What a great way to turn a bug into something amazing. Who knows, maybe we will find in the future that there are more types of these unique objects in our universe and it turns out that these weird star-in-star objects are actually possible with a bunch more different types of stars?
Sorry to be so off topic but does anyone know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly forgot my login password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me!
@Kyng Joe thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
You always manage to make these videos super interesting and easy to understand, I love how you take quirks of the game and expand on those ideas. Kudos to Dr Emily Levesque as well, really good interview between you guys. Keep up the fantastic work.
Mars, for real you should do stuff like this more often. I dropped outta high school cuz i never thought I'd be able to understand stuff like this. But everything just clicks when you put it this way. Keep it up, bro. This is awesome.
Thanks man! Yeah we got a bunch of these in our science and NASA playlists. Have you watched those ones? Yeah school is a bit harsh on the sciences. Mostly because I don’t think they know what they are talking about and in turn make it so dense that no one understands how wonderful science is. Luckily we had some folks in our lives that made space and science fun.
Thanks man! Yeah we got a bunch of these in our science and NASA playlists. Have you watched those ones? Yeah school is a bit harsh on the sciences. Mostly because I don’t think they know what they are talking about and in turn make it so dense that no one understands how wonderful science is. Luckily we had some folks in our lives that made space and science fun.
Great video, again ;) I was so captived by the subject that I forgot i was watching Ghost Giraffe, but your humor did put everything into prospective ( love it )
My head hurts at the concept. Biggest question I have is: what is preventing that neutron star from collapsing into a black hole? Surely there's enough mass for it to run into to break the degeneracy pressure of neutronium.
Alright so, according to Thorne & Zytkow's original publication, the neutron star and the inner layers of the giant are seperated by a thin (40 meters/130 feet) layer called "halo", which basically acts as "canopy" - energy created in and close to the halo acts as outward-facing radiation pressure, keeping most of the giant's matter away from the neutron star. In their initial model, the accretion rate of matter through the halo and onto the NS is only about 10^-8 solar masses per year, so even if the neutron star were only 0.1 solar masses away from the TOV-threshold (the mass at which a NS collapses into a black hole) it wouldn't actually reach it for another 10 million years - ten times higher than the estimated lifespan of TZOs, before their enevelope dissipates, forms an accretion disk, is accreted properly onto the neutron star and turns into a black hole. If the process would make the neutron star so massive to be only some tiny fraction of a solar mass away from the TOV threshold, chances are it would simply reach that during the migration into the supergiant and the Thorne-Zytkow-Object would collapse into a black hole before it ever truly formed.
@@backslash153 Thank you for sharing this information, I was so frustrated when I watched through the whole video and he didn't ask this specific question
Playing Elite and getting to take a look at the planetary science section of AGU back in December really makes me want to go back and study astronomy. I was intimidated feeling like I needed a PhD to go anywhere in the field, but the universe is always giving us glimpses of things that are unimaginable. I love my field, but space seems to always be calling me.
That would be pretty cool in my opinion, even cooler than fixing the bug alltogether. And i think its more doable, probably the algorithm that created the galaxy remembers specific spots and relation to other spots where objects are, but objects itself on that spots are separately placed ( like changing the texture on something ). Just guessing basically, on the basis how i would do it if i was writing code for something akin to stellar forge from elite ( distances are important but type of object is not because neighbouring stars dont interact with eachother ), but i hope its something along those lines..XD Then again if everything is procedurally generated with some base guidelines and they dont have a way in the code to "select" a given object to change its type ( as star in this case ) but everything is just "as is" as stellar forge spat it out.. then nothing cant be done appart from running the simulation again and then you get somethign completely different.
Just rewatched the whole space tourist series 2day then a new video pops up a few hours later :) mars keep up the gd work you made ed that bit more entertaining for me o7
Oh shit I remember hunting for those types of stars in game a couple years ago going off known candidate lists. I'm glad to see you made an informative video about them.
How cool to get educated through Ghost Giraffe. For all the Dutch people who want to understand the basics of the galaxy and stars: Get the audiobook from Govert Schilling - Evoluerend Heelal - Een hoorcollege over de levensloop van de kosmos. Also big credit for Dr. Emily Levesque to be willing to educate us.
@@GhostGiraffe I would like to encourage You on making a video about CME's. Alfven radiation to be exact. I can't do it myself since i don't have your editing skills...
