First Crusade: Partition of the Seljuk Empire - Medieval DOCUMENTARY

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  2 года назад +93

    Check out our fantasy/sci-fi channel - Wizards and Warriors: ruclips.net/channel/UCwqY9GjXBdSYeUZiinbFXyQ

    • @kalamvalleyvlog
      @kalamvalleyvlog 2 года назад +1

      I'm watching from Kalam valley

    • @pompacitokmakci
      @pompacitokmakci 2 года назад +3

      All Crusader states got destroyed by Turks
      County of Edessa->Nuraddin Zangi
      County of Antioch->Baibars
      County of Jaffa and Ascalon->Baibars
      Lordship of Sidon->Baibars
      County of Tripoli->Al Mansur Qalawun
      Lordship of Tyre->Al Ashraf Khalil
      Kingdom of Jerusalem->Al Ashraf Khalil
      :)))) and also
      Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia
      Empire of Trebizond
      Eastern Roman Empire
      Despotate of Mora
      Venetian Cyprus etc.

    • @pompacitokmakci
      @pompacitokmakci 2 года назад +2

      Turkish power had become a reality , to the extent that a chronicler of the Third Crusade already gave the name " Turchia ' to Seljuk Asia Minor .
      The Cambridge Illustrated History of the Middle Ages Volume 2. 950-1250 pp.465

    • @pompacitokmakci
      @pompacitokmakci 2 года назад +2

      @@gnanaganesh5937 Turks ruled India and won battles against Indians many times do you even know? Even three Turkic empire conquered big part of India and we ended more than 50 Indian kingdoms in history. There were more than 50 states of Turkic origin which ruled part of India.

    • @alenigmar7325
      @alenigmar7325 2 года назад

      Spanish subtitulos please

  • @firestorm1088
    @firestorm1088 2 года назад +131

    This is the most fascinating part of the crusades to me. Seeing how it wasn’t caused by any one thing but so many little factors all came together at the right time to create a perfect storm.

    • @MrWaterlionmonkey
      @MrWaterlionmonkey 6 месяцев назад +3

      Most wars are like this. There isn't 1 cause for any conflict. Generally people don't want to die so they wait until the reasons for war out weigh the reasons to live. Even the common narratives of the world wars or the war on terror or the Vietnam war or Ukraine war in the news or in popular imagination are vastly oversimplified

  • @AKAZA-kq8jd
    @AKAZA-kq8jd 2 года назад +419

    Love how you explore both sides before one big event truly remarkable keep making series like this.

    • @linkofvev
      @linkofvev 2 года назад +9

      @@beepboop204 The Chad of Chads.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 2 года назад +291

    It's always good to see different perspectives of the same historical event. Glad to see the Byzantine n Seljuk points of view. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 2 года назад +1

      @علي ياسر ---okay

    • @SamuelHallEngland
      @SamuelHallEngland 2 года назад +2

      Ant the relationship between the Cumans and Pechenegs too!

    • @NandiCollector
      @NandiCollector 2 года назад +2

      *This channel is pure satisfaction to watch.*

  • @kmmmsyr9883
    @kmmmsyr9883 2 года назад +292

    Great video as always, but there is a small mistake which most history RUclipsrs and even some academicians seem to make: Seljuks weren't an Oghuz tribe, they were a dynasty. The tribe Seljuk family belonged to is named "Qiniq Tribe" (Kınık Boyu in Istanbul Turkish and Qınıq Boyu in Azerbaijani Turkish) just like how Ottoman dynasty belonged to the Qayi (Kayı) Tribe. Many people call the subjects of those dynasties "Ottoman Turks" or "Seljuk Turks", but this is as if someone called Austrians "Habsburg Germans" or Prussians "Hohenzollern Germans".

    • @Raidon8537
      @Raidon8537 2 года назад +21

      another mistake: you said ''Kınık boyu in Istanbul Turkish and Qınıq boyu in Azerbaijani Turkish'' but Seljuks were not Turkish but Turkmen.

    • @mongke7858
      @mongke7858 2 года назад +96

      @@Raidon8537 Well modern Turkish and modern Turkmen didn't exist back then so neither.

    • @kmmmsyr9883
      @kmmmsyr9883 2 года назад +134

      @@Raidon8537 There was no "Turkish-Azerbaijani-Turkmen" division back then. It's a pretty modern thing. Back then, words "Turk" and "Turkmen" had almost the same meaning, while the word "Azerbaijani" didn't even mean anything. Debating that if the Seljuks were Turkmen, Turkish or Azerbaijani is the same as debating that if the Kievan Rus' were Russian, Ukrainian or Belarussian. Seljuks were Oghuz. And Oghuz people later seperated into Turkish, Azerbaijani, Turkmen, etc.
      The important thing is that Seljuks are an indispensable part of the national identities of all three of these modern nations. They are Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen at the same time.
      And I included the Azerbaijani and Istanbul Turkish versions of the words for extra info. I didn't include Turkmen versions, because I don't know Turkmen.

    • @yörükoğlu93
      @yörükoğlu93 2 года назад +16

      @@Raidon8537 actually they were no turkmens, turkish or azerbaijani, seljuks were oghuz turks, back in the time there is no turkish, azerbaijani or turkmen difference, people lived together until geography stands between them.

    • @brainblox5629
      @brainblox5629 2 года назад +38

      The historical meaning of Turkmen isn't the same as modern Turkmen. Turkmen in historical terms was mostly used for Turks who became Muslims and abandoned the traditional faith of Tengri. The Seljuqs were the quasi founders of Turkmens, since they started the mass conversion of Turks to Islam. This often came together with intermixing with Iranic muslims, thus Turkmens becoming more Persian/West Asian looking than the average Tengrist Asian Turk. But still East Asian looking, "resembling still a Turk" = "Türkmen", "like a Turk". These Turkmens spawned the Ottomans -> Turkey and modern Turkmenistan, also a few dynasties in Iran etc.

