4EFTE forged engine build from start to finish
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Today we completely strip a working 4efte engine and replace it with some of the best parts that are available for these little engines.
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Top class mate, love the attention to detail. Superb editing. 27 mins of engine building bliss 😎
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So now that the spool rods aren’t available anymore what rods can I use with the Arias pistons?? Or are those new pistons you showed better or the same as the arias?
That was by far one of the most on point quality engine rebuilds I have seen on you tube! about to embark on a 7afe and that was just what I needed. Great work! thanks...
Good luck!
Very professional build. Good work guys. Phil
I hope you like your new engine Phil!
Very need job! Look forward to seeing it on the track…👍
Perfect job, man well done. I'm building a K24A forged build engine.
wow ... how amazing you rebuild it
Your best quality video so far Matty, keep up the great work 👍👍
Really appreciate that man it took so long to make!! haha
Matt One Best assembly wideo in tube !!!! ( in Finland now -22c.. my engine wait ...🥶 ,car is outside shelter )
You certainly go the long way around to understand these things. I bet you've wasted alot of time and money. But your getting there. Congrats. 😊
your best video yet.. brother
Great video mate👍
Great video, quality content 👌 thankyou Matt
Your best video yet!!
I was gonna reach out to you guys for the same reason and to give you’s some content, I’ve got a 4EFE pushing 164kw with a garret top mount with a busted piston ready for a rebuild, looking at making it forged.
Also awesome video guys 👍🏻
Great video, nice to see your attention to detail when it's anyone other than Cam's engine your building 😂
Haha yeah it's nice to do things properly 😂
You’re great! Such passion and experience means 100% trust in your work. I am in Italy so hard for me to send you my engine. Tuning Developments in the UK sells a kit for the rebuild but they won’t do the full work for overseas shipment limits they have. I’ll try to do it myself with my friend who helped me do the swap.
Top Quality Video as Always Matt! Really informative and nice editing! Very clean set up & Build
Cheers mate :)
Nice video Matt! i liked the detail... you should do that for Kam... lol. Cheers mate!
appreciate the details put in this ... blessings from Jamaica
Awesome video Matt. I used the athena head gasket on my engine. Was never too keen on the cometic hg not making full use of the cooling jackets
Great quality work Matt... Keep it up
Awesome video brotha thank you for your knowledge
21:56 that moment ! :D btw very nice build, love to wach :)
Looks familiar, I have my 5efe out of my paseo. Did a light port and polish and port match on the intake and exhaust, just got the head reassembled. Digging into the bottom end next. Curious to know how much performance camshafts would make a difference, any idea?
Cheers from the US!
You should do a dual valve spring test for 1 of those engines
And also a dbw conversion- maybe for evil twin
Awsome video
Can you review a wepr bolt on turbo kit ?
I've seen starlet guys doing the ycp Vitara piston swap have u done any research on it
Hey Matt can u maybe do a in depth video about changing valve springs ?
I've done a few videos already with the cylinder head on a bench... I'll do a video next time I change springs while the head is still on the car.
Job well done.mat
Solid vid man, always top Starlet content! Just a quick question on Comp ratio, what CR do you find best with your forged builds? I’ve got 75mm Wossner pistons and my CR calculations come out as 8.1:1 which seems fairly low..
Cheers dude!
Deadly video 👍🏻
As always another awesome vid bro,starlet fans will be much appreciated with this,as well as other branding fans….#MAZDAHARD
Lovely
What a great job on this build. I love and appreciate your attention to detail on every area. So important in making the engine last a long time. I can see you passion in the video. Wish you lived in Japan so I could bring my motor to you to build. Looking for someone here. Do you happen to know anyone in Japan that you would recommend have rebuild my 4E-FTE?
cheers mate nah i dont know anyone in japan sorry.
Hi Matt!!!! I'm a fan from the philippines... Can you build my 4efte as a christmas gift? ✌🏽😁 250hp will do... Lol
Cheers for the heads-up about the wiesco pistons!! Couldn't have come at a better time! Was literally about to buy a set for my mitsi 😂
Hey man I’m literally watched everything on your channel have when will you upload again. You should upload more often your content is amazing
Thanks man i appreciate it. Ive had some unexpected bills so ive been working flat out for a few months to try get back on top. I look forward to regular uploads again soon!
Great video Matt !
Mate what thickness head gasket is your recommendation and also with the head studs, would you mind supplying the part number.
Great video 👍
How much hp/kw could you get out of a build like this?
He answers that a few times thru the video
Hi mate just wondering what valve spring compressor you use?