This is so cool! Both that these totally interesting systems exist, and also that your vid covers the topic so well with such amazing help from an expert scientist!
I've always been fascinated by looking into the stars and just pondering the mysteries out there was what drew me to Elite and Exploration! Thanks for making/recommending these awesome and informative videos!
Really well-made, and kudos for reaching out to subject-matter experts. If I didn't know better, if say this is either a university assignment or a professional short documentary!
@@GhostGiraffe out of curiosity, what are your plans for the next upload? Approaching 6 months of inactivity so just curious seeing as [redacted] has been putting a damper on the world. Don't spoil anything if you don't have to!
Should note that Epimetheus and Janus are not running into eachother, they share a co-orbital condition. They essentially alternate a lower and higher orbit, trading places over time. It forms a bit of a horseshoe pattern. Other than that, very cool glitch/science stuff!
Jump to Yamur then select HIP 24020 from the nav list. HIP 24019 & 20 are two completely different systems. HIP 24019 appears to be around 65k ls away and can be jumped to from 20. There are bodies in 20 that are supposedly further out than 19.
I love it when StellarForge replicates real life events like this, even though it hasn't been programmed to do things like stars within stars and orbit-swapping moons :D I think it shows Elite's galaxy's scientific accuracy!
Never heard of such a thing before. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but Neutron Stars are definitely my favourite. Millisecond Pulsars and Magnetars are my favourites, but these sound incredible!
This video has some pretty interesting things but what baffles me most is that they appearantly conducted a spectrum scan of a star in ANOTHER GALAXY?? Just how would you pinpoint your spectrometer to an individual star THAT far away??
It's really interesting to think that "bugs" in Elite may not actually be bugs at all. Wouldn't it be great if something new was discovered because of one of these bugs? That would be both funny and really cool
A guest star inside a star RUclips channel
Hahahaha
What a great way to turn a bug into something amazing. Who knows, maybe we will find in the future that there are more types of these unique objects in our universe and it turns out that these weird star-in-star objects are actually possible with a bunch more different types of stars?
Sci-fi has gotten to the point where things are so close to real life that it's almost life imitating art.
Damn, This is pretty cool. Great way to get information across
Thanks! We thought so too. We hope folks outside of Elite enjoy it too =D
@@GhostGiraffe did u use a game to demonstrate?
Sorry to be so off topic but does anyone know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot my login password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me!
@Westin Trace Instablaster =)
@Kyng Joe thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I can’t believe you got in touch with the splendid Doctor herself! :). By coincidence I just watched one of her public lectures today :D.
Yeah she’s super cool to talk to and we were so lucky to have her on the video!
Stars within stars.. It's the most incredible thing I've ever heard in years.
It’s so crazy!
one can even say light years
Yo dawg, i heard you like astronomy?
So we put a star in yo star....
Wouldn’t it be cool if Frontier added this as part of the audio logs? All the information from numerous astronomers and physicists?
You always manage to make these videos super interesting and easy to understand, I love how you take quirks of the game and expand on those ideas. Kudos to Dr Emily Levesque as well, really good interview between you guys. Keep up the fantastic work.
Thanks a lot! Always glad to see a comment from you =D Yeah She was awesome. Very down to Earth genius!
@@GhostGiraffe Down to earth. I see what u did there.. 😁
Some truths are far stranger than any fiction. Really like the direction this potential series could go. Well played Ghost.
Thank you very much ;)
Great stuff! A weird natural phenomenon indeed, and brilliantly explained by both yourself and the good doctor =)
Thank you very much!
I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
;)
Confess!
nobody does.. now poke him with the soft cushions!
Bro, *nobody* expects the Spanish Inquisition. XD
I love hearing Dr. Emily Levesque's passion for the topic in her voice and the way she explains things.
Mars, for real you should do stuff like this more often. I dropped outta high school cuz i never thought I'd be able to understand stuff like this. But everything just clicks when you put it this way. Keep it up, bro. This is awesome.
Thanks man! Yeah we got a bunch of these in our science and NASA playlists. Have you watched those ones?
Yeah school is a bit harsh on the sciences. Mostly because I don’t think they know what they are talking about and in turn make it so dense that no one understands how wonderful science is. Luckily we had some folks in our lives that made space and science fun.
Thanks man! Yeah we got a bunch of these in our science and NASA playlists. Have you watched those ones?
