I sent a lens to Nikon for a CLA. It came back unserviced with a note that they no longer have parts for it (which was an irrelevant comment). I sent it to a third party repair shop and they disassembled the lens, cleaned and lubricated it.
@@raksh9 I love my old Nikon glass (I use it on my Leica SL2), but that event taught me a lesson. When I toured Leica’s Wetzlar campus, I noticed they had some very old machines in the factory. They said they keep old machines because they’re needed to fix very old Leica cameras and lenses.
Thank goodness, you were able to get the lens serviced, despite Nikon's wretched excuse. I shoot with Nikon film cameras (I have 2 of them), along with the Nikon Zf, coupled with Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses. If I sent something away to be serviced and got a response like that, I'd go nuts. Many of these companies fail to realise that many of us buy their products (old as well as new), but we appreciate more the support and little details that keep us loyal. When they throw away everything and calously dismiss us, if we go looking for help, what they are telling us is that we don't matter; that our concerns are invalid. And NO company with that attitude deserves our loyalty!
I had this exact same experience with Leica service in the USA when I needed repair on my 50mm Lux V3 (the last pre-ASPH). They told me they no longer had the parts and wouldn't repair... I wound up having to ship to Kanto camera in Japan to get it fixed.
Ahhh that makes me happy to see your smile! I know how much you love the engraving on the top. Now your M10 is complete and for your usecase it's even better than a M10-P with quiet shutter! Congrats to the upgraded camera! 🙂
Upgrade looks mint, they did a great job! I feel like your M10P is pretty much peak digital Leica at this point in aesthetics and feel, I love the shutter in them too. You must be chuffed. :P
You definitely nailed it, Matt. CPS can repair anything of mine with a 4 days turn around, shipping included, which is fantastic for my work equipment. But I still pick up my Leica any time I have a day off. Plus, the longer turn around time just means we gotta buy more Leicas!
At the same time I sent my x100V to Fujifilm for repair... between sending the camera and receiving it: 2 weeks (the camera was repaired in a factory in Portugal). This delay on the part of Leica is incomprehensible ! Happy for you 😊
I’ve heard that Leica is looking to improve service delivery times but they are inherently more mechanical so the technicians need to be that much more skilled. It’s more akin to getting a high end mechanical watch serviced.
I'm so happy that you got i back in such relatiely quick order. I'm sure there is someone who can black out the white engraving on the top plate, still leaving the engraving that you can feel whilst running your finger over it. Probbly get whatever one would like done.
I prefer the M10P shutter sound simply because it sounds better than the original M10 one which sounds odd at certain shutter speeds...the low volume was a perk I guess, but honestly in a studio/closed environment it is still audible. I do love that they keep your original hotshoe/serial number when you do this upgrade so the camera still says "LEICA M10" on the top, that cleanness looks so nice.
Regarding Leica Service: The CLA for a Noctilux should now take 9 months to 1 year. I said: let me know when you have time and then I'll bring the lens over. Why should it sit on your shelf for a year? But they said: no chance. That's just how it works. On the other hand: I had a misaligned Leica M262 and so I called Leica Service. They offered me an on-site appointment (Leica is around 100 km away from me) and then they checked, cleaned and adjusted the camera on-site immediately. And free of charge. Perfect! It couldn't be better. In my opinion, Leica Service does a great job!
congrats on your camera’s return! I know the long wait time and have complained about it in the past but you hustled can’t helped but have a smile on your face when it’s back (same goes for the frustration too). I do enjoy the 262 shutter sound more and I love my 246. funny enough, I had my M10 before my 246 purchase and have owned both and as much as I enjoy the 246 (or 240) size and battery and the entire ergonomics, I can’t seem to part with the M10 despite all that (imo between the 240 and M10 the 240 is the better camera in all regard except for the slimness of it, perhaps it is that that makes it hard to let go and go for the 240 for my colour M)
Yes weight should be the same and yes it’s a normal brass anodized top plate (unlike the black M11 which is ofc lighter. (I actually asked for that but the size is slightly different so they can’t do that).
