The renault Zoe is currently the third car sold in france ! TOP 3 and the electric vehicle represent 8 % of the car market. 2020 is really the beginning of a new area for EV . It is booming
You want more legroom in the rear? Buy a used limo like mine. Cheap these days! Not much good if you live in a shoebox apartment, so buy a spread as well!
One essential point that wasn't covered is the relationship between driving and range. For example on the motorway what sort of cruising speed would you need to keep to in order to achieve the maximum range.
This looks like a real winner. They should bring it to the US, we really don't have something comparable here (everything is faster and more expensive). The 135hp Zoe is fast enough and a more reasonable price and is very efficient (better than 4.5mi/kWh by my calculations). I have a Chevy Bolt with 200hp and really, its overpowered (I have raced a Camaro multiple times and won every time). I don't need a car that beats a Camaro, I'd be happy with the Zoe's performance.
Exactly, I wasn't sure about this review after the driving position comments earlier on. However, the "even the 135 isn't like a Tesla and you are not pinned in the seat" comment was the point I abandoned this review. Clearly the bloke thinks everyone drives like him and is obsessed with power and speed.
Exactly, I'm researching EVs ATM and I don't get that selling point, I'm not Jeremy Clarkson, I'll seldom go over 100KMPH as most my driving is in a congested city.
Of course it undercuts the e-Niro, Leaf and e-Golf, it's a class lower in size. Also, and I don't mean to be too picky, but that looked like a decent amount of leg room to me.
- Only 50KW fast charger. - No water cooling - High consumption at high speed, because its high ~1.56(like city SUV). + High ride , because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
@@soundslave I think it uses the cabin air conditioning compressor, with the previous 2 versions you couldn't use climate control while charging as the battery was prioritised
@@olivergunn2796 - yes, you may use the climate control under certain conditions. Use the preheating/cooling feature during charging. Fully possible. In the first versions it had to have at least 50% charged battery and from R90 25% to work. But it is possible. There's so much "fake news" around.... And yes the battery is actively aircooled.
Soft touch plastics suck! We had a VW Golf Mk IV and an Audi A4 B6 in the family and the smooth platic areas got all gooey after 5+ years. I have been in other relatively premium old cars and the smooth pastic areas are usually the ones that degrade more over time. The hard plastics usually last longer, as long as they are not so crappy that they harden and shatter.
@@pedroalbuquerquebs I agree. I have had two Honda Jazzes (Fit) and the plastics are hard, but good quality, and have never degraded or deformed (or scratched). I had a BMW and it was a mess after three years - and I'm careful.
haha, the self-proclaimed internet car specialist noob..... they don't like hard plastic because it looks and feels cheap, but they all love the 'soft-touch plastic' WICH IS CHEAPER TO MAKE
My wife and I are aiming to lease a Mii as our first electric car and buy a Zoe as our second. What Car? is appealing to me even more with the 9:40 synthwave vibes
Had 2015 Zoe for 2 yrs great car loved it but advertised 150 miles but realistically only 75. Headlights and heater were bad but everything else was great. Now got Leaf but preferred Zoe.
So much cheaper, more practical, simpler and better looking than any Tesla, One of the first EV's I've seen worth considering. I'd only go for the base model though, throwing £thousands extra at EVs tends to defeat the point on both cost and environmental grounds.
@@nadimahmed8485 It is funny people seem to love cars that rank close to bottom in reliability! Even Nissan wants to dump Renault and get back to making Nissan a reliable brand again.
@@gregandkaruna6674 I guess that Nissan has just a bit of memory glitch - they were the ones going bankrupt and needed help a long time ago. But hey - if you want to buy Renault for more money - buy Nissan.
@@janisvaskevics93 Renault only helped in money, the quality of the cars went down fast with crap parts in both Nissan and Renault. Nissan was doomed even with Renault's help. That Ghosn stripped Nissan of its quality, Nissan just forgot how to make exciting cars. But now under new leadership just like Toyota they are going back to making cool cars and in Nissan's case trying to win back the trust of its customers.
Why I brought up the problem of driver only testing - Bought a Suzuki Ignis in 2018 & if reviews had been done with a full load it would have been noticed that the car bottomed out even on minor motorway undulations. The vehicle also edited a loud cracking noise on full lock, identified to wrong grease on half shafts, also replaced by Suzuki. Problem since rectified by Suzuki with new coil springs and bump stops, but only if owners complain - so a lot of vehicles will go past warranty without getting rectified since they are not considered safety recalls - What car did later identify first problem on a long term test
@@bournvilleman Because the Zoe lacks autonomous features even no adaptive cruise control! And legendary Renault reliability lol that was a joke. The MG gets a 7 year warranty, so yeah do not mention or compare that!
