I love how brok instantly knew heimdalls weakness "you gotta overwhelm his senses" basically make it so he cant focus on his foresight to dodge your attacks. Great way of showing how smart brok actually is despite his outward crassness.
@@crownedoasis2923 imagine how fucking terrifying his character would have been if he wasnt so cocky and arrogant and actually thought about his actions beyond split second decisions based on his precognition.
Eugh.... the amount of patience that he puts up for the not too still clear number of Years.... if....only, he heeded brok's words. darn it, sindri. Snap out of it. you still....kind of have them. at....least?
Even before losing Brok, he took damage by ACCIDENT from Atreus. Even then he still has a feeling of little forgiveness. 'I'll forgive you eventually' Sindri is the type of dwarf that just clings and hangs on to what he thinks that could harm him and comfort him, at least in the back of his mind. I think his vengeful and spiteful nature after Brok's death could change him permanently and not come back to the Sindri we knew before Brok's death. Even if he moves on, it will not be the same for this character.
@@kumaira_arts i don't think he's that spiteful just yet, at the funeral he seemed like he was grieving but he didn't really lash out against kratos when kratos brought up Brok. I do however think that if this plotline continues in a side game or something like that i can see him being an antagonist trying to go to forbidden lengths to try to bring back Brok.
That was one moment that I feel like not many people notice, but it’s always made me die laughing- a father who knows when to let the uncle take the reins lol
Man, poor Sindri. In 2018, he forgave Atreus before he even apologized for yelling at him, now in Ragnarok, even by the end he still hasn't forgiven the two of them.
Sindri did forgive Atreus for attacking him as a bear; as he sought him out later on and gave him an escape portal. But yeah, it's really sad what happened between them afterwards.
In his own way Sindri did forgive them for what happened without saying so. By taking responsibility over the dwarfs and taking part in the war he showed them that he understood it was just as much his oversight and responsibility for what happened. Forgiving people is not all there is to grief and righting wrongs.
Man Sindri really gave them his all and all he got in return was a concussion and a dead brother in the end. really justifies his feelings after the ending
Add in losing a ring which ensured he and Brok had an infinite safety net in terms of wealth should they need to start over again? Oh yes, he has every right to not forgive any of them.
@@Shinchibi facts but I would think Kratos could just give him spears . Or he would live well enough with the vanir or Kratos himself if he set aside his hatred but hat is not easily broken.
I really feel bad for Sindri. From GoW to Ragnarok, a lot of stuff happened to him. But what he did to Odin in the end, I’m super glad it was by his hands.
Quote from Kratos : "This path you walked, vengeance, you will have no peace, I know." It's literally can applied to Sindri right here, and we all see even after the funeral, Sindri still not recovered, he's just not the Sindri we know anymore
@@dongianlazero when I said I’m glad, I mean he had up to here with all the shit given to him from Atreus to Odin. Sindri meant well from the beginning, but thanks to Odin he has been a completely changed person. If there’s anyone that truly deserves to end Odin, it’s him. Killing his brother was his final straw. Still, he really didn’t deserve any of it. Not once. I thought Atreus talking shit to him in GoW was brutal when he doesn’t deserve it. He was merely ranting and nothing more. But Ragnarok, really sets him off. So there’s my complete opinion on Sindri. I didn’t want to explain myself before ‘cause I thought that one paragraph was enough to give many GoW players an idea. Odin destroyed his spirit. Thus Sindri returned the favor. An eye for an eye. So yeah. I feel bad for Sindri. Again, he never deserve any of it.
So basically Sindri was actually feeling a little bit angry at Atreus on how he left early in the game , then Odin happen and it got more escalate turns his angry to hatred, poor friendship destroy by odin, he got defeated but still win
Things change man. Original GOW was purely hack and slash but you can’t use the same formula and expect it to succeed every time. It gets boring. The themes have to change, some times it works, some times it blows up in their faces. It’s a gamble
But also think about Kratos' growth. If he was how he use to be he would just slaughter everyone and everything that crossed him. The transition from GOW 3 to GOW 2018 and GOW Ragnarok. It is beautiful and amazing story telling.
@@travisohaver42090 It's not really amazing, it's kind of weird tbh. Like he want from being a sadistic serial killer who brutally killed innocent people who slowed him down even slightly to the character we see here.
@@holliswilliams8426 kratos had an "impatience of youth" that after killing Zeus and the pantheon left him hollow. It seems to me like he stopped living for himself and devoted the rest of his existence in raising Atreus. I see this as incredible character development seeing as his motivations in the early trilogy being he wanted revenge for his family. Age humbles people.
You can tell that over time, Sindri gets increasingly aggravated with Atreus. Whatever they talked about before Kratos came back with Freya, his transformation into a bear and attacking Sindri. When he comes back, he’s clearly giving Atreus the cold shoulder. I was hoping that they’d find a moment eventually to talk and make up, but… then Brok died, and that was just the breaking point. It all rushed out, and as a result… we have who Sindri is now. Granted, if you trace it back far enough, Odin’s manipulations play a part… but honestly? The fact that Atreus left after the story ended was… a big bummer for me. Because we can’t even have Atreus try to work things out, or even properly apologize. On a more comedic note, if Brok were still around, I can only see him smacking Sindri upside the head or something. He was too good for us…
True, but there was a moment when Atreus decided to return to Asgard and Sindri asked him if he knew what he was doing, and made sure he had an escape. Even though he was still slightly angry he was still concerned for his safety.
@@matthewriley7826 True. Things would have probably gotten better eventually, but then well... Tyr turned out to be Odin, Brok died, and that bridge was still in the process of being repaired
@@leonides1527 its sad, cuz there will be no afterlife for brok or even reincarnation, becuz he has no soul in his body, just like a vessel without its soul, its all because brok has died once and sindri bring him back to life but in change of brok afterlife, so when brok dies again, he will go nowhere and just ya know, dies and nothingness
Definitely Brok is the more forgiving brother. In the first game he immediately forgives Sindri when they reunite, and when he dies he forgives Sindri for not telling him about his first death.
KLratos and aterus would have repayed them a thousand fold for their help and friendship but....... Nothing could be done for a dead brother. Brok though saw the bigger picture in the end. He understood that they were working toward something much more important than themselves, you could tell by how freely Brok gave to them. What worth is even a trinket like a replicating ring, vs helping a friend, and doign what they can to prevent ragnarok? Were it not for him, too, they may have been played by odin compeltely too. sindri cannot see it though. he has too much pain in his heart.
@@taddad2641 the thing about Sindri is that like Freya with Balder, Brok's death wasn't just painful it was also horrific too because his soul can't go to the afterlife since Sindri couldn't retrieve the final piece.
He said its why Odin tortured him. It was a masterful move at that, attaching viable information to grief as a shield and hoping their own assumptions will fill in the rest.
Tyr was close to the giants and was the one who helped them seal off jotunheim from Odin so for me it would make sense that he would be aware of some of their powerful items
Damn. Looking at it from Sindri's perspective, Atreus and Kratos really are soul-draining entities. They show up in his life, connected to him by an axe that he made for someone else, they use his skills, largely show minimal appreciation (Kratos just by his nature, Atreus by being a little so-and-so when he got moody), and then in Ragnarok...well they literally bring war to their home, Atreus injures Sindri, the Tyr they brought home murders Brok; and like Sindri says, they just keep taking. No matter what happens they never apologize (until the end that is), they never acknowledge how much they're asking, how much they've saddled on Sindri (and Brok)'s shoulders. To the player, privy to all the struggles that Kratos and Atreus also go through and the sacrifices they make, it makes sense. But from Sindri's perspective, they must look like monsters by the end. Odin at least left them alone.
SINDRI is an MVP in RAGNAROK... I like this guy... he was scared and reserved and cant even kill a fly in the start, until the end where BROK was killed, he just doesnt give a F anymore... goes to show that some people can change with a TRAUMATIC or DEPRESSING experience...