Mostly just confirmed that you did a good job on mounting the screw on the M262, seems to be the exact same angle 😅 Congrats on getting the M10(p) back. I'll be honest when trying the M262 wasn't blown away but I remember using the M10 for a bit early this year and that one immediately just felt right!
I like the sound of the 262 at a lower frequency. Realizing that the M10(P) sound is from a brand new shutter. I'd like to hear the sounds with a lens mounted. though.😉
I sent my Pen FV off to luton canera repair for a CLA, when they sent it back they had managed to replace the missing spinny handle on the film rewind crank. No more sore thumb for ne! They didnt even charge for the part 🎉
Oh man, love that the leather is replaced. I never doubted you, Matt, but this is the kind of camera a true pro as yourself should be seen with! P.s. I hate unboxings 😅
Congratulations on your M10(-P). It's a fine camera, some even say it's the last "real" Leica M. The successors contain more and more electronics and software and move further and further away from "the essentials" - "das Wesentliche".
Hi Matt✌ I think you took a good step and chose to upgrade to the P with the ideas you wanted. Congratulations on your new tool👌 I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it. As for the shutter noise, I prefer the 262 here, it sounds more subtle and nicer to me. Of course it's a matter of taste 👍but all in all it's a great device and I wish you that it will stay with you for a long time and also fulfil your expectations without any technical problems occurring, which would of course be very annoying for you. Have fun and shoot film😁 little fun digital was meant 😉I am as far as I can because I am still sick with my iif/iiic/iiif testing which is also a lot of fun. Lg Anderl
Nice new look. Like your M10 shutter sound the best of the two. Where on earth did you get those oval rings that allow you to use the Pen Design red strap ends? Assume they are strong enough to take the weight of a noctilux lens?
Hi Mark, I don't. I buy the Leica cameras more for the performance/ function than the branding so for watches I go to brands known for watches. I'm not a watch expert but I have a few. Seiko automatics are always nice and not hugely expensive.
Congratulations! I do miss my M10-P. I had to move away from M cameras to end up coming back to it. Lesson learned at least. Do you find you notice the difference in the eye piece size between the M10 and the older M bodies?
Maybe I missed something, but if the M-10 shoots color and the now converted to M-10P shoots color why do you prefer to shoot color with the M262 instead of the later model M-10(P)? And, I cannot find the link for the Mr. Leica Approved screen protectors. Maybe dementia, but could you give it to me? Thanks.
Hi Sandy, I just buy matte screen protectors from Germany, about $10 so not expensive. Nothing fancy except need to be matte finish. M262 has the older M240 sensor so like the M9 (but to a lesser extent) it has better colours than newer models. M9 > M240 > M10 > M11 (colours get worse each time). Sorry I left an Ebay link to eBay not to the actual items as I just search matte screen protector for Leica M10 etc.
Sorry I left an Ebay link to eBay not to the actual items as I just search matte screen protector for Leica M10 etc. (I've used different brands and all work fine)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Matt, hey thanks for explaining your ideas on declining Leica colors. Hmmm. I am hopeful for the Q3 43. We'll see. Thanks again.
Interesting. I thought the M10-P is supposed to be a quieter model. But the M262 actually sounds more quiet to me and I prefer the sound of it. Thanks for doing this update. Informative and helpful. Am looking at getting a used digital M but having a tough time deciding which one. Probably leaning towards the M10-P due to its considerable improvements over earlier models. But then there's the price factor. Back to square one. Back and forth. Back and forth. :-(
Thanks, if you missed it the video explains that I requested a half upgrade to keep the original louder M10 shutter as I need it for model photography.
I tried to get my M10 converted to an M10P; Leica kept pushing the timeline back and back (it was going to be nearly 12 months) until I just bought a genuine M10P. Sold my M10 once it was returned.
Matt, as much as I love this channel, I am now very confused as to which camera you actually use, so far you have the Leica CL, M240, M262, M10, M10P, for portrait photography, since that's what you do mostly. Why this constant change of heart? Or is it? I have owned a M240 for a few years, and recently purchased a M10 Monochrom, I don't see any reason to upgrade, downgrade, or go sideways on each body. The M240 produces amazing color photos SOOC, and the M10M does the same for B&W.. On side note, I have used Leica support twice, and to be honest I am not impressed one bit, and I'm being nice :)
Hi, sorry for the confusion, I bought M10 to replace M240. M10 went to Germany for repair so I bought M262 (and sold M240). M10 was converted to M10(P). I now have CL, SL, M262, M10(P) + Q that I will sell. M262 colours are great yes but M10(P) will be my most used camera going forward (is the plan)(more versatile).