Really nice 👌🏼 Quick question, which head stud kit did you use? Looks ARP but was wondering if it was a direct fit kit as so not to drill/ machine block for a bigger stud?! Thanks
Absolutely not a direct fit. Matching/ drilling is required
What did you use to paint the engine block ?
Hey Matt
what torque do you use for the Maxpeeding Con-rods?
My 4efe forged build suffering from bearing fatigure, I have to change bearings every year.. do you have any idea why could that happen? Pushing 300hp, 4efe as a platform, new style oil pump with integrated crank position sensor, 5w50 oil, no oil cooler, modified oil sump so it is baffeled, ross performance harmonic balancer, same pistons, rods and bearings like you use, also I use launch controll and flatshift. Any of these things is known to cause my bearing problems?
What turbo are you using. What boost and what fuel
Watch this video. It will explain your problem ruclips.net/video/BGKPx1ynYuA/видео.html
@@MattBerrymotorsport turbo is billet gt2860 china special, 25psi boost, 98 octane fuel.
@@MattBerrymotorsport my bearing issue looks compleatly diferent. Bearing surface looks like there was happening small explosions.
@@MattBerrymotorsport here is my bearings after few months driving
ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxvquvEmbal8f-TYWcJ8NgJvRWx-cOa4xQ
G'day Matt, Just searching through your videos looking for one about 4EFE vs 4EFTE cranks. Is it safe to build my 4EFE and use my 4EFE crank? Will be aiming pretty high and building the motor to suit a bigger turbo and more boost after I get bored of my CT9 Hybrid. As far as I know everything should fit right and work the same apart from the flywheel bolt pattern. Please let me know if I'm making a big mistake using a 4EFE Crank over a 4EFTE crank before I waste my money haha, cheers mate.
I honestly thing both cranks are the same. I have a 4efte and 4efe crank and both of them are forged with the same numbers. I wrote a comment on another video about this and a guy said in his country the 4efe cranks are cast iron?
Either way I've never broken one before, how much power are you planning to make?
@@MattBerrymotorsport Planning to go balls to the wall with my CT9 Hybrid on e85 and see how much I can squeeze out of it. Current setup is NA+T with a piggyback on full stock internals and some fuel parts. Plan to upgrade the turbo later down the line when I get bored of the ct9 on its max boost so want the motor to be built already and ready for that to just slap a bigger turbo setup on retune and send it.
@@MrPwnagejames sounds awesome mate but seriously, do yourself a favour of throw the ct9 in the bin if you go to a forged engine. You will be wasting your time trying to make power on a tiny turbo not to mention hurt the engine.
You may not agree on this but let's not re invent the wheel here.... Show me one fast Honda that uses a small turbo? You won't find one. Honda's have been in development for far longer than any Toyota engine... I'm just trying to follow in their steps to try and cut some corners to save yourself some time and heartache...
@@MattBerrymotorsport Yeah for sure, Honda's use the big boy turbos and can make shitloads of power. The CT9 Hybrid on my car now with the stock internals is all eBay parts so not long ago I bought a new CT9 setup with the speedvison turbo and wepr manifold and dump to throw on there. I think I will throw that on there after I forge the motor and make whatever power I can safely for the two reasons that I already have this turbo stuff laying around and that Im also not made of money so buying a new bigger setup will take me some time to gather up the parts. Later down the line I want to try the g25-550 turbo so will buy the wepr manifold and dump kit to suit that and then really send it and try make all the power I can on a "safe" tune.
Question. Why a 75 mm head gasket on a bored 74.5 mm cylinder head? Is it for overhang safety? If I bore 74.5 I will need a 75 mm headgasket? Thanks
We just have lots in stock, it works fine. I wouldn’t go the other way though for obvious reasons
hello sir matt im from philippines im your new follower....sir my question about the 4efte engine is how many hp compare to stock 4efe non turbo? i have ae92 and i have plan to upgrade my engine from 12 valve to 4efte can you give me some tips about engine upgrade?
Long shot but the idler pulley bolts to the head right? Well do you know if a washer/spacer sits behind that or does it simply bolt straight to it?
Simply bolts on. The spacer is part of the idler bracket
@@MattBerrymotorsport that's awesome thank you! Having a problem with mine where we've got everything bolted back together but for some reason the timing belt is kinda "hanging" 3/4mm over the edge of the idler & not to sure it we can adjust this or not. Just looking for some help haha!
Thanks for the fast reply man!