@@Kratos_Messi7050 deimos gets braught up a bunch in this game so i think the devs noticed the similarity. kratos finaly overcame his fall while sindri is just starting
Sindri and Brok and Mimir we're my absolute favorite in terms of characters with comedic personality and hopefulness. so this hurts my heart because the dwarves and Mimir we're extremely generous
Sindri already had a lot of self-doubt and internal guilt for reviving Brok in the first place, but now that this all happened on top of that, a lot of that anger piled on and specifically pointed at Atreus. I'm sure if Brok were here, he would yell at his brother for blaming Atreus for something none of them truly ever saw coming. Mimir also threw a small little comment for exposition about how if you don't have four of your souls, you can't really find eternal peace or rest within the light/lake of souls. So I'm sure Sindri is feeling even more guilty and angry, maybe outwardly to Atreus, but in actuality, he's angry at himself for condemning his brother to an eternal unrest (even though Brok said it was alright and forgave him before he died).
Tho Odin was mostly to blame it was atreus fault for all the crap sindri been through, not intentional but he did take advantage his friendship and kindness and atreus's ego was getting worse basically "end justifies the means" now because of the his choice he just lost the brothers one who died and will never be seen again and other completely losing a friendship and only has hate for him, now he's gotta live with that
@@elpepo0 Kratos ultimately killed his family out of a blind lust for power, the man isn't without blame. Atreus can be irritating for sure but his mistakes don't even compare to his dad's.
@@drumo2273 "Out of a blind rush for power?" I'm sorry but did we play the same original trilogy? Kratos wasn't aiming to be a god for power, it was for revenge. Hell even when he originally achieved godhood it wasn't what he really wanted, all he was after was for his bad dreams/nightmares of his family to go away, manz just wanted a clear conscience and the gods said no, then Zeus his own father tried (and actually if you think about it) did kill him. The man died and crawled his way out of Hades thrice! No, nothing Kratos did was for power (at least not in the games timeline) Hell he had what he wanted the only reason he continued to be a warrior in the first game was because he was bound to Ares as his personal kill toy. My manz just wanted to have a family and chill (exactly what we see in GoW 18 with BOY) I won't disagree that Atreus is pretty damn annoying (he was in the first game too, but at least it's a well written annoying)
@@recap1843 When he killed his wife and daughter, wasn't it because he raided a city worshipping Athena under Ares' name? His actions after *that* were for revenge but that was a mistake made due to his blind servitude. I'm not claiming Kratos didn't have reason for what he did in the main games, most of the gods are irredeemable pricks, but that was a mistake he could have wholly avoided had he heeded that woman's words that day.
Its funny how in the Norse Myth Thor's power came from his Belts and Kratos would repurpose such belt is very well possible since Atreus hasn't done enough to right his wrongs
I'm actually surprised Sindri is holding on to so much hate. If it wasn't for Kratos and Arteus, him and Brok would have never reconciled. I would think he would have learned to let things go, (like Brok told him when he died.) but he seems to just keep letting his anger fester. He's honestly worse than Brok because Brok is very open with his anger and emotions while Sindri keeps a nice demeanor but becomes overwhelmed when something happens.
Some interesting character continuity here. Of the Huldra Brothers, Sindri was always the one who was worse about holding grudges and generally refusing to let go. Remember their feud in GoW 2018? Yeah, both brothers badmouthed each other, but as we figure out through the game, Brok is just ALWAYS badmouthing people. He doesn't really mean any of it and he still cares about Sindri, even going so far as to ask Atreus how he's doing, and when Sindri shows up wanting to reconcile Brok is immediately receptive. But Sindri? Nary a good word about Brok comes out of his mouth and it takes a hurtful lashing out from Atreus for him to even entertain the idea that their feud might not have been all Brok's fault. Sindri never shows any concern for Brok until after they reconcile, and even goes so far as to be incredulous when told that Brok is concerned about him. This trait stays with him in Ragnarok. Note nobody in the house - not even Brok - holds Atreus running to Asgard against him...except Sindri. Sindri genuinely seemed to have taken it personally that Atreus didn't listen and got him hurt. The cut to Kratos was far deeper, and Brok was literally mauled by the undead and neither of the two held it against Atreus at all. Sindri turning his back on Atreus was set up all the way back in GoW4. He's been a vindictive man with a propensity for grudges from the moment we've met him.
I'm going to laugh if the next God of War has Sindri is becoming the bitter dwarf Alberich from The Ring of the Nibelung. Creating a cursed ring by the magical Rhine-gold he stole from the Rhinemaidens, triggering Götterdämmerung (Twilight of the Gods) to happen.
So he's like the dwarves from warhammer fantasy then since those guys are the kind that would remember even the tiniest mistake and put it as a grudge like it is personal
@@AK3601 Or maybe he plays the role Freya played in Ragnarok, i.e. the grief stricken individual who refuses to forgive Kratos and Atreus... but will eventually reconcile either by surviving a near-death experience together, and/or going on a journey of self-discovery and realising that they are not truly enemies
On a personal level I relate myself to Sindri a lot. I used to be like him, getting out of my way for others and helping them until they reach their goals, giving my things to others easily without them asking for it in the first place. I knew the term "nice guys finish last" but I still wanted to be the nice guy. as years go by, I finally learnt that I need to be nice to myself, I still help others, but learnt that I can not be there for someone else all the time. there has to be a limit on how much I can go out of my way for others. The nicest part of me is gone. Sindri's character has strike me deep and reminded me of my old days.
Mt pet peeve is when ''nice'' people offer you all these things and help you did not ask for, but do apriciate, into a weapon to use against you when you dont return the favor. Like you exploited them. When people have the disease to please, thats on them. You dont owe anyone anything if they offerd it freely. If people have expectations after helping you, it's not really helping. I do love helping people. And I also sufferd from the disease to please, sometimes still do. But I have shaken the bad habit of blaming others for me going to far in helping people at my own expense. I needed to learn balance between being nice to myself and others as well, and I am still learning. But when I go to far again I realise I simply didnt balance it well enough (or realise somebody I am helping is in fact a jerk which does happen). But some people NOT jerks can not always return the favor either. May that be for mental health reasons, emotional reasons, financial reasons. Not everyone works the same, and can offer the same kind of support. If you ever wish to help anyone, to be kind, to be nice, make sure it's genuine and done without any expectations. Dont want anything in return, and likewise guard your own boundries in how far you go to make sure you stay healthy and happy after your help has been given.
@@amberanime Over years of helping others, I have learnt that there is a limit of how much I should do. like I said in my last comment, the nicest part of me is gone. a few minutes to help an old lady to carry her belongings is fine, but anymore than that is a reflection that those people do need serious help, and that is when I would think if it is right to continue to help them. the real help for people is to help them to a state where they can help themselves, an outsider can only help so much, but when one can help him or herself, then that is the real help they deserves.
