got some ideas for the next episode! valkyr vs voruna: cats vs dogs hildryn vs lavos: who's the better energy-less frame gara vs citrine: glass vs shiny rocks zephyr vs garuda: who's the better 🅱ir🅱 vauban vs protea: who's the better engineer oberon vs titania: who's the better druid nekros vs sevagoth: who's got more EDGE frost vs ember: cold vs heat inaros vs nidus: who's the better health tank banshee vs octavia: who can make my ears bleed first
Hildryn vs. Jade. Flying frames. Wukong vs. Nezha. Chinese mythology frames. Rhino vs. Revenant. Invincible frames. Protea vs. Vauban. Tech frames. Hydroid vs. Yareli. Water frames. Trinity vs. Wisp/Citrine. Team healing frames (do this after 99 update). Nekros vs. Garuda. Death-obsessed frames. Inaros vs. Nidus. Health only frames.
Ash really needs a rework. He's still useful but his kit feels extremely outdated. His ultimate is slow and clunky to use, his shurikens are useless outside of the augment and even THEN, we have way better armor strip options. And his 3 .... uh..
As an ash main i knew Ash was going to lose this but i really appreciate your point of view. I like to think of ash as a whatever means necessary assassin. I have 5 different ash’s built all with different helminth builds and he is insanely versatile as a helminth frame.
two really great frames. Ash is really comfy, kullervo hits like a truck. Frankly I really would like DE to make at least 1 unique mod slot for warframe augments, it would really open up the possibility to make older frames match up with the newer frames, along with kit reworks. Really great vid btw.
I feel like Kullervo is going to win before I finish the video. Kully was one of my first frames and I immediately recognized that his 3 is INSANE. He does hit like a truck and is very fun. I just got my hands on Ash Prime and have been making several configs, and I think NOW, he is my favorite between the two. Maybe for the recency factor of experiencing his unique kit for the first time. But I have really been having a blast with Ash in void cascade, just sneaking around doing silly stuff with xatas or silence. Both lovely frames.
Ash really felt way more powerful when the game was slower and a dagger could kill anything with one finisher. But he is still enjoyable. His 4 needs to be reworked again, maybe make his 3 useful too. lr4 former ash main, playing dante now most of the time, love the book wizard.
I`m late to see this video so I hope you will see this. My favourite warframe is Ash however Kullervo dose what Ash does better and not just him Excalibur, Voruna, Stalker and Styanax does something that Ash can do and does it better, ontop of that Ash has a lot of issues people don`t know or refuse to know about. All these frames show that Ash has issues and needs a revisit. I say Ash needs a revisit and ppl say "he`s perfect" and get upset with me but he`s not, Ash has issues most ppl don`t know about. The reason being because; · People use two of his augments and helminth 24/7 to the point where they completely ignore the issues of the abilities and act like they are ok. · The way people use him and talk about him ("oh he can use seeking shuriken to strip armour and can kill lvl 100+ with bs) they can`t see his issues in a general sense. Look at it this way you have Ash - warframe and you have Ryu - ninja gaiden, if you put Ash in ninja gaiden he would be great probably be even better than Ryu on the other hand if you put Ryu in warframe he will have trouble in that setting. I was playing Ash and their is something I realised... Ash can`t deal with hordes of enemies efficiently that`s why most ppl won`t play him. The most effective (fun) way to play him is to play stealthy, he can actually be fun if you play him this way. but wf is a for the most part a horde game and Ash just can`t deal with them so this and other issues with him he needs a revisit. I will make a post about Ash on the warframe forums, if I remember I'll put it on here for you to take a look.
every weapon should use melee elementelist, rifle elementalist etc since it has better stats than ashes passive, and its only addative damage on ash. so any weapon kullervo is using will be better than ash because of this mod plus kullervos 3
Man i love ash but this really highlights just how much his kit needs touching, i dont think it needs a full blown rework but, the sheer level of power modern frames come out with make his augments look like bandaids i really dont see an argument to leave any of them out of his base abilities except maybe smoke shadow because 150% crit chance for pressing 2 is pretty crazy although kullervo existing does counter that point a little. shuriken is worthless on its own, teleport is so limited as is and as you said is just a much worse version of kullervos 1, and bladestorm is a mess even with how strong it can be. I think overall he's aged fairly well but having to sacrifice up to 3 mod slots to give his abilities things that have become basic and outclassed features shows just how old he really is. I just want my boy to be allowed to ball.
got some ideas for the next episode!
valkyr vs voruna: cats vs dogs
hildryn vs lavos: who's the better energy-less frame
gara vs citrine: glass vs shiny rocks
zephyr vs garuda: who's the better 🅱ir🅱
vauban vs protea: who's the better engineer
oberon vs titania: who's the better druid
nekros vs sevagoth: who's got more EDGE
frost vs ember: cold vs heat
inaros vs nidus: who's the better health tank
banshee vs octavia: who can make my ears bleed first
Hildryn vs. Jade. Flying frames.
Wukong vs. Nezha. Chinese mythology frames.