This is really cool, never knew leica could upgrade your camera! I wonder if it is also possible to change color like a silver to black?? Because I love my m11 which is brass … but its silver.. haha
Thanks Matt for the nice video and I wish you so much fun with the upgraded camera. It looks very sexy indeed. I have an irrelevant two questions if you don't mind. 1- Do you still use you Leica CL ? It doesn't show that often on the channel anymore. I have bought one since watching your video about the mini Q :) and I am thinking of using it with a vintage M lens to keep it small. what do you think ? 2- Have you upgraded to the Q3 ? or are you still use the original Q ?
Thanks! Yes I still have the CL. I use it less currently as I often need full frame sensors to test FF lenses. I'm not planning to sell it. I plan to sell my Q. I'm not interested in fixed lens cameras so much.
That was fast... 4 months for a brand "new" camera .. congrats and enjoy your "new" toy .. I m sure you 're going to take more photos with it 🙂 That a unique one for sure !
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom @1:26 Opps, sorry! The third time was a charm. I watched the video for the third time and saw the prices. The first two times I watched the video on my cell phone and did not see the written prices. The third time, I watched on my larger computer monitor and saw the prices in Euro with value added tax.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom @1:26 Oops, sorry! The third time was a charm. I watched the video for the third time and saw the prices. The first two times I watched the video on my cell phone and did not see the written price. The third time, I watched on my larger computer monitor and saw the price in Euro with value added tax.
Such a sexy piece indeed, and you did it well justice with the gloves 😂 As a watch enthusiast, I second your sentiments about caring for the smallest of details. That’s what good design is about, and should be fun. Speakinf if details, your loud m10p is very nice and sharp sounding. The m262 sounds like in a wood box, still charming though, but a retro charm 😊
And they refuse to upgrade my m11 or even engrave it. Assholes. Even in Leica Munich they started to behave like one. I really don’t get it as today I was in Leica Miami and they were super nice and sold me some gear. When I leave the store empty handed when I really want to buy something is really sad moment for me.
Yes you can't upgrade the current models as it images their sales of the M11-P etc. You should be able to engrave as you'll likely see me talk about this in a future video. Costs 200 euros FYI.
I like my Leica's WITHOUT the damned bright red dot....I really do not want to advertise what camera I have....I didn't buy it to show off, I bought it as a fun tool. I wish Leica would offer all their cameras with the option for the Dot and branding or blank and black....and it shouldn't require an extra charge, IMHO.
You might have missed all the screenshots. I try to make it as easy as I can for people. Watch again and note the M10 prices screenshot + slide from Leica screenshot showing the 2 upgrade price options. Then just add them together. (It won’t make sense for most M10 people as cheaper to buy 10P directly as mentioned).
I don"t send my M10 to Leica for upgrade. I just sell it and buy an M10P. But since, I'm absolutely disappointed to lost my chrome M10 ... Yes the M10P is absolutely quiet and very helpful in several conditions but the feeling and the look isn't really the same with my lost chrome M10. DON'T TRADE YOUR M10 FOR AN M10P
Thanks for sharing. Yes my camera was already with Germany for repair so it was cheaper to upgrade than sell and rebuy. You'll have to buy another chrome camera one day. (I bought the M262 that had less functions than M240 and I prefer it).
no images! Super it's back! Friend had the M9 and faulty sensor.11 months wait. Wunderbaar! Why no images? I don't look at images o folks camera gear on FB! No like/dislike!
Thanks Jason, you no what the M10 images look like already. I shared them for nearly 6 months before I sent it away :) ..and it had just arrived when I made the video.
Matt, I love your videos, but this is just flushing money down the toilet.......sorry, I just do not get it...........and yes, I have a couple of nice watches.....................................................