Hey matt. As usual great video with tonnes of relevant information. Keep up the great work 👍 👏 💪 👌 🙌 🙏
Quick question for you, what is your honest opinion about maxspeedingrods/scatt rods?
And I've seen real cheap alibaba rods. My buddy assumes these all come from the same factory and wether you buy the name brand or not it makes no difference. What do you think about this?
Yeah i reckon the alibaba rods are the max speeding/scat rods. Only difference I've found is the scat rods have a larger diameter rodbolt. The more important question here is are they even genuine arp bolts? 🤷
Either way good for over 400 hp
The spool rods were a direct fit with no mods required. All the alibaba rods require block notching. The spool rods were also $200 more which is about the cost of a set of genuine arp bolts. Cant buy spool anymore though
@@MattBerrymotorsport I doubt they are genuine arp. But I mean if they hold 400hp who's complaining lol...thanks for your input
@@MattBerrymotorsport what size are the smaller ones and what size are the bigger ones
Hello mate, may i ask you what 4age headstuds you’re using?? 16v?? And keep up the good work!👍🏻
Yeah part number is there. Can find specs online
Sir may I ask why did you use 0.40 headgasket instead of a thicker one since you are forging the engine
We use e85 which is a higher octane fuel that regular pump fuel. Thin head gasket/ high comp is good
Hi Matt, do you have the 4efte valve clearances to hand please ?
hello from barbados I'm looking to do a tercel turbo build with 500+ HP
U could of carry the flywheel to resurface and put a new water pump and new hose
Hello matt, i have a lot of questions since i'm doing my Paseo, there are some of them.
1.Do you have any LSD options for 5efe. I bouhght c161 gearbox from G6 for swap, did you hear about LSD for this gearbox?
2.can you tune stock ECU? (5efe) i want to replace intake and exhaust so i wonder if i can do something with fuel ratio etc.
3. I watched your film about 5efhe and you said that you can put 4e pistons to 5e Rods and increase compression, is 4e gasket required?
4. Last one for now, what's the drifferent with ported/not ported head on naturaly aspirated 5e ?
Im really enjoying your video's, u re making good job, i m waiting for answers :)
Hey I've got a c160 gearbox, comes from the 4a family of engine... I swapped the bell housing to suit 4efe and used an LSD out of a 4a gearbox...
I'm assuming the 161 would be the same process but I've never seen one in person... Also with the extra comp, it's almost not worth the hassle ... It does give you a couple extra HP but it's a lot of mucking around. I've also never seen a stock ecu tuned, I've always gone aftermarket. With your last question I ported a stock cylinder head for my na build and I get a lot of comments saying how low the HP numbers are ... I actually think I've lost hp by porting the head, I recommend just buying a set of good na cams and springs and leave the head un ported but a lift cleanup / polish is fine.
@@MattBerrymotorsport thank you for answers, that's give me some informations, maybe i will find out, what diff is inside this gearbox, Final drive is the same in both cases, so i hope, LSD will fit (if i could find one).
@@kacpergolczak3452 what engine does it come from?
@@MattBerrymotorsport im not 100% sure but i think that 4e fe
@@MattBerrymotorsport this gearbox came from corolla e11 G6, there were two versions 4efe and 4afe, It doesnt really matter, cause you can swap bellhousing, also i wonder, what gear knob did you used when swaping gearbox ?
Is it possible to put a turbo on a non turbo 4efe engine for a starlet glanza
Hey Matt,
How much power did this motor end up making and what turbo was put on it?
Cheers mate love your videos!
Hasnt been tuned yet but hes running a td04 on e85 fuel. Hes aiming for around 200 kw, just wants a reliable track car
@@MattBerrymotorsport I’m looking to replicate everything you’ve done in this video. I’m looking to run a Pulsar GTX2867r to get over 300hp. I’ll be running 98 though. Is that attainable on this setup? Do you think I’ll need cams to be safe? If so which would you recommend?
Appreciate your advice mate!
@@alexanderjordan2241 in our hot climate we couldnt make 300hp on stock cams. I have a gtx2867 on my blue starlet and it makes 383hp at 28psi on e85 fuel...
In a cold climate this would be well over 400hp...
Pump unleaded fuel is dodgey though, id be avoiding it but hey up to you
@@MattBerrymotorsport I appreciate your replies man! I wish I could just let you build my motor but I’m in Sydney. I’ll RE watch all your videos and take notes again!
Thanks Matt :-)
So what’s the cost on getting say a 5EFE done similar?
