Why South Korea Censors its Maps

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 2 тыс.

  • @teddyh_
    @teddyh_ 4 года назад +8917

    A Korean person here; South Korean citizens actually protested the censorship of Google Maps (mainly due to the fact that they could not play pokemon go, no joke) and the law was pretty close to making an exception for Google. However, those giants at Kakao and Naver lobbied the crap out of the government, and it is still censored.

    • @guhalaa
      @guhalaa 4 года назад +479

      I can attest that the former statement is 100% true.

    • @aaclovern9804
      @aaclovern9804 4 года назад +216

      Naver maps do suck though

    • @doctorjustice
      @doctorjustice 4 года назад +189

      Google wanted to take military sensitive raw data to a server outside of South Korean government jurisdiction. That's why the government forbade it.

    • @enginerd80
      @enginerd80 4 года назад +351

      @@doctorjustice What difference does it make where the servers are if the content is accessible worldwide? Sure, if things escalate into full war, the locally installed servers could be shut to make sure the enemy doesn't have access to the content, but wouldn't the enemy have used e.g. Naver maps to update their own maps beforehand? What kind of military would use any foreign civilian map app on smartphones during a full war, instead of preparing maps of their own beforehand?

    • @duckmeat4674
      @duckmeat4674 4 года назад +93

      @@enginerd80 you realise many many countries have laws specifically for keeping certain data in the country itself? Not to mention Google is avoiding paying taxes on said data/servers

  • @CSGhostAnimation
    @CSGhostAnimation 4 года назад +6676

    Pssst, change the title to: Why North Korea google maps is better than South Korea google maps
    Watch the views fly in :)

    • @Annyeong1
      @Annyeong1 4 года назад +273

      And that is actually true

    • @gloop3621
      @gloop3621 4 года назад +35

      It seriously is lmao

    • @heeheehawhawheehee
      @heeheehawhawheehee 4 года назад +8

      Yoooooooo

    • @Panzermeister36
      @Panzermeister36 4 года назад +47

      ...or just copy CGP Grey's character to lure in more views!
      Oh, wait.

    • @Trewita
      @Trewita 4 года назад +100

      @@Panzermeister36 i mean, is a stick figure, with glasses, anybody can do a stick figure with glasses, so, no, it really isn't, and because you don't have a lot of details about the other character, which is a stickman, any detail is going to be considered as a different character

  • @Andrerc0
    @Andrerc0 4 года назад +2965

    The fact the north korean pie has no topping made me laugh

    • @NilesBlackX
      @NilesBlackX 4 года назад +28

      Good catch 😆

    • @isaackarjala7916
      @isaackarjala7916 4 года назад +91

      It should just be an empty pie crust

    • @thanos4959
      @thanos4959 4 года назад +6

      Isaac Karjala yeah

    • @Soken50
      @Soken50 4 года назад +42

      but it's inaccurate, Kim has a great sweets factory, not many people benefit from it though :x

    • @brandonshin4808
      @brandonshin4808 4 года назад +3

      You just made me realize that!!! LOL

  • @waldevv
    @waldevv Год назад +35

    Looks like they changed it recently, now you can see locations and reviews but seems like directions still don't work

  • @communismwithgiggles2515
    @communismwithgiggles2515 4 года назад +396

    Could you imagine people mistakenly thinking North and South Korea are similar because of how google maps is censored?

    • @Sun-Tzu-
      @Sun-Tzu- 6 месяцев назад

      South Korea was a military dictatorship until the 90's.

  • @WimsicleStranger
    @WimsicleStranger 4 года назад +3876

    Fun fact about South Korea: A lot of infrastructure was constructed with the idea that they can also serve to slow down a North Korean invasion, with some major highways equipped with anti-tank obstacles above the road that can be blown up and made to collapse onto the road, and some bridges designed with specific spots where explosives can be placed to destroy the bridge.
    Although I think if NK did invade, their soldiers would defect upon seeing how much nicer it is down here lol

    • @wonsunnyday
      @wonsunnyday 4 года назад +477

      Theres an entire city (ilsan) thats designed so that the South korean military will have an upper hand in urban combat during an invasion

    • @lachychops2
      @lachychops2 4 года назад +305

      They must have some very grey haired engineers after designing bridges with few designed points of failure lol

    • @byeolmuri
      @byeolmuri 4 года назад +184

      imagine the war break out and as soon as the north korean soldiers cross the border they somehow become defectors XD

    • @airsoftphysik4342
      @airsoftphysik4342 4 года назад +211

      @@lachychops2 its actually quite common
      most bridges over the rhine here in germany are made like that, we also have tons of special obstacels all around the country to blow up roads, tunnels etc...

    • @stephhhie17
      @stephhhie17 4 года назад +75

      They have those in NK too, they also have certain bridges where there are these big blocks that are stacked on either side of the road, with wooden beams wedged under them so that they remain balanced. If the road needs to be blocked to advancing tanks, you destroy the wedges which disturbs and dislodges the unsteady blocks and they fall into the road. Still not as cool as dropping a whole overpass though!

  • @Space_Reptile
    @Space_Reptile 4 года назад +1216

    "about as useful as a map made of paper"
    so.... very useful actually

    • @CyberMew
      @CyberMew 4 года назад +51

      Yes! When compared to a paper map!