Thanks Bill, You know I normally spend for no reason. The excuse here was 1) it's my job and 2) it's nice to have when facing my clients/ students etc. Call it a marketing expense and a nice to have combined.
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I sent a lens to Nikon for a CLA. It came back unserviced with a note that they no longer have parts for it (which was an irrelevant comment). I sent it to a third party repair shop and they disassembled the lens, cleaned and lubricated it.
That's very disappointing. Good thing you got a CLA elsewhere.
Thanks for sharing John, sorry to hear and I'm glad the independent helped you.
@@raksh9 I love my old Nikon glass (I use it on my Leica SL2), but that event taught me a lesson. When I toured Leica’s Wetzlar campus, I noticed they had some very old machines in the factory. They said they keep old machines because they’re needed to fix very old Leica cameras and lenses.
Thank goodness, you were able to get the lens serviced, despite Nikon's wretched excuse.
I shoot with Nikon film cameras (I have 2 of them), along with the Nikon Zf, coupled with Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses. If I sent something away to be serviced and got a response like that, I'd go nuts.
Many of these companies fail to realise that many of us buy their products (old as well as new), but we appreciate more the support and little details that keep us loyal. When they throw away everything and calously dismiss us, if we go looking for help, what they are telling us is that we don't matter; that our concerns are invalid. And NO company with that attitude deserves our loyalty!
I had this exact same experience with Leica service in the USA when I needed repair on my 50mm Lux V3 (the last pre-ASPH). They told me they no longer had the parts and wouldn't repair... I wound up having to ship to Kanto camera in Japan to get it fixed.
The unboxing moment is great, Leica Camera AG's customer service is top notch.
Thanks! Customer service is OK. They normally try to help even if the answer is not good.
Ahhh that makes me happy to see your smile! I know how much you love the engraving on the top. Now your M10 is complete and for your usecase it's even better than a M10-P with quiet shutter! Congrats to the upgraded camera! 🙂
Thanks Tobi! Yes finally I have my own pretty top plate M camera :D ..though not quite as cool as your custom Ms :)
Upgrade looks mint, they did a great job! I feel like your M10P is pretty much peak digital Leica at this point in aesthetics and feel, I love the shutter in them too. You must be chuffed. :P
Hey thanks Henley! Yes it’s like new so very happy. Yes I think it’s the sweet spot (except I’d love to have USB-C charging!)
Very nice video. Congratulations on your new M10-P (ish). Made me smile to see you so happy. Happy shooting. 🎉
Thanks Jay!
You definitely nailed it, Matt. CPS can repair anything of mine with a 4 days turn around, shipping included, which is fantastic for my work equipment. But I still pick up my Leica any time I have a day off. Plus, the longer turn around time just means we gotta buy more Leicas!
Haha thanks Rex! Yes it's their excuse to make us buy more cameras :)
At the same time I sent my x100V to Fujifilm for repair... between sending the camera and receiving it: 2 weeks (the camera was repaired in a factory in Portugal). This delay on the part of Leica is incomprehensible ! Happy for you 😊
Great stuff for Fuji, I know most consumer brands tend to be much faster.
I’ve heard that Leica is looking to improve service delivery times but they are inherently more mechanical so the technicians need to be that much more skilled. It’s more akin to getting a high end mechanical watch serviced.
I'm so happy that you got i back in such relatiely quick order.
I'm sure there is someone who can black out the white engraving on the top plate, still leaving the engraving that you can feel whilst running your finger over it. Probbly get whatever one would like done.
Thanks Michael! Strangely I love the white lettering even if less stealth.
Congratulations Matt! They have done a really great job Happy for you 😀 Enjoy!
Thank you! (Yes agreed!)
What lens is at the minute 3:04 ?
I’m glad you ask! For anything Leica search “MrLeica - Russar 20mm” or visit MrLeica.com
I prefer the M10P shutter sound simply because it sounds better than the original M10 one which sounds odd at certain shutter speeds...the low volume was a perk I guess, but honestly in a studio/closed environment it is still audible. I do love that they keep your original hotshoe/serial number when you do this upgrade so the camera still says "LEICA M10" on the top, that cleanness looks so nice.