you know Atreus is out of line when Kratos is back to calling him "boy", he regressed to the state when "he's not ready", even if it's Odin who's to blame also Sindri's anger towards Atreus is justified because Atreus just can't keep his emotions in check most of the time even since the previous game
i mean, it is justified, but atreus instability is also justified, he was a kid when his mother died, he had to kill monsters to survive, fought elves for HOURS alone while worried that his father died in alfheim light, is the only one that know (in his perspective) that his father will die and he will serve odin, and a lot of traumatic shit, so it is also justified, this game works well with the "justifications" for their mistakes, kratos not being a good father in a loving way is mostly because he never knew how, freya spent years trying to prevent the little shit death, sindri went to literal hell to save his brother, to lose him, thor got manipulated, etc etc
@@dhark0n332 very true, I love how Santa Monica didn't treat other characters as just "fodders" but as actual characters, they have their own reasons which makes their actions very justifiable unlike almost half of modern games where side characters are used as mere "fodders" to make the main characters look good yet with all these tragedies in the 2 last games, Atreus still experienced the "good life" if you remembered all of the other previous games with those greek gods and all, remember that one part of the game where Kratos literally had to cast away Calliope forever in the underworld just because he has to fulfill his destiny(and we need to do it as player with QTE, damn)? yea good times.......at least Atreus never had to experience that and left on his own in the end on good terms with Kratos
@@oniplus4545 yes, but we must remember, kratos is already an adult at this point, if atreus were in kratos place, he would likelly be traumatized, after all, he is a kid, even on 2 he is at most, adolescent, so he is so young and got to see and do some shit that would break everyone of us, he did not experienced the "good life" he experienced a life that his father were there to help him, but he got so fucked just like kratos, in the 2 game he almost was in a kind of calliope scenery, since his father WOULD die, and during most of the game, this affects him, so he is justifiedd to act like an irresponsible dude
@@Idk-gd5yx Sindri already lost brok but took his souls back in probably the light in alfheim, but he didn't get all of his souls part. He can't get the direction part of his soul that's used to talk with the lady in the forge
@@ThetThip i still think kratos shrunk when greece died. The few god magic in him probably left seeing as all the other greek gods have god forms as well
We all know if Kratos says boy at the volume to where the subtitles are in all caps then Atreus is in trouble But seriously Sindri went through some shit in this game and I don’t think I’ve felt this bad for any game character ever
@@sleepier9433 the fact that Odin managed to act like Tyr so perfectly even that Mimir himself couldn't even notice it shows how frightening the All father is
@@thecommentguy9380 No, i know, they implement that ring into the spear, "We got plenty and to spare" means that they got plenty of duplicates for themselves and the main ring for the spear
you mean "boy", it signifies the state when "he's not ready", the small detail when he called him boy just before Atreus tried to use the realm door signifies that Kratos thinks Atreus is not yet ready to confront his own fate he calls Atreus "son" when he's proud of him or if he's about to convey something serious
Atreus is super aggravating in this game. He was basically doing to Sindri what Odin has been doing to the dwarves and everyone else forever. Take take take, use use use. I feel the worst for Sindri by games end though.
It’s annoying he lies a thousand times then gets mad nobody trusts him.. THEN blames Kratos for lying first.. who had GOOD REASON TO LIE. And he forgets kratos TOLD THE TRUTH AT THE END.
Sindri is just the punching bag in both Norse games and I’m happy it had an effect on him. Would’ve been easier to just make it a joke or to have an apology be accepted and everyone’s back to being buds. But no. You’re not gonna forgive someone who invited the guy who murders your brother into your home just because he says sorry. Such a great game.
Ok i have a random question by the way i know not alot about the lore in the first game so i am trying to piece it together but wouldn't be also kratos fault to? Like i am not saying he is a bad father its just that i think he has bad communication and thats where atreus learned it from and also all of them ganging up on a teenager isnt really helping either
@@kahlilraya6670 kratos was terrible at communicating with atreus, BUT he definitely got better at it since the last game. it's not perfect communication since they still argue/disagree alot but you can see how much he's changed since gow 2018. atreus may feel like they're ganging up on him and they are but to them, it's for his own safety that they knock sense into him. because from their perspective, he's trying to do everything on his own and they know it's going to get him killed. kratos isn't helping, yeah but he doesn't want to lose his family again. he lost his wife and daughter before, he's lost faye so he doesn't want to lose his son. that's why he's so overprotective and atreus feels like he's always controlling him ?
@@MayMissYumi I mean he went missing for two whole days and expects everyone to stop asking and just trust him when he comes back. Kratos was totally valid with how he reacted.
@@lumenx7499 i literally didn't say it wasn't? if you actually read my comment, it says " it's for his own safety that they knock sense into him. because from their perspective, he's trying to do everything on his own and they know it's going to get him killed" meaning their reactions are normal.
Because sindri use to be atreus partner in crime.. he felt betrayed when atreus didnt listen to him.. he thought atreus is his close friend who would listen to him.. prolly
I can see why Sindri was mad about the whole thing with Brok. Atreus let Tyr into his home without his permission, only to end up with his brother dying because it was a facade by Odin. And to make matters worse, he was THE ONLY ONE with Brok when he died and had to BEG Freya to help. Kratos was the only one who NEEDED to be dealing with Odin, the only one qualified, but every let their hatred for Odin overcome them while their friend and HOST bled out behind them.
I really want to see a villainous arc come for Sindri. Like they did a great job of leading events up to it. Like a certain someone not attending a certain characters funeral and another "characters" betrayal.
If he does go bad there is one thing he could acquire that could be a game changer especially in the hands of a master blacksmith, and that's what's left of the blade of Olympus, its drained of power but it was able to contain all the power of a god and while empowered it was able to take down some of the strongest enemies Kratos faced. He would have to travel to what's left of Olympus but its definitely doable.
@@The_Menendez considering that the giants escaped out of the nine realms and atreus is following them... sigrid might do the same except go to olympus
i mean, he is lucky to not get belt of chaosed, also, sindri, brok, mimir, and freya also can, since kratos considers them family, to a point where freya put atreus life in risk, and yet, kratos pourposly did not retaliate in a way that could perma hurt her
i don't understand why atreus didn't have more of a reaction to seeing freya in the house... at this point, he surely would've been surprised to see her and kratos as allies rather than her trying to kill him. i get the situation called for a different circumstance but still, i feel it wouldve been more consistent to the story if atreus had some surprise about seeing freya.
At this point of the story, he's too caught up in who he thinks he's meant to be. He talks about feeling confused at seeing Freya with Kratos later on after the incident when he's alone, but brushes the thought off and focuses on doing his own thing.
All of this stuff he did just to be able to googling. ODIN : "Imagine!!! all answers in the palm of your hand" ME : "Yeah, this device on my palm literally answer everything. You need WIFI tho"
Odin should've had Nord VPN™️ with the ability to browse anonymously Brok wouldn't have been able to sus out his plans and could've been anywhere in the 9 realms
it's like the aleph in the story by jorge luis borges, it's a point where you see all of space and all of time when you look into it, you would probably go mad looking into it
The real one still has his arm, Mimir said it grew back after his journey in Egypt, most likely an Egyptian god offered to regrow his arm since it has hieroglyph markings on it
@@yellowconsole5631 Probably Atreus goes there to find remaining Giants, does something stupid, Kratos comes along to bail him out. Hopefully he can make peace with that Pantheon.
The writing is superb in this game. The conversation is so realistic, you can tell that there are people on the writing staff with teenage kids. "Oh, so everybody's against me now!" Such a typical thing to say at that age lol.
I think Sindri is the last GOW protagonist character I'd want to be angry at me. Yeah, Kratos is scary and so is Freya, but Sindri is so kind, and he didn't get angry when bratty young Atreus started mouthing off at him in the previous game. I'd be hella sad if someone like him starts hating every cell in my body.
There could be a DLC for Atreus story or Krastos story that could go deep into the relationship between Sindri with Kratos and Atreus after Brok's death. Maybe the DLC could reveal the next land that Atreus or Kratos participated in. I'm not sure my theories are correct but since there are only 2 parts of Kratos adventure in Norse Mythology. So either there will be a DLC about Sindri or the next game will be.
Okay Brok was wrong at the end of that line. When Atreus went Bear (he still had no control over that form due to shifting in rage) Beartreus actually swatted him like a fly in his face.
Everyone seems to think Sindri turned on Atreus solely because of Brok's death. The truth, I think it started right at the moment they had that argument. He knew what Atreus was doing was reckless but Atreus basically just kept giving him the middle finger every time he tried to help him. He even got mauled by Atreus in bear form. Even if Brok had lived I think he would have still reached a breaking point because of how sick he was of not getting any recognition for his kindness. Which is something he later brings up when telling Kratos and Atreus off
Kratos: single dad Mimir: the uncle Sindri: that one tita trying to talk to a teen in a rebellious phrase. (at the start) Tyr: he reminds me of that chill hoise keeper at home who just watches chaos unfold. Atreus: kid in rebellious phrase.