    • @toasterhavingabath6980
      @toasterhavingabath6980 4 года назад +18

      But also in the wind

    • @zero64
      @zero64 2 года назад +6

      ok boomer

    • @bobsondugnutt9914
      @bobsondugnutt9914 2 года назад +28

      The point is that the paper map will never update. You'll have an increasingly outdated and eventually obsolete map. That's why people used to buy a new Atlas every so often, because information changes. It also can't give directions, provide traffic information, business hours, or photos. A paper map also won't have as much details, such as side streets, addresses, etc.

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v 2 года назад +8

      @@bobsondugnutt9914 That usually takes decades to be outdated, and it wouldn't be off by a lot unless some major disaster happened that dramatically changed the landscape of a country/continent.

  • @xp_studios7804
    @xp_studios7804 4 года назад +551

    SK: you can't have accurate maps in the Republic of Korea
    Google: nooooooo you can't just take away the free dissemination of information nooooooooooooooooooo
    NK: you're banned here
    Google: We know

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff 4 года назад +17

      Seeing the abbreviations SK and NK instead of KR and KP was at first confusing.

    • @치킨레그
      @치킨레그 3 года назад +11

      there actually are very accurate maps in South Korea. Just not Google maps. We use naver maps here which are actually much better than google maps.

    • @xp_studios7804
      @xp_studios7804 3 года назад +2

      @@치킨레그 thanks, didn't know that!

    • @DrWhoFanJ
      @DrWhoFanJ 3 года назад +12

      @@Liggliluff Why KR and KP? I’ve never heard of those acronyms before!

    • @BuggyDClown-pc7sc
      @BuggyDClown-pc7sc 2 года назад +3

      @@DrWhoFanJ i guess one is korean republic and other is korean panda

  • @af5377
    @af5377 3 года назад +59

    Therapist: Tapakapa Valley Girl isn't real, he can't hurt you
    Tapakapa Valley Girl: 8:39

  • @모스크바
    @모스크바 2 года назад +33

    Guys! I'm so moved as a Korean right now. Google Maps in Korea has been updated! I can recognize the shape of the building, and I can recognize the road number and subway line! However, road information and navigation are not working, but it's still good that the map has been updated.

  • @randomcow505
    @randomcow505 4 года назад +585

    ive been trying to convince my chinese partner that something was wrong with google maps in korea for weeks and thought something seemed off about it for years now but could never quite tell what it was or if i was going crazy
    thanks!

    • @Halvtooth
      @Halvtooth 4 года назад +18

      you could probably google why google maps sucks in korea...and then realize u can use naver maps or kakaomaps instead

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v 2 года назад

      R*ce m*xing?

    • @SharpLCDTV
      @SharpLCDTV 2 года назад +3

      @@user-fe8gx3ie5v yes, and what’s the issue?

    • @louie2g
      @louie2g 2 года назад +2

      @@user-fe8gx3ie5v nothing wrong with it, people are people

    • @superieur11407
      @superieur11407 2 года назад +1

      @@user-fe8gx3ie5v There's no problem in race mixing

  • @fermiona0513
    @fermiona0513 4 года назад +644

    I am South Korean. Nobody uses Google map as a map.. it's not useful to us. We use map that made in Korea. ex) Naver map

    • @DawnMir
      @DawnMir 4 года назад +36

      ㅇㅇ 그래서 영상에서 구글꺼 안된다고 네이버나 카카오꺼 쓰라고 했잖슴

    • @fermiona0513
      @fermiona0513 4 года назад +43

      예시를 들어준거지이이이이ㅣㅣ잉

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад +7

      어쩐지 카카오 맵이 훨씬 좋더라

    • @tenbeuTV
      @tenbeuTV 4 года назад +23

      The Republic of Korea is a free democratic country, but it has no choice but to censor it for security because of the close war with North Korea.
      The South Korean government asked Google to identify military facilities.
      However, Google turned down the offer as an excuse for its right to know.
      Also, Google has asked for more accurate guidance from the Korean government, and Korea is a warring country, and cannot take accurate maps abroad. However, if you use Korea's Kakao Map and Naver Map, you can know exactly.
      (Google is not even covering satellite images of U.S. Forces Korea.) [Koreans are also aware of this. ]
      대한민국은 자유민주주의 국가이지만, 가까이 있는 북한과 전쟁 때문에 보안을 위해서 검열을 할 수 밖에 없다.
      한국정부는 군사시설을 가려달려고 구글에 요청했다.
      하지만, 구글은 알 권리를 위한다는 변명으로 거절했다.
      또한, 구글은 한국정부에 더 정확한 지도를 요구 했으며, 한국은 전쟁 중인 국가로서, 정확한 지도를 해외로 반출할 수 없다. 하지만, 한국의 카카오지도와 네이버지도 등을 이용한다면 정확히 알 수 있다.
      (구글은 심지어 주한미군부대 위성사진도 가리지 않고 있다.) [ 이 사실을 한국인들도 역시 알고 있다. ]

    • @Leeroywantsrx7
      @Leeroywantsrx7 4 года назад +12

      Dude that exactly what this vid is all about shutup and watch the video

  • @sbinnala5769
    @sbinnala5769 4 года назад +215

    Funnily enough, Apple Maps seems to have a dynamic map in South Korea with full walking and driving directions, yet doesn’t censor its satellite images. Hmm.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 4 года назад +30

      I doubt anyone trusts Apple Maps, so they are not seen as a threat in South Korea... or in any other country really.