Thanks, yes I love the clean look now. Happy I did it.
So happy for you, Matt!
Thanks Greg!
The real smile of an honestly happy guy!
Haha yes, what you see is what you get with me! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom and that is why you have an extraordinary channel!
I cannot locate the link to the screen protector. Did I miss it?
I put a general eBay link. I’ll mention it in the next video again as multiple people asked and make a direct link for you there.
I am with you on this one!
I have an M10-RP
No red rashes on my camera, thank you!
Ah excellent! Great. Thanks Ray
Looks really great! Finally the real deal, congrats!
Yes at last, thanks!
That is great news Matt. Happy for you.
Thank you!
Regarding Leica Service:
The CLA for a Noctilux should now take 9 months to 1 year.
I said: let me know when you have time and then I'll bring the lens over. Why should it sit on your shelf for a year?
But they said: no chance. That's just how it works.
On the other hand: I had a misaligned Leica M262 and so I called Leica Service.
They offered me an on-site appointment (Leica is around 100 km away from me) and then they checked, cleaned and adjusted the camera on-site immediately. And free of charge. Perfect! It couldn't be better.
In my opinion, Leica Service does a great job!
Thanks for sharing Ralf, great to hear!
congrats on your camera’s return! I know the long wait time and have complained about it in the past but you hustled can’t helped but have a smile on your face when it’s back (same goes for the frustration too). I do enjoy the 262 shutter sound more and I love my 246. funny enough, I had my M10 before my 246 purchase and have owned both and as much as I enjoy the 246 (or 240) size and battery and the entire ergonomics, I can’t seem to part with the M10 despite all that (imo between the 240 and M10 the 240 is the better camera in all regard except for the slimness of it, perhaps it is that that makes it hard to let go and go for the 240 for my colour M)
Thanks Nicholas! Yes nice to have it back already. Yes M262 colours are better but like you I love the slim design of the M10.
Nice! Is the new top-cover to the M10 made of brass or aluminum? Does the camera weight as much as an original M10-P?
Yes weight should be the same and yes it’s a normal brass anodized top plate (unlike the black M11 which is ofc lighter. (I actually asked for that but the size is slightly different so they can’t do that).
Cool! Didn’t know they offered that service. Congrats!
Thanks! Me neither until a few months ago and I check every option!
Great video Matt. Did they do a CLA as part of the upgrade?
Thanks! I think not officially but they do enough to give a 12 month warranty
I like the crisp sound for sure
Thanks Robert! Yes it sounds very precise.
It looks beautiful Matt. I’m agonizing about selling my M11 to upgrade to an M11-P.
Thanks John, yes I love the look of the P models but remember they all take the same photos :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom That’s true, but this upgrade certainly put a nice smile on your face, which I understand. Enjoy your revised toy!
Mostly just confirmed that you did a good job on mounting the screw on the M262, seems to be the exact same angle 😅 Congrats on getting the M10(p) back. I'll be honest when trying the M262 wasn't blown away but I remember using the M10 for a bit early this year and that one immediately just felt right!
Thanks Thomas! I'll let you try the P version when I see you next :)
I like the sound of the 262 at a lower frequency. Realizing that the M10(P) sound is from a brand new shutter. I'd like to hear the sounds with a lens mounted. though.😉
Thanks! I'll try to share more in future videos
I sent my Pen FV off to luton canera repair for a CLA, when they sent it back they had managed to replace the missing spinny handle on the film rewind crank. No more sore thumb for ne! They didnt even charge for the part 🎉
Excellent service! It's always nice when they go above and beyond.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom fun thing is it took a month to finish the roll and I didn't actually notice until I had to rewind the roll 😅
matt congratulation to your upgraded leica M10, it`s nice, every leica M series should be that looks 😁
Thank you! Yes it looks pretty for sure!
Oh man, love that the leather is replaced.
I never doubted you, Matt, but this is the kind of camera a true pro as yourself should be seen with!
P.s. I hate unboxings 😅
Thanks, appreciated. Yes I kind of had the same thought (you'll see more on this in more videos soon!)