It’s fascinating to me that Odin is a foil to both Atreus AND Kratos. Vaguely spoilery ahead, be advised. Atreus seeks truth, information, self discovery, and the answer to his fate. Discovering that his fate will lead to something horrific leads to terrible consequences for him and others (as he perceives it). Odin is much the same. But Odin’s reactions closed his heart to the feelings of others. Atreus chose to empathize, and this helped him steer his fate. Turning what was foreseen to happen into a future of his design. As for Kratos, they are near polar opposites. All the same they have their through-lines. They are both fathers to cantankerous sons. Both in the position to guide their families and forces. Both weathered with age, and the wisdom of Godly virtue. However, where Kratos accepts that his actions have consequences, works to answer for them and learns to break the chains of hatred, Odin is blinded by his singular obsession with the Truth. He cannot see the harm his quest is causing others. This gets further emphasized by their approach to destiny. Kratos understands that futures and fates are often muddied and misunderstood by their presentation, so he changes his fate not by actively fighting it, but ignoring it to make decisions of his own choosing and reasoning. Living IN the moment, future be damned. Odin takes the information of the future as gospel and obsesses over ways to destroy paths to it. This unknowingly sets down the bricks of the road to Ragnarok with his same actions. So saying, Kratos ignores that there is a prophecy, while Odin ignores that there is a choice. I could talk about how Odin is driving his family apart while Kratos is trying to forge a family, or how Kratos LEADS his army while Odin hides behind his…but it is the idea of Fate that binds the three together, and their perception of it forges their futures. Ultimately, that is my point. You are not bound by Fate unless you let yourself be bound. You *always* have a choice, and your actions *always* have a consequence, both to yourself and others. The point of this game’s story is to teach Atreus that very lesson.
Man i really hate what they did to sindri. At first i loved it, he was getting brave and was very happy and it was so pleasing to see. Then things went donwhill real fast and real hard. It was especially sad to me because i lost my brother, so i understand it all too well.
I love how brok instantly knew heimdalls weakness "you gotta overwhelm his senses" basically make it so he cant focus on his foresight to dodge your attacks. Great way of showing how smart brok actually is despite his outward crassness.
Yea and he was the only one to see through TYRs bull crap
Yeah Heimdall was Op but he never sat down to make a plan
@@crownedoasis2923 imagine how fucking terrifying his character would have been if he wasnt so cocky and arrogant and actually thought about his actions beyond split second decisions based on his precognition.
i mean he came up with a riddle even mimir couldn't figure out for a while.
@@gooeyking in a way i think it was because of his precognition that he got such an ego.
It puts Sindri's later feelings into perspective big time
Definitely 💀
Eugh....
the amount of patience that he puts up for the not too still clear number of Years....
if....only, he heeded brok's words.
darn it, sindri. Snap out of it.
you still....kind of have them. at....least?
Even before losing Brok, he took damage by ACCIDENT from Atreus. Even then he still has a feeling of little forgiveness. 'I'll forgive you eventually' Sindri is the type of dwarf that just clings and hangs on to what he thinks that could harm him and comfort him, at least in the back of his mind. I think his vengeful and spiteful nature after Brok's death could change him permanently and not come back to the Sindri we knew before Brok's death. Even if he moves on, it will not be the same for this character.
@@kumaira_arts i don't think he's that spiteful just yet, at the funeral he seemed like he was grieving but he didn't really lash out against kratos when kratos brought up Brok. I do however think that if this plotline continues in a side game or something like that i can see him being an antagonist trying to go to forbidden lengths to try to bring back Brok.
@@pforgottonsoul He won't bring back Brok as Brok asked him to stop. Sindri also knows that it should be Brok's choice & he won't repeat it again
love how Kratos held Mimir up to assist in arguing with his Son
Mimir is the second father
He was like "you seeing this shit bother?
That was one moment that I feel like not many people notice, but it’s always made me die laughing- a father who knows when to let the uncle take the reins lol
@@Dragonlord826 i said more like a uncle
It's a great resource having the smartest man alive
Man, poor Sindri. In 2018, he forgave Atreus before he even apologized for yelling at him, now in Ragnarok, even by the end he still hasn't forgiven the two of them.
Sindri did forgive Atreus for attacking him as a bear; as he sought him out later on and gave him an escape portal. But yeah, it's really sad what happened between them afterwards.
It was sad going to broks funeral and not seeing atreus
In his own way Sindri did forgive them for what happened without saying so. By taking responsibility over the dwarfs and taking part in the war he showed them that he understood it was just as much his oversight and responsibility for what happened.
Forgiving people is not all there is to grief and righting wrongs.
@@CornholioPuppetMaster Forreal, kiiiiiindaaaaaa shitty to not go to the funeral.
I feal like shit seeing Sindri in this state cus he was the type of person to break his back 4 u☹️☹️☹️
Man Sindri really gave them his all and all he got in return was a concussion and a dead brother in the end. really justifies his feelings after the ending
Add in losing a ring which ensured he and Brok had an infinite safety net in terms of wealth should they need to start over again? Oh yes, he has every right to not forgive any of them.
It's the cost of being reckless; everyone else pays the price for your mistakes.
@@Shinchibi facts but I would think Kratos could just give him spears . Or he would live well enough with the vanir or Kratos himself if he set aside his hatred but hat is not easily broken.
@@Kyubii01 true, he could just ask for the spear back, and Kratos would honor it.
Me and the boys hate atreus
I really feel bad for Sindri. From GoW to Ragnarok, a lot of stuff happened to him. But what he did to Odin in the end, I’m super glad it was by his hands.
Yeah, it's always a bittersweet ending with GoW.
Im actually not glad, because it's also mean Sindri is not himself anymore, Sindri we know would not do such a thing
Quote from Kratos : "This path you walked, vengeance, you will have no peace, I know." It's literally can applied to Sindri right here, and we all see even after the funeral, Sindri still not recovered, he's just not the Sindri we know anymore
This series isn’t known for its happy endings….
@@dongianlazero when I said I’m glad, I mean he had up to here with all the shit given to him from Atreus to Odin. Sindri meant well from the beginning, but thanks to Odin he has been a completely changed person.
If there’s anyone that truly deserves to end Odin, it’s him. Killing his brother was his final straw. Still, he really didn’t deserve any of it. Not once. I thought Atreus talking shit to him in GoW was brutal when he doesn’t deserve it. He was merely ranting and nothing more.
But Ragnarok, really sets him off.
So there’s my complete opinion on Sindri. I didn’t want to explain myself before ‘cause I thought that one paragraph was enough to give many GoW players an idea.
Odin destroyed his spirit. Thus Sindri returned the favor. An eye for an eye. So yeah. I feel bad for Sindri. Again, he never deserve any of it.
So basically Sindri was actually feeling a little bit angry at Atreus on how he left early in the game , then Odin happen and it got more escalate turns his angry to hatred, poor friendship destroy by odin, he got defeated but still win
This is god of war nowadays...
>By Odin.
No this is literally all Atreus's fault. This is the one thing Odin didn't actively try to destroy.
Things change man. Original GOW was purely hack and slash but you can’t use the same formula and expect it to succeed every time. It gets boring. The themes have to change, some times it works, some times it blows up in their faces. It’s a gamble
Seem Atreus fault for me
@@8440k if they made anohter game like god of war 3 it would have been a success , look at rockstar , same formula always bank
Probably the only person in history to curse at Kratos and walk away with not even a scratch on him
well... brok aleady cursed at kratos sometimes, but brok is brok, he is badass
But also think about Kratos' growth. If he was how he use to be he would just slaughter everyone and everything that crossed him. The transition from GOW 3 to GOW 2018 and GOW Ragnarok. It is beautiful and amazing story telling.
@@travisohaver42090 It's not really amazing, it's kind of weird tbh. Like he want from being a sadistic serial killer who brutally killed innocent people who slowed him down even slightly to the character we see here.
@@holliswilliams8426 it's called character growth
@@holliswilliams8426 kratos had an "impatience of youth" that after killing Zeus and the pantheon left him hollow. It seems to me like he stopped living for himself and devoted the rest of his existence in raising Atreus. I see this as incredible character development seeing as his motivations in the early trilogy being he wanted revenge for his family. Age humbles people.