    • @Tapakapa
      @Tapakapa  4 года назад +129

      They partly get their data from OpenStreetMap, a kind of Wikipedia for user-collected map data.

    • @prometheus7387
      @prometheus7387 4 года назад +4

      I am still then, confused why Google doesn't do the same. Why would only Google be fed with bad data?

    • @dansweatman3333
      @dansweatman3333 4 года назад +7

      @@prometheus7387 I'm not sure but I THINK it might be because some map companies put fake locations on their maps so they can tell if another company is illegally copying them by also having those fake locations that they wouldn't have if they actually did their own surveys. If Google used user generated map data, there would be no way to have those fake places, and anyone could copy google maps

    • @archkde
      @archkde 4 года назад +7

      Nah, I tried using Apple Maps here, it’s nowhere near as complete as Kakao or Naver.

  • @JoshuaDavies1979
    @JoshuaDavies1979 4 года назад +65

    I think China may have stopped shifting Google Maps unless I am mistaken. Case in point: I've been going to Shanghai for years and it has always been super-annoying to use shifted maps to locate anything (to the extent I'd shift back and forth between Google's and DiDi's maps to get an accurate idea where I actually was). Last December though, lo and behold- the Google Maps suddenly were showing my correct location. Maybe I just got lucky?

  • @hansonlee5847
    @hansonlee5847 2 года назад +147

    As a Korean American, I love that valley girl skit. I cannot say that I am surprised by South Korea's protectionism monopoly. It all comes down to how the South Korean modern economy was developed especially when these tech giants essentially dominate the South Korean market and contribute to South Korea's lion share of the GDP.

  • @vectorhacker-r2
    @vectorhacker-r2 4 года назад +3549

    DuckDuckGo, man of culture I see.

    • @TomJohnson67
      @TomJohnson67 4 года назад +22

      @Jonathan de Kock OceanHero too!

    • @persimmon93
      @persimmon93 4 года назад +51

      HERESY!! REPENT AND ACCEPT CHROME INTO YOUR HEARTS!!

    • @chuck_norris
      @chuck_norris 4 года назад +20

      Not as Good as Google but still good in 2nd place 🤣😂🤦‍♂️

    • @FancyLines
      @FancyLines 4 года назад +3

      Tom Johnson I don’t trust OceanHero when it comes to privacy.

    • @gammarayneutrino8413
      @gammarayneutrino8413 4 года назад +76

      @@chuck_norris
      DuckDuckGo gets data from Google as well as others, so it's actually better. And it also doesnt engineer search results for you soooo

  • @__nog642
    @__nog642 4 года назад +247

    I'm confused why can't Google just do the same thing in South Korea that they did in North Korea, having users fill in the map?

    • @Tapakapa
      @Tapakapa  4 года назад +205

      They totally could. Only, the resulting map would lack lots of details. Plus, it's illegal, and Google wouldn't want trouble with the South Korean government.

    • @__nog642
      @__nog642 4 года назад +57

      @@Tapakapa Ah, so they're not allowed to; I see. Thanks for replying.

    • @apeami8953
      @apeami8953 4 года назад +11

      so why are mapping platforms like OpenStreetMap have the data where it is all user-generated maps.

    • @ntdscherer
      @ntdscherer 4 года назад +36

      @@apeami8953 I'm guessing they have no presence in South Korea and don't care about pissing off the S. Korean government, whereas Google would like to keep a friendly relationship.

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 года назад +4

      @@Tapakapa kind of strange censoring crowd sourced map. This is equally the same as censoring free speech.

  • @Post_Stall_Maneuver
    @Post_Stall_Maneuver 4 года назад +18

    "When showing South Korean Military Bases-"
    *shows USAF Osan Air Base*
    Edit: A bit late, but South Korea adopted vector maps like the rest of the world.

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 4 года назад

      Well, that's as close as you can get
      Does google map show Camp Humphreys?

    • @Post_Stall_Maneuver
      @Post_Stall_Maneuver 4 года назад

      @@CBRN-115 It shows all maps of bases like the entirety of South Korea.
      The exception is the Google Earth Pro application, where South Korea is displayed with the same quality as anywhere else; high quality. This means bases like Camp Humphreys are in high-definition.

    • @GamjaField
      @GamjaField 4 года назад

      You can see the military bases and airports with high-res by just simply turning off the labels.

    • @hsh6036
      @hsh6036 4 года назад

      because you cannot show South Korean bases.

  • @violetkim2098
    @violetkim2098 4 года назад +72

    Lol, while I leisurely use Kakaomap and it even tells me when my bus will arrive and when the next subway train will come. Who needs Google map? 🤷‍♀️

    • @JasonNathanael
      @JasonNathanael 4 года назад +3

      Well those features actually work too with Google Maps in other countries (such as Japan). So, yeah :)

    • @orcas101
      @orcas101 4 года назад +6

      Violet Kim Google maps literally tells you the same thing lmao, you just haven’t experienced it cause it’s censored

    • @violetkim2098
      @violetkim2098 4 года назад +1

      @@orcas101 Do they tell you if the bus is full or not?

