When I've used hydraulic punches I use the 20mm punch to create the hole for the larger shank required for the larger punches removing the need for a cone step drill or hole saw which is particularly important on stainless. This mean you only need to drill a 12mm hole for even the biggest of punches where drill bits like Sutton's Inox drill bits would speed up the process nicely.
A great tool, but a bit too pricey for me. I make do with Q-Max punches and an impact driver. Milwaukee do a similar looking tool for stripping large cables. It would be interesting to know if they work on cables here.
I had a set of "hole punch" dies ( Called I think Crookes Cutters?), drilled a 10mm hole, and used an Allen key adaptor on my battery drill to wind them through the metal, nice clean hole, no filing afterwards.
I used something similar to that 20 years ago, it was a hydraulic version with a side pump arm. Brilliant bit of kit for panel work, but to warrant buying one you need to be working on panels or on on industrial installations all the time 💰👍
Always found the Q max punches great for enlarging a existing 20mm hole in enclosures / trunking into a 25mm or more. Yes they were handraulic with a extended allen key. I'm retired now but still have them in my tool box...you never know?
Punch cutter is better than any hole saw or cone drill any day.. it’s the only one able do make a clean cut. that one is good if you spend your days doing holes otherwise the manual ones do the job and are cheap if you have to punch a few every now and then. And to be fair I probably wouldn’t bother with that whole process till it goes above 25mm or it’s stainless.. The hole saw from that kit cutting the stainless will probably go in the bin after.
This will be great when drilling a hole for a new supply cable in trunking with already present live cable for other flat. Always been anxious and supercarefull not hit the live ones with the holesaw.
Yeah a bit rich for me i was taught with the good old tried n trusted hole saw.. & a file im so up for new ways of making the sparkie life easier loving your work guys every video is like a day on the job aka a school day....👏👍
Great tool if you’ve got to create many precise holes in steel or stainless. On the rare occasions we have to do this sort of thing it’d be invaluable, but none of us like having expansive tools not out there earning their keep. I haven’t seen the price but I’m sure it’s not for the faint-hearted!! As far as the Milwonky goes - I have the 125mm cordless bandsaw (which I think is what you’re referring to) and it definitely takes a bit of practice to get it spot on but once you’re used to it it is magic. Wouldn’t use a disc cutter now unless I absolutely had to.
not only does the US kit have more punches for less money, our ball adaptor is an interrupted thread connection, so if you're doing a bunch of the same size hole, you just pop the adaptor off with a one third turn to clear the slugs.
Must say when I had a little play with it when last up, got to say nice piece of kit for commercial / industrial sparks. The only issue I found was there was no 38mm punch. Yes a 40mm punch, but with today's 38mm bushes the hole was to big IMHO. Great review guys, see you soon !!
I can think of two scenarios. 1. Not enough space for a drill and step cutter; 2. You can damage the contents of the box with the step cutter (RCBOs, wires, etc).
makes sense if your punching a load of holes at one time bit of a pain in the arse having to use a drill so you can use the punch tool to begin with. maybe someone can come up with a quick release tool that punches the starting hole or even an adapter that doesn't require a starting hole to be drilled.
Awesome tool, however after few years of usage it starts to leak oil, I was not able to find a seal kit and Milwaukee repair center wants more then the tool itself for the repair.
That’s the perfect tool for those who like having there tools nicked or there vans broken into Then having a view day’s off work wile you wait for the insurance company to pay out . Good idea 👍 Great video guy’s as always . Nice tool though despite my negative comment just can’t understand why you would spend a load of money for something that is likely to get nicked .
Great video thank you . Does the slug and trunking get hot from the press tool. A little disappointed that it doesn't come with the 2 inch press as standard but comes with 16mm.Out of interest why have they including a 16mm. I can't think of a job were you would use 16mm.
the American kit comes with punches for 1/2" to 2" in conduit size increments. for a bit extra, I also got a cutter for 3" conduit. (note the punches are sized in conduit size, not in actual dimension so, for example, the 2" die is actually 2.5"
wow, what a lot of faff! If you have to pilot the hole with a cone cutter, why not just follow through? By the time you have set up the tool you could have deburred the hole with a file or deburring tool!! Nah not for me thanks, I just bought a set of cone cutters from Aldi for £4
@@efixx I have to say they really aren't bad! I bought a set of 3 well over a year ago and I was using them daily and they are just starting to dull now. For £4 I'd stock up haha! Great content guys.