Rhino vs. Revenant. Invincible frames.
Protea vs. Vauban. Tech frames.
Hydroid vs. Yareli. Water frames.
Trinity vs. Wisp/Citrine. Team healing frames (do this after 99 update).
Nekros vs. Garuda. Death-obsessed frames.
Inaros vs. Nidus. Health only frames.
Ash really needs a rework. He's still useful but his kit feels extremely outdated.
His ultimate is slow and clunky to use, his shurikens are useless outside of the augment and even THEN, we have way better armor strip options. And his 3 .... uh..
As an ash main i knew Ash was going to lose this but i really appreciate your point of view. I like to think of ash as a whatever means necessary assassin. I have 5 different ash’s built all with different helminth builds and he is insanely versatile as a helminth frame.
Care to share those builds? Been banging my head against the wall trying to make a fresh ash build
Voruna...the answer is the furry wolfie --- VORUNA.
real asf
Real
I wish-she’s more of a Status Nuke frame atp :/
@@GreenSlime55 Wdym lol....slap on wrathful and she literally is a dmg cap melee frame.
@@nolannorth427but .. but then she ‘ s literally taking the ability from a melee frame to become one .
two really great frames. Ash is really comfy, kullervo hits like a truck. Frankly I really would like DE to make at least 1 unique mod slot for warframe augments, it would really open up the possibility to make older frames match up with the newer frames, along with kit reworks. Really great vid btw.
Another mod adapter has appeared 😭
Adding another slot dedicated to augments wouldn't do what you're saying it would do.
Really wanna see Caliban vs Revenant!
I feel like Kullervo is going to win before I finish the video.
Kully was one of my first frames and I immediately recognized that his 3 is INSANE. He does hit like a truck and is very fun. I just got my hands on Ash Prime and have been making several configs, and I think NOW, he is my favorite between the two. Maybe for the recency factor of experiencing his unique kit for the first time.
But I have really been having a blast with Ash in void cascade, just sneaking around doing silly stuff with xatas or silence. Both lovely frames.
babe wake up, new GuapFrame video just dropped!
I just turned ash into minato and replaced his 3rd with wrathful advance.
Don't even need to watch to know its Kullervo, poor Ash has fallen off hard.😂
Ash really felt way more powerful when the game was slower and a dagger could kill anything with one finisher. But he is still enjoyable. His 4 needs to be reworked again, maybe make his 3 useful too. lr4 former ash main, playing dante now most of the time, love the book wizard.
Next video ( most versitile character in the game vs )
I`m late to see this video so I hope you will see this.
My favourite warframe is Ash however Kullervo dose what Ash does better and not just him Excalibur, Voruna, Stalker and Styanax does something that Ash can do and does it better, ontop of that Ash has a lot of issues people don`t know or refuse to know about.
All these frames show that Ash has issues and needs a revisit.
I say Ash needs a revisit and ppl say "he`s perfect" and get upset with me but he`s not, Ash has issues most ppl don`t know about.
The reason being because;
· People use two of his augments and helminth 24/7 to the point where they completely ignore the issues of the abilities and act like they are ok.
· The way people use him and talk about him ("oh he can use seeking shuriken to strip armour and can kill lvl 100+ with bs) they can`t see his issues in a general sense.
Look at it this way you have Ash - warframe and you have Ryu - ninja gaiden, if you put Ash in ninja gaiden he would be great probably be even better than Ryu on the other hand if you put Ryu in warframe he will have trouble in that setting.
I was playing Ash and their is something I realised...
Ash can`t deal with hordes of enemies efficiently that`s why most ppl won`t play him. The most effective (fun) way to play him is to play stealthy, he can actually be fun if you play him this way. but wf is a for the most part a horde game and Ash just can`t deal with them so this and other issues with him he needs a revisit.
I will make a post about Ash on the warframe forums, if I remember I'll put it on here for you to take a look.
hate how they ruined Ash's bladestorm animations when you teleport into enemies marked with bladestorm
Pls do nezha vs rhino in the next video
every weapon should use melee elementelist, rifle elementalist etc since it has better stats than ashes passive, and its only addative damage on ash. so any weapon kullervo is using will be better than ash because of this mod plus kullervos 3
It annoying no one mentions ash doesn’t work with bosses and kullevoro does
Kullervo is my main YOU HAVE SUMMONED ME(its Kullervo)
Obviously it’s Excalibur
Citrine and wisp. Better support?
wisp
Man i love ash but this really highlights just how much his kit needs touching, i dont think it needs a full blown rework but, the sheer level of power modern frames come out with make his augments look like bandaids i really dont see an argument to leave any of them out of his base abilities except maybe smoke shadow because 150% crit chance for pressing 2 is pretty crazy although kullervo existing does counter that point a little. shuriken is worthless on its own, teleport is so limited as is and as you said is just a much worse version of kullervos 1, and bladestorm is a mess even with how strong it can be.
I think overall he's aged fairly well but having to sacrifice up to 3 mod slots to give his abilities things that have become basic and outclassed features shows just how old he really is. I just want my boy to be allowed to ball.