    • @orcas101
      @orcas101 4 года назад

      Violet Kim yea, users who use the route can input data on how packed the bus was and if there was delay

    • @violetkim2098
      @violetkim2098 4 года назад

      @@orcas101 so users have to do that???? The system won't do it itself?

  • @LucaWhittakerCamaiani
    @LucaWhittakerCamaiani 4 года назад +28

    I'm my experience visiting South Korea a few times, Naver Maps is usually the best option! Also side note, Uber is pretty bad over there. Kakao T is much better than Uber and does pretty much the same thing just cheaper and quicker.

    • @Dave-hn5tl
      @Dave-hn5tl 4 года назад +6

      Probably because taxi drivers over here threw a fuss over uber coming to South Korea (like everywhere else).

    • @powershin12
      @powershin12 4 года назад +2

      Uber became illegal in S. Korea...

    • @lorenzoporre8155
      @lorenzoporre8155 4 года назад +2

      @@Dave-hn5tl In Italy happened the same..

  • @UltimaJC
    @UltimaJC 4 года назад +661

    On the one hand: That seems incredibly obtuse on South Korea's side and there HAS to be some form of compromise that is better for everyone. On the other hand I love watching Google get stuffed because of all the data harvesting and selling they do on a daily basis. I'm torn lol

    • @kunwoododd2154
      @kunwoododd2154 4 года назад +67

      Why would South Korea want to compromise? They get absolutely nothing out of any compromise.

    • @BrakeCoach
      @BrakeCoach 4 года назад +12

      Better for everyone? More like better for NK and China, lol.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 4 года назад +18

      @@BrakeCoach well you could just send someone to go scout, plus I bet China would just have its own photos. Like it wouldn't be hard to get around the problem if you were planning a war.

    • @Nitlda
      @Nitlda 4 года назад +3

      @@소나마나 not surprising from the big G

    • @johnk7302
      @johnk7302 4 года назад +11

      They should because it's freakin' stupid the satellite photos are available anyone can make a map from them..... it's not a secret and there's no benefit to south korea by denying map companies images and data... they can't control the satellites and there are no secrets...

  • @Marte0107
    @Marte0107 4 года назад +33

    The low quality resolution of some maps in some countries is INFURIATING for architecture students. Sometimes we get precedents to analyse from abroad and I remember how annoying it was using google maps to scope out Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt. Only spot photos from street level and blurry af. Found drawings online thank Christ but if I hadn’t I would have been fucked trying to make sense of it from Google maps 😂

  • @unpseudonyme
    @unpseudonyme 4 года назад +7

    I live in South Korea and I still use Google Maps out of habit. My first year there it was the only available map in English since I had no idea about Bing Map being a thing. Now Kakao and Naver have an English version but my first reflex is still to open google maps. And it's not that bad, I mean yes they don't give you directions , but they tell you where is the place you want to go and where you actually are and you can see your position at any time thanks to your GPS .So really it's no bother at all, I don't need an app to know where I'm supposed to turn right I can perfectly see this by myself on the map.

  • @michaelf6232
    @michaelf6232 4 года назад +52

    OH , THERE'S A STARBUCKS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FORREST. BUT YOU GOTTA GO TO SOUTH KOREA TO FIND IT

  • @orpheus0108
    @orpheus0108 2 года назад +1

    Taxi driver: "Where are you headed?"
    me:" I'm going home, I live on [REDACTED] Avenue"

  • @lstcell
    @lstcell 4 года назад +26

    lived in korea for years and still go on travel there regularly, always used google maps, never had any issue finding anything or getting anywhere. its really not as bad as this video makes you want to believe.

  • @JCrownMusic
    @JCrownMusic 4 года назад +77

    Damn, you brought your A-game with the bits in this video! Entertaining and curiously informative stuff 👍

  • @Kikker861
    @Kikker861 4 года назад +34

    Korean domestic giants were slain before, mostly in the automotive sector. In a way, regulating the foreign competition strongly has fostered growth in national companies that care more for their users at home rather than emerging markets. Makes competition extremely fierce though, as all market share is eaten so fast and so early.

    • @gave2haze
      @gave2haze 2 года назад +5

      ...or removes competition entirely, creating monopolies and a breeding ground for corruption and other crimes

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 года назад +1

      We need similar stuff in America. We need an American Nintendo

  • @samuelpelaez8944
    @samuelpelaez8944 4 года назад +253

    Me: Mom I want CGPGrey!
    Mom: We have CGPGrey at home.
    CGPGrey at home:

    • @keksentdecker
      @keksentdecker 4 года назад +34

      thats kinda mean
      but funny

    • @Panzermeister36
      @Panzermeister36 4 года назад +7

      It's accurate

    • @samhouston1288
      @samhouston1288 4 года назад +26

      I'd be lying if I didn't admit to clicking on this video thinking it was CPGGray and then being confused when I heard someone else's voice.
      I don't know if the art style was intentionally similar so that it would get people like me to click on his videos,, but Tapakapa's content seems to be pretty good nonetheless.