Problem with the ZOE is they are using the old Clio floorpan and it is not a purpose built electric car starting with the chassis. They have put the batteries under the seats which means you can't lower the driver's seat if you are tall and the back seats don't fold down properly to give a reasonably flat load surface. I have decided to wait for the more expensive, slightly larger externally but much more internally spacious ID3. I am looking to replace a diesel Skoda Fabia and the replacement vehicle has to give at least as much space inside for 4 people and also be an easy to use and practical load carrier when the back seats are folded down.
After viewing this What Car review, I suggest you check out the What Car EV reliability review. Zoe didn't do too well. Mourn the loss of manual infinitely variable handbrake..where you can feel it working. On/off switch? No thanks. 84mph top speed. I can think of scenarios where that is a problem
Like,... when you're breaking the law? On a road where 70mph is the legal limit, why is 84 a problem? All cars will be limited to the speed limit in a couple of years anyway.
@@timaustin2000 bet you can think of a rare scenario where you need a quick blast of speed to get out of a situation. Yes it is breaking the law, but it's also the lesser of two evils.
If you look at other RUclips videos of the ZE50, you'll find that the "rapid DC" 50kW charging capabilities never actually hit 50kW. It's 45kW max in most cases and tails off from 55% charge to 80% 45kW to 27kW. Given that the cheapest CCS version is advertised for £27,920, it really is poor value. The headline £25,670 price doesn't come with CCS, just 22kW AC. Whilst it's a lovely little car in some areas, Renault need to drop the price by about £10k across the board on Zoe otherwise it's just not a wise cash purchase right now. If Dacia made an electric Duster with 150 mile range and this charging setup (50kW CCS + 22kW Chamelion AC) for £18k to £20k they would be onto a winner.
How would they recoup costs that dont hurt the consumer? In reality it would be nice but you're asking too much of a price drop. This isnt a PS4 sold at a loss.
I rented a Zoe and my impressions went downhill when I opened the door. I mean it's an electric car with futuristic looks, I was hoping for a nice interior. It was bad. And I mean BAD bad. Quality was in the same level as a 2011 Nissan Micra. Nice to see they just refreshed it with nicer materials and better infotainment. Car drives nice for a 90hp carrying 1.5 tons.
You can't expect amazing things, It's a very cheap car in its class. Mine cost me only £13000.... can't really complain for that price really for such a bar setting EV hatchback 4 years ago...
I had this very first version in 2013, the 22 kWh and... i loved the interior ! I loved the "windmill wing" as a dash, the "monobloc" seats and that you have close to not one visible gadgets or useless buttons, but a full lcd dash plus a multitouch big screen. There was a bit of Model3 in this design. Lately the entry model was much less equipped with no screen and infotainment ... perhaps it's the one you tried ? Whatever, the new one is totally different inside.
I wish that the person that does these auto evaluations would at least give their height and possibly weight so that we could get a better idea of how we would fit the car.
The 50kW DC fast charge on the Zoe and Chevy Bolt is such a limiting factor on this car. I really wish the 2019,2020 was at minimum 75kW with a battery pack this large. The charging curve is also insane... >65% and that 50kW drops to ~28kW.
My experience is that most of my fast charging has been "splash and dash" - IE, needing an extra 30-40 miles to get home. 50KW does fine with that. Indeed, 22KW does fine with that. Only ever stopped for more than 20 minues twice in a year on motorways with my ZE40 Zoe,... at 22KW. Bjorn's tests aren't particularly "real world". Who goes 1000km in a day?
I hate using terms like “man’s car” or “woman’s car”, but I genuinely do feel that Zoe is more designed for ladies of a smaller build. While I’ve got a friend who’s about 6ft tall driving one, he shares the drive with Mrs, whose noticeably a smaller build, and and sitting higher up would be a confidence-inspiring driving position for many. Maybe not my taste, but the fact that Zoe being a smaller car by dimension but still enough room on the inside is a winner, not to mention the more affordable price
Having done some research. I gather that the fabric finish has been discontinued as it has proved vulnerable to tearing. Existing U.K. orders will be compensated with a free boot tidy.
Looks as though I should update my 2016 battery owned Zoe for a new one! It hasn't been without problems though, including out of order for three weeks waiting parts - but all dealt with and a hire car under warranty.
@@johnfaulkner6776 thanks John that's really helpful. I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf. The range is terrible but, like the reliability surveys keep showing, it's the most reliable car I've ever had by miles. If I could just find an EV with better range & similar reliability I'd be happy!
These are still pre production vehicles that why made a batch of for dealers to get pre orders. I don't think the car is going to be out for another month or so
Hi, Useful vidéo as I have a 2020 Intens. Helpful info,. BTW, there is an accessories for the trunk which hides the cables. I Would like a video on the complex remote heating system. I’m baffled as to how to program it from home. All the best, Richard
Issues with the App meant remote heat control wasn't yet available..Hearing in August 2020 that a dealer visit might be needed for a fix for early cars..Later cars would have had the fix in production.
I took my 6' brother,his wife,and their 2 (preteen) kids to the airport in my Zoe 40 after last christmas..and their luggage in the boot..how big do you want?