@@kenbrown2808 Cool man! If you use a tool like this for an application like that then 100% totally worth it. In my experience the average spark cuts 20, 25 or 32mm in to metal which the cone cutters do.
@@chrishatton8197 i do carry a step bit in my toolbox, but i use it more on plastic than metal. Most of our metal boxes are prepunched, so we simply knock the slug out by hitting it with a tool. If i have to drill a many conduit holes, it's worth the bother to grab my can cutting bit that i carry in my punch kit. Much better tool for the task than a step bit or a hole saw.
£1'000 excluding VAT ... ?? Q-MAX plus an impact driver (which we all already have) & you're good to go... I love my fancy tools as much as the next guy, but I don't believe in pissin away good money for no good reason... 🙄😏
A hydraulic punch has just the same punches, does the same job and at a fraction of the price. Unless your making hundreds of holes every day then this is OTT.
We know what you are thinking a hole saw or step cutter is better - see what happened next 👉 ruclips.net/video/7rrn1A9Hv1k/видео.html
When I've used hydraulic punches I use the 20mm punch to create the hole for the larger shank required for the larger punches removing the need for a cone step drill or hole saw which is particularly important on stainless. This mean you only need to drill a 12mm hole for even the biggest of punches where drill bits like Sutton's Inox drill bits would speed up the process nicely.
All great points so thanks for commenting 👍🏻
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A great tool, but a bit too pricey for me. I make do with Q-Max punches and an impact driver.
Milwaukee do a similar looking tool for stripping large cables. It would be interesting to know if they work on cables here.
I had a set of "hole punch" dies ( Called I think Crookes Cutters?), drilled a 10mm hole, and used an Allen key adaptor on my battery drill to wind them through the metal, nice clean hole, no filing afterwards.
We used to use them - we’ll try to find an equivalent to review.
Q max were the ones I always used, just brand names though I suppose
Should of kept going with the cone cutter, job done 🤣
It certainly would have been quicker, it was a lot of faff wasn’t it?
But if you’re doing hundreds .
I have one at work, great for cutting stainless steel and aluminium
I used something similar to that 20 years ago, it was a hydraulic version with a side pump arm. Brilliant bit of kit for panel work, but to warrant buying one you need to be working on panels or on on industrial installations all the time 💰👍
Lucky you with the hydraulic version - we had the one which used Allen keys!
@@efixx WHAT!!! That must have been a nightmare to use!!🥵🤣
Paid by the hour
Always found the Q max punches great for enlarging a existing 20mm hole in enclosures / trunking into a 25mm or more. Yes they were handraulic with a extended allen key. I'm retired now but still have them in my tool box...you never know?
Handraulic - we’ll use that 😂😂
And Q-max punches are square/rectangle & even D-shaped punches!
Punch cutter is better than any hole saw or cone drill any day.. it’s the only one able do make a clean cut. that one is good if you spend your days doing holes otherwise the manual ones do the job and are cheap if you have to punch a few every now and then. And to be fair I probably wouldn’t bother with that whole process till it goes above 25mm or it’s stainless.. The hole saw from that kit cutting the stainless will probably go in the bin after.
Great video. I've always been an advocate of large, smooth holes.
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Excellent tool guys, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for commenting 👍🏻
This will be great when drilling a hole for a new supply cable in trunking with already present live cable for other flat. Always been anxious and supercarefull not hit the live ones with the holesaw.
Cracking stuff gents
Massive thanks 🙌🏻
First used the ratchet type working in Canada and loved it. This tool would save some time on trunking and board work
great bit of kit 👍👍👍
Might try making a few more holes 🕳 in the brookie burner.
Yeah a bit rich for me i was taught with the good old tried n trusted hole saw.. & a file im so up for new ways of making the sparkie life easier loving your work guys every video is like a day on the job aka a school day....👏👍
That's a nice niche tool. I wish they done step/cone/xmas tree drills in odd mm sizes too.
Great tool if you’ve got to create many precise holes in steel or stainless. On the rare occasions we have to do this sort of thing it’d be invaluable, but none of us like having expansive tools not out there earning their keep. I haven’t seen the price but I’m sure it’s not for the faint-hearted!! As far as the Milwonky goes - I have the 125mm cordless bandsaw (which I think is what you’re referring to) and it definitely takes a bit of practice to get it spot on but once you’re used to it it is magic. Wouldn’t use a disc cutter now unless I absolutely had to.
not only does the US kit have more punches for less money, our ball adaptor is an interrupted thread connection, so if you're doing a bunch of the same size hole, you just pop the adaptor off with a one third turn to clear the slugs.