    • @domenicosumma8045
      @domenicosumma8045 4 года назад +4

      Oof that's so real

    • @almostanengineer
      @almostanengineer 4 года назад +2

      I’m not the only one that had that same thought 😅

  • @sh12
    @sh12 9 месяцев назад +2

    South Korea is becoming a "Galapagos" due to the dominance of domestic companies such as Naver and Kakao in the Korean internet market.

  • @HazewinDog
    @HazewinDog Год назад +2

    Public transport and taxi is the main way to travel in South Korea for foreigners though, heck even for many locals. biking isn't really done, and for walking distance/speed you can just look on the map to see where you're going. the only thing that's sourly missing is car directions, but all that combined it is clearly far from useless.
    That being said, it's best to just use their local Naver Maps or Kakao Maps, which do have full functionality.

  • @GhostsGraphics
    @GhostsGraphics 4 года назад +108

    To be fair i wouldn't trust google with my data either.

    • @ZakTheKaiju
      @ZakTheKaiju 4 года назад +57

      yet, here you're, having a google account, watching youtube...

    • @ismailfaalih9559
      @ismailfaalih9559 4 года назад +1

      Hypocrite

    • @GhostsGraphics
      @GhostsGraphics 4 года назад +8

      @@ZakTheKaiju and yet here i am, not giving them any real info. amazing.

    • @GhostsGraphics
      @GhostsGraphics 4 года назад +1

      @@ismailfaalih9559 How so?

    • @john3260
      @john3260 4 года назад +6

      @@GhostsGraphics Search history?

  • @Kirby-vd7hw
    @Kirby-vd7hw 2 года назад +3

    7:20 This is actually hilarious. Very similar to Sam'o'nella academy. Interesting video, and some good comedy leads to great videos. Keep it up!

  • @poundlandvodka
    @poundlandvodka 4 года назад +3

    When I did a study abroad in Korea (pre-2018) I had to learn some basic Korean to use Naver Maps real fast lol

  • @trilingualfudge7307
    @trilingualfudge7307 4 года назад +36

    If you ever find urself running around South Korea....
    Classic intro for a classy RUclipsr

    • @Tapakapa
      @Tapakapa  4 года назад +10

      *wildly flails arms*
      It could happen to all of us!

    • @trilingualfudge7307
      @trilingualfudge7307 4 года назад

      @@Tapakapa sure.... anyone who does that should be called the "windmill warrior" :D

  • @NateROCKS112
    @NateROCKS112 4 года назад +3

    2:25 "Don't worry, I'm taking the best of care of everybody's data" sounded sarcastic coming from a Google persona...

  • @jhco23
    @jhco23 2 года назад +3

    Good news!
    Google finally supports vector style map for south korea.
    Still, no directions for driving and walking.

  • @therichard27
    @therichard27 4 года назад +8

    0:31 when you realize North Korea has more detail than South Korea
    *stonks*

  • @kamilerastene5275
    @kamilerastene5275 4 года назад +4

    Why Bing has accurate map data? My educated guess - they run the South Korean part of their map service from South Korea (which is why that map takes ages to load outside of South Korea)
    Because Microsoft has more experience respecting data privacy than Google...
    You can see they have Azure data centers there if you look at Azure Regions map online.

  • @Vennnaya
    @Vennnaya 4 года назад +98

    "Its about as useful as a map made of paper" You mean like all the other maps people have been using to get around for hundreds of years?

    • @Tapakapa
      @Tapakapa  4 года назад +50

      Yes.

    • @thegreenfather1978
      @thegreenfather1978 4 года назад +7

      Yeah I first was confused about this. I first thought "Oh, he meant BLANK paper (with nothing on it), or something."
      Then I realised that I might be one of the very few that use google maps like a paper map...
      Not gonna lie, ever since I bought my first smartphone at the beggining of the year, traveling in a new city got a bit easier :p.
      *Cracks open a Monster Ultra* *Siiiippps Haaaaa* "Yep, paper maps. Those were the days."

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 4 года назад

      Seeing how many skills I have that aren't known by millennials (changing electrical plugs/tyres/lighting fires/not being scared of animals/being able to eat offal/and many, many more things) I reckon paper map reading may well be lost to the general public in a few years.
      I wish we'd had smartphones!

    • @marios1861
      @marios1861 4 года назад +2

      @@pd4165 why do you feel the need to boast about skills that fall out of the mainstream when their importance fades?

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 4 года назад +1

      @@pd4165 ah yes as i shouldnt be scared of a creature who could easily kill me. right.

  • @CHANNELXVI
    @CHANNELXVI 2 года назад +1

    Update: You can select points now but still only transport directions

  • @wyattschmidt6936
    @wyattschmidt6936 4 года назад +24

    btw, the bases that r being sensored arent Korean ones, they're American installations

  • @Boxygirl96
    @Boxygirl96 4 года назад +9

    9:55 wait they’re the ones that own Webtoons and Line?!?!????

    • @johminjun750
      @johminjun750 4 года назад

      Right

    • @MMike08
      @MMike08 3 года назад

      They also have a partnership with supercell :)

  • @Laittth
    @Laittth 4 года назад +9

    Tapakapa game console when?

