I Challenged the StarCraft Speedrun Ace to a Race

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
  • The rematch has happened and it was incredible! If you want to watch it in full you can do so here! ruclips.net/user/liveKm3JMx-vOTM
    Really big thanks to my Patrons for early feedback on this video. I had never done storytelling like this before and their feedback made it a lot easier to follow.
    Want to watch the full run? The full vod is available here: • I Challenged The Brood...
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Комментарии • 201

  • @GiantGrantGames
    @GiantGrantGames  Месяц назад +301

    The rematch has happened and it was incredible! If you want to watch it in full you can do so here! ruclips.net/user/liveKm3JMx-vOTM
    And you can watch the original run in full here: ruclips.net/video/6zlyJJdPwew/видео.html

    • @GK_GAMES
      @GK_GAMES Месяц назад +6

      But Grant, I already watched that one.
      Thanks for the content ♥

    • @SleepLessThan3
      @SleepLessThan3 Месяц назад

      You already know im watching this video and then rewatching the vod right after 😂

    • @theindustrialidiot1472
      @theindustrialidiot1472 Месяц назад

      The Return of the KIng!

    • @pokemonduck
      @pokemonduck Месяц назад

      whoooo Starcraft Summer :D

  • @samuelhawkins3820
    @samuelhawkins3820 Месяц назад +502

    And so begins Giant Grant Games Massive Mod Madness Super Summer Shindig (GGGMMMSSS)
    And it starts with a banger

    • @1Notten
      @1Notten Месяц назад +10

      Or 3(GMS)

    • @mapron1
      @mapron1 Месяц назад +22

      @@1Notten 3 GMS is Giant Massive Super Grant Mod Summer Games Mod Shindig.

    • @cptKamina
      @cptKamina Месяц назад +7

      @@mapron1 Just really rolls off the tongue doesn't it?

    • @poiuyt975
      @poiuyt975 Месяц назад +3

      @@cptKamina Is rolls THE tongue. :D

    • @Kilmori
      @Kilmori Месяц назад +1

      ​@@mapron1 Somehow that works equally as well

  • @huynhphucm445
    @huynhphucm445 Месяц назад +201

    Ace being nuked all of his production buildings, then his muta flocks died by rocket barrage is the hardest speedrun twist in the BW mass recall history

    • @bl-rp
      @bl-rp 22 дня назад +2

      That's a very niche genre of twists.

  • @Wendy-zhou
    @Wendy-zhou Месяц назад +199

    Grant messing up and somehow somewhat results in a more sucessful move is a theme that i never thought i'd see in any media but here it is i guess, amazing

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales Месяц назад +14

      Each time gets progressively better runs

    • @Bluebedo
      @Bluebedo Месяц назад +4

      Task successfully failed.

    • @BoBoPriCer
      @BoBoPriCer Месяц назад +2

      Messing up and somehow winning is his signature move

    • @belisarian6429
      @belisarian6429 29 дней назад +1

      I guess it shows how far he has gotten in terms of his skills, adaptability and keeping his cool, I mean there are lot of players that excel when everything goes according to their plan but players who can salvage bad game are much more rare.

  • @GerMorden
    @GerMorden Месяц назад +112

    To think that Ace lost due to getting MELTED by a meme ability is peak Starcraft, ngl.

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva Месяц назад +5

      "by a meme ability"
      You wanna explain that?

    • @GerMorden
      @GerMorden Месяц назад +44

      It costs plenty of energy to deal with light air units in average area - and those are very rarely the issue for the BC, while the alternatives are the Yamato Cannon (which allows to deal with actual threats, including ground) and Defence Matrix (that gives 300 HP in a pinch). It's not worth it - so no one actually remembers about it's existence until your muta stacks get hit by one in custom campaign.

    • @michol3235
      @michol3235 Месяц назад +3

      @@GerMorden or the ability is given to a ground unit or autocast with no energy cost

    • @GerMorden
      @GerMorden Месяц назад +8

      @@michol3235 anything with no energy cost is not a meme.
      Predators are not a meme in like good chunk of the mods too.
      Doesn't stop any of these being awful in vanilla, tho.

  • @lol-sg2km
    @lol-sg2km Месяц назад +201

    Hey Grant. Just wanna say that it's great you're back. I've been really missing your videos.

    • @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598
      @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 Месяц назад +25

      Oh! He's REALLY back. He hasn't been posting much recently because he was banking video to push them weekly for the whole summer. So, expect more soon.