Great result. Where can one get the black replacement screw dot?
See the last video and link is in the description
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you
Nice one Matt!
Thanks Frank!
I think I prefer the sound of the M-262's shutter. Would honestly be psyched to have either.
Thanks, yes both have their own sound. I loved the M262 sound too when I first got it. I don't mind either. Prices will keep coming down year on year.
Congratulations on your M10(-P).
It's a fine camera, some even say it's the last "real" Leica M. The successors contain more and more electronics and software and move further and further away from "the essentials" - "das Wesentliche".
Thanks! Yes many call it the sweet spot in the line up of digital M cameras.
Hi Matt✌
I think you took a good step and chose to upgrade to the P with the ideas you wanted. Congratulations on your new tool👌 I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it. As for the shutter noise, I prefer the 262 here, it sounds more subtle and nicer to me. Of course it's a matter of taste 👍but all in all it's a great device and I wish you that it will stay with you for a long time and also fulfil your expectations without any technical problems occurring, which would of course be very annoying for you. Have fun and shoot film😁 little fun digital was meant 😉I am as far as I can because I am still sick with my iif/iiic/iiif testing which is also a lot of fun.
Lg Anderl
Thanks Anderl! More film stuff very soon :)
but does it work?............(ahh John, go to your room!........can't wait to hear more on our next Zoom....Mr. Matt!)
Ha thanks John, yes it works
Nice new look. Like your M10 shutter sound the best of the two.
Where on earth did you get those oval rings that allow you to use the Pen Design red strap ends? Assume they are strong enough to take the weight of a noctilux lens?
Thanks! Do you mean the metal rings? Just look on eBay (normally for key rings etc).
Would be interested in your opinion regarding the touch screen functionality.
I tend not to use touchscreen when I have it on other cameras.
I met Matt in NYC back in July, super cool guy.
Thanks Ben, I hope to be back in NYC next year!
Congrats, feels like a new camera :)
Thanks! Yes
Question for you Matt. Do you use a Leica watch please? If so which model do you choose and recomend it?
Hi Mark, I don't. I buy the Leica cameras more for the performance/ function than the branding so for watches I go to brands known for watches. I'm not a watch expert but I have a few. Seiko automatics are always nice and not hugely expensive.
Congratulations! I do miss my M10-P. I had to move away from M cameras to end up coming back to it. Lesson learned at least. Do you find you notice the difference in the eye piece size between the M10 and the older M bodies?
Thank you! Viewfinder - honestly no (especially once I fit a 1.4x LLL mag to it).
Is upgrade from M262 to M10 worth?
Not if you don’t need live view. That’s the biggest reason to use the M10. I’ll use both depending on my needs.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComthank you
Maybe I missed something, but if the M-10 shoots color and the now converted to M-10P shoots color why do you prefer to shoot color with the M262 instead of the later model M-10(P)?
And, I cannot find the link for the Mr. Leica Approved screen protectors. Maybe dementia, but could you give it to me? Thanks.
Yeah - I too was looking for link to screen protector… thanks in advance
@@tedportnay4086 Horror of horrors, Matt made a mistake!! Yikes!!
Hi Sandy, I just buy matte screen protectors from Germany, about $10 so not expensive. Nothing fancy except need to be matte finish.
M262 has the older M240 sensor so like the M9 (but to a lesser extent) it has better colours than newer models. M9 > M240 > M10 > M11 (colours get worse each time).
Sorry I left an Ebay link to eBay not to the actual items as I just search matte screen protector for Leica M10 etc.
Sorry I left an Ebay link to eBay not to the actual items as I just search matte screen protector for Leica M10 etc. (I've used different brands and all work fine)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Matt, hey thanks for explaining your ideas on declining Leica colors. Hmmm. I am hopeful for the Q3 43. We'll see. Thanks again.
Interesting. I thought the M10-P is supposed to be a quieter model. But the M262 actually sounds more quiet to me and I prefer the sound of it. Thanks for doing this update. Informative and helpful. Am looking at getting a used digital M but having a tough time deciding which one. Probably leaning towards the M10-P due to its considerable improvements over earlier models. But then there's the price factor. Back to square one. Back and forth. Back and forth. :-(
Thanks, if you missed it the video explains that I requested a half upgrade to keep the original louder M10 shutter as I need it for model photography.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes, got it but momentarily forgot when replying and didn't bother to correct it. LAZY !