  • @PYRESATVARANASI
    @PYRESATVARANASI 2 года назад +187

    You mad lads actually did it. The Seljuks are my favorite topic of the Medieval Age.
    Their descentralization of the Great Seljuk Empire (1092 - 1100's) following Malik Shah's death is one of the most fascinating periods in history.
    The rise of the Atabegs and Emirs all ruling quasi-independent realms under the nominal suzerainty of the Great Seljuk Sultan (Rûm being the exception given they created their own Sultanate) quickly destabilize the whole Near East until the Rise of Saladin and the Ayyubid Sultanate.
    Giving rise to characters like Tutush, Kerbogah, Tzachas, Il-Ghazi, Suleiman of Rûm, Imad ad-Din Zengi and his famous son Nûr ad-Dín Zengi among many others. Like the northen realms of the Danishmends, Saltukids and Mengjuks etc.
    Also the Expansions of Manuil Komnenos during the 1160's and 1170's cemented the end of formal rule of the Great Seljuks in upper Syria and Eastern Cilicia.
    Great video guys! You covered everything in a well summarized manner and yet so well done.

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 2 года назад +7

      Check out the Kara Khitai. They aren't spoken about a lot but they were influential in Seljuk, Chinese and Mongol history.

    • @laxman90210
      @laxman90210 2 года назад +1

      @@grimgoreironhide9985 member them from age of empires 2

    • @explicit_207
      @explicit_207 2 года назад +4

      True the seljuks history always been fascinating and the period u mentioned with decentralisation and the rise of the zengids managed to pave a new era for which the rise of Salahuddin and the Mamluks would start :)

    • @ekremney
      @ekremney 2 года назад +1

      @@grimgoreironhide9985 beware the kara-khitai. they are without honour

  • @ada6220
    @ada6220 2 года назад +33

    18:16 The Turkish Navy was founded by Çaka Bey in 1081

  • @Kneorlan
    @Kneorlan 2 года назад +395

    If I saw a scene in a moviewhere a prisoner kills a Sultan after he missed him with an arrow I would think it's too far fetched fantasy - again reality proves stranger than fiction!

    • @SousouCell
      @SousouCell 2 года назад +50

      One of the stupidest deaths in the history of mankind ....... he could've asked his bodyguards to take care of the prisoner ....

    • @Ad-ek3kg
      @Ad-ek3kg 2 года назад +36

      @@SousouCell Well as far as i know he thought that this was the punishment of God. Because, he gained lots of territories and started to praise himself and forgot the name of the God. He said these before dying.

    • @vitorpereira9515
      @vitorpereira9515 2 года назад +17

      @@Ad-ek3kg His arrogance got him killed.

    • @mostafa_hafiz
      @mostafa_hafiz Год назад +15

      Especially if the sultan is someone like alp arslan :/

    • @hadrianwall9157
      @hadrianwall9157 Год назад +6

      LOL. Worse execution of an execution ever.

  • @tugtekin8660
    @tugtekin8660 2 года назад +134

    Prior to this, Alexios Komnenos was repeatedly defeated by the Pechenegs and other nomads in many battles. He has learned to beat again and again. The battle he is defeated is more. But that doesn't change the fact that he took the Byzantines from the brink of the abyss.

    • @Irfan87
      @Irfan87 2 года назад +2

      So that's where the PKP Pecheneg got it's name from.

    • @rafitohornero3850
      @rafitohornero3850 2 года назад +4

      @@Irfan87 pk in what term exactly ?

    • @ninjaa6952
      @ninjaa6952 2 года назад +9

      The byzantines constantly kicked the penchengs asses what are you on about.

    • @astrodas1910
      @astrodas1910 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ninjaa6952 Byzantine won some fights but were losing most especially during Seljuk advance from east. Pechenegs even started a siege on constantin but Kıpchaks (another Turkic nation) deleted pechenegs from history, siding with byzantine.

  • @soviet_yoda8820
    @soviet_yoda8820 2 года назад +91

    You guys have taught me more about european history than my classes have ever done

    • @Andre.A.C.Oliveira
      @Andre.A.C.Oliveira 2 года назад +3

      tbf they probably release as much content time in a month as teachers have in a whole school year.

    • @Music-xp5wg
      @Music-xp5wg 2 года назад

      Was there ever a peace in the middleast?

    • @emre30489
      @emre30489 Год назад +8

      @@Music-xp5wg was there ever peace in anywhere during these time periods? if you look into europe you will see similar conflicts.

  • @finalprophet813
    @finalprophet813 2 года назад +37

    Honestly one of the best videos you guys have done wow! So much happening in that 100 year period before the crusaders arrived, what a wild time it was.
    Plus seeing all the different angles and what each kingdom an empire was up to.

  • @abdullahbangash1960
    @abdullahbangash1960 2 года назад +72

    "Kings and Generals" made history most interesting then ever ...

  • @Ste.V
    @Ste.V 2 года назад +114

    Everytime I watch videos about byzantium, even if you don't consider the infighting, the amount of fronts with people raiding and plundering must had been so headache inducing for every ruler. Like every week some random tribe on the other side of the empire starts raiding you, how annoying is that.

    • @mohammedhasan8388
      @mohammedhasan8388 2 года назад +10

      it was because roman army at that time was very outdated, heavily armoured and too slow to respond.