    • @shadowpriest2574
      @shadowpriest2574 Месяц назад +20

      He keeps making videos on his second channel.

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner Месяц назад +19

      He has daily uploads on his second channel

    • @nikitosha1000
      @nikitosha1000 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelMiner he had a break there too

    • @realLagMaster
      @realLagMaster Месяц назад +2

      He never left. Just worked in the background!

  • @queraycha
    @queraycha Месяц назад +19

    Grant is a true shonen character, he was behind during the whole race, but took the lead at the very last moment, when it mattered the most, thanks to the power of friendship (and a nuke on his opponent)

  • @GodammmitKalcour
    @GodammmitKalcour Месяц назад +8

    There's an irony in the fact a mission called "True Colors" having to be color corrected

  • @TheHappy115
    @TheHappy115 Месяц назад +12

    Probably the biggest difference is the damage calculation.
    I.E. Hydralisk deals 10 explosive damage in Broodwar. (reduced by 75% to medium, and 50% to small)
    In mass recall it instead deals 10 damage, (7.5 to medium, 5 to small).
    This may seem like the same, but when armor and splash comes into play, makes a large difference. Broodwar will calculate this % reduction after the initial armor reduction while SC2 calculates it before.
    So, if said Hydralisk attacks a "Marine" (Small) with 2 armor upgrades, in Broodwar it will deal 4 damage to it, while in SC2 it will deal 3 damage instead. I'm unsure how SC2 calculates 0.5 damage (I think it rounds down?), but SC1 does count half damage points. It will also still deal 0.5 damage in cases where only 0.25 damage is dealt too.

    • @evernewb2073
      @evernewb2073 Месяц назад +2

      I believe sc2 counts every 0.25 damage and truncates anything past that ie: "rounds down" the processing and memory efficient way, rounding vs truncating is surprisingly resource expensive in computers even nowdays since it means a few extra steps come into play with _every_ interaction with the variable that has been flagged for it.
      ...more accurately I believe that the numbers on the game displays aren't quite the numbers that the game is actually running and it is instead truncating _everything_ and then kajigering things at the endpoint to produce a mostly accurate display.
      I am also unsure if this is modifiable, half a point of armor would make for a surprisingly useful balance tool with how it runs those damage reductions.

  • @apollothefirst
    @apollothefirst Месяц назад +224

    Wake up babe, GGG just uploaded

    • @Szokynyovics
      @Szokynyovics Месяц назад +3

      I'm here Honey!! 😅

    • @kyou4145
      @kyou4145 Месяц назад +3

      Exactly, my life my continue :)

    • @jorgenkolaas9451
      @jorgenkolaas9451 Месяц назад

      Kggsktsltzøu pjcivåiåhæjxmdtmwns gw wvrsnydæivoå våibihåiglydøy😅

    • @damiens4601
      @damiens4601 Месяц назад +1

      He uploaded yesterday too

    • @adlad1563
      @adlad1563 Месяц назад +2

      No that was on the secret channel (can't tell anyone about it)

  • @PeklyCZ
    @PeklyCZ Месяц назад +62

    Just wanted to go sleep after night shift....welll.....i can wait a little longer.

  • @ahmadtarek7763
    @ahmadtarek7763 Месяц назад +3

    I find it hilarious that grant's mistakes often lead to an unexpected advantage, he is truly favored by the Xelnaga.

  • @mistressofthenekos1743
    @mistressofthenekos1743 Месяц назад +6

    This is so cool, not only because I absolutely LOVE Mass Recall, but I recently showed a friend who had never played SC before the Mass Recall mod (because he wanted to play the Brood War campaign but didn’t want to deal with the jankiness of the original StarCraft). Seeing you guys do the race on my favorite part of Mass Recall especially after I completed it only recently was AMAZING

  • @Shadesight
    @Shadesight Месяц назад +19

    Good format Grant. Also, good competition - I remember watching the start of the competition day-of, before needing to go run errands or something and just being *so* impressed by the sportsmanship between the two of you.

  • @AnnoLP
    @AnnoLP 29 дней назад +3

    I dont comment often.
    And I am late to the rerun.
    But THANKS for splitting the time zones so detailed. A lot of americans just post their time and call it a day. Even the different european time formats. LOVE IT

  • @tumate45
    @tumate45 Месяц назад +26

    I thought this is a new challenge, but realised it's the main channel 😄
    Go watch his archive people in splitscreen, it was fun and really close one

  • @tuckerwilliams849
    @tuckerwilliams849 Месяц назад +8

    I’d love to see more stuff like this, using the starcraft knowledge you’ve gained from your challenge runs to go head to head with other challenge runners

  • @chocodono2146
    @chocodono2146 Месяц назад +2

    Love this new style of content, keep up the great work man :)

  • @pokemonduck
    @pokemonduck Месяц назад +1

    Great video and thanks for putting up the times in multiple timezones!