I'm 6'2 and had to sit in one to make sure my head fit. Unfortunately my eye comes in line with the top of the window... Rediculous why they don't have a height adjuster as everything else with the car was perfect for my needs. Or even just raise the front windscreen by an inche so I can actually see traffic lights when I pull up to a junction. Not have to stick my head out the door window
If you want clean air to breathe then go all electric. No noise, no emissions, less fuel costs and less maintenance costs. Gas and diesel vehicles are old polluting technology.
neither, side airbags not included (I think) which makes it an insanely unsafe car. If you want a Zoe, get the old gen, they had good proper side airbags
silly question, it has 5 doors and you can see the rear interior door handles in the vid but what about outside , do you have to open front and put your in the bac to open it
The exterior rear door handles are located in the bottom rear corner of the windows. Look closely at 00:14 and you'll see that there's a triangle shaped corner of black plastic above the rear wheel. That's the handle. I think you press the small finger sized indent to pop out the rest of the handle, and then use it like a normal handle.
@@margaretforrest6110 Hello Margaret! That's not true, there are many different miles. In the past every region,maybe even every village had their own version of a mile! Haha times were crazy when people still used those units 🍄
The issue with the new Zoe and it’s bigger battery pack is the inability to charge at a higher rate. That means it’s slower to fill up the bigger battery.
No mention of assisted driving? I understand this car is in the lower-priced category but this is where the future is so doesn't bode well for Renault.
At 4:57 please identify where that charger in the middle of the road is located, that will come in very handy when all the various motorway and mainstream charger facilities are offline and /or busted! Can’t understand why every road is laden with them. Also is it really necessary to be holding and waving a charger around, we get it, it’s electric.
The more you drive, the more you save. Found an older article about the R90 Zoe and the cost per mile was about 52.2p. Depends a bit how you charge etc. naturally. This is with residuals etc. counted in. It's cheaper than petrol after probably like 30 miles a day driving.
For my current Zoe I pay £0.05 per kWhr overnight, so worst case example of 3 miles per kWhr works out at £0.016 per mile, compared to about £0.15 per mile in a 40 MPG petrol car.
@@johannesbekker1970 yeah for sure, it does rely on being able to charge from home and swapping to an overnight tariff with a company like Octopus Energy. If you relied on public rapid charging then it could get up to £0.10 per mile. Quite often workplaces and some car parks offer free slow charging, which makes the £ per mile even less. Also remember that a lot of the cost of petrol is tax, home electricity is only 8% VAT in comparison.
The best? The only annoying thing is driving position? The shutdown procedure alone takes some learning to do it. Big screen is not necessary nor easy to deal with. The buttons are littered everywhere and it is hard to find them. There are plenty cars on the market, that are more user-friendly. But knowing the company it comes from... You should stop experimenting Renault!
I'm still not sure if the leased battery would work for my driving. it appears expensive on paper. But I don't know If it would work out better than buying fuel?
My Renault’s battery lost 25% capacity at 45000 kms , 35% at 65000 kms... And Renault still resists to accept its own warranty promise for the battery since then... A car is Nothing without a proper service.
Have a look at an entry level EV the Renault K-ZE, nice mini SUV under $9,999 with 250 km range. Good to see some decent, under 10K over 250 km EV's coming on. This is what we need.
But remember that under 250 km is getting close to the 30kWh Leaf. That's around 5 years too late for the target market. People want 300 km to 325 km range, so that town drivers can recharge weekly, and main road drivers aren’t stopping to recharge for ⅓ of the total journey time.
As long as some EVs have an absolute ridiculous driving position - such as the Zoe or the Ampera-E - it will never get mainstream. I want to sit in a car, not on top of it.
Active air cooled. Uses the AirCon unit to blow pre-cooled air through the pack while charging. Not the most high tech way of doing it but better than the Leaf and the Zoe ZE40's batteries are showing up as very reliable, with very little degradation at all.
E208 is faster and it has intelligent cruise control, in GT trim at least. Can't get that on the Zoe. Zoe will probably go a fraction further but you have to pay extra on the Zoe for rapid CCS charging, which is kind of weird. Just sat in an e208 this afternoon. It was a beautiful car but I think the Zoe has a little more leg room in the back.
Oh, and from what I've heard I think the Zoe is probably comfier and the e208 is setup to be a little more sporty, but I've read it can feel a bit harsh.
@@cable1722 thank you. yeah at slower speed 208 is apparently bit figitty! Will check on reviews again and wait for more review and get test rides of both. 208 looks more sporty but don't understand why they have a drive shaft tunnel in middle when it's suppose to be electric, wasted space. Even new focus has lower floor in middle of rear than many electric vehicles. If both cars are good enough in general then as a new car buy I would go for the Zoe for that bit of extra range! I would spec it more sporty to differentiate from unisex appearance.