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 2 года назад +27

      @@mohammedhasan8388 Nope we see in this very video the Byzantines were able to repel the Seljuk raids up to Manzikert. They were also being raided By Pechenegs and Oghuz Turks at the same time in the Balkans while Normans were invading their territory in Italy. Too many new enemies at one time and not enough forces.
      Anthony Kaldellis makes an excellent point in his book, Streams of Gold, Rivers of Blood: The Rise and Fall of Byzantium, 955AD to the First Crusade, that the Byzantine Army showed no sign of actual decline up to Manzikert.
      Only suffering a temporary stagnation under the Reign Of Constantine Doukas who was indeed the worst Post Basil Emperor but quickly showing under Romanos Diogenes that it was still combat ready and experienced in its victories against the Turks in Syria before Manzikert.

    • @AnatolianHittite
      @AnatolianHittite 2 года назад +14

      @@tylerellis9097 I watched the video and saw that the Byzantines again used another Turkish army to defeat the Turks.What can Rome do against horsemen shooting arrows from afar?

    • @finalprophet813
      @finalprophet813 2 года назад +13

      @@HansWurst1569 If you are talking about the size of the empire, I wouldn’t say overstretched, by the 1000s their empire was moderate size, I’d say where the empire sat, it was sitting in the eastern Mediterranean, sitting between too many strategic and important areas, and so many different areas to be attacked from, that’s what made it hard to defend at times.

    • @finalprophet813
      @finalprophet813 2 года назад +2

      @@HansWurst1569 all good bro 👌🏼

  • @HorvardPasha
    @HorvardPasha 2 года назад +62

    3:00 The Seldjuks were not a tribe of the Oghuz Turks. They were a dynasty, leading the Kinik tribe (one of 24 Oghuzic tribes) for a specific amount of time. Just as the Ottomans were not a tribe themselves at the early times of its history but a dynasty that claimed to be of Kayi (another Oghuzic tribe) origin.

    • @HorvardPasha
      @HorvardPasha 2 года назад +17

      @علي ياسر Not in the case of Turkic Dynasties. Ottoman Sultans often married their own "slaves" (not the most accurate term for it but the nearest). Ottoman princesses were married off to Pashas mostly (who themselves were mostly children of regular peasants in the Balkans, which were taken away from their families and got educated in the Palace school "Enderun", because potential of intelligence was seen in them) to secure their loyalty to the ruling Imperial dynasty. The Ottomans didn't imply the concept of Feudalism, hence there was no "nobility" in the court. Most Anatolian governours were the descendents of the former ruling dynasties of the local Beyliks who ruled there before the Ottomans came (Karamans, Germiyans, etc.). So no, Turkic dynasties don't marry with nobles since there is no nobility in Turkic society, especially in nomadic Turkic cultures.

    • @HorvardPasha
      @HorvardPasha 2 года назад +26

      @@hockeyh There is no ethicity called "Ottoman Turks". There is the royal family of the House of Osman -> Ottoman dynasty, which ruled in the course of history over 72 different ethnicities. The Ottoman family was ethnically and linguistically Oghuz Turkic. The Oghuz Turks are one branch of 4 different main Turkic branches (Kipchak, Karluk and Sibir are the other branches). They were divided in 24 different tribes. The Seldjuk dynasty was part of the Kınık tribe. The Ottoman dynasty was (according to later Ottoman historians such as Ashikpashazade) part of the Kayı tribe. The Ottomans ruled over many Oghuzic tribes, but not all. Such as the Seldjuks ruled over most of the Oghuz tribes but again, not all. The Ottoman Empire is the successor state of the Seldjuk Empire. But both dynasties are not related by blood. And they also don't originate from the same tribe. Both are Oghuz Turkic families, and that's all they share with eachother.

    • @apalahartisebuahnama7684
      @apalahartisebuahnama7684 2 года назад +2

      @@HansWurst1569 I think the dynamic of tribal society in steppe cultures were much more different than settled tribes of contemporary Europe.

    • @hasantaskn5231
      @hasantaskn5231 2 года назад +1

      @@hockeyh Imagine being an highshool student in Turkey...

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 Год назад +4

    it is amazing to learn about the important part of the First Crusade that a lot of people overlook. It is not just a "perspective"; it is a part of fact that will help us make sense of history, not historical myth.

  • @darrenbutler9819
    @darrenbutler9819 2 года назад +18

    I absolutely love coming home from work to watch K&Gs' latest video, Cheers to the team that make them.

  • @airboy52
    @airboy52 2 года назад +6

    Excellent job👍No distortion,no unnecessary details,very clean and smooth narrative.Well done guys.

  • @wxj5640
    @wxj5640 2 года назад +49

    It would be interesting if you guys make a video about partitioning of the Ottoman Empire after WWI and the Turkish independence war

    • @vasslander9602
      @vasslander9602 2 года назад +1

      I remember Kings and Generals replying to a comment years ago, that the Ottoman series they are doing would include the formation of Turkish Republic as well. But I'm guessing those are still years away.