You can tell that over time, Sindri gets increasingly aggravated with Atreus. Whatever they talked about before Kratos came back with Freya, his transformation into a bear and attacking Sindri. When he comes back, he’s clearly giving Atreus the cold shoulder. I was hoping that they’d find a moment eventually to talk and make up, but… then Brok died, and that was just the breaking point. It all rushed out, and as a result… we have who Sindri is now.
Granted, if you trace it back far enough, Odin’s manipulations play a part… but honestly? The fact that Atreus left after the story ended was… a big bummer for me. Because we can’t even have Atreus try to work things out, or even properly apologize.
On a more comedic note, if Brok were still around, I can only see him smacking Sindri upside the head or something. He was too good for us…
True, but there was a moment when Atreus decided to return to Asgard and Sindri asked him if he knew what he was doing, and made sure he had an escape. Even though he was still slightly angry he was still concerned for his safety.
@@matthewriley7826 True. Things would have probably gotten better eventually, but then well... Tyr turned out to be Odin, Brok died, and that bridge was still in the process of being repaired
Somewhere in the afterlife
Brok: god dammit sindri... At least talk to the damn kid or something
@@leonides1527 its sad, cuz there will be no afterlife for brok or even reincarnation, becuz he has no soul in his body, just like a vessel without its soul, its all because brok has died once and sindri bring him back to life but in change of brok afterlife, so when brok dies again, he will go nowhere and just ya know, dies and nothingness
Definitely Brok is the more forgiving brother. In the first game he immediately forgives Sindri when they reunite, and when he dies he forgives Sindri for not telling him about his first death.
Seeing Sindri become so cold was so heartbreaking man. Damn. All you could see in his eyes was pain. Felt so sorry.
🥺
2:22 that's the most angriest boy I heard from kratos
lol pretty much very true
Yup
i got shivers... ever had a dad that angry shout at you? feels like it in that scene.
He said it! He said the word!! I knew it!!
🤣🤣🤣
1:59 You can tell by kratos's voice that he was genuinely getting pissed at Atreus
Well he did just push him into the table
When are they introducing the belt of chaos 💀💀💀
Further evidence 2:22
@@vaultlord1922 never cause Kratos would not spank his kids according to the director
kratos doesn't use physical punishments on his children
Sindri. Gave them everything, and all he got in return was head trauma and a dead brother.
Sums up his feelings entirely
KLratos and aterus would have repayed them a thousand fold for their help and friendship but....... Nothing could be done for a dead brother.
Brok though saw the bigger picture in the end. He understood that they were working toward something much more important than themselves, you could tell by how freely Brok gave to them. What worth is even a trinket like a replicating ring, vs helping a friend, and doign what they can to prevent ragnarok? Were it not for him, too, they may have been played by odin compeltely too.
sindri cannot see it though. he has too much pain in his heart.
@@taddad2641 the thing about Sindri is that like Freya with Balder, Brok's death wasn't just painful it was also horrific too because his soul can't go to the afterlife since Sindri couldn't retrieve the final piece.
@@taddad2641 ‘the bigger picture’ doesn’t really matter to someone who lost what was most precious to him in the world.
GoW 4: Dead Trauma and Head Brother
GoW Ragnarok: Head Trauma and Dead Brother
I like the part where nobody questions Tyr knowing about the mask more than Odin`s WIFE, the one that was closest to him.
I mean the mask had some connections with the giants and Tyr had good contact with em and all the other realms too
He said its why Odin tortured him. It was a masterful move at that, attaching viable information to grief as a shield and hoping their own assumptions will fill in the rest.
No she was a marriage for power, to learn her old magic. Förð was the Alfaters true love.
Tyr was close to the giants and was the one who helped them seal off jotunheim from Odin so for me it would make sense that he would be aware of some of their powerful items
@@FrostDzNz indeed
2:21 watch kratos ignite the "Belt of Chaos" and frost up the "Leviathan slippers" for atreus
just wait until he activate Spartan Rage
underrated comment lmao
Leviathan slippers 😂😂
On a side note, their argument is by far the most human family thing ever in this franchise
@@sotl7749 ikr.. this series has come a long way
Damn. Looking at it from Sindri's perspective, Atreus and Kratos really are soul-draining entities. They show up in his life, connected to him by an axe that he made for someone else, they use his skills, largely show minimal appreciation (Kratos just by his nature, Atreus by being a little so-and-so when he got moody), and then in Ragnarok...well they literally bring war to their home, Atreus injures Sindri, the Tyr they brought home murders Brok; and like Sindri says, they just keep taking. No matter what happens they never apologize (until the end that is), they never acknowledge how much they're asking, how much they've saddled on Sindri (and Brok)'s shoulders.
To the player, privy to all the struggles that Kratos and Atreus also go through and the sacrifices they make, it makes sense. But from Sindri's perspective, they must look like monsters by the end.
Odin at least left them alone.
SINDRI is an MVP in RAGNAROK... I like this guy... he was scared and reserved and cant even kill a fly in the start, until the end where BROK was killed, he just doesnt give a F anymore... goes to show that some people can change with a TRAUMATIC or DEPRESSING experience...
One bad day can change you forever
@@ilost1492 all it takes is just one bad day
@@ilost1492 Kratos when he lost deimos
reminds me of a certain sparta who was ares's follower
@@Kratos_Messi7050 deimos gets braught up a bunch in this game so i think the devs noticed the similarity. kratos finaly overcame his fall while sindri is just starting
Watching these scenes after the game gives a whole new feeling to watch it over. Trying not to spoil it.
I know exactly which part you’re talking about lol. “He’ll only cloud your mind.”
Everyone: 👀
Honestly man seeing sindri at the end like that. That is a oscar worthy performance 🥺
It's no wonder Sindri was mad. He really got done in for this game.
And here I thought him yelling at Sindri in the first game was the worst thing he would do to him..
Sindri and Brok and Mimir we're my absolute favorite in terms of characters with comedic personality and hopefulness. so this hurts my heart because the dwarves and Mimir we're extremely generous
I felt sooooo bad for sindri because I actually grew to love the character
Sindri already had a lot of self-doubt and internal guilt for reviving Brok in the first place, but now that this all happened on top of that, a lot of that anger piled on and specifically pointed at Atreus. I'm sure if Brok were here, he would yell at his brother for blaming Atreus for something none of them truly ever saw coming. Mimir also threw a small little comment for exposition about how if you don't have four of your souls, you can't really find eternal peace or rest within the light/lake of souls. So I'm sure Sindri is feeling even more guilty and angry, maybe outwardly to Atreus, but in actuality, he's angry at himself for condemning his brother to an eternal unrest (even though Brok said it was alright and forgave him before he died).
Tho Odin was mostly to blame it was atreus fault for all the crap sindri been through, not intentional but he did take advantage his friendship and kindness and atreus's ego was getting worse basically "end justifies the means" now because of the his choice he just lost the brothers one who died and will never be seen again and other completely losing a friendship and only has hate for him, now he's gotta live with that
Seems he takes after his father a lot more than we thought…
@@matthewriley7826 Kratos was doing it non purpose though
@@elpepo0 Kratos ultimately killed his family out of a blind lust for power, the man isn't without blame. Atreus can be irritating for sure but his mistakes don't even compare to his dad's.