  • @luismatta9790
    @luismatta9790 4 года назад +1

    Channels using animation like this one are some of the best channels

  • @hlgb2014
    @hlgb2014 2 года назад +1

    its kind of inconsistent though, for example, at 1:59 you see camp henry is blanked out on the map, but there is actually another military installation (camp george) visible in the screen capture that does have roads and buildings marked. Also for those unaware, these are mostly US military bases.

  • @lucko4576
    @lucko4576 4 года назад +11

    What's the song in the outro? It sounds pretty good

    • @augustopinochet6899
      @augustopinochet6899 4 года назад +1

      (Comment left to get notification about song)

    • @zvava
      @zvava 4 года назад

      darude - sandstorm

    • @gameslayer404
      @gameslayer404 4 года назад +3

      @@zvava not funny my guy

    • @Jimmy-vc9hr
      @Jimmy-vc9hr 4 года назад +2

      Backup Plan by Paul Mitchell Beebe, www.storyblocks.com/audio/stock/backup-plan-sgvsiuanidrk0wy3ii6.html

  • @Taladar2003
    @Taladar2003 4 года назад +17

    If you think (as the comment around 06:30 implies) that Google has the best data you have never used OpenStreetMap. Google might be nicer to find certain things but if you need an accurate map to walk or cycle anywhere it is close to useful compared to OSM.

  • @cnwang01
    @cnwang01 3 года назад +9

    9:14 사랑해~

  • @BBC600
    @BBC600 3 года назад +1

    Sadly neither of those South Korean apps have maps of anywhere else in the world.

  • @kkranezz
    @kkranezz 4 года назад +2

    Fun Fact, Knowledge iN (Naver's Q&A Platform) was the inspiration for Yahoo! Answers.

  • @mxxp1221
    @mxxp1221 4 года назад +3

    I'm Chinese. We don't use Google maps. We use our own maps. The most popular map in China is Gaode map. It has road condition information and speed limit monitoring information, and the road information is also updated very quickly.

  • @oliviaaurellias
    @oliviaaurellias 4 года назад +1

    I didn't know about Naver and Kakao at first when I went to South Korea for the first of my two weeks trip. So for the first few week I used Google Maps and getting lost almost everywhere. But on the bright side, everyone there was so nice they actually help me even before I asked for their help

  • @SiriasisOFFICIAL
    @SiriasisOFFICIAL Год назад +1

    Remember. North and South Korea are still in war.
    If Google makes unnecessarily detailed map of South Korea, North Korea military can use that for their advantage.

  • @prometheus7387
    @prometheus7387 4 года назад +6

    Thanks to the Patreons for bestowing us peasants with good videos.

  • @SadSmash547
    @SadSmash547 4 года назад +6

    Hey, this channel reminds me of CGP Grey.
    *checks upload frequency*
    Yep, just like CGP Grey.

  • @lostonearth7856
    @lostonearth7856 3 года назад +1

    I think Google updated their map on South Korea as it now a lot more interactive then I remember it being few weeks ago and clicking on things actually gets results.

  • @indyn_t
    @indyn_t 3 года назад +1

    you do realize that bing had been collecting 3D mapping data for about 6 years prior and also developed an AI to map the entire world for MSFS2020, so thinking about it, pretty logical that they have more mapping data

  • @7thSnowflake
    @7thSnowflake 4 года назад +3

    Korean companies also prefer to use their own apps and technology to keep the economy flowing inside the country rather than global corporations. Not just Google maps but Google as a search engine itself is subpar here. With most people using the Korean equivalents; Daum or Naver. The same goes with map apps Kakao, Daum, and Naver maps all work excellently providing routes and other great information. It's the same reason apps like Uber fail here. The Korean equivalent is intentionally given less restrictions and is therefore more convenient for the customers. If you're on a trip to Korea don't waste your time getting upset because the global apps don't work. Just get the Korean versions and be on your way

  • @artilleryisbetter
    @artilleryisbetter 2 года назад +13

    I admire SK's efforts of refusing big American tech companies from sweeping in on the competition.

    • @stevenroshni1228
      @stevenroshni1228 2 года назад

      They didn't have any Apple stores before 2018 (it appears they only have two). They only had authorized dealers.

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 3 года назад +2

    That’s so odd. The restrictions hurt regular businesses commercially but doesn’t seem to really help the military bases