Yeah school is a bit harsh on the sciences. Mostly because I don’t think they know what they are talking about and in turn make it so dense that no one understands how wonderful science is. Luckily we had some folks in our lives that made space and science fun.
Great video, again ;)
I was so captived by the subject that I forgot i was watching Ghost Giraffe, but your humor did put everything into prospective ( love it )
Haha thanks! I hope we always keep that humor in. It's what makes it fun to do =D
My head hurts at the concept. Biggest question I have is: what is preventing that neutron star from collapsing into a black hole? Surely there's enough mass for it to run into to break the degeneracy pressure of neutronium.
Alright so, according to Thorne & Zytkow's original publication, the neutron star and the inner layers of the giant are seperated by a thin (40 meters/130 feet) layer called "halo", which basically acts as "canopy" - energy created in and close to the halo acts as outward-facing radiation pressure, keeping most of the giant's matter away from the neutron star. In their initial model, the accretion rate of matter through the halo and onto the NS is only about 10^-8 solar masses per year, so even if the neutron star were only 0.1 solar masses away from the TOV-threshold (the mass at which a NS collapses into a black hole) it wouldn't actually reach it for another 10 million years - ten times higher than the estimated lifespan of TZOs, before their enevelope dissipates, forms an accretion disk, is accreted properly onto the neutron star and turns into a black hole.
If the process would make the neutron star so massive to be only some tiny fraction of a solar mass away from the TOV threshold, chances are it would simply reach that during the migration into the supergiant and the Thorne-Zytkow-Object would collapse into a black hole before it ever truly formed.
@@backslash153 thanks for that information!
@@backslash153 Thank you for sharing this information, I was so frustrated when I watched through the whole video and he didn't ask this specific question
Playing Elite and getting to take a look at the planetary science section of AGU back in December really makes me want to go back and study astronomy. I was intimidated feeling like I needed a PhD to go anywhere in the field, but the universe is always giving us glimpses of things that are unimaginable. I love my field, but space seems to always be calling me.
Never thought I would learn how stars work but here we are.
Wish I learned this back in high school.
I wonder, if they cant separate the stars if they can instead change the star types so that they can be scientifically correct
That would be pretty cool in my opinion, even cooler than fixing the bug alltogether. And i think its more doable, probably the algorithm that created the galaxy remembers specific spots and relation to other spots where objects are, but objects itself on that spots are separately placed ( like changing the texture on something ). Just guessing basically, on the basis how i would do it if i was writing code for something akin to stellar forge from elite ( distances are important but type of object is not because neighbouring stars dont interact with eachother ), but i hope its something along those lines..XD
Then again if everything is procedurally generated with some base guidelines and they dont have a way in the code to "select" a given object to change its type ( as star in this case ) but everything is just "as is" as stellar forge spat it out.. then nothing cant be done appart from running the simulation again and then you get somethign completely different.
Just rewatched the whole space tourist series 2day then a new video pops up a few hours later :) mars keep up the gd work you made ed that bit more entertaining for me o7
Man that just made my day!
This is super interesting! I love it!
Thanks pal! Glad you liked it. Feel free to share it with folks who are interested in science stuff =D
7:11 killed me, i wasnt expecting that
Nobody was
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Also, superb use of the word "plop"!
Thank you! :)
Watched all the ads so I hope you guys get paid.
That’s super nice! Thanks a bunch!
What an accomplished woman. It's incredible. Mixing gaming and real life prospects is amazing.
Oh shit I remember hunting for those types of stars in game a couple years ago going off known candidate lists. I'm glad to see you made an informative video about them.
I miss you dude!
Edit: it's been a lot of fun to watch all your stuff again. Your ED tips actually helped a lot back when I just started the game.
Miss you too! Just been a crazy time recently. Thanks so much for watching our videos again! :)
How cool to get educated through Ghost Giraffe. For all the Dutch people who want to understand the basics of the galaxy and stars: Get the audiobook from Govert Schilling - Evoluerend Heelal - Een hoorcollege over de levensloop van de kosmos. Also big credit for Dr. Emily Levesque to be willing to educate us.
Thanks! Also what a cool language. Wish I could speak it.
interesting video you guys! looking forward to the next one
Thanks a bunch! Yeah us too!
Wow! Thats amazing! Great way to connect those two things in the game. Great stuff man.
Thanks so much!
Wow.
