lb (110kg, 14St 7lb)
Great to see you’re back Dawid.
There’s a retailer in NZ that imports Titan army stuff. It’s generally Samsung panels that failed qc for some reason or another, but they are great value for money.
I would so love to get a miniLED monitor! The issue is that there aren’t that many options for ultrawides that doesn’t cost $2,000 and isn’t 49”.
The word in red on the box means: out of region, for them to identify parcel to send oversea.
I have a pg27aqdm, I bought it a couple of months ago, now it just sits and collects dust, since I don’t use it. It makes eyes very tired and strained, they become red, dry and you feel discomfort, and nothing can be done about it. Now I switched back to my old pg27uq, my eyes thanked me very much. Who wants to buy an OLED monitor for games, think about your eyesight, at least with the Asus PG27aqdm it is very straining on the eyes, so for games I think the best choice would be an IPS with a fald
That's a Dell standard monitor stand mount! Just about any Dell monitor from the past 15 or so years will snap right into it and vice versa meaning so you get a cheap Dell monitor stand that's got a heavier base and less wobble and/or more tilt, spin, and rotation you want. Neat, love it when 'eh just copy them' works out for the best!
Oh, are they back to making good monitor mounts? That's good to know; I have one from 2010 that's not even adjustable except you can tilt it slightly up and down, and I was afraid that might have become the norm.
@@stevethepocket I haven't bought anything super recent but the Y base stands are pretty stable and have rotate, height, tilt and side to side swivel.
Cable isn't just for China as Australia has the same pin layout as that shown.
Every video of yours just keeps getting better
Titan Army is not a "random ali express" brand which is why it's really decent. Titan Army have been in the game for ages and are a well renowned brand outside of North America. My local boutique sells them too who specialise in high end gear. I got some of their IPS monitors like over a decade ago as well from eBay. They're actually very good
Happy new year Dawid
I personally am patiently waiting for Mini-LED to have per pixels backlighting like you said in the video and i think that would be an end game monitor if i'm not mistaken.
That shipping price is insane. I just bought this exact monitor from a local retailer for 300 USD, and it was not a discount price. Strange that you didn't mention weird contrast stuff this monitor does with it's local dimming algorithms tho, using local dimming in windows or interface-heavy games makes some (not really) funny things with colors. Still damn good value for this price.
The box looks like Dawid had to get in a knife fight with the delivery driver to get the package. And the delivery driver was using the box as a shield
I think this is just a older version of the innocn monitors literally same design down to the minute details, probably came from the same factory. their current offerings ups the LEDs to 1152 zones (and available in 4k).
so basically, i'd go buy the innocn which has been plenty reviewed online and is fairly reputable as a decent but cheaper than competitor brand rather than some unknown brand off of aliexpress.
Why didn't you touch any of the response time settings?
I'm serious when I say that your videos make my day much better. Thanks
erm, I own a Titan Army ultra wide - its awesome. Maybe its the New Zealand market.
This is similar to the KTC M27T20. I tried it out, but returned it bc I was too annoyed by the smearing and lack of black uniformity. I should've known better bc I never liked VA panels.
I'm always curious about this monitor . locally you can find it here in Malaysia for around 386usd . thank you for making this video. btw they also make a 32" 4k version of this monitor for 780usd.
Now the question is, how much QC wiggle room these monitors have between good and bad samples? I suspect the answer is "yes".
there is no way to give an acceptable answer for you if you just suspect the answer is "yes"
Marking on the box, 外区 literally says “for foreign market”, hence the English calibration sheet and English OSD.
LOL you had me at "High End" and AliExpress.
5:21 - Looks like the top left corner might have another issue with local dimming going on.
The charger pin is for Australia not China, I think they shipped it with Australian plug because they didn't the Canadian plug or smt.
I have a 576 local dimming backlight and the only game that struggles is night time flying in flight simulator. That said I can choose medium or low local dimming setting to help out
Every monitor I owned now I turned the brightness way down, sometimes to only 40 or 30%. I like my retinas not get blown to bits :) Interesting comparisions in this video :)
I bought a Titan Army mornitor during 11-11 sales with $100+ coupons, monitor arrived undamaged within 2 weeks. It is way much better than my old AOC VA monitor although it is not fair to compare IPS to VA. My original plan was to buy Yeston Waifu GPU but it was way too expensive comparing to local non waifu GPU.
Oh, I'm so old...
Whenever the 'Holy Grails' of modern monitors are discussed I can't help thinking, "Funny, all that stuff was taken for granted with CRTs."
No, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm not a 'CRT gamer'. We collectively decided flat panels are better so the CRT died a death, but like all shifts in technology there is a price to be paid. I do however wonder if there might be a niche market for 'modern' CRTs..?
With the aid of technological developments I bet if somebody really tried a very flat and relatively light CRT in pretty well any aspect ratio would be possible...
...BITD a UK lunatic called Clive Sinclair (most famous for the ZX Spectrum, even though he really only wanted to make business machines) came up with a somewhat flat panel CRT for his portable TV.
ok boomer
I am using a titan army 144hz monitor since January 2021. It's doing pretty good so far.😊
U can try hisense gaming monitor with similar properties and mini led. Maybe u can try to compare with this? If u can get it
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look s like that is a really universal adapter, i would skip the sketchy wall adapter, and just use a new clover wall cable
i'm sure you can test displays in a sun lit room, to show why brightness is important
6:28 okay I'm really hoping that was the video and not my PC again.
Pretty sure it was the video :)
@@AnnaDoes haha, thank you, I've been having drivers issues on a fresh OS install and this triggered a moment of panic
@@Lyander25 haha fair enough. A Fresh OS often does that 🤣
@@AnnaDoes Glad for Dawid's channel showing how sometimes PC stuff is just cursed. If it's any possible, maybe a "how to set a PC up" video in the channel's usual style might be fun!
The comparison with a regular ips would help, could you also check if the mini led backlight would improve a va panel?
I have one, the AOC Q27G3XMN. It has only 336 dimming zones but honestly it works really well. I keep local dimming on a majority of the time and the blacks are very, very deep. It also gets very bright.
This was exactly my experience buying the ktc m27p20 pro. it is a decent monitor as well
Feels good to be really early.
I wonder when Dawid is going to do a "$250 gaming PC" using one of those cheap CPU/RAM/Motherboard combos from AliExpress. That seems like something he would try.
when the tarky wipe happens and you gotta do a monitor review
Dawid, this installment was not up (down?) to your usual standard of stupidity! Love it! :)