  • @fatihaydogdu2720
    @fatihaydogdu2720 2 года назад +10

    14:12 At this point our story sinks up really badly. But the most acceptable scenario is the death of Süleyman Şah against Artuk Bey and Tutuş. His sons, Kılıçarslan (in the next episode) and Kulan Arslan taken prisoners and was sent to capital Rey and stood there until the death of Melikşah. Some sources claim that they have poisoned Melikşah, while modern historians say Melikşah got poisoned from his wife because she was afraid of Kılıçarslan taking the entire Selçuk Empire. Kılıçarslan was coming from Arslan Yabgu>Kutalmış>Süleymanşah and he was the rightful heir to the throne and Tuğrul Bey was going to give the throne back to Kutalmış if Alparslan wouldn't coup and take it for himself. So wife of Melikşah poisoned him and said that Kılıçarslan did it so her 5 year old son Muhammed Tapar can get the throne. And this resulted the collapse of the empire. Kılıçarslan fled the city with his brother and came back to anatolia, where the Crusades was started immediately after. It is worth to mention that he was very young while all these happening (Around 16 years old).
    Despite his young age, he was cunning like his father and although he couldn't repel, he starved out the crowded Crusaders led by Bohemond. He asked for help from Berkyaruk(son of Melikşah) but Berkyaruk laughed "No nation can do this to the Turks" and refused. Kılıçarslan destroyed the entire Crusader army sent in 1101. His life must be told in a 10 season long TV Series.

  • @MomotheToothless
    @MomotheToothless 2 года назад +33

    It's a bird, it's a plane, it's the Seljuk Turks.

  • @nostress6353
    @nostress6353 2 года назад +48

    Absolutely fantastic channel. Keep it going and I know we will get soo much more in the future

  • @rageraptor7127
    @rageraptor7127 2 года назад +4

    Your content is so good. Future generations are going to need a new channel covering the events of the channel. Tales of kings and generals

  • @Hunayn286
    @Hunayn286 2 года назад +1

    شكراً على ما تقدمونه نحن كمتابعيين عرب ندعم هذا المحتوى العلمي البرهاني الثقافي ونتمنى يكون من الكتب والمصادر وليس ويكيبيديا

  • @grimgoreironhide9985
    @grimgoreironhide9985 2 года назад +15

    The Seljuk suffered their own version of Manzikert. This was the battle of Qatwan against the Kara Khitai. After this battle they descended into a slow decline due to infighting. History doesn't repeat but it sure rhymes.

    • @muhammadpasha313
      @muhammadpasha313 6 месяцев назад

      not really the battle of Qatwan was the fall of the seljuks of east, the western or iraqi stated for a few more years but they were supper weak and had so much infighting

  • @Brahmdagh
    @Brahmdagh 2 года назад +25

    Suljuk Vizier Nizam'-ul-Mulk's "educational reforms" played a huge part in he extinguishing of science and rationality in the Muslim world.
    As you can see, this was a time when Shia/Sunni schism and fervor was at its peak.
    Creating an environment where everyone was inquisitioning any mindset that didn't immediately comply unconditionally.
    And as you can see, not much science came out of the Muslim world after this period.
    Before Nizam's reforms, education was kind of a personal thing. Or not centrally controlled. People learned things they felt mattered. And education was funded by merchant and Bourgeoisie
    After Nizam's reforms, we see the emergence of the Mullah/Molvi/Ulema class. Education, curriculum and degrees became strictly controlled. And state became the primary sponsor of education. And because of the extractive Iqta system, merchants/bourgeoisie became slowly less and less influential.

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 2 года назад +1

      Well we can't blame solely on him, he was serving under the Turk, who are a very strong adherent of sufistic Islam. Not to mention the Turks as a nomadic people are not very concern about science and invention or all that matters, their main concern are military advancement and political supremacy. Nizam Ul Mulk only did what his Sultan told him to do if not his head would be rolling on the ground :P.

    • @themercifulguard3971
      @themercifulguard3971 2 года назад +4

      There were still progress and periods of flourishing. It’s just that it stagnated or slowed down.
      Like at the same time the Seljuks rose to power, the Andalusian Muslims were still high in educational and religious fervor, especially when the First Taifas period is just around the corner.

  • @DM-dy9bq
    @DM-dy9bq 2 года назад +35

    The last of the seljuk dynasty then live in Holy Roman Empire, converted to christianity and granted the title of minor noble. They are the Soldan family in Germany nowadays. Their last remnants still live up until this day and they are no longer Turk or even Turko-German, but completely nativised Germans.

    • @cengizsogutlu
      @cengizsogutlu 2 года назад

      That's interesting

    • @21stEidein
      @21stEidein 2 года назад

      Where can i find information about this family?

    • @imawormbeforeiamman6052
      @imawormbeforeiamman6052 2 года назад

      @@penzorphallos3199 are a greek?

    • @varana
      @varana 2 года назад +5

      Without further evidence, I'd assume that this story is nonsense.

    • @meralkeskin8511
      @meralkeskin8511 2 года назад

      Solden... 😂 😂 😂 It isnot important. Ottoman family also is seljuky by side mother. They are living... Ottoman⚔️⚔️⚔️Real dynasty.. Halime sultan seljuky

  • @benbenim826
    @benbenim826 2 года назад +3

    Seljuk history is underestimated most of the time. It is as important as the Otoman history. You should make more videos about the Seljuk and Byzantine wars such as Myriacephalon

  • @wewenang5167
    @wewenang5167 2 года назад +26

    How many blind nobles and former emperor do you want?
    Byzantium: YES!

  • @TuwuAshina60
    @TuwuAshina60 2 года назад +49

    The blood of the Pechenegs, the Cumans and the Turkmens, shed their brothers' blood for money. 😔

    • @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306
      @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 2 года назад +9

      @@A_I_N_P There were no "nationalism" back then in modern sense however there was some form of ethno-national/ethno-cultural awareness. Especially that ethnolinguistic/ethnocultural awareness(Some form of supra-tribalism) was prominent amongst steppe people.
      IE: 1- The Ashina clan, who established the Göktürk khanate used the supraethnonym "Turk", for every single Oghuz and Tatar group(excluding any non-Turkic speaking nomads, exclusively for Turkic speaking nomads back then), obviously on linguistic and cultural basis in 7th century CE.
      2- Cumans refused the letters of Osman and Orhan Bey's(second ruler of the Ottomans) for alliance who stated that "both of Ottomans and them were Turks who should join forces against Byzantines"; Most striking was Cumans replying back with a single liner letter: "You are not Turks, but Byzantine wannabees who don't seek brothers but dogs", referring to Ottoman rulers' Byzantine matrilineal descent(this is even nowadays debated tho). Sorta quite "racist" for 13th century standards, even for modern standards.
      3-Tamerlane belittled Bayezid citing that "he did not resembled his ancestors, and betrayed their glorious ancestors by aspiring to be Persians and Byzantines" in his letters. However, his first letters were written in Persian purple prose. So the Ottomans belittled him back citing that at least they "wrote in the language of Turks but Tamerlane, in Persian".