Must say when I had a little play with it when last up, got to say nice piece of kit for commercial / industrial sparks. The only issue I found was there was no 38mm punch. Yes a 40mm punch, but with today's 38mm bushes the hole was to big IMHO. Great review guys, see you soon !!
Thanks Eddie
I can think of two scenarios. 1. Not enough space for a drill and step cutter; 2. You can damage the contents of the box with the step cutter (RCBOs, wires, etc).
Nice video. The Australian one we use at work goes up to 63mm
Cheers 🍻
makes sense if your punching a load of holes at one time bit of a pain in the arse having to use a drill so you can use the punch tool to begin with. maybe someone can come up with a quick release tool that punches the starting hole or even an adapter that doesn't require a starting hole to be drilled.
All great points 👍🏻. Tomorrow this tool goes head to head with a Mandrex electricians hole saw kit.. should be interesting 🤔
I did a lot of work in one car factory and they classed using hole saws as hot work. We had the old punches which can be hard work.
Interesting that they classed hole saws as hot work 👍
It may have been a precaution against a previous accident.
Awesome tool, however after few years of usage it starts to leak oil, I was not able to find a seal kit and Milwaukee repair center wants more then the tool itself for the repair.
Great bit of kit! I’m sure it has it uses somewhere but very long winded
I hope you mean the tool is long winded - not our review! 😂😂
@@efixx 😂😂😂 not at all! I love this channel!! I could of drilled 15 holes tho by the time that has done one
That’s the perfect tool for those who like having there tools nicked or there vans broken into
Then having a view day’s off work wile you wait for the insurance company to pay out .
Good idea 👍
Great video guy’s as always .
Nice tool though despite my negative comment just can’t understand why you would spend a load of money for something that is likely to get nicked .
Great for manufacturing, or larger holes I would say
Agree 👍🏻
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Great video thank you . Does the slug and trunking get hot from the press tool. A little disappointed that it doesn't come with the 2 inch press as standard but comes with 16mm.Out of interest why have they including a 16mm. I can't think of a job were you would use 16mm.
No heat in the punching process. They haven’t included the 50mm because they sell it for £60 - 16mm will rust away in the box 📦
the American kit comes with punches for 1/2" to 2" in conduit size increments. for a bit extra, I also got a cutter for 3" conduit. (note the punches are sized in conduit size, not in actual dimension so, for example, the 2" die is actually 2.5"
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Would this tool sort that thin metal stud. To run pipe work.
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We’ll bring it over with us
@@efixx Hahaahahah😂😂😂
How much for this model
wow, what a lot of faff! If you have to pilot the hole with a cone cutter, why not just follow through? By the time you have set up the tool you could have deburred the hole with a file or deburring tool!! Nah not for me thanks, I just bought a set of cone cutters from Aldi for £4
Sounds like a bargain from the central isle - let us know who they stack up.
@@efixx I have to say they really aren't bad! I bought a set of 3 well over a year ago and I was using them daily and they are just starting to dull now. For £4 I'd stock up haha! Great content guys.
@@chrishatton8197 do they cut clear up to 88.9mm? because that's one of the key sizes I use mine for.
@@kenbrown2808 Cool man! If you use a tool like this for an application like that then 100% totally worth it. In my experience the average spark cuts 20, 25 or 32mm in to metal which the cone cutters do.
@@chrishatton8197 i do carry a step bit in my toolbox, but i use it more on plastic than metal. Most of our metal boxes are prepunched, so we simply knock the slug out by hitting it with a tool. If i have to drill a many conduit holes, it's worth the bother to grab my can cutting bit that i carry in my punch kit. Much better tool for the task than a step bit or a hole saw.
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£1'000 excluding VAT ... ??
Q-MAX plus an impact driver (which we all already have) & you're good to go...
I love my fancy tools as much as the next guy, but I don't believe in pissin away good money for no good reason... 🙄😏
A hydraulic punch has just the same punches, does the same job and at a fraction of the price.
Unless your making hundreds of holes every day then this is OTT.
Nice but no one has that much time in their hands when u working
11.1mm is a 7/16ths of a millimetre hole it being an American tool...
£1000 ??????!!!!!?!?!?!!?!!!??!!!! Haaaaaahaahaaaaaa.
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Tomorrow it goes head to head with an electricians hole saw kit 👍🏻
that's a lot. the US kit is $1000.00 which would be around 600 pounds.
So your drilling a hole anyways, so what's the point in this overpriced piece of rubbish?
Comes in to its own for larger holes in stainless