@@drumo2273 "Out of a blind rush for power?" I'm sorry but did we play the same original trilogy? Kratos wasn't aiming to be a god for power, it was for revenge. Hell even when he originally achieved godhood it wasn't what he really wanted, all he was after was for his bad dreams/nightmares of his family to go away, manz just wanted a clear conscience and the gods said no, then Zeus his own father tried (and actually if you think about it) did kill him. The man died and crawled his way out of Hades thrice! No, nothing Kratos did was for power (at least not in the games timeline) Hell he had what he wanted the only reason he continued to be a warrior in the first game was because he was bound to Ares as his personal kill toy. My manz just wanted to have a family and chill (exactly what we see in GoW 18 with BOY) I won't disagree that Atreus is pretty damn annoying (he was in the first game too, but at least it's a well written annoying)
@@recap1843 When he killed his wife and daughter, wasn't it because he raided a city worshipping Athena under Ares' name? His actions after *that* were for revenge but that was a mistake made due to his blind servitude. I'm not claiming Kratos didn't have reason for what he did in the main games, most of the gods are irredeemable pricks, but that was a mistake he could have wholly avoided had he heeded that woman's words that day.
Kratos is about to craft the belts of chaos
👁👁
Its funny how in the Norse Myth Thor's power came from his Belts and Kratos would repurpose such belt is very well possible since Atreus hasn't done enough to right his wrongs
BOI has been sparred the rod too long.
I'm actually surprised Sindri is holding on to so much hate. If it wasn't for Kratos and Arteus, him and Brok would have never reconciled. I would think he would have learned to let things go, (like Brok told him when he died.) but he seems to just keep letting his anger fester. He's honestly worse than Brok because Brok is very open with his anger and emotions while Sindri keeps a nice demeanor but becomes overwhelmed when something happens.
but they would both still be alive, which in most cases is better.
@@BlazeBluetm35 no, cause they saved Sindri from the dragon and Brok might have been killed by those creatures in the woods when they first met
@@radioraheem9820 they can literally just teleport to other realms, not just hide between them so I doubt they would have died.
@@BlazeBluetm35 Sindri said that trick didn't work on dragons and I'm only saying maybe foe Brok. He probably could have escaped but who knows
@@radioraheem9820 brok's case was normal monsters not a dragon.
Some interesting character continuity here. Of the Huldra Brothers, Sindri was always the one who was worse about holding grudges and generally refusing to let go. Remember their feud in GoW 2018? Yeah, both brothers badmouthed each other, but as we figure out through the game, Brok is just ALWAYS badmouthing people. He doesn't really mean any of it and he still cares about Sindri, even going so far as to ask Atreus how he's doing, and when Sindri shows up wanting to reconcile Brok is immediately receptive. But Sindri? Nary a good word about Brok comes out of his mouth and it takes a hurtful lashing out from Atreus for him to even entertain the idea that their feud might not have been all Brok's fault. Sindri never shows any concern for Brok until after they reconcile, and even goes so far as to be incredulous when told that Brok is concerned about him. This trait stays with him in Ragnarok. Note nobody in the house - not even Brok - holds Atreus running to Asgard against him...except Sindri. Sindri genuinely seemed to have taken it personally that Atreus didn't listen and got him hurt. The cut to Kratos was far deeper, and Brok was literally mauled by the undead and neither of the two held it against Atreus at all.
Sindri turning his back on Atreus was set up all the way back in GoW4. He's been a vindictive man with a propensity for grudges from the moment we've met him.
Well said
Absolutely bang-on, excellent post.
I'm going to laugh if the next God of War has Sindri is becoming the bitter dwarf Alberich from The Ring of the Nibelung. Creating a cursed ring by the magical Rhine-gold he stole from the Rhinemaidens, triggering Götterdämmerung (Twilight of the Gods) to happen.
So he's like the dwarves from warhammer fantasy then since those guys are the kind that would remember even the tiniest mistake and put it as a grudge like it is personal
@@AK3601 Or maybe he plays the role Freya played in Ragnarok, i.e. the grief stricken individual who refuses to forgive Kratos and Atreus...
but will eventually reconcile either by surviving a near-death experience together, and/or going on a journey of self-discovery and realising that they are not truly enemies
7:55 Brok I will miss you brother.
On a personal level I relate myself to Sindri a lot. I used to be like him, getting out of my way for others and helping them until they reach their goals, giving my things to others easily without them asking for it in the first place. I knew the term "nice guys finish last" but I still wanted to be the nice guy.
as years go by, I finally learnt that I need to be nice to myself, I still help others, but learnt that I can not be there for someone else all the time. there has to be a limit on how much I can go out of my way for others. The nicest part of me is gone.
Sindri's character has strike me deep and reminded me of my old days.
Mt pet peeve is when ''nice'' people offer you all these things and help you did not ask for, but do apriciate, into a weapon to use against you when you dont return the favor. Like you exploited them. When people have the disease to please, thats on them. You dont owe anyone anything if they offerd it freely. If people have expectations after helping you, it's not really helping. I do love helping people. And I also sufferd from the disease to please, sometimes still do. But I have shaken the bad habit of blaming others for me going to far in helping people at my own expense. I needed to learn balance between being nice to myself and others as well, and I am still learning. But when I go to far again I realise I simply didnt balance it well enough (or realise somebody I am helping is in fact a jerk which does happen). But some people NOT jerks can not always return the favor either. May that be for mental health reasons, emotional reasons, financial reasons. Not everyone works the same, and can offer the same kind of support. If you ever wish to help anyone, to be kind, to be nice, make sure it's genuine and done without any expectations. Dont want anything in return, and likewise guard your own boundries in how far you go to make sure you stay healthy and happy after your help has been given.
@@amberanime Over years of helping others, I have learnt that there is a limit of how much I should do. like I said in my last comment, the nicest part of me is gone.
a few minutes to help an old lady to carry her belongings is fine, but anymore than that is a reflection that those people do need serious help, and that is when I would think if it is right to continue to help them.
the real help for people is to help them to a state where they can help themselves, an outsider can only help so much, but when one can help him or herself, then that is the real help they deserves.
I'm sorry you guys feel that way it must suck...
Love how tyr’s just standing there like “I made soup”
The way he just stands in the back 🤣
Damn. Kratos and Christopher gave it their all when they yelled "BOY!!"
you know Atreus is out of line when Kratos is back to calling him "boy", he regressed to the state when "he's not ready", even if it's Odin who's to blame
also Sindri's anger towards Atreus is justified because Atreus just can't keep his emotions in check most of the time even since the previous game
i mean, it is justified, but atreus instability is also justified, he was a kid when his mother died, he had to kill monsters to survive, fought elves for HOURS alone while worried that his father died in alfheim light, is the only one that know (in his perspective) that his father will die and he will serve odin, and a lot of traumatic shit, so it is also justified, this game works well with the "justifications" for their mistakes, kratos not being a good father in a loving way is mostly because he never knew how, freya spent years trying to prevent the little shit death, sindri went to literal hell to save his brother, to lose him, thor got manipulated, etc etc
@@dhark0n332 very true, I love how Santa Monica didn't treat other characters as just "fodders" but as actual characters, they have their own reasons which makes their actions very justifiable unlike almost half of modern games where side characters are used as mere "fodders" to make the main characters look good
yet with all these tragedies in the 2 last games, Atreus still experienced the "good life" if you remembered all of the other previous games with those greek gods and all, remember that one part of the game where Kratos literally had to cast away Calliope forever in the underworld just because he has to fulfill his destiny(and we need to do it as player with QTE, damn)? yea good times.......at least Atreus never had to experience that and left on his own in the end on good terms with Kratos
@@oniplus4545 yes, but we must remember, kratos is already an adult at this point, if atreus were in kratos place, he would likelly be traumatized, after all, he is a kid, even on 2 he is at most, adolescent, so he is so young and got to see and do some shit that would break everyone of us, he did not experienced the "good life" he experienced a life that his father were there to help him, but he got so fucked just like kratos, in the 2 game he almost was in a kind of calliope scenery, since his father WOULD die, and during most of the game, this affects him, so he is justifiedd to act like an irresponsible dude
I hated this scene when atreas hits sindri, hurts my heart
Sindri didnt do anything to deserve getting mauled by a bear
Previous game: Verbally hurt Sindri.
New game: Physically hurt Sindri.