    • @ahal_gokdepe
      @ahal_gokdepe 2 года назад +1

      yeaa. Cumans and Kypchaks always back stabbed Oghuz. FYI Pechenegs were most likely an Oghuz Tribe - Bechene

    • @AnatolianHittite
      @AnatolianHittite 2 года назад

      @Ceyhun ay Greeks have similar expressions.And Çaka Bey really wanted to unite against Byzantium.

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад +6

    By the way, I hope you will continue your miniseries on the Ghaznavids :-) Great video, I love how you close the gaps in Byzantine history.

  • @hannibalbarca2928
    @hannibalbarca2928 2 года назад +6

    "Turkish power had become a reality , to the extent that a chronicler of the Third Crusade already gave the name " Turchia ' to Seljuk Asia Minor ."
    SOURCE
    The Cambridge Illustrated History of the Middle Ages Volume 2. 950-1250 pp.465

  • @ruibranco87
    @ruibranco87 2 года назад +4

    TY as always, from the beggining, from portugal! Best Regards

  • @franciscojorgesousaandrade9611
    @franciscojorgesousaandrade9611 2 года назад +6

    congratulations for the video and the content, it is important to understand first the field that was before the arrival of the first crusade.

  • @pompacitokmakci
    @pompacitokmakci 2 года назад +36

    Turkish power had become a reality , to the extent that a chronicler of the Third Crusade already gave the name " Turchia ' to Seljuk Asia Minor .
    The Cambridge Illustrated History of the Middle Ages Volume 2. 950-1250 pp.465
    T

    • @ایرانبان-ظ3س
      @ایرانبان-ظ3س 2 года назад +10

      Only with the help of Persian civilization

    • @emrealn3786
      @emrealn3786 2 года назад +30

      @@ایرانبان-ظ3س "persia", or todays iran run by Turks from 1000's to 1900's. So no. It was Turks who built strong empires in that geography.

    • @nenenindonu
      @nenenindonu 2 года назад +17

      @@emrealn3786 From Seljuks to Qajars the only non-Turkic Dynasties to rule Iran in this millennium long period were the Ilkhanids, Muzaffarids and Zands(the only Iranian one)

    • @elininkoru3739
      @elininkoru3739 2 года назад +5

      @@ایرانبان-ظ3س 🤡

    • @nimaghayed5258
      @nimaghayed5258 2 года назад

      @@tornado4708 wtf 🤡💩🦍

  • @AbrilBoy
    @AbrilBoy 2 года назад +6

    Nice video as always! Hope to see the next part soon!

  • @holyfreak86
    @holyfreak86 2 года назад +77

    Seljuks, the ones who finished the cataphractarii for good after 1200 years.

    • @johnnybrave7443
      @johnnybrave7443 2 года назад +7

      They destroyed the Roman civilization 😔

    • @ORION00119
      @ORION00119 2 года назад +46

      @@johnnybrave7443 no they didn't the eastern Roman Empire lasted til the ottomans. Did they cripple them at the time? Yes but destroy? No.

    • @EgyptianMuslim76
      @EgyptianMuslim76 2 года назад +14

      @@johnnybrave7443 Good.

    • @johnnybrave7443
      @johnnybrave7443 2 года назад +2

      @@ORION00119 you're right, i confused the seljuks with the Ottomans, my mistake 😅

    • @Montechristoss
      @Montechristoss 2 года назад +8

      "The Seljuks finished the katafranktoi for good after 1200 " that is very generic and not completely truth

  • @rudman97
    @rudman97 2 года назад +51

    The death of Alp Arslan sound eerily similar with the death of Ghurid ruler Muhammad of Ghor.
    According to the legends, they died at the hand of their captives while enjoying their tortures.

    • @scottanno8861
      @scottanno8861 2 года назад +1

      My guess is the ruler drank too much wine during the...events...and so missed his shot and stumbled getting up

    • @rudman97
      @rudman97 2 года назад

      @@scottanno8861 Hahaha, but then they are against wine also.....

    • @zakariamattu8613
      @zakariamattu8613 2 года назад +7

      Nah Mohammed of ghor died while in praying at night

    • @kalkanciii
      @kalkanciii 2 года назад +14

      @@scottanno8861 that guess will suit more to christian rulers rather then muslim leaders lol

    • @imawormbeforeiamman6052
      @imawormbeforeiamman6052 2 года назад

      @@kalkanciii but Selim the blonde was known for being a drunker and died when he got stumbled in the bathroom

  • @snicket87
    @snicket87 2 года назад +2

    Great vídeo on a not covered topic! Another fine job!

  • @TURK10121
    @TURK10121 9 месяцев назад +2

    The Chaka principality never lost to the Romans in a naval battle, on the contrary, they crushed them. Alexios 1 tricked the Anatolian Seljuks into showing them as enemies and the Anatolian Seljuks defeated the Chaka principality.

