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Taig CNC Mill, 15 years of changes, 2005 vs 2019.
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2020
- Comparison video of a Taig CNC ready mill purchased in 2005 and one purchased in 2019.
Lots of changes, some small, some major.
Some of the major ones are:
-New spindle taper
-New Y Carraige
-Ballscrews
-New motor
Some of the minor changes:
-Added chip guards for Z
-More screws on Z carriage
-No graduations on hand wheels
-etc.
Thanks
Taig has made an additional improvement to the painted blue steel tube base. The front welded angle piece is replaced with a much more solid square piece that is welded. A much more solid setup. Taig continuously improves their equipment. They really knocked one out of the ball park with the 5C headstock. I have one installed on my lathe and mill. It is totally sweet.
Yes, true. Lots of differences! I wish they would redo the column attachment to the base.
Thanks for video!
With Taig's modification to feet on the base, they have also improved the attachment of the base to the column. They no longer use the long 1/2-13 all thread. There is now a welded steel piece in the base. This is very secure and the all thread is now much shorter. I have recently assembled my own version of their new manual chucker. I have increased the swing diameter, my spindle block and the base are bolted to a 3/4 aluminum plate. I wish I had the new Taig standard manual chucker next to my version so that I could compare performance. I am using a DC motor on my machine.
When did you buy yours? I actually took this entire machine apart and drew all the parts in CAD. It has the all-thread going all the way through everything, the same as the design from 15 years ago.
I bought the 5C headstock and the 15 3/4 X-Y axis around 8-15-2020. I was thrilled to see that Taig corrected the two biggest weaknesses of the base unit. The reason was that I was planning on bolting it to a 3/4 aluminum plate. The headstock base and the mill base are bolted together as well as to the plate.
@@johnwalters6800 That's great! Are you on the Taig FB group? If so, maybe share pictures there of the new design?
Give me some pointers on how to join the Taig FB group and I will be glad to share photos. I have built many new accessories for my new chucker and have many more planned.
@@johnwalters6800 Try this link, and I think there will be a few simple questions to answer before approved. Let me know if any issues. facebook.com/groups/Taig.Lathe.And.Mill.Group/about
I found another difference. The Z leadscrew is longer. On the ballscrew version, it goes to the bottom of the Z ways. On the leadscrew version, it is about 1.5" above the bottom of the Z ways. Unsure if this translates to more actual Z travel, as the ballnut on the ballscrew machine is longer than the Z nut on the leadscrew version machine.
The base is also different, no angle brackets on new one for rear mount.
Good eye. I completely missed that.
Hey Nick, you got me that much closer to going CNC. If I'm new to this, do you think the touted ease-of-use of Pathpilot and reputation of Tormach is worth the extra 5000 bucks to spend? Or does the interface not matter much if you use something like Fusion 360 to create G-code for you and send it to Mach? I'd like to be CNCing steel knives and want to make sure I have something reliable and sturdy enough.
Hi, the Taig is not good enough IMO without heavy mods. And by the time you make them, you'll be a few thousand more into it than the base price of the taig, and close to the price of a better machine. If you have the space for a bigger machine, I'd skip the Taig entirely. You'll be way ahead after a year, IMO. And if you do get the next step up, make sure it has a tool changer. That's the difference between running the machine unattended, and having to babysit it.
As far as the interface, they are all similar. If you figure out one, you can figure out the others. The main thing is the machine itself. Its size, its travels, tool changer vs no tool changer.
@@nickp4793 You're a legend, thank you my friend. This makes a lot of sense. It looks like I'll be going Tormach.
Hi Nick, I want to replace my motor with a Consew like yours. Can you let me have details of the pulleys and belt you use please? Specifically what type of belt, i.e., tooth pitch and width. Many thanks. Also need details of how you installed the potentiometer instead of the hall effect speed control, I'm assuming it's a straightforward swap with 0V one end of the pot and the controller 5V to the other end - and the wiper goes to the controller input? Many thanks.😎
Hi, are you on FB? There is a Taig group on it where I have all those details. I can link you the post if you are on it. Its a private group you would have to join to see the post.
See my other video linked here. I show the pulleys more, and in one of the comments I have a link for the FB post. ruclips.net/video/Q7FnS_Me8cc/видео.html
Hi Nick! Thank you for the video! I have the chance to buy one TAIG here in Brazil with a very good price. Leadscrew version. By the pictures, I noticed that the XY saddle is Aluminum cast made (like Old model), but the seller said he bouhgt it in 2019 as new. Is still a good option even with aluminum cast saddle? The machine looks great. Thanks
Hi, are you sure he is not confusing the model number with the year? Taig has 2 model numbers for the leadscrew machines. One is 2018, one is 2019. They are the same, except the 2019 has a longer bed, and thus more X travel. Both models have been out since at least 2005 or so, and are still sold today. I think the switch from the cast Y to the extruded aluminum Y happened around 2010 or so, so I'm surprised. Maybe there was older stock in Brazil? To answer your question though, I didn't really notice any performance differences between the cast and extruded version.
@@nickp4793 Thank you Very Much, Nick! This kind of machine are very rare (TAIG, Sherline) since there is no stores selling them new here in Brazil. Always second hand machines. Most of cases people who went to USA and brought them in suit cases or import paying prohibitive shipping prices and extorsive taxes (60% over price + shipping). The market here is flooded with Chinese machines. Even being aluminum cast version, I will take it and it will join my Sherline collection. Thank you very much again! Mery Xmas!
@@motacosta123 you’re very welcome and merry Xmas to you too. Ps, I have a video I think it’s called free Taig frame modification or similar. You can make the working envelope of the Taig much better by moving some parts around. The Taig in stock form you will hit the Z leadscrew with the vise often. There is also a mod (I haven’t done) you can gain about 1” of Y travel with a simple spacer. It only works on the leadscrew not the ballscrew machine, that’s why I didn’t do it.
@@nickp4793 I just subscribe your channel. I will check all your stuff. Great material! Thank you very much again! Best regards from Brazil. Gabriel
@@motacosta123 The later videos got better. Making a youtube video is a pain in the butt:)