That’s funny, the regular M10 shutter is pretty quiet already anyway.
The P is silly quiet haha but yes mine is great for me.
Let's hope your camera will not freeze up.
No it’s only M11, Q3 that freeze up
I tried to get my M10 converted to an M10P; Leica kept pushing the timeline back and back (it was going to be nearly 12 months) until I just bought a genuine M10P. Sold my M10 once it was returned.
Selling and re-buying is faster for sure. Mine was quite quick
Congratulations!
Thank you!
Take my money. Doing it now, lol.. it's too bad it takes so long, but at least I assume you also get a CLA? and a warranty. That's awesome.
Yes if you saw the screenshot you get warranty etc so a good way to send your camera for a "check up" at the same time. :)
Matt, as much as I love this channel, I am now very confused as to which camera you actually use, so far you have the Leica CL, M240, M262, M10, M10P, for portrait photography, since that's what you do mostly. Why this constant change of heart? Or is it? I have owned a M240 for a few years, and recently purchased a M10 Monochrom, I don't see any reason to upgrade, downgrade, or go sideways on each body. The M240 produces amazing color photos SOOC, and the M10M does the same for B&W.. On side note, I have used Leica support twice, and to be honest I am not impressed one bit, and I'm being nice :)
Hi, sorry for the confusion, I bought M10 to replace M240. M10 went to Germany for repair so I bought M262 (and sold M240). M10 was converted to M10(P). I now have CL, SL, M262, M10(P) + Q that I will sell. M262 colours are great yes but M10(P) will be my most used camera going forward (is the plan)(more versatile).
This is really cool, never knew leica could upgrade your camera! I wonder if it is also possible to change color like a silver to black?? Because I love my m11 which is brass … but its silver.. haha
Thanks, me neither until a few months ago and I was looking at every option! haha, the colour might be less easy :)
How much it cost
Price is in the video on the slides from Leica (depends on what upgrade you have)
nice news for you ! what do you do with m262 now?🙄
Yes I might use them as a pair when I travel for shoots as I always need spare body for clients/ models
Thanks Matt for the nice video and I wish you so much fun with the upgraded camera. It looks very sexy indeed.
I have an irrelevant two questions if you don't mind.
1- Do you still use you Leica CL ? It doesn't show that often on the channel anymore. I have bought one since watching your video about the mini Q :) and I am thinking of using it with a vintage M lens to keep it small. what do you think ?
2- Have you upgraded to the Q3 ? or are you still use the original Q ?
Thanks! Yes I still have the CL. I use it less currently as I often need full frame sensors to test FF lenses. I'm not planning to sell it. I plan to sell my Q. I'm not interested in fixed lens cameras so much.
nice... pretty good turnaround too
Thanks! Yes much faster than I expected. A nice surprise!
Definitely prefer the M 262 shutter sound. The M10 sounds like a sneezing Smurf.
Haha thanks, the M10 definitely sounds more clicks
That was fast... 4 months for a brand "new" camera .. congrats and enjoy your "new" toy ..
I m sure you 're going to take more photos with it 🙂 That a unique one for sure !
Thanks Grom! Yes faster than expected!
Brand new 2nd hand Leica, sweet.
Yes! Better than I could have expected!
Congratulations. Enjoy.
Thank you!
Nice! Prefer the M262 more "meaty" sound. (I am an M8 user, so used to solid sounding shutter :)
Thanks! Yes the older M cameras have a meaty sound for sure! M8/M9 especially :)
Exactly how much does it cost to upgrade from an M10 to an M10-P?
Watch the video it tells you ;)
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I watched the video twice and did not see a price. I saw prices for a new M10P but not for an upgrade.
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@1:26 Opps, sorry! The third time was a charm. I watched the video for the third time and saw the prices. The first two times I watched the video on my cell phone and did not see the written prices. The third time, I watched on my larger computer monitor and saw the prices in Euro with value added tax.