  • @alinergis4599
    @alinergis4599 2 года назад +1

    Well it is nice to see such a good RUclips channel realized Turkic people had numerous adventures to show for us.

  • @badmacdonald
    @badmacdonald 2 года назад +39

    i love the First Crusade! it was an operation that was doomed to failure even before a step was made. yet managed to complete its objectives! there was hubris, arrogance, ignorance, naivety, overconfidence, innocence. there was thirst there was starvation. a lack of understanding of people and tactics of their enemy. there was distrust and backstabbing of allies and hatred amongst themselves which set up a dangerous lack of communication almost bringing disaster at every turn! there too was bravery and commitment to their God. a dogged resilience to get to the Holy Land to take back Jerusalem. If it was a movie it would be too far fetched for anyone to get their head round!

    • @badmacdonald
      @badmacdonald 2 года назад +3

      an appendage. it could also be used as a symbol which would be very dangerous in todays climate! revisionists are rampant at this point in history! read on and read as much as you can because it teaches us that if you believe, even when you re human you can achieve. There is no revisionist that can dispute this about the First Crusade!

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 2 года назад +10

      I dont know man. I think the flaws of the Crusaders is often overemphasized for dramatic storytelling, while the competence of the Turks is overemphasized for the very same reason.

    • @hectoraceves1494
      @hectoraceves1494 2 года назад +2

      @@DieNibelungenliad Agreed

    • @badmacdonald
      @badmacdonald 2 года назад +1

      @@DieNibelungenliad i understand what you re saying. true, its an easily romanticised tale. i do think think in this case tho truth is far stranger than fiction. there was so much weighed against them, internal and external. their behaviour towards each other! the distrust of the Eastern Romans, the scheming of the Eastern Romans. Their contempt for everyone. There was so many times the Crusade should have ended in disaster but miraculously didnt. sometimes it is what it is!

    • @007VitaminD
      @007VitaminD 2 года назад +1

      @@badmacdonald But those factors of scheming and internal plotting existed in every regime and army. Nothing special here.

  • @reichfuhrer1942
    @reichfuhrer1942 2 года назад +16

    It's so painful to see The ERE losing that much land in just a span of a few decades.

  • @danieldpa8484
    @danieldpa8484 2 года назад

    And this is how historical material is prepared and presented. Well done guys! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Mitthradata
    @Mitthradata 2 года назад +18

    Sources are conflicted on the death of alp arsalan, malik shah and nizam ol-mulk. There are sources that claim all three were slain by assassiyun (assassins), and the are sources that claim alp arsalan was killed by an enemy noble, malik shah died in a hunting accident, and nizam ol-mulk was killed by angry mob. From the books written in the time, it seems like all three were killed by assassins and the other stories were government propaganda to stop people from thinking assassins were powerful enough to do such deeds and therefore stop people from joining them

    • @ivokantarski6220
      @ivokantarski6220 2 года назад +3

      Yeah it is not convenient for people to know that there is an organisation with men so talanted it could shake an empire like that.

  • @nicholasfowler8982
    @nicholasfowler8982 2 года назад +1

    This video was a triumphant analysis of both the seljuk and byzantine perspectives well done!

  • @Shank5ter
    @Shank5ter 2 года назад +22

    I love your series but your sponsor this week is a scam. The Scottish courts ruled, in direct response to this company, that buying a 1 by 1 square foot of land doesn’t make you a lord. Normally I wouldn’t say anything but a lot of people are falling for this and it sucks

    • @angusmcewing3557
      @angusmcewing3557 2 года назад +6

      Additionally the land register is not allowed to register such novelty plots and therefore, under Scots law, you cannot legally gain ownership of that land.

  • @djadjamo7128
    @djadjamo7128 2 года назад +1

    محتوى مفيد شكرا للقناة والساهرين على تقديم مثل هذه البرامج المفيدة . أرجو إضافة ترجمة بالعربية . وشكرا

  • @omerta926
    @omerta926 2 года назад +3

    Amazing work, once again! If I had to only watch one channel for the rest of my life, this would be it! There wouldn’t even be close second tbh

  • @TheUgluk666
    @TheUgluk666 2 года назад +1

    Every time I finish an episode I look for the next everyday hellava job

  • @historydocumentary
    @historydocumentary 2 года назад +1

    Great video. TYVM.

  • @brettervonkanada6102
    @brettervonkanada6102 Год назад +1

    No mention of King David IV of Georgia, the man who handed Seljuks their first major and the biggest L in 1121, resulting in the eventual fragmentation and fall of the Seljuk Empire and the rise of the Golden Age Georgia, reconquering all of Caucasus, Shirvan, Armenia, most of Circassia, vasalising Trebizond, Crimea, Azerbaijan and Kipchak chiefdom while slapping the Rum, Khwarezm and Eldiguzids around. Winning battles like Shamkor and Basiani with nearly 4-5x disadvantage (at least 2x if you take the Georgian annals' exaggeration in mind).
    Edit, I just saw you have a separate video on that, well done!

    • @brettervonkanada6102
      @brettervonkanada6102 6 месяцев назад

      @swag8861 Name 1... Seljuks were slapped around by Georgians, Rum was beaten every single time by Georgia. Khwaresmians never conquered. Timurids also never conquered even after invading 8 times, Timur even said that he's a lion who left his tail in Georgia. If you mean Ilkhanate, they were a Mongol Khanate, not Turkic, and they conquered only half of Georgia and were expelled soon enough. Qara Quynlu never conquered Georgia. And finally Ottoman Empire has never ruled over more than 30-40% of Georgia (maybe half by modern day borders). And every one above mentioned empire was defeated at least once WHILE also fighting another powerful empire like Iran/Persia, Mongols or Arabs. All those defeats by a tiny kingdom with 100x less population and a religion that is against war. Where's the pride in being a nomad tribes with hundreds of millions of population with no culture or identity compared to a small nation defending its religion and traditions for over 3000 years? We've outlasted every one of those empires (except for Ottomans which is still alive as Turkey).