  • @Lyemboun
    @Lyemboun Месяц назад +11

    Saves are only working if you load the next mission instead of continuing from the victory screen.

  • @bonbondurjdr6553
    @bonbondurjdr6553 Месяц назад +3

    Making us discover more StarCraft peeps is super cool man! Nice race! Fun stuff!

  • @toxikvik6193
    @toxikvik6193 Месяц назад +10

    The end was pure cinema omg

  • @Uterr
    @Uterr 24 дня назад

    Lol, this was epic. Hope to see next round, too! Not in a form of stream, but condensed digest, like this one! love it!

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Месяц назад +9

    *It would be fun if you took speed runners in one RTS game and stuck them in another RTS game. See how they react!*
    I remember playing Age of Empires and Battle for Middle Earth in my youth, then getting dunked into StarCraft 2. It was a culture shock for sure, but a lot of mechanics transferred over!

    • @aristocraticcthulhu3831
      @aristocraticcthulhu3831 Месяц назад +2

      Battle for Middle Earth was so good and had some very fun custom PVP maps. One of my favorites was a tower defense one.

  • @KD8_NotTheShoes
    @KD8_NotTheShoes Месяц назад

    what a sick vod! thanks for this

  • @TheRealXartaX
    @TheRealXartaX Месяц назад

    This was enjoyable. I'd enjoy watching the raw full thing as well. Head to head is entertaining.

  • @Hrolfgord
    @Hrolfgord Месяц назад

    Really excited to see the rematch loved watching this event great video thanks Grant!!

  • @thatfierydragon
    @thatfierydragon Месяц назад +1

    Great video, really fun to watch!

  • @mortegon583
    @mortegon583 Месяц назад

    Was a fantastic run to watch the vod of and just as good a video now

  • @maropas123
    @maropas123 Месяц назад +4

    for the loading meassurements You could get the mean of loading time of (eg.) the first mission and use it as standarised value instead of actual throughout the run

  • @CorrectHorseBatteryStaple472
    @CorrectHorseBatteryStaple472 Месяц назад +1

    Love to see Ace having fun with something that's not just his speedrun!

    • @7thAce
      @7thAce 27 дней назад +2

      It's so different! I've really diversified with this Brood War Zerg Speedrun here!

  • @Ljarvisone
    @Ljarvisone Месяц назад

    this was a really cool idea, thankyou to both of you for this.

  • @liamholt5623
    @liamholt5623 Месяц назад

    Hope you had a brilliant vacay Grant! Your videos have been sorely missed!

  • @albertoagnello1113
    @albertoagnello1113 Месяц назад +1

    Ok, series of small video of Speedrun race in different variation of normal campain
    Like speedrun "Wings of liberty Zerg edition" You know the missions, you know the races, the strategy is new.
    Realy fun video and interesting strats, can't wait for Saturday

  • @ts2ep8nl1f
    @ts2ep8nl1f Месяц назад +1

    "Units going where you tell them to" as a Brood War mass Dragoon player, this hits hard

  • @Th3hun13r
    @Th3hun13r Месяц назад +1

    So ive watched your vid of the race. Seen the split screen if both perspectives, but i gotta say, love this commentary

  • @sorcerross140
    @sorcerross140 Месяц назад

    I loved the timezone screen. That was so nice. A quality of life update which makes it so much better

  • @shamefulbrainbot4742
    @shamefulbrainbot4742 Месяц назад +1

    This felt just like a movie dude, i was shaking in my boot the whole time

  • @eclipseeffigy
    @eclipseeffigy Месяц назад

    Holy moly what a storyline throughout the whole thing. GG WP!!

  • @user-qq8pe6zj8l
    @user-qq8pe6zj8l Месяц назад

    good shit keep it up i love this new format

  • @Nekoyashiki-san
    @Nekoyashiki-san 17 дней назад

    That challenge run was great to watch! ^^
    Thanks for the fun. :)

  • @vumasster
    @vumasster Месяц назад +7

    You leave me no choice! Sad goodbye to your constituent Mass Recall speedrun!