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@1:26 Oops, sorry! The third time was a charm. I watched the video for the third time and saw the prices. The first two times I watched the video on my cell phone and did not see the written price. The third time, I watched on my larger computer monitor and saw the price in Euro with value added tax.
That new shutter now sounds like my Contax G2s before they stopped working. It sounded just like a click really.
Nice. Yes it sounds very crisp and exact for sure!
OK ... WHAT WATCH are You wearing ?????????
Seiko 5 Sports Field Watch Automatic Grey Dial :)
Such a sexy piece indeed, and you did it well justice with the gloves 😂 As a watch enthusiast, I second your sentiments about caring for the smallest of details. That’s what good design is about, and should be fun. Speakinf if details, your loud m10p is very nice and sharp sounding. The m262 sounds like in a wood box, still charming though, but a retro charm 😊
Thank you! Yes and great you like watches. I'll try to feature a few more going forward. Yes the M262 sounds very crisp!
You know what's so strange . They call it 'upgrade' we call this 'stealing' .😂
Why stealing?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom the price of the upgrade 😯 the full pack
I prefer the shutter sound of the 262
Thanks, more dampened for sure!
Such a freaking nice camera.
Yes!! I always see my students with nice P cameras. Finally I have a pretty camera too :D
Perfect!
Yes! Thanks
They didn't add the "P" to the "M10" engraving!?
I'm not sure if they can if it left the factory originally as a M10
And they refuse to upgrade my m11 or even engrave it. Assholes. Even in Leica Munich they started to behave like one. I really don’t get it as today I was in Leica Miami and they were super nice and sold me some gear. When I leave the store empty handed when I really want to buy something is really sad moment for me.
Yes you can't upgrade the current models as it images their sales of the M11-P etc. You should be able to engrave as you'll likely see me talk about this in a future video. Costs 200 euros FYI.
I like my Leica's WITHOUT the damned bright red dot....I really do not want to advertise what camera I have....I didn't buy it to show off, I bought it as a fun tool.
I wish Leica would offer all their cameras with the option for the Dot and branding or blank and black....and it shouldn't require an extra charge, IMHO.
Thanks CC! Yes a nice idea to offer it as optional for each model.
Very nice but how much does this all cost? You’re being very coy about the bill.
You might have missed all the screenshots. I try to make it as easy as I can for people. Watch again and note the M10 prices screenshot + slide from Leica screenshot showing the 2 upgrade price options. Then just add them together. (It won’t make sense for most M10 people as cheaper to buy 10P directly as mentioned).
YEEEESSS
Thanks Simon!
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Thanks mate!
M10!
It's back! :)
If I were a model I'd like better the M262 sound.
Haha yes, it sounds softer for sure!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom In the video it seems a bit louder but warmer, kind of thicker, as if it were easier to hear while working.
I don"t send my M10 to Leica for upgrade. I just sell it and buy an M10P. But since, I'm absolutely disappointed to lost my chrome M10 ... Yes the M10P is absolutely quiet and very helpful in several conditions but the feeling and the look isn't really the same with my lost chrome M10. DON'T TRADE YOUR M10 FOR AN M10P
Thanks for sharing. Yes my camera was already with Germany for repair so it was cheaper to upgrade than sell and rebuy. You'll have to buy another chrome camera one day. (I bought the M262 that had less functions than M240 and I prefer it).
no images! Super it's back! Friend had the M9 and faulty sensor.11 months wait. Wunderbaar! Why no images? I don't look at images o folks camera gear on FB! No like/dislike!
Thanks Jason, you no what the M10 images look like already. I shared them for nearly 6 months before I sent it away :) ..and it had just arrived when I made the video.
what if leica upgrade my m240 to a m11 sensor and type-c charger🤤🤤
Haha nice idea :)
Matt, I love your videos, but this is just flushing money down the toilet.......sorry, I just do not get it...........and yes, I have a couple of nice watches.....................................................
lol, not your money, so…
Thanks Bill, You know I normally spend for no reason. The excuse here was 1) it's my job and 2) it's nice to have when facing my clients/ students etc. Call it a marketing expense and a nice to have combined.