@@112deeps the e208 is definitely tight for space. I couldn't get my 8 year old behind me in car seat. Leg room just too tight. I'm sure you'd be happy with either but I'd choose the e208 if space wasn't the issue. Zoe if I needed the practicality.
Robert Hirsch It’s not better in every category since I’ve been inside both of them, but anyway, it looks like a whale compared to the Zoe and I don’t want a whale, because I don’t know where to park it, for starters. I’m living in a big city and I won’t park it as easily as a Zoe. And why on earth I would want a car that weights 1,725 kilos -at least- just to move my fat ass? Then, there’s the somehow superficial but not forgettable issue that Tesla owners in my city are dicks, since they use the space between traffic lights to make drag races to their wives to show them how fast it accelerates, ignoring zebra crossings and other signals. Two of them almost ran me over.
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But hey! Sitting high up is what made me love the ZOE! It is the only car I feel good driving in, being used to my Scenic.
These Journalists want every car to feel sporty.
Good for short ladies; maybe that's the market they have targeted.
Try a tesla
@@altinocunha3074 Have, and liked Zoe more for what I need in a car.
@@leebougz - yes, very one-dimensional thinking.
The renault Zoe is currently the third car sold in france ! TOP 3 and the electric vehicle represent 8 % of the car market. 2020 is really the beginning of a new area for EV . It is booming
Legroom in rear not particularity impressive?!? You got like, 7" clear space infront of your knees as you sit, how much more do you need?
You want more legroom in the rear? Buy a used limo like mine. Cheap these days! Not much good if you live in a shoebox apartment, so buy a spread as well!
Depends how tall he is though.
They are journalists...
He is 165cm though
I drive a Zoe and I am pleased with it. Great drivning experience.
Hi, do you still have the Zoe? If so how do you find it? Any issues?
I was impressed with the "physical dials" and the customisable dash that shows things "like speed". Progress!
I was also amazed it came with wheels and a windscreen
I'm very impressed with French stuff ... Dude is impressive too. Congrats ;)
0:12 From 300km to 394km in normal units.
One essential point that wasn't covered is the relationship between driving and range. For example on the motorway what sort of cruising speed would you need to keep to in order to achieve the maximum range.
As slow as possible with EVs. Probably can’t go less than 60 without losing your mind
I’ve driven Zoe’s often. Fantastic car which I’ll probably buy when they become a little more affordable!
Here is your time! They have halved in value in 3 years 😱
13k right now for a 2021 near me. Think its time to throw the petrol away and get an EV! @@MaddocHarrison
This looks like a real winner. They should bring it to the US, we really don't have something comparable here (everything is faster and more expensive). The 135hp Zoe is fast enough and a more reasonable price and is very efficient (better than 4.5mi/kWh by my calculations).
I have a Chevy Bolt with 200hp and really, its overpowered (I have raced a Camaro multiple times and won every time). I don't need a car that beats a Camaro, I'd be happy with the Zoe's performance.
Sees license plate: "nice".
Iiès, Ze 69 iz best.
Why does he expect Tesla acceleration and to be pinned back into his seat? It’s a Renault Zoe...
Exactly, I wasn't sure about this review after the driving position comments earlier on. However, the "even the 135 isn't like a Tesla and you are not pinned in the seat" comment was the point I abandoned this review. Clearly the bloke thinks everyone drives like him and is obsessed with power and speed.
He can't have tried A Zoe or any other non Tesla EV at the lights...
Exactly, I'm researching EVs ATM and I don't get that selling point, I'm not Jeremy Clarkson, I'll seldom go over 100KMPH as most my driving is in a congested city.
I love the higher up seating.
Of course it undercuts the e-Niro, Leaf and e-Golf, it's a class lower in size. Also, and I don't mean to be too picky, but that looked like a decent amount of leg room to me.
- Only 50KW fast charger.
- No water cooling
- High consumption at high speed, because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
+ High ride , because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
It has "active cooling" but what does that mean?
@@soundslave I think it uses the cabin air conditioning compressor, with the previous 2 versions you couldn't use climate control while charging as the battery was prioritised
@@olivergunn2796 - yes, you may use the climate control under certain conditions. Use the preheating/cooling feature during charging. Fully possible. In the first versions it had to have at least 50% charged battery and from R90 25% to work. But it is possible. There's so much "fake news" around.... And yes the battery is actively aircooled.
@@soundslave - yes, it has active air cooling. That's why it has only 50 kW charging CCS and not higher. But no Rapidgate like Nissan Leaf.
Whenever this comes in India it will break all records
i drive the old zoe, and i love it :)
Me too, I have now my second Zoe, a R90 and before that the first version Q210. I have driven about 100000 miles in my Zoes :)
Car reviewers' obession with soft-touch plastics ......
And sporty seating position.
Soft touch plastics suck! We had a VW Golf Mk IV and an Audi A4 B6 in the family and the smooth platic areas got all gooey after 5+ years. I have been in other relatively premium old cars and the smooth pastic areas are usually the ones that degrade more over time. The hard plastics usually last longer, as long as they are not so crappy that they harden and shatter.