  • @gressorialNanites
    @gressorialNanites Месяц назад +2

    Grant, allow me to thank you massively for putting the time in many of the timezones. You have no idea how annoying it is when every American just assumes that I know what each of their three-letter abbreviations mean. I'll definitely try to be there for your next race!

  • @MichaelFlitzerLPWinter
    @MichaelFlitzerLPWinter Месяц назад

    this is so exiting! i deffinitly gonna watch this!

  • @jarrakul
    @jarrakul Месяц назад

    Awesome runs, both of you. Looking forward to the rematch.

  • @much7395
    @much7395 Месяц назад

    Loved the idea for this and can't wait to see the rematch

  • @Pro_Triforcer
    @Pro_Triforcer Месяц назад +1

    Having to use color correction on a mission called "True Colors" is funny

  • @danielhale1
    @danielhale1 Месяц назад

    Really nice of Mengsk to come in clutch for Grant. :D
    Holy cats what a ride. All the uncertainty is definitely the determining factor, and if you had more knowledge going in, you'd have both done a ton better. I look forward to hearing how the rematch goes!

  • @johncrichton5767
    @johncrichton5767 16 дней назад

    This was somehow more gripping than most of the movies Ive watched recently, well done!

  • @dillzilla4454
    @dillzilla4454 Месяц назад

    i think grant has a massive advantage with the mass recall twist just in that he was played so many modded versions of every campaign that he naturally is just better at approaching surprises

  • @jasond7016
    @jasond7016 Месяц назад +3

    I really thought in that 10000 mineral mission if you infest all the command centers it automatically gives you the 10000 minerals. Maybe misremembering

  • @sethb3090
    @sethb3090 Месяц назад

    Grant is back and this video did not disappoint!

  • @DemiZenith
    @DemiZenith Месяц назад +3

    Definitely down for more Race with Ace.

  • @arasgee9184
    @arasgee9184 Месяц назад +2

    Just woke up in the morning, gotta thank Grant!

  • @Planktonium00
    @Planktonium00 Месяц назад +1

    How ironic that Grant got saved by missle pods

  • @Antare5
    @Antare5 Месяц назад +2

    RUclips's new "end card" behavior has been real annoying, nearly obscuring the game changing Mutalisk wipe.
    That aside, this was such a cool idea for a race with the sheer amount of improvisation that it naturally forces. Great vods and a great seeing the composed version here to see what was going on between both runs.
    Can't wait to watch the rematch!

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier Месяц назад

      RUclips is so focused on keeping engagement and funneling you to the next video that they don't even let you see the ending of the one you're watching.

  • @unforgivengaming8793
    @unforgivengaming8793 Месяц назад

    This was a great video grant

  • @sanliwang5714
    @sanliwang5714 19 дней назад

    Really love your streams on SC2. Playing this game for 10 years never learned so much, especially the cheeeeese

  • @Mythmaker12687
    @Mythmaker12687 Месяц назад

    That last mission was crazy. Ace had a lead from the beginning, but just couldn't seal it.
    Can hardly wait for the rematch!

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Месяц назад

    I just realized Ace sounds exactly like young Spoony.
    It's like I'm listening to him doing Ripper commentary all over again.

  • @philiptetherow71
    @philiptetherow71 Месяц назад

    Glad I saw this. I'm gonna start one myself tonight I think.

  • @judjementine
    @judjementine Месяц назад

    Dang got a birthday party saturday but i'll gladly catch the vod!

  • @JollyGreenWizard
    @JollyGreenWizard Месяц назад

    Took me all the way to the end to realize this was on the main channel - I just thought it was a recap on the archive!

  • @miguellemir242
    @miguellemir242 Месяц назад

    You know? For years I had wondered which bit of the OG Ultralisk was its head. Thanks to the thumbnail now I now xD!

  • @vaniellys
    @vaniellys Месяц назад

    Grant is THE MAN, I'm sure he's gonna win.

  • @SkyKing1225
    @SkyKing1225 Месяц назад

    Damn, now that i know what 2pm Pacific time means for me, might actually come watch in 3 1/2 hours

  • @mbag012
    @mbag012 Месяц назад

    This is awesome

  • @somedude4087
    @somedude4087 Месяц назад +3

    looking on the thumbnail
    I'll fear the zergling more than an ultralisk
    and not for the memes

    • @VeryPeeved
      @VeryPeeved Месяц назад +1

      Well if it's a race, then of course you'd bet on the zergling.