Mind = blown! I'd never even imagined such a thing; that's incredible! Thanks guys for showing us this!
No problem pal!
I think it's pretty awesome that they are here to stay
This was fantastic content! I really hope you keep producing more science/informational topics, especially about their overaly with Elite. :D
Thanks! Yeah we’ve made some really good ones in the past too. Hope you like them :)
The more i stick around the channel the more i start to appreciate this game, damn i feel great for getting this game
Hahha so happy to hear that! It’s pretty fun man.
Dude. Great video. I am super impressed by the work that went into this, specifically the interview and the science research. Keep doing these.
Thanks so much! Will do
Possibly one of the most amazing videos I’ve seen in a while.
Thanks pal!
Thank You Dr. Emily Levesque !!!!!!!!!!
She’s the best!
Awesome video man . Never new this was a real thing . Will the tourism series ever come back 👀
Nice meme, good and interesting interview, well made sir. Keep up the great work.
Thanks! Glad someone liked that meme
The inquisition approves this.
@@GhostGiraffe I would like to encourage You on making a video about CME's. Alfven radiation to be exact. I can't do it myself since i don't have your editing skills...
7:11 gonna add that to my folder of science memes nobody will get
I’ll be so proud to see that randomly on the inter webs one day
This is so cool! Both that these totally interesting systems exist, and also that your vid covers the topic so well with such amazing help from an expert scientist!
I've always been fascinated by looking into the stars and just pondering the mysteries out there was what drew me to Elite and Exploration! Thanks for making/recommending these awesome and informative videos!
Very happy to read this. Thanks for watching :)
Wow, omg, this just adds so much to Elite. This is an awesome video. Thank you so much for this info.
No probs! Thanks so much for the comment:)
Really well-made, and kudos for reaching out to subject-matter experts. If I didn't know better, if say this is either a university assignment or a professional short documentary!
lol thanks!
@@GhostGiraffe out of curiosity, what are your plans for the next upload? Approaching 6 months of inactivity so just curious seeing as [redacted] has been putting a damper on the world. Don't spoil anything if you don't have to!
Very awesome video man, haven't watched your stuff for a little while but I sure am glad I did
So are we :) thanks
Such a fantastic topic and video! I love the comparison between IRL and Elite's Galaxy.
So glad you enjoyed it :)
Should note that Epimetheus and Janus are not running into eachother, they share a co-orbital condition. They essentially alternate a lower and higher orbit, trading places over time. It forms a bit of a horseshoe pattern. Other than that, very cool glitch/science stuff!
That’s exactly right! We go into detail of it all in that video :)
That's really friggin' cool. Thanks guys!
No problem! We love making videos like this. Hope you'll love what we have coming up =D
Wow, thank you for putting that together, I love getting awesome astronomy facts. More of this please.
You got it!
Gonna check out The Last Stargazers too, I know someone who will really enjoy a book like that!
very interesting and fascinating, thank you for the content Ghost Giraffe and Dr. Levesque
Thanks so much for watching! Really appreciate it :)
Great to see another vid from you! Fantastic subject, love the way stellar forge can predict some phenomena!
Well, that was fabulous. Thoroughly enjoyable, thank you so much! And the book looks good too.. will look out for it.
Thanks so much for watching :)
Jump to Yamur then select HIP 24020 from the nav list. HIP 24019 & 20 are two completely different systems. HIP 24019 appears to be around 65k ls away and can be jumped to from 20. There are bodies in 20 that are supposedly further out than 19.
Love this! Very educational and fun, love you guys’ style XD
Thank you! So happy you enjoy our style of videos. :)
I learned quite a few things today. Thanks VERY much for this.
Very happy to hear that!
I need to finish my exploraconda and go out ASAP. This is so cool! Thank you so much for this video and great interview.
Thanks! It's a bigger world out there ;)
Awesome video sir, I learned some thing new today. :D
Now because of you saying "A Star Within a Star" i need to go watch Sunshine now.
Ha!
Her voice sounds like Catherine’s voice in SOMA, love that :)
Kinda miss your uploading, hope you get over this lockdown.
Yeah we miss making videos too. Just too busy at home these days to make stuff that’s really cool online. Thanks for the message
I love it when StellarForge replicates real life events like this, even though it hasn't been programmed to do things like stars within stars and orbit-swapping moons :D I think it shows Elite's galaxy's scientific accuracy!