  • @arduous222
    @arduous222 4 года назад +1

    Fun fact, though I am not sure if this is still the case, but Facebook used to have some really old map data, from 1950s I assume. For example, Jamsil in Seoul (where 1988 Olympic happened) was actually an island in the northern side of the Han River. IIRC a flood or two changed the flow of the river and after some kind of land reclamation It changed into a huge landmass in southern bank of the river. However, Facebook's map used to show the old "island" version of Jamsil. Also, if you are in outskirt of Seoul (for example, in Gangnam), it used to recognize your location as outside of Seoul, since that part wasn't integrated into Seoul back in 50s.
    Also, on Google thing: I wouldn't say this is the actually true, but interesting speculation. Some in SK think that Google has so much power, that it is actually deliberately not updating map to get a permission to get the data outside of SK. Since Google is already pretty strong in SK, thanks to Android phones, along with Pokemon Go stuff, people actually want to use Google map. On the other hand, Google doesn't have any strong incentive to make SK map up to date. 1. Taxi-like businesses are also strongly regulated in SK that even Uber isn't in SK, 2. There is so much competition going on that they cannot sell map data to 3rd party. There is no way for Google to make money out of map service in SK, even if it serviced. So, they don't have to update it at all, and just waiting (and pressuring the government) for the regulations to be changed.
    BUT: Google finally installed an data center in Seoul this February. This means that they could store and stream the data according to Korean regulations, so the map quality would get improved within a year scale, I expect, unless they don't want to. (Sidenote: MS already have datacenter in Seoul and Busan, which could explain why the Bing map is more high-res).

  • @westcheap
    @westcheap 4 года назад +10

    “I said here you go, mother*bleep*er!”

  • @wolfetteplays8894
    @wolfetteplays8894 2 года назад

    Unrelated, but the situation room on the white house map is also censored. If you try to view it, it just takes you to a playground

  • @systh4903
    @systh4903 2 года назад +1

    2:21 is my favourite part.

  • @stuffed1322
    @stuffed1322 4 года назад +38

    Oh look I'm early, my favourite ice cream flavour is chocolate.

  • @velondra4699
    @velondra4699 4 года назад +1

    So informal! Thank you!

  • @vanishing_girl
    @vanishing_girl 4 года назад

    maps are censored on google but we still have our own map apps, it's not like we're all just wandering around with no idea where anything is

  • @Jokkkkke
    @Jokkkkke 4 года назад +31

    Oh wow so this is like a microcosm of how Korea’s economic nationalism works - cool!

  • @spicymangooo
    @spicymangooo 4 года назад +2

    I would be curious to see one about Japan or any other asian country. Really cool vid!

  • @DerinTheErkan
    @DerinTheErkan Год назад +1

    We've also had satellite imagery resolution lowered in Turkey for the past few years, so I've been looking at satellite maps from..... the Turkish military's own online map? (mapping is still done by the military here). Last year during the forest fire season the government asked Google to censor the Etimesgut airbase where firefighting aircraft were supposed to be stationed when people started asking why those planes weren't flying any sorties. Meanwhile their own map shows them missing their engines, clear as day, no censorship. It's kinda weird in that way. Anecdotally I've also showed the app to a friend working in the defense industry, who looked at something without showing me, immediately said "what the fuck that's not supposed to be visible" and after that completely refused to tell me what it was he saw, so there's definitely something fishy too.

  • @mcbabwe4977
    @mcbabwe4977 4 года назад +19

    Huh, this channel kinda feels like a copy of CGP Grey

  • @nbshftr
    @nbshftr 4 года назад +4

    "taking the best care of everyone's data" LMAO

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder 2 года назад

    lol i've never noticed this because i've always seen satellite maps of korea which show all the streets because they are physically there for the cameras to see

  • @hmm1597
    @hmm1597 4 года назад

    Actually they use Naver map or Kakao map, their own services. If you guys visit there, download Naver map or Kakao map. You can easily use public transport, bike routes and book taxis.

  • @protolanhan9824
    @protolanhan9824 4 года назад +8

    People: "Hey this is just a copy of that CGP Grey Guy!"
    Me: But it's content and style is more similar to "Half as Interesting". Like this guy and grey have noticeably different styles and genres of topics. And even if this guy has similar styles or cover similar genre of topics as other people he does it in an enjoyable way that is easy to understand with nice visuals. Having more quality content inspired by other creators should be celebrated.
    People: "BUT THEY BOTH THE COLOR GRAY!"
    Me: Oh shit your right, my bad.

  • @drakeisacake
    @drakeisacake 4 года назад +9

    It gets lonely in here 7:35
    Hahaha

  • @susuyachan2021
    @susuyachan2021 4 года назад

    The tip for if you need a map for a vacation in South Korea. Download Naver map. Because this will actually get you somewhere

  • @tenbeuTV
    @tenbeuTV 4 года назад +2

    The Republic of Korea is a free democratic country, but it has no choice but to censor it for security because of the close war with North Korea.
    The South Korean government asked Google to identify military facilities.
    However, Google turned down the offer as an excuse for its right to know.
    Also, Google has asked for more accurate guidance from the Korean government, and Korea is a warring country, and cannot take accurate maps abroad. However, if you use Korea's Kakao Map and Naver Map, you can know exactly.
    (Google is not even covering satellite images of U.S. Forces Korea.) [ South Koreans are also aware of this. ]

  • @svendo677
    @svendo677 4 года назад +1

    I was so confused in 2017 when I was in South Korea. Ah it all makes sense now. Thank you very much for this video.

  • @ghost7344
    @ghost7344 4 года назад

    You are the new CGP Grey of RUclips yay i can see 2 videos/month

  • @presidentfist2787
    @presidentfist2787 4 года назад +15

    Imagine North Korean tanks invading with google map navigation 😂

  • @MsHojat
    @MsHojat 4 года назад +4

    2:32 I love that Korean accent that he did there; or was it even an attempt at an accent? He obviously has an accent already, but it seems like there was some extra effort there.