  • @theoverarch6909
    @theoverarch6909 Месяц назад

    I will really enjoy this summer

  • @liltimmah
    @liltimmah 7 дней назад

    ooo im looking forward to the cut of the rematch :D

  • @antitimese8862
    @antitimese8862 Месяц назад

    I believe that on Omega in Mass Recall (at least when I played it a few years ago) the UED hero Battlecruiser is bugged and will never be sent to attack your base like the other two heroes. This makes it probably more advantageous to go for Mengsk or the Protoss first. Mengsk especially is dangerous because of nukes and irradiate. It took me ages to beat that mission, even on normal.

  • @solar3clipseproductions
    @solar3clipseproductions Месяц назад +12

    You have the most soothing voice man, so nice

  • @garygordle5146
    @garygordle5146 Месяц назад

    i saw this and was like “aw, thought today was another wings of memes” then it was a treat!

  • @Siptom369
    @Siptom369 29 дней назад +1

    This was fantastic

  • @mvmitemwall948
    @mvmitemwall948 Месяц назад

    first time ive seen grant he looks like such a friendly guy

  • @dodojesus4529
    @dodojesus4529 Месяц назад

    This was definetly a race of all time

  • @ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman
    @ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman Месяц назад

    Big, Brave and Bold Grant

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer Месяц назад

    This was great

  • @boodotcom7399
    @boodotcom7399 Месяц назад +1

    I was gonna say where can I watch 7thAce’s perspective, then I notice its half an hour long. Then noticed that this is NOT the Archives. Then realizing that I have watched the VOD. I just fell asleep.
    Thankfully I managed to watch the whole thing, the VOD btw, and I can confidently say that Zerg wins this speedrun.

  • @calebgonzalez599
    @calebgonzalez599 Месяц назад

    This Ombudsman is excited for Giant Grant Games Massive Mod Madness Super Summer Shindig!

  • @angel30382
    @angel30382 Месяц назад

    BABE WAKE UP NEW GIANT GRANT GAMES VIDEO JUST DROPPED

  • @TheNobody1324
    @TheNobody1324 Месяц назад

    Remember to get your antennae upgrade before ventral sacs

  • @polyacov_yury
    @polyacov_yury Месяц назад

    Here's hoping that the stream will have a similar retrospective afterwards

  • @satanos6
    @satanos6 Месяц назад

    Didn't know Dave Mustaine was into Starcraft, pretty cool!

  • @craigrobbins2463
    @craigrobbins2463 8 дней назад

    This was really cool.

  • @SleepyBear_SB
    @SleepyBear_SB Месяц назад +9

    When does the giant grant games massive summer shindig begin?

  • @ethanaleman
    @ethanaleman Месяц назад

    Will watch the rematch

  • @TheSuperappelflap
    @TheSuperappelflap Месяц назад +2

    Less than 5 minutes into the video and Grant already has massive time loss from not saving the game. If anything, he is consistent.

  • @MineLoadGermany
    @MineLoadGermany Месяц назад +1

    i usually never like but you are the exception.

  • @Basillic
    @Basillic Месяц назад

    1 Thumbnail, 1 Intrusive Thought, 2 words
    Size Difference

  • @KomRade493
    @KomRade493 Месяц назад +1

    You forgot to say... GG..G

  • @JaketheSnake753
    @JaketheSnake753 Месяц назад

    I can't make the stream but spiritually I'll be there.

  • @owenlai1893
    @owenlai1893 Месяц назад

    truly tragic to lose because of missile pods

  • @eglewether5523
    @eglewether5523 Месяц назад

    So those overlords with mutas did actually help :D

  • @DissarayJay
    @DissarayJay 20 дней назад

    Grants ability to make a nice video out of this is outstanding, watching it live was very boring, since they both were so concentrated they didnt really talk or paid much attention. But Grant does it again and makes a masterful edit out of a 3h slug.

  • @weltsiebenhundert
    @weltsiebenhundert Месяц назад

    27:00 Microsoft making a Startcraft 2 - that broke me..

  • @sebastienlecoq3956
    @sebastienlecoq3956 Месяц назад

    Well, I guess I would have to stay up late Saturday

  • @aitordominguezcomin9147
    @aitordominguezcomin9147 Месяц назад

    giant is baaaacckkk!!!

  • @Mistersheeaun
    @Mistersheeaun Месяц назад

    hell yeah boii

  • @vukanmisic7369
    @vukanmisic7369 Месяц назад

    we are so back