& I always thought video killed the neutron star. You guys over at Ghost Giraffe sure got some good book-learnin'!
:)
Very great and informative video!! keep up the good work!!
What is that calm piano music? :)
Never heard of such a thing before. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but Neutron Stars are definitely my favourite. Millisecond Pulsars and Magnetars are my favourites, but these sound incredible!
Yes those are really cool too :)
Darn you I learned something on my holiday and ...... I ...... I ....... I liked it. Thank you
Hehehe glad it “helped”? Thanks man for the comment XD
man, this is just the best! awesome info and really interesting ideas, good video!
Thanks friend!
Very nice video, keep up the good work!
Will do thanks!!
Fantastic video. Thank you for putting this together. It was entertaining as well as super informative.
Very happy to hear that! Thanks for the kind comment :)
Very informative as well as interesting, great video, thanks!
Thank you so much
This is wild. never heard of these before!
I wish you folks came back with more videos like this one that blended game facts with real astronomy
We will! Thanks for the comment and we’re happy you like this style because it’s our favorite format.
Indeed, strange stars are awesome. Infinite diversity in infinite combinations...
Just stumbled on your channel, hoping for more future vids!
Thanks for watching! Yes pls Ning for more
That should read “planning for More” lol
@@GhostGiraffe Glad to hear it! I learn a little, laugh a little, it's an all around good time!
Awesome content! I hope to see more like this. Very interesting! :D
You bet!
This video has some pretty interesting things but what baffles me most is that they appearantly conducted a spectrum scan of a star in ANOTHER GALAXY?? Just how would you pinpoint your spectrometer to an individual star THAT far away??
I crave more Ghoff Giffaffe. Do a video on Betelgeuse and the whole cold spots / supernova thing!!!
Nice idea!
This has taught me more in 10 mins than school has in 10 years
Sending you love for making this
Thanks so much!! Yay love!
This was a lot easier to learn than stuff from PBS Space Time lol
It's really interesting to think that "bugs" in Elite may not actually be bugs at all. Wouldn't it be great if something new was discovered because of one of these bugs? That would be both funny and really cool
Totally:)
This is absolutely fascinating
Glad it came across well =D
Whoah.....a bug...that isnt really a bug, while at the same time being a bug....this game is more and more like real life the more i learn about it!
Great video, very informative
Wow... Elite really blew my mind... THIS IS SOOOO COOL!!!
So happy to hear! Thanks for watching
When i saw the title my mind went immediately to: Yo dawg i heard you like stars
Your opening line was awesome 👌
today, i learned something awesome. thanks guys!
Always happy to help =D
Wow! This was great man.
Thanks a bunch! Very happy you liked that
@@GhostGiraffe very well done guys
Sweet infotainment! Neatly illustrated!
Thank you!
Hahaha... love the Nobody expects the... and the silly music!
That was a fascinating video. As entertaining to watch as Space tourism episodes, as informative as an episode of Carl Sagan A+++++ ;-)
Yay thanks!!
Very insightful, thanks for contributing to the actual astronomical knowledge of Elite players
Thanks so much for watching! Feel free to share it or post it where you think people will enjoy =D
I came because of your delightful and hilarious space-comedies... I didn't expect to get an education! Hah! Thanks! MORE SPACE COMEDIES PLEEEEASE!
Haha thanks man! More video to come
Well, that is very interesting. Great interview and editing.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed that :)
Very interesting video! ✨
Thanks for sharing :)
Just wow. Amazing video! ❤
tl;dr: a big red boy that can handle the _neutron style_
I love this video! indeed a very cool way to get some cool information across!
Thanks! We thought so too. It’s a great game to explain stuff like this :)
@@GhostGiraffe yeah totally, and I also learned that elite is a representation of the milky way. I thought it was procedurally generated
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks.
Thanks so much for watching!
@@GhostGiraffe It made staying up rather late here in Scotland worthwhile 👍
*Ghost giraffe why aren't you posting new videoes*
Real world work getting in the way of all of us here at Ghost Giraffe getti together online BUT we have lots planned for the next few videos :)
@@GhostGiraffe sure man, but don't forget to make videos and the game don't have much content creator So take your time but don't forget us 🤝
Wow! What a great video. Super interesting. Thank you.
Holy Zyt!! That's fascinating.
Haha thanks!
I thought it was a glitch.... Then I was like, "Oh, it is a glitch, but in real life"