@@pedroalbuquerquebs I agree. I have had two Honda Jazzes (Fit) and the plastics are hard, but good quality, and have never degraded or deformed (or scratched). I had a BMW and it was a mess after three years - and I'm careful.
Totally agree why the obsession with soft plastics !?
haha, the self-proclaimed internet car specialist noob..... they don't like hard plastic because it looks and feels cheap, but they all love the 'soft-touch plastic' WICH IS CHEAPER TO MAKE
My wife and I are aiming to lease a Mii as our first electric car and buy a Zoe as our second.
What Car? is appealing to me even more with the 9:40 synthwave vibes
Had 2015 Zoe for 2 yrs great car loved it but advertised 150 miles but realistically only 75. Headlights and heater were bad but everything else was great. Now got Leaf but preferred Zoe.
Was heater expensive to fix?
Well don’t get a new Zoe (new gen) cuz side airbags
Looks like a great little car, The high seating position is a good thing imo. Only thing I don't like is the cloth trim on the dash.
Waiting for it to be launched in India.. Renault cars are always reliable
So much cheaper, more practical, simpler and better looking than any Tesla, One of the first EV's I've seen worth considering. I'd only go for the base model though, throwing £thousands extra at EVs tends to defeat the point on both cost and environmental grounds.
I am very impressed with French cars lately
Harry Murray-Jones I have never been impressed with french cars
@@nadimahmed8485 It is funny people seem to love cars that rank close to bottom in reliability! Even Nissan wants to dump Renault and get back to making Nissan a reliable brand again.
@@gregandkaruna6674 renault has a better reliability than nissan according to UK reliability index www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
@@gregandkaruna6674 I guess that Nissan has just a bit of memory glitch - they were the ones going bankrupt and needed help a long time ago. But hey - if you want to buy Renault for more money - buy Nissan.
@@janisvaskevics93 Renault only helped in money, the quality of the cars went down fast with crap parts in both Nissan and Renault. Nissan was doomed even with Renault's help. That Ghosn stripped Nissan of its quality, Nissan just forgot how to make exciting cars. But now under new leadership just like Toyota they are going back to making cool cars and in Nissan's case trying to win back the trust of its customers.
wow it is beautiful, you should sell it in the USA! I have never heard of the brand before here in America.
Renault is a French brand that is actually big in Europe and Latin America.
Renault used to sell in the USA back in the 80s.
Why I brought up the problem of driver only testing - Bought a Suzuki Ignis in 2018 & if reviews had been done with a full load it would have been noticed that the car bottomed out even on minor motorway undulations. The vehicle also edited a loud cracking noise on full lock, identified to wrong grease on half shafts, also replaced by Suzuki. Problem since rectified by Suzuki with new coil springs and bump stops, but only if owners complain - so a lot of vehicles will go past warranty without getting rectified since they are not considered safety recalls - What car did later identify first problem on a long term test
Proper modern European compact car. Like it very much. Please don't mention MG in the same sentence with ZOE.
Why?
@@bournvilleman Because the Zoe lacks autonomous features even no adaptive cruise control! And legendary Renault reliability lol that was a joke. The MG gets a 7 year warranty, so yeah do not mention or compare that!
What is MG?
@@mihnealazar7039 Do something maybe a little complicated for you and type MG into Google duh!
@@gregandkaruna6674 i have one, do you?
Nice and slick presentation!
I've heard there are shortfalls in the safety rating. Is that right?
Thanks, I’ll be getting one of those as soon as I can afford it after lockdown.
Problem with the ZOE is they are using the old Clio floorpan and it is not a purpose built electric car starting with the chassis. They have put the batteries under the seats which means you can't lower the driver's seat if you are tall and the back seats don't fold down properly to give a reasonably flat load surface. I have decided to wait for the more expensive, slightly larger externally but much more internally spacious ID3. I am looking to replace a diesel Skoda Fabia and the replacement vehicle has to give at least as much space inside for 4 people and also be an easy to use and practical load carrier when the back seats are folded down.
After viewing this What Car review, I suggest you check out the What Car EV reliability review.
Zoe didn't do too well.
Mourn the loss of manual infinitely variable handbrake..where you can feel it working. On/off switch? No thanks.
84mph top speed. I can think of scenarios where that is a problem
Like,... when you're breaking the law? On a road where 70mph is the legal limit, why is 84 a problem? All cars will be limited to the speed limit in a couple of years anyway.
@@timaustin2000 bet you can think of a rare scenario where you need a quick blast of speed to get out of a situation. Yes it is breaking the law, but it's also the lesser of two evils.
good job by renault team...awesome!!! super excited
Got one ordered for May. Lookin' forward to it.
How do you like it now?