Hi Matt, here in UK they reckon you need to upgrade to billet main caps if the engine produces over 330nm torque, what's your experience with the stock main caps?
Have Never broken a set
@@MattBerrymotorsportLegend man!
Hi Matt, I placed my order for valve springs and Ti retainers with Performance Springs in QLD. I mentioned to Allen that you recommended them to me. Question if I were to push these springs/retainers to 10,000 rpm do you rekon it can be done without valve bounce?
Hey what exactly are you building to want to rev it to 10,000rpm?
Apart from the oiling system failing and starving the engine of oil, the cylinder heads arent very good for flow either, especially way up in those rpms. That valve spring question would have been a good one for Allen, im not 100% sure
@@MattBerrymotorsport Hi Matt, Its a daily but I want it to rev, I plan on doing a 25% Underdrive pulley on the oil pump and will have to do head work, Ivan tigh high lift 9.3mm cams 276 duration. two maps one low boost on pump petrol and high boost on alcohol etc.
What is torque specs to head and stuff
Hi man, what brand of valve springs are you using?
campdogs.store/products/4e-5e-performance-valve-springs
What pressure plate or pressure cover brand do you recommend? 200hp, exedy, or ACT?
Extreme
Are valve springs really needed?
Im building a 5efte and trying to find out why people buy 4efte head and put it on 5e block
Isn't it ok to use 5e head?
Valve springs make an enormous difference, even in low boost applications. 100% needed!
Second generation 5e head do not have distributor, they have cam and crank angle sensors. They also have coil packs and the rocker cover and cams are a little different.
4efte head are much more available and lots of parts available too
If you have a first generation 5 e head with distributor just use that. It’s almost identical apart from a water hole in the intake manifold that gets blocked anyway
@@MattBerrymotorsport okay thank you so mutch man
What power are the stock headbolts good for I’ve been waiting almost 6 months for arp and still waiting
In our hot climate, stock head bolts are good for around 200 hp, arp bolts start to lift around 280-300 hp. Do the arp STUD conversion and you're good for 450+ hp
Hi Matt what sort of gearbox would you recommend for engine build like this?
C52
Hi matt was wondering what those circle washers are called that go in the engine as ive lost my original ones and cant seem to find a replacement anywhere
Hi they are just head bolt washers you can buy them directly from the Toyota dealership for a few dollars each.
I have an 4efte but it sucks pistons rings have been changed but still no power to drive
I dont understand?
What about the Athena head gasket? I was offered to buy PEC Rods. Are they better than SCAT rods? Thanks
Most starlet rods and pistons are well over engineered for how much power they are actually gonna make lol any will do. Athena are fine, as long as your tune is good. A bad tune can still destroy any engine or head gasket.
@@MattBerrymotorsport wise answer. I appreciate it. I’m trying to figure out how to coil on plug. Which mods I should do to get it work with the stock ECU with a DET3 as piggyback. I also have the Corolla E11 4efe double coil ignition (that replaced the distributor in Europe) so I wonder if I could use it somehow through the Piggyback.
What do you think about this?
Wossner Pistons
SCAT Rods
ACL Bearings
Cometic MLS Headgasket
ARP Headbolts
ARP Mainstuds
Toyota Oil Pump
Uprated Valve Spring Kit
Timing Belt Kit
Water Pump Kit
Shipping To Italy
£1520.00
Sounds cheap
Hey matt
Anychance you can give me product numbers for all the ndc bearings i need (engine main/conrod/thrust) as there a couple variations and dont know which one exactly to get
Kimd regards
I dont have the part numbers, anyway it all depends on your journal sizing... If you only want std size bearings just ask for standard 🙂 if you need other sizes you need to figure that out, unfortunately not one size fits all
Hi hope to find you well bro..my glanva V 4efte is not adling when the map sensor is connected ,could the map sensor be the problem?
Borrow one and see
Can't say I've ever seen a faulty 1
Hi Matt does maxpeeding rods require block notching
yes
the spool rods do not, but they are not available anymore :(
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I personally have had motors build by Matt berry in the past. He is very gifted at what he does and produces solid results. Keep it up mate always enjoy your videos.
Cheers Mr !
Where's the start-up vid?
Engine got sent to a customer in another state. It has stock cams so its going to sound exactly the same anyway 👍
What springs pressure you use.or part no.
campdogs.store/collections
Hey there I wanna rebuild my 4efe engine
Peg them in the bin!!
Do the 4efte valve spring have a certain way they go, does one side have to go down and the other up?
Nope same same
I’m done.music 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Why didn't you install pistons oil squirters?