    • @brettervonkanada6102
      @brettervonkanada6102 6 месяцев назад

      @swag8861 you read history from kebab menu I see. Hunnic empire was nowhere near Caucasus, neither was Gokturk and Khazar, the rest I already debunked but you just admitted that you cannot read... I thought you were a serious person asking a serious question but looks like you're just an egomaniac who's angry because his people have no history, no culture and no national identity.

    • @brettervonkanada6102
      @brettervonkanada6102 6 месяцев назад

      @swag8861 Everything you just wrote I already debunked but looks like you can only read a kebab menu 😂😂

    • @brettervonkanada6102
      @brettervonkanada6102 6 месяцев назад

      @swag8861 Man said Hunnic, Gokturk and Khazar 🤣🤣 They were literally nowhere near the Caucasus... Also Safavids were Turkic? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @brettervonkanada6102
      @brettervonkanada6102 6 месяцев назад

      ​@swag8861 Everything you just wrote I already debunked before you wrote it 🤣🤣 Typical Turk IQ

  • @mobiggcro
    @mobiggcro 2 года назад +8

    I hope this series continues untill the battle of hattin as it would be interesting to see how after first crusade the muslims slowly responded to their new opponent.

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 2 года назад +1

    Missed you guys, been sick

  • @kdr121279
    @kdr121279 2 года назад +3

    Your channel and all your videos are brilliant. All too often, historical events are told largely from one side - and that's an inaccurate view. Understanding what's going on with all players in the Crusades really helps understand why this event happened and why that was relevant. Kudos and keep up the great work!!

  • @yuribrito1504
    @yuribrito1504 2 года назад +2

    Excelent video! Do the Second Crusade, including the siege of Lisbon (1147) and the Portuguese Reconquista. The Second Crusade failed in the levant (Outremer), but it was a TOTAL success within the Iberian Peninsula.
    After the siege of Lisbon, the Portuguese king Afonso Henriques, who was the 1st king of Portugal, simply reconquered all the current Portuguese districts of Lisbon, Santarém, Évora, Setúbal, Beja and Faro.
    Do a video about Ferdinand III of Castile as well. During his reign, the Castilian Reconquista reached its peak!

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 2 года назад

    Brillant as usual. I very much love the tactical depth.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 года назад +2

    What a great episode! ⚔🏹⚔

  • @yektaadguzel9294
    @yektaadguzel9294 2 года назад +35

    (I have to make this joke guys, sorry.)
    It is a bird!
    It is a plane!
    It is the SELJUK TURKS!

  • @syedafzaalalishah3835
    @syedafzaalalishah3835 2 года назад +2

    I watch one King and generals video during lunch and today I was looking for crusade, And in the evening it came out

  • @eddyamoke5009
    @eddyamoke5009 2 года назад +1

    Amazing content, really gets you in the moment.

  • @georgenero6694
    @georgenero6694 2 года назад +5

    Nice video, however, one correction, Liparit IV was not the Georgian prince, he was not from the royal family, just a typical duke of the southern Georgian region, and in reality, his family was widely considered in history as traitors and separatists that's why soon after was wiped out by The Georgian Kingdom.

  • @Domesthenes
    @Domesthenes Год назад +1

    This channel is amazing and I'm so glad that I found it! If I could make a request, could you do a series on the American Revolution or the American Civil War? I would love to see your take on those!

  • @KubilaTheFirst
    @KubilaTheFirst 2 года назад +1

    High quality serie and great videos.

  • @aaron6178
    @aaron6178 2 года назад +2

    one of your best. well done

  • @AKD---999
    @AKD---999 2 года назад +3

    Please share your sources about Alparslan's death.
    Your version seems actually phantasmal !

  • @mandanoduster
    @mandanoduster 2 года назад +6

    So the crusades were basically invented to fight the Turks.
    Since the Seljuks, the Mameluks, the Penchineks and the Cumanians were all Turks.
    Damn.

    • @hasantaskn5231
      @hasantaskn5231 2 года назад

      Bulgarians and Hungarians( Hun Empire) were too. But they got assimilated. Imagine if we had our own religion. Nomadic tribes are strong as fuck, but they fight each other unless somebody unites them (Cengiz Han)

    • @nobrainer616
      @nobrainer616 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah turkic people were great warriors back in the days.
      Also don’t forget that Cumanians(western name for Kipchaks) and Mamelukes(the same Kipchaks) were not from Oghuz branch like Turks, Azeri and Turkmen, but Kipchak Turkic and direct ancestors of Kazakhs🇰🇿

    • @Xirsiev
      @Xirsiev 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, represent by Islam identity

  • @Swordmaster-em3zg
    @Swordmaster-em3zg 2 года назад

    Established titles is really cool and a good cause, one little side effect of it is that you can’t run for any federal level political office in the US without renouncing your title.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 2 года назад +3

    Back to back videos from wizards and kings?! This is a good day 👍

  • @babursen1176
    @babursen1176 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video, my favourite Series ottoman, seljuk and first crusade

  • @doesnotreallymatterr
    @doesnotreallymatterr 2 года назад +6

    At the beginning of 12th century during the reign Georgian King David the IV he will consolidate Georgia and launch mini-reconquista in entire caucasus region, during that period David and his victories further weakened Seljuk Empire so I really hope that u'll at least mention it, been waiting for that for years.