Also sindri losing his brother
@@Idk-gd5yx Sindri already lost brok but took his souls back in probably the light in alfheim, but he didn't get all of his souls part. He can't get the direction part of his soul that's used to talk with the lady in the forge
@@The_Menendez yea
It’s wild how many characters in GOW make 7 foot Kratos look like a child next to him
6'4.
Because Cory tried to emasculate him
ps4 made him 6'4 because it is relatable to us but he was actually 8 feet
@@ThetThip i still think kratos shrunk when greece died. The few god magic in him probably left seeing as all the other greek gods have god forms as well
We all know if Kratos says boy at the volume to where the subtitles are in all caps then Atreus is in trouble
But seriously Sindri went through some shit in this game and I don’t think I’ve felt this bad for any game character ever
1:19...Yeah, sure Tyr just pat your back and wear yourself with a medal there.
Still can't believe that he managed to fool everyone
Especially Mimir the one called the “smartest man alive”
@@sleepier9433 the fact that Odin managed to act like Tyr so perfectly even that Mimir himself couldn't even notice it shows how frightening the All father is
@@mohabalserafe3795 but somehow brok did , the one little buffoon we've been ignoring all this time
@@shivam5098 didn't he figure it out in the last minute
3:15 Just realised that "to spare" here is a pun referring to spear
No he means the the ring's duplicates. They use those duplicates for forging supplies or maybe trading
@@thecommentguy9380 No, i know, they implement that ring into the spear, "We got plenty and to spare" means that they got plenty of duplicates for themselves and the main ring for the spear
@@kelthusad9411 You chasing somethin that ain’t there bruh
@@kelthusad9411 You’re overthinking it brother.
0:43 i thought he was reaching for his belt for a second.
He was gounna get a godly ass whooping
instant flashback
Lmao
Welp not unseeing that
@@guyguy5201 You're welcome.
the last thing i expected to happen is for Atreus to attack Kratos i mean thats just crazy
i mean he already did that in the first game tho
I mean you gotta remember no matter what he's sees from kratos he'll always be dad not the guy who killed a whole pantheon
@@garytaylor8193 thats true
I mean, he's done it multiple times before.
I love how brok tries to keep sindri humble, and not to hold any grudges. In the end, he was always looking out for his little brother
You know its an arguement when kratos picks up mimir's head
"He'll only cloud your mind," said Tyr.
"This is why Odin tortured me," said Tyr.
2:23 you know Kratos is very damn pissed off if he’s not calling Atreus by his name
Ong I peeped that, he hasn’t called him boy since 2018 gow
2:22
you mean "boy", it signifies the state when "he's not ready", the small detail when he called him boy just before Atreus tried to use the realm door signifies that Kratos thinks Atreus is not yet ready to confront his own fate
he calls Atreus "son" when he's proud of him or if he's about to convey something serious
2:01 his damn nose 😂
😂
Mimir letting his Celebrimbor out.
cultured man
OUR DRAUPNIR IS PERFECT, KRATOS
Indeed
THE PALANTHIR, KRATOS. WE NEED IT!
It’s crazy watching this scene again knowing that’s actually Odin in tyrs form
Sindri and Brok working together and thinking up things to make is my favorite thing.
Even Mimir was pissed at Atreus.
Atreus is super aggravating in this game. He was basically doing to Sindri what Odin has been doing to the dwarves and everyone else forever. Take take take, use use use. I feel the worst for Sindri by games end though.
It’s annoying he lies a thousand times then gets mad nobody trusts him.. THEN blames Kratos for lying first.. who had GOOD REASON TO LIE. And he forgets kratos TOLD THE TRUTH AT THE END.
@@noahbusch7542 we saw the comment the first time
@@noahbusch7542 Jesus Christ kid say it once and be done with it
I mean, there is no excuse to being a manlet in this game.
@@noahbusch7542 it meant to fit his character as Loki. The God of mischief.
When brok said wtf I kind of laughed but rip rindri bro he got knocked out
Tyr saying "he'll only cloud your mind" is iconic
Sindri is just the punching bag in both Norse games and I’m happy it had an effect on him. Would’ve been easier to just make it a joke or to have an apology be accepted and everyone’s back to being buds. But no. You’re not gonna forgive someone who invited the guy who murders your brother into your home just because he says sorry. Such a great game.
"I'm sure I will. Eventually." yikes that stung in hindsight
Honestly i can't stand Atranus at times he goes from one bad idea to another and expects everyone to forgive him when he's sorry.
Ok i have a random question by the way i know not alot about the lore in the first game so i am trying to piece it together but wouldn't be also kratos fault to? Like i am not saying he is a bad father its just that i think he has bad communication and thats where atreus learned it from and also all of them ganging up on a teenager isnt really helping either
@@kahlilraya6670 kratos was terrible at communicating with atreus, BUT he definitely got better at it since the last game. it's not perfect communication since they still argue/disagree alot but you can see how much he's changed since gow 2018. atreus may feel like they're ganging up on him and they are but to them, it's for his own safety that they knock sense into him. because from their perspective, he's trying to do everything on his own and they know it's going to get him killed. kratos isn't helping, yeah but he doesn't want to lose his family again. he lost his wife and daughter before, he's lost faye so he doesn't want to lose his son. that's why he's so overprotective and atreus feels like he's always controlling him ?
I mean welcome to being a teenager. Add a bunch of traumatic events happening every 10 minutes and bad decision making is bound to happen.
@@MayMissYumi I mean he went missing for two whole days and expects everyone to stop asking and just trust him when he comes back. Kratos was totally valid with how he reacted.
@@lumenx7499 i literally didn't say it wasn't? if you actually read my comment, it says " it's for his own safety that they knock sense into him. because from their perspective, he's trying to do everything on his own and they know it's going to get him killed" meaning their reactions are normal.
"You just take and take and take and what do I get in the end? Not even my family"
"I thought we were his family too..."
*_"We were."_*
I kinda love how when mimir starts scolding atreus Kratos picks him up
Because sindri use to be atreus partner in crime.. he felt betrayed when atreus didnt listen to him.. he thought atreus is his close friend who would listen to him.. prolly
I can see why Sindri was mad about the whole thing with Brok. Atreus let Tyr into his home without his permission, only to end up with his brother dying because it was a facade by Odin. And to make matters worse, he was THE ONLY ONE with Brok when he died and had to BEG Freya to help. Kratos was the only one who NEEDED to be dealing with Odin, the only one qualified, but every let their hatred for Odin overcome them while their friend and HOST bled out behind them.
"THAT's what comes next..."
the most badass line of 2022
0:42 god damn
Chill tf down Atreus
Also 2:22 gives me chills
The way he says BOY
You know you are in trouble when someone calls you by your full name
Kratos : BOYYYY !
I love that Kratos hold Mimir so he can be fully facing the conversation.
I really want to see a villainous arc come for Sindri. Like they did a great job of leading events up to it. Like a certain someone not attending a certain characters funeral and another "characters" betrayal.
If he does go bad there is one thing he could acquire that could be a game changer especially in the hands of a master blacksmith, and that's what's left of the blade of Olympus, its drained of power but it was able to contain all the power of a god and while empowered it was able to take down some of the strongest enemies Kratos faced.
He would have to travel to what's left of Olympus but its definitely doable.
@@samvanroon5041 and how
@@The_Menendez considering that the giants escaped out of the nine realms and atreus is following them... sigrid might do the same except go to olympus
@@richardricafort6631 they didn't escape the nine realms they just hide in marbles by getting their soul knitted there
@@The_Menendez I mean, they literally said it in the game and the reason atreus is splitting up from kratos at the end
Man i swear atreus is the only person who can mad at Kratos without getting half ripped
i mean, he is lucky to not get belt of chaosed, also, sindri, brok, mimir, and freya also can, since kratos considers them family, to a point where freya put atreus life in risk, and yet, kratos pourposly did not retaliate in a way that could perma hurt her
Look at the lighting 😩😩😩 this game is beautiful!!