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 года назад +2

    (1:50) Doubtful. The imagery of South Korea on Google Maps are in the style of Google Maps. Therefore those who provide these raster images of the map must have generated them in Google Maps' style quite accurately (but not perfectly), or Google Maps actually has the vector graphics and don't publish it.

  • @edelyncarabuena1445
    @edelyncarabuena1445 4 года назад +2

    So am I the only one who cared about the little note at 1:38? My favorite ice cream flavor is chocolate.

    • @Fytrzaczek21
      @Fytrzaczek21 20 дней назад

      I did too, mine is vanilla or cream

  • @mateinamoto
    @mateinamoto Год назад +4

    0:20 Generally speaking a map 'made of paper', as you put it, is far better than Google maps, but I understand your take, if your audience is mainly comprised of very young children...

  • @SJ-ry6br
    @SJ-ry6br 4 года назад

    If you have to use a map app in Korea, use 'Naver Maps' or 'Kakao Maps'.

  • @gutspraygore
    @gutspraygore 4 года назад

    Oh man, the memories... I used to work at Dragon Hill Lodge. But that was about 30 years ago when the eighth army was still headquartered there. I can still see my old high school in the satellite images. heheh
    I should go back some day. Bring the family.

  • @Mony_0309
    @Mony_0309 4 года назад +3

    네이버지도앱 쓰면 좋지용

    • @reveam
      @reveam 4 года назад +1

      넵!! 더 좋아!

    • @Sabuzark92
      @Sabuzark92 4 года назад +1

      적당히 카카오맵 네이버맵 섞어써줘야됨 ㅋㅋ 아이 귀찮앙..

  • @n0_ne907
    @n0_ne907 2 года назад +1

    This problem is so altered.
    Google map and Bing use the same map data, and Bing has the same ristrictions as Google, butGoogle just refuses to update it's maps, and That's all.
    It's not that google gets bad map data because its a foriegn giant company, Google gets the SAME data but not update because they got upset because they refused to censor military information, like Bing, Naver and Kakao does, and got rejected. And even that can be solved by setting a server in SK like google does in many other places, but They simply just does not...
    There is no say for Google in this because they just didn't want to follow the law which all of the other rivaling companies follow. SK government is not trying to protect domestic giant companies, but trying to keep out that does not follow the reasonable rules.
    Thier slowdown was questioned and was protested for some time, but people just started to use other maps instead.

  • @iamdkash
    @iamdkash 4 года назад +2

    Yeah in korea we just dont use google map. Simple. Use any other korean app works very well w bus subway etc. Kakaomap is the best atm.

  • @seyonkim1627
    @seyonkim1627 Год назад +6

    As a Korean, I recommend travelers to try one of these three maps:
    Naver map(has almost the same function in Korea, as that of google map outside of Korea)
    Kakao map
    Tmap(good for car driving routs)
    I’m not sure if these have english& other foreign languages’ mode, but… I hope they do😂😂
    Good luck and safe travels in Korea!!😊

  • @ofelabiwadaabimanyu8725
    @ofelabiwadaabimanyu8725 4 года назад +1

    Duude, i really love your content! How come i never stumbled on your videos before!.....And...how the hell you only have

  • @elijaha773
    @elijaha773 4 года назад

    Ohhhh, that's why a large chunk of central Washington DC doesn't have 3D renderings of buildings.

  • @Loginpopori
    @Loginpopori 2 года назад +3

    If your reading this you came from the yakuza video

  • @DorianOrage
    @DorianOrage Год назад +1

    I have lived in SK for more than a year and the true reason behind this approach is, as for any other foreign tech company: Discrimination and censorship against foreign companies and subsidies, corrupted political support and extra rights for domestic, state-loyal companies. This pattern is observable across industries. That's all there is to say.

  • @삼양라면-j7g
    @삼양라면-j7g 4 года назад +1

    It's funny that marked place in the thumbnail is where i used to be

  • @Aternuim1
    @Aternuim1 Год назад +3

    Dont go to south korea

    • @maplemiles3381
      @maplemiles3381 Год назад +1

      I go their and Japan but I won't go to North Korea

    • @Aternuim1
      @Aternuim1 Год назад

      @@maplemiles3381 dont care didnt ask

    • @망소이
      @망소이 Год назад +2

      마인드가..ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

    • @Aternuim1
      @Aternuim1 Год назад +1

      @@망소이 which mentality? For an example there are no much of history in korea compared to average Mediterranean country either and hospitality is much better too. also in south korea there are a secret camera issue and if u are foreigner u can get abused randomly

  • @adam_barfi5376
    @adam_barfi5376 2 года назад +1

    cool video
    this took a long time researching didn't it?

    • @Tapakapa
      @Tapakapa  2 года назад +1

      Sure did.

    • @theenchantedbook
      @theenchantedbook 2 года назад +1

      @@Tapakapa Huge respect for responding over a year later.

  • @lanakim3514
    @lanakim3514 4 года назад

    Use Kakao map when in South Korea. It provides pretty accurate info about public transportation and travel time. Even CCTV footage on some roads. Better than Naver map, which is another huge map service made in South Korea.