Probs didn't get i
If you look at other RUclips videos of the ZE50, you'll find that the "rapid DC" 50kW charging capabilities never actually hit 50kW. It's 45kW max in most cases and tails off from 55% charge to 80% 45kW to 27kW. Given that the cheapest CCS version is advertised for £27,920, it really is poor value. The headline £25,670 price doesn't come with CCS, just 22kW AC.
Whilst it's a lovely little car in some areas, Renault need to drop the price by about £10k across the board on Zoe otherwise it's just not a wise cash purchase right now.
If Dacia made an electric Duster with 150 mile range and this charging setup (50kW CCS + 22kW Chamelion AC) for £18k to £20k they would be onto a winner.
How would they recoup costs that dont hurt the consumer? In reality it would be nice but you're asking too much of a price drop. This isnt a PS4 sold at a loss.
Love the colour - it's sometimes blue sometimes green!?? .cool
Had the first Zoe for 2 years. Woeful car. In the garage for weeks on end. Really put me off purchasing another electric car
People say the car has improved greatly.
@@DanRyzESPUK It should have been right from the start. Basically an electric Clio,which is a great car
I rented a Zoe and my impressions went downhill when I opened the door. I mean it's an electric car with futuristic looks, I was hoping for a nice interior. It was bad. And I mean BAD bad. Quality was in the same level as a 2011 Nissan Micra.
Nice to see they just refreshed it with nicer materials and better infotainment. Car drives nice for a 90hp carrying 1.5 tons.
You can't expect amazing things, It's a very cheap car in its class. Mine cost me only £13000.... can't really complain for that price really for such a bar setting EV hatchback 4 years ago...
I had this very first version in 2013, the 22 kWh and... i loved the interior ! I loved the "windmill wing" as a dash, the "monobloc" seats and that you have close to not one visible gadgets or useless buttons, but a full lcd dash plus a multitouch big screen.
There was a bit of Model3 in this design.
Lately the entry model was much less equipped with no screen and infotainment ... perhaps it's the one you tried ?
Whatever, the new one is totally different inside.
I wish that the person that does these auto evaluations would at least give their height and possibly weight so that we could get a better idea of how we would fit the car.
The 50kW DC fast charge on the Zoe and Chevy Bolt is such a limiting factor on this car. I really wish the 2019,2020 was at minimum 75kW with a battery pack this large. The charging curve is also insane... >65% and that 50kW drops to ~28kW.
My experience is that most of my fast charging has been "splash and dash" - IE, needing an extra 30-40 miles to get home. 50KW does fine with that. Indeed, 22KW does fine with that. Only ever stopped for more than 20 minues twice in a year on motorways with my ZE40 Zoe,... at 22KW. Bjorn's tests aren't particularly "real world". Who goes 1000km in a day?
How does it stack up against the e208?
More range than the e208, but the latter has faster charging.
Please review the id3 when released for comparison to thezoe and leaf 64kw
I hate using terms like “man’s car” or “woman’s car”, but I genuinely do feel that Zoe is more designed for ladies of a smaller build.
While I’ve got a friend who’s about 6ft tall driving one, he shares the drive with Mrs, whose noticeably a smaller build, and and sitting higher up would be a confidence-inspiring driving position for many.
Maybe not my taste, but the fact that Zoe being a smaller car by dimension but still enough room on the inside is a winner, not to mention the more affordable price
Always more important than the distance between your knees and the front seats is whether your feet fit under the front seats.
Having done some research. I gather that the fabric finish has been discontinued as it has proved vulnerable to tearing. Existing U.K. orders will be compensated with a free boot tidy.
A beautiful little car. Not too expensive.
Looks as though I should update my 2016 battery owned Zoe for a new one! It hasn't been without problems though, including out of order for three weeks waiting parts - but all dealt with and a hire car under warranty.
What problems did it have please? I'm considering buying but people mention reliability issues
@@johnfaulkner6776 thanks John that's really helpful. I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf. The range is terrible but, like the reliability surveys keep showing, it's the most reliable car I've ever had by miles. If I could just find an EV with better range & similar reliability I'd be happy!
3:24 legroom isn’t impressive ???
This is a UK review so why is the steering wheel on the left side?
These are still pre production vehicles that why made a batch of for dealers to get pre orders. I don't think the car is going to be out for another month or so
Best car ever I have seen . When will this car come to India
Nice car👍 But that you can‘t adjust the seats in height is not good
Very true I didn't get last rendition because of this and I am disappointed they didn't fix this with new Zoe
they can't because some of the batteries are under the front seat.
The issue is it has 1 star for safety, due to having no air bags in the back? Is this bad?
left-hand-drive? not from the UK?
UK voted OUT of Europe, what else do you want?
The UK demo cars for the press release were LHD cars which were on sale in Europe-RHD models are on the way now..
R110 or R135 motors? But which is most efficient in it's conversion of electrical energy to mechanical energy?
No height adjustment for the seat? Did I hear that correctly?
Same as every other Zoe...
Hi, Useful vidéo as I have a 2020 Intens. Helpful info,. BTW, there is an accessories for the trunk which hides the cables.