Sindris face up close is actually really cute-
My heart melted from the thumbnail 😭
i don't understand why atreus didn't have more of a reaction to seeing freya in the house... at this point, he surely would've been surprised to see her and kratos as allies rather than her trying to kill him. i get the situation called for a different circumstance but still, i feel it wouldve been more consistent to the story if atreus had some surprise about seeing freya.
At this point of the story, he's too caught up in who he thinks he's meant to be. He talks about feeling confused at seeing Freya with Kratos later on after the incident when he's alone, but brushes the thought off and focuses on doing his own thing.
I hate that Brok died especially after that heartwarming scene between him and Kratos when they get the new spear
What if the green fissure Odin's so obsessed about was just the internet? Poor bastard just didn't have wifi 😂😂😂
All of this stuff he did just to be able to googling.
ODIN : "Imagine!!! all answers in the palm of your hand"
ME : "Yeah, this device on my palm literally answer everything. You need WIFI tho"
@@snails6997 "A source of infinite knowledge, answers to all questions" Sums up google pretty much 😂😂😂
Odin should've had Nord VPN™️ with the ability to browse anonymously Brok wouldn't have been able to sus out his plans and could've been anywhere in the 9 realms
it's like the aleph in the story by jorge luis borges, it's a point where you see all of space and all of time when you look into it, you would probably go mad looking into it
Tyr: he’ll only cloud your mind. Also tyr who somehow still has his arm: don’t be suspicious don’t be suspicious
The real one still has his arm, Mimir said it grew back after his journey in Egypt, most likely an Egyptian god offered to regrow his arm since it has hieroglyph markings on it
wait he lost his arm in this game? I thought he wouldn't since Fenrir was just a small wolf before everything happened.
@@riverajustinmarks. no it’s just something that happened to tyr so when I saw his arm back I was suspicious
@@darkemperortheobscureone694 and now kratos can go destroy the gods of egypt
@@yellowconsole5631 Probably Atreus goes there to find remaining Giants, does something stupid, Kratos comes along to bail him out. Hopefully he can make peace with that Pantheon.
The writing is superb in this game. The conversation is so realistic, you can tell that there are people on the writing staff with teenage kids. "Oh, so everybody's against me now!" Such a typical thing to say at that age lol.
Atreus doesn't even say sorry to sindri,he did say sorry when it was too late
if kratos yelling at me like that i woulve gotten out of there as well
2:24 the stance of a dad who’s ready to whip out the belt
Atreus would never have the courage to try this shit with Greek Kratos, he'd be speaking sign language💀
Odin standing in the background pretending he isn't there
2:22 i'll be scared af too if kratos yells to me that way hahaha
if younger Kratos shouts like that you'd better just run and stay out of his way
3:08 i love how smart this game portrays Brok, If he was a figther and actually got training i think he would been a respectable foe
Atreus could've just said "I didn't go to asgard, but I can't tell you where I went because I am holding a promise someone is trusting me to keep."
Biedny Sindri, pod koniec gry ma już samo cierpienie na twarzy, bardzo mi go żal
2:22 this is so nostalgic
Kratos freya and atreus planning to kill odin and stop ragnarok.
Tyr(odin): I love my jop
Ah yes the best jop ever
I think Sindri is the last GOW protagonist character I'd want to be angry at me. Yeah, Kratos is scary and so is Freya, but Sindri is so kind, and he didn't get angry when bratty young Atreus started mouthing off at him in the previous game. I'd be hella sad if someone like him starts hating every cell in my body.
also... HE FUCKING DESTROYED THE ASGARD WALL AND THE WAR MACHINE QUITE EASILY, and he teleports, and can make deadly shit
Fucking Odin winking at 5:38 as he repeats the speech he gave to Atreus about the mask. All-Fucker's basically winking at US on second viewing
2:57 He speaking facts tho. The man literally beat Zeus, the guy who was feared by all other gods
There could be a DLC for Atreus story or Krastos story that could go deep into the relationship between Sindri with Kratos and Atreus after Brok's death. Maybe the DLC could reveal the next land that Atreus or Kratos participated in. I'm not sure my theories are correct but since there are only 2 parts of Kratos adventure in Norse Mythology. So either there will be a DLC about Sindri or the next game will be.
5:50 i like how you can hear the asgard theme in the background hinting at tyr's identity
Poor Sindri didn’t deserve to get hit like that.
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Especially what happened to him after that the man has suffered a lot
You clearly deserved a lot more than what he got. I hope he and Atreus work things out at least
nah it's deserved annoying character should've died instead of brok
@@draven4861 not a fan of germaphobes, I guess.
@@aidenparker5955 Nothing will make him forgive anything un...
Okay Brok was wrong at the end of that line. When Atreus went Bear (he still had no control over that form due to shifting in rage) Beartreus actually swatted him like a fly in his face.
I wanna give sindri a hug bro😭😭😭
Everyone seems to think Sindri turned on Atreus solely because of Brok's death. The truth, I think it started right at the moment they had that argument. He knew what Atreus was doing was reckless but Atreus basically just kept giving him the middle finger every time he tried to help him. He even got mauled by Atreus in bear form. Even if Brok had lived I think he would have still reached a breaking point because of how sick he was of not getting any recognition for his kindness. Which is something he later brings up when telling Kratos and Atreus off
Kratos: single dad
Mimir: the uncle
Sindri: that one tita trying to talk to a teen in a rebellious phrase. (at the start)
Tyr: he reminds me of that chill hoise keeper at home who just watches chaos unfold.
Atreus: kid in rebellious phrase.
So is Freya the step-mom trying to care for rebellious step son?
@@chiefkeef74 The divorced lady that hangs out with a widowed single dad, and that wise uncle. LMAO
But that works too.
Sindri did not deserve that.
Kratos, make boy appologise and make Sindri our friend again!
Sindri was definitely my favorite character by far. Hopefully in the next GoW, he finds peace.
when atreus said "i was only thinking of going to odin" even odin disguised as tyr was like "for real?" 1:11
I feel bad for sindri and I hope he, atreus and kratos can make amends and be friends again
On top of keeping Iron Wood a secret, even if he was only keeping a promise; Atreus did kinda give Sindri a ton of reasons to be sore
It’s fascinating to me that Odin is a foil to both Atreus AND Kratos. Vaguely spoilery ahead, be advised.
Atreus seeks truth, information, self discovery, and the answer to his fate. Discovering that his fate will lead to something horrific leads to terrible consequences for him and others (as he perceives it). Odin is much the same. But Odin’s reactions closed his heart to the feelings of others. Atreus chose to empathize, and this helped him steer his fate. Turning what was foreseen to happen into a future of his design.
As for Kratos, they are near polar opposites. All the same they have their through-lines. They are both fathers to cantankerous sons. Both in the position to guide their families and forces. Both weathered with age, and the wisdom of Godly virtue. However, where Kratos accepts that his actions have consequences, works to answer for them and learns to break the chains of hatred, Odin is blinded by his singular obsession with the Truth. He cannot see the harm his quest is causing others.
This gets further emphasized by their approach to destiny. Kratos understands that futures and fates are often muddied and misunderstood by their presentation, so he changes his fate not by actively fighting it, but ignoring it to make decisions of his own choosing and reasoning. Living IN the moment, future be damned. Odin takes the information of the future as gospel and obsesses over ways to destroy paths to it. This unknowingly sets down the bricks of the road to Ragnarok with his same actions.
So saying, Kratos ignores that there is a prophecy, while Odin ignores that there is a choice.
I could talk about how Odin is driving his family apart while Kratos is trying to forge a family, or how Kratos LEADS his army while Odin hides behind his…but it is the idea of Fate that binds the three together, and their perception of it forges their futures. Ultimately, that is my point.
You are not bound by Fate unless you let yourself be bound. You *always* have a choice, and your actions *always* have a consequence, both to yourself and others.
The point of this game’s story is to teach Atreus that very lesson.
Man i really hate what they did to sindri. At first i loved it, he was getting brave and was very happy and it was so pleasing to see. Then things went donwhill real fast and real hard. It was especially sad to me because i lost my brother, so i understand it all too well.