  • @randomuser6175
    @randomuser6175 2 года назад +5

    I've read somewhere that the vizier of the Seljuks Nizamulmulk and the founder of the assassin order Hassan Sabbah are childhood friends. They even studied in the same school but their careers went on very different ways I suppose :)

    • @rrp7983
      @rrp7983 2 года назад +1

      I’ve heard of this too but I believe that this was refuted by some people due to the high difference in age.

    • @randomuser6175
      @randomuser6175 2 года назад +1

      @@rrp7983 yeah there is a big gap indeed. Maybe they were just acquaintances

  • @МитчЛакер-е7д
    @МитчЛакер-е7д 2 года назад +4

    wrong banners, two-headed eagles were not the banners of Empire, it only Paleologis dynasty banner. Komnins used only byzantium cross

  • @matiasconverti5328
    @matiasconverti5328 2 года назад

    Yesss i was waiting for this video

  • @emirhank50823
    @emirhank50823 2 года назад +29

    Great Seljuks, the founder ancestors of Modern Turkey.

  • @GeorgeEstregan828
    @GeorgeEstregan828 2 года назад +2

    We really need a Medieval 3: Total War

  • @tahsenhossain3749
    @tahsenhossain3749 2 года назад +5

    why you stopped making videos on ottomon wars?

    • @AlexC-ou4ju
      @AlexC-ou4ju 2 года назад +1

      a good question I miss it :(

  • @patotrentacoste
    @patotrentacoste 2 года назад +2

    Suggestion: make a video series about the Age of Empires 2 campaigns. You are almost there, you got some vids already. You could do a collaboration with T90, that would be sooo epic

  • @RandomDude-bo1lg
    @RandomDude-bo1lg 2 года назад

    How I love this channel

  • @Raidon8537
    @Raidon8537 2 года назад +14

    I love how the Turkic peoples, especially after the Turkic Khaganate period, suddenly established multi states in different geographies and religions and ruled the Middle Ages.

  • @putinpunhere
    @putinpunhere 2 года назад

    This backstory truly is fascinating...

  • @MrMimamoto
    @MrMimamoto 2 года назад

    As always a great and informative video. Keep it up guys and girls

  • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
    @TheOldBlackShuckyDog 2 года назад +1

    Any plans to do a 5th crusade video?

  • @cassiusijeomah4239
    @cassiusijeomah4239 Год назад

    I Like What I See And Read On This Channel

  • @SeArCh4DrEaMz
    @SeArCh4DrEaMz 2 года назад

    okay the soundtracks are still as epic as ever! (14:34 u knu shits gona go down)

  • @bubulolo207
    @bubulolo207 Год назад +2

    What is the game used in the background?

  • @ferdousmahmud123
    @ferdousmahmud123 11 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest, you need more knowledge about the death of Sultan Alparslan who martyred by the commander of berzem fortress . ( Who was in sultan presence to talk but stab him 3 times by dager which one he hide in his boot).

  • @sjwoo13
    @sjwoo13 2 года назад +2

    Think you guys have a typo at 10:45
    Should probably say "but romanos's slow to respond and divided empire was no match for alp aslan's expert leadership of alps aslan and nomadic tactics"
    Cause it sounds like you're literally saying that "Alp aslan's expert leadership and nomadic tactics were no match for the slow to respond and divided empire."
    Meaning that alp aslan was no match for romanos.

  • @habibullah7739
    @habibullah7739 2 года назад +3

    Battle of manzikert war the major battle in history because it opeaned the gates for turks after yamrouk

  • @noname-ml7lm
    @noname-ml7lm 2 года назад

    I hope the Cuman-Kypchak video is long as this

  • @mjw907
    @mjw907 2 года назад

    Just realized that weird noise in your videos is crickets in the night. Used to wonder if something was wrong with my headphones.

  • @aliazarmehralparslan6067
    @aliazarmehralparslan6067 2 года назад +1

    Please make a video about Eldeguzids aka Atabegs of Azerbaijan. I really want to learn more about them.

  • @tahaabbasi7626
    @tahaabbasi7626 2 года назад

    Love the videos !!!

  • @m3dicated
    @m3dicated 2 года назад +3

    What a coincidence, I'm just playing as the Komnenoi in CK3.

  • @erfancurufinwe8356
    @erfancurufinwe8356 2 года назад +2

    The Assasians or the same kings of Alamut destroyed the Seljuk Empire from the inside.
    Malek Shah, along with his senior minister, killed in a bathroom by the killers' sect, his boys failed to capture Alamut.
    And ultimately, with successive killings, they suffered chaos and destruction .

  • @andreaparolini1755
    @andreaparolini1755 2 года назад

    Ck2 soundtrack is so good on these videos. 🖤

  • @azarisLP
    @azarisLP 2 года назад +1

    11:20 "Call an ambulance! But not for me..."

  • @benm2081
    @benm2081 2 года назад

    Cant wait for the next one!!!!

  • @Πολεμιστης-μ7ξ
    @Πολεμιστης-μ7ξ 2 года назад

    Good work, well done 😉👍👍👍

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 года назад

    Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

  • @ericponce8740
    @ericponce8740 2 года назад +10

    Alexios Komnenos ...Great Roman Emperor.

    • @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306
      @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 2 года назад +1

      Whose great grand daughter became an Ottoman Princess and was the great grandmother of Mehmed II, who by bloodline gave legitimacy for the ERE throne. And afterwards, you know, cannons and grand bombards etc....

    • @Kimmerios-l5u
      @Kimmerios-l5u 2 года назад

      @@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 actually the Ottomans appeared 200 years after the Komnenan dynasty so this cooment is in accurate.