I Would like a video on the complex remote heating system. I’m baffled as to how to program it from home.
All the best, Richard
Issues with the App meant remote heat control wasn't yet available..Hearing in August 2020 that a dealer visit might be needed for a fix for early cars..Later cars would have had the fix in production.
Hi um could you recommend any electric cars that is good for a family of 5??!!
I took my 6' brother,his wife,and their 2 (preteen) kids to the airport in my Zoe 40 after last christmas..and their luggage in the boot..how big do you want?
What place was that in the uk?
I'm 6'2 and had to sit in one to make sure my head fit. Unfortunately my eye comes in line with the top of the window...
Rediculous why they don't have a height adjuster as everything else with the car was perfect for my needs. Or even just raise the front windscreen by an inche so I can actually see traffic lights when I pull up to a junction. Not have to stick my head out the door window
How come your test result is just the Average of the two summer and winter range of the car?
When will the US get a affordable car for the masses ..👽👀
It's beyond overdue
Never
Trump is designing 1 but it’s powered by clean Coal. 😂
@@buddha1736 And built with Space Force included.
@Quix Not even close.
If you want clean air to breathe then go all electric.
No noise, no emissions, less fuel costs and less maintenance costs.
Gas and diesel vehicles are old polluting technology.
should i get a renault zone 2021 life or a 2020 november model intense ? same price both
neither, side airbags not included (I think) which makes it an insanely unsafe car. If you want a Zoe, get the old gen, they had good proper side airbags
silly question, it has 5 doors and you can see the rear interior door handles in the vid but what about outside , do you have to open front and put your in the bac to open it
The exterior rear door handles are located in the bottom rear corner of the windows. Look closely at 00:14 and you'll see that there's a triangle shaped corner of black plastic above the rear wheel. That's the handle. I think you press the small finger sized indent to pop out the rest of the handle, and then use it like a normal handle.
What kind of miles do you use? In Indonesia a mile is 2km
1 mile is approximately only 1.6 kilometres
@@margaretforrest6110 Hello Margaret! That's not true, there are many different miles. In the past every region,maybe even every village had their own version of a mile! Haha times were crazy when people still used those units 🍄
Love this but wish it didn't look so cartoon-ish, prefer the e-208 imo
The Corsa-E is my choice for the best looking EV this year
I'd buy one egg shaped zoe if it was levitating, if not, there are cooler options
@@soundslave They're built on the same platform I believe but yeah, it's a close one between e-208 and corsa-e for me
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! More to the point is to ask your panel-beater/repairer how hard/expensive is it to fix? Or don't prang it!
Peugeot 208e is my favourite.
Why does no one talk about the next to useless heater?
The issue with the new Zoe and it’s bigger battery pack is the inability to charge at a higher rate. That means it’s slower to fill up the bigger battery.
Bigger battery also means less frequent charging, so it might compensate depending on use case.
Would love to see a head to head comparison against the Honda e and every other small car out there!
aviva las vegas I believe the Honda e have significant lower range. Like 180 km or something
No mention of assisted driving? I understand this car is in the lower-priced category but this is where the future is so doesn't bode well for Renault.
Spit seat been avail on previous model
It came in later on in the R110...Mine didn't..
This may be a stupid question, but how come in the video the driver side is on the left, but when you order the car it's on the right?
Because they're made for both left-hand and right-hand drive markets
At 4:57 please identify where that charger in the middle of the road is located, that will come in very handy when all the various motorway and mainstream charger facilities are offline and /or busted! Can’t understand why every road is laden with them.
Also is it really necessary to be holding and waving a charger around, we get it, it’s electric.
Great looking car !
What's the constant music for?
How does it compare to an equally sized petrol car economically ? Is it cheaper to run ?
The more you drive, the more you save. Found an older article about the R90 Zoe and the cost per mile was about 52.2p. Depends a bit how you charge etc. naturally. This is with residuals etc. counted in. It's cheaper than petrol after probably like 30 miles a day driving.
@@esaedvik And the more renewable energy is pumped into the grid the cheaper it'll become I imagine.
For my current Zoe I pay £0.05 per kWhr overnight, so worst case example of 3 miles per kWhr works out at £0.016 per mile, compared to about £0.15 per mile in a 40 MPG petrol car.
@@grier2593 Is that correct ? More than nine times less ??? Oil's in for a dive, BIG dive lol !
@@johannesbekker1970 yeah for sure, it does rely on being able to charge from home and swapping to an overnight tariff with a company like Octopus Energy. If you relied on public rapid charging then it could get up to £0.10 per mile.
Quite often workplaces and some car parks offer free slow charging, which makes the £ per mile even less.
Also remember that a lot of the cost of petrol is tax, home electricity is only 8% VAT in comparison.
Does it have adaptive cruise control? It’s a dealbreaker if it does not have it.
Teslabjorn just tested one in a 1000 km trip, sheck it out.
nope.
What about the AVAS sound?
Now I would buy a car for the bus like driving position he's not so keen on.
eww how old are you?
Yup. Great for a city car. These guys seem to want everything to be sporty.
Yes, I also like the driving position!!
I always thought the Renaults were pretty reliable -- the French make great trains apparently.
The best? The only annoying thing is driving position? The shutdown procedure alone takes some learning to do it. Big screen is not necessary nor easy to deal with. The buttons are littered everywhere and it is hard to find them. There are plenty cars on the market, that are more user-friendly. But knowing the company it comes from... You should stop experimenting Renault!
I'm still not sure if the leased battery would work for my driving. it appears expensive on paper. But I don't know If it would work out better than buying fuel?
He said the option of leasing the battery is no longer available.
how high are you? I'd like to know a reference for the headroom.
Lots of customer reviews saying the car is unreliable with numerous faults.
2020 captur please !
How have Mini managed to squeeze such little range into their new electric car compared to Renault??
Luke Éclair Battery size!
My Renault’s battery lost 25% capacity at 45000 kms , 35% at 65000 kms... And Renault still resists to accept its own warranty promise for the battery since then... A car is Nothing without a proper service.
Thinking of getting one, but I am 182cm (5'11) don't know if it is spacious enough or I am going to feel uncomfortable in it
I'm the same height in my Zoe and you'll be fine
The screen doesn't look quite so "stuck on with gaffer tape" as the last one, but that's only because it's bigger.
Great car but again the only problem I have is they won't sell or service one in the U.S.
Sounds like an easy problem to have. Can't get one.
Have a look at an entry level EV the Renault K-ZE, nice mini SUV under $9,999 with 250 km range. Good to see some decent, under 10K over 250 km EV's coming on. This is what we need.
But remember that under 250 km is getting close to the 30kWh Leaf. That's around 5 years too late for the target market. People want 300 km to 325 km range, so that town drivers can recharge weekly, and main road drivers aren’t stopping to recharge for ⅓ of the total journey time.
Does it have Apple Carplay and/or Android Auto?
Android Auto,yes.
does it have cruise control?
Benjamin Shtark yes
Great car. Still too expensive though but that will change with time....and competition.
As long as some EVs have an absolute ridiculous driving position - such as the Zoe or the Ampera-E - it will never get mainstream. I want to sit in a car, not on top of it.
So don't buy a Zoe or Ampera-E - there are lots of alternatives. Try ev-database.uk/
Are the batteries air or liquid cooled?
Active air cooled. Uses the AirCon unit to blow pre-cooled air through the pack while charging. Not the most high tech way of doing it but better than the Leaf and the Zoe ZE40's batteries are showing up as very reliable, with very little degradation at all.
It's better than e208? Apart from range what is better than 208?
E208 is faster and it has intelligent cruise control, in GT trim at least. Can't get that on the Zoe.
Zoe will probably go a fraction further but you have to pay extra on the Zoe for rapid CCS charging, which is kind of weird.
Just sat in an e208 this afternoon. It was a beautiful car but I think the Zoe has a little more leg room in the back.
Oh, and from what I've heard I think the Zoe is probably comfier and the e208 is setup to be a little more sporty, but I've read it can feel a bit harsh.
@@cable1722 thank you. yeah at slower speed 208 is apparently bit figitty! Will check on reviews again and wait for more review and get test rides of both. 208 looks more sporty but don't understand why they have a drive shaft tunnel in middle when it's suppose to be electric, wasted space. Even new focus has lower floor in middle of rear than many electric vehicles. If both cars are good enough in general then as a new car buy I would go for the Zoe for that bit of extra range! I would spec it more sporty to differentiate from unisex appearance.
@@112deeps the e208 is definitely tight for space. I couldn't get my 8 year old behind me in car seat. Leg room just too tight.
I'm sure you'd be happy with either but I'd choose the e208 if space wasn't the issue. Zoe if I needed the practicality.
"James and Kate" reviewed the E-208 and said it was small on the inside,and they couldn't get a kid's buggy in the boot..That you can do in a Zoe..
How tall are you? Can we get a review from a short person as well as standard?
My first EV choice.
base model 3 is cheaper and much much much better in every category.
Robert Hirsch It’s not better in every category since I’ve been inside both of them, but anyway, it looks like a whale compared to the Zoe and I don’t want a whale, because I don’t know where to park it, for starters. I’m living in a big city and I won’t park it as easily as a Zoe. And why on earth I would want a car that weights 1,725 kilos -at least- just to move my fat ass? Then, there’s the somehow superficial but not forgettable issue that Tesla owners in my city are dicks, since they use the space between traffic lights to make drag races to their wives to show them how fast it accelerates, ignoring zebra crossings and other signals. Two of them almost ran me over.
@@rwhirsch Base model 3 cheaper than a Zoe? Show me the sticker prices!
The top of the line model is a similar price to the Mercedes A250e, which is a Plugin Hybrid with a very usable 40 mile electric only range.