2024 Alfa Romeo Stelvio -- REFRESHED, but is it BETTER than a BMW X3??

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @CarConfections
    @CarConfections  Год назад +14

    Looking to buy an Alfa Romeo Stelvio or any vehicle? Go to carconfections.com/new-car-quotes to learn about invoice pricing and get the BEST PRICE on vehicles in your local area!

    • @marcusturner5291
      @marcusturner5291 Год назад

      Nice video keep up the good work my brothers

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      @wallacem41atgmail 7 месяцев назад

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  • @billpriddy9326
    @billpriddy9326 Год назад +114

    My wife has had a Stelvio for two years. She’s driven Mercedes, BMW, Audi…and Alfa is seriously one of the very best cars she’s ever owned and it is every bit as fun as any of her Bimmers. We’ve not had one single solitary problem. Flawless.

    • @j0epark1
      @j0epark1 Год назад +3

      How’s the build quality though? I heard it’s almost as cheap as Tesla’s

    • @billpriddy9326
      @billpriddy9326 Год назад +19

      @@j0epark1 I actually have no complaints. Seriously one of the best vehicles ever owned.

    • @marialex7463
      @marialex7463 Год назад +5

      I love mine!

    • @micky7447
      @micky7447 Год назад +1

      ​@@j0epark1Hai sentito male !!

    • @catalinaurica107
      @catalinaurica107 Год назад +5

      I want to be your wife

  • @jimparsons9961
    @jimparsons9961 Год назад +66

    It's funny to me how much people put interior tech over performance. Go and test drive the Stelvio instead of basing your decisions on a video and a touch screen. The new digital cluster gives you great features and sticks to performance features that you would expect! And don't forget that this platform was derived by a Ferrari designer (458 Italia) along with the Alfa Romeo designers. That is what sets the Giulia and Stelvio models apart from the rest.

    • @johnsambo9379
      @johnsambo9379 Год назад +4

      For the money there is no reason not to have a high resolution touchscreen. Sorry but that's just reality.

    • @jimparsons9961
      @jimparsons9961 Год назад +3

      @@johnsambo9379 I get it. The decisions you make are a compromise. I still have my Alfa Romeo because I didn't want to compromise on performance.

    • @carterbasile1720
      @carterbasile1720 Год назад +4

      @@jimparsons9961Why they care so much about the touch screen. It is why I will stop watching them and this is all of their videos.

    • @adriano8809
      @adriano8809 Год назад +2

      I mean what do you expect from people that don’t know any car history nor how an engine works and how to judge a good car from a bad car. The attention to detail on the Alfa is unknown by most of drivers, for example almost nobody knows that the Stelvio suspensions are very sophisticated and they were engineered by the same engineer who realized the Ferrari Enzo suspensions.

    • @Athasin
      @Athasin 10 месяцев назад +2

      Because most people drive cars normally and only care about how comfortable they'll be sitting in it for hours, how will they be able to play their music, will their portable cups fit in the cupholders, how quickly does it get warm/cool, how much trunk space it has, and how much it'll cost to get an oil change/new tires.
      People who car about performance are looking for cars specifically sports cars, not SUVs.

  • @姜萍萍-d9f
    @姜萍萍-d9f 6 месяцев назад +4

    I’ve owned the 2018 stelvio for five years, and I drove across the French Alps and Swiss peaks but not yet been to the Dolomites Stelvio pass, this suv is more sophisticated in its chassis, drivetrain, and overall design than x3 or even macan. It’s ideal composition is without competition for highway and mountain passes where x5 or cayenne is too large. Rare beauty.

  • @rc666
    @rc666 Год назад +16

    The Italian car is back.

  • @Saabdriver93
    @Saabdriver93 Год назад +7

    I own that exact model and color. It’s been a great car and I love it. I cross shopped the Volvo xc60 r Audi sq5 and bmw x3 m packed and the alfa is was the winner. I don’t car for the tech inside the car. I never look at the back up screen I just use my mirrors and I plug my phone in and just use my Spotify and gps works perfectly. With it in dynamic mode you can switch the suspension dampers to soft. I never do. I get in it switch it right to dynamic mode and go. N or A mode I’ll use on the highway if I’m just cruising in the right lane.

  • @deekfrank
    @deekfrank Год назад +13

    I paid cash for two BMW X4’s. 21 X4 30i and 23 X4 M40i. I kept nothing for only a year. Before it depreciated anymore i sold both and have an Alfa again. 24 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Veloche and i absolutely love this freaking car. Couldn’t say this about the BMW’s although i really wanted to. The drive is like comparing apples and oranges. The Stelvio drives like a sports car; its sexy and fun! If you wNt technology get the bimmer but if you want a fun drive get the Alfa. Love this freaking car!!!! ❤

  • @charlesclement383
    @charlesclement383 Год назад +34

    I won't buy any BMW when Alfa Romeos are being built.

  • @Rosso488
    @Rosso488 Год назад +23

    Okay I'm going to say this one thing to the question in hand. Is the Alfa Romeo Stelvio better than the BMW X3? My response is hell yeah it's better. Better looking better driving and it can actually draw attention to itself.

    • @johnsambo9379
      @johnsambo9379 Год назад +1

      It also has the the tech of a 1990's Honda. That's ridiculous for the price point.

    • @Rosso488
      @Rosso488 Год назад

      @@johnsambo9379What the BM doesn’t?

    • @your_royal_highness
      @your_royal_highness Год назад

      I think the BMW’s are too “boxy” and the coupe versions are ugly. I think the Stelvio looks understated excepting the wheels.

    • @Bob-lh4mg
      @Bob-lh4mg Год назад

      I agree it is nicer than the x3

    • @blkfld7850
      @blkfld7850 Год назад

      @@johnsambo9379 Never seen an 1990's honda with an infotainment system, digital dash, or apple car play. But go off. 🤡

  • @nickabbatiello828
    @nickabbatiello828 Год назад +6

    Fabulous video of the Alfa Romeo Stelvio!!! Great job guys!!!

  • @robertzupanic2784
    @robertzupanic2784 Год назад +15

    Alfa for me ❤

  • @snowboardinpassout
    @snowboardinpassout Год назад +5

    Great review. As we say in England, no matter the consequences, you have to have an Alfa once in your life. Now they're back in the U.S. where I live now, this is a real possibility.

  • @adriano8809
    @adriano8809 Год назад +12

    I mean there is no comparison between any German to these Alfas; there are real badass engineers from Ferrari, Maserati and Alfa Romeo behind the last Alfa Romeo models which is a knowledge and richness that any German engineer recognizes and admires, there is nothing to comment against, they are the leader in all their segments as well engine, platform, brakes, suspensions, weight, aerodynamics, etc. are the top of the top that you can get today and these two teenagers obviously judge a vehicle by the digital entertainment when the real entertainment of a car is supposed to be the drive and performance indeed 🤦‍♂️

  • @timothybracken1728
    @timothybracken1728 Год назад +11

    I love the new alfa romeo !

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Год назад +3

    Excellent review as always!😸

  • @markovwms
    @markovwms Год назад +1

    14:30 am i the only one that chuckled when he scooted the seat back 😂

  • @josephpayton9151
    @josephpayton9151 Год назад +9

    This is very underrated. I sometimes forget it exist. And its not a bad car, that i think should be recognized more. Though it is showing its age in terms of technology. Kind of reminds me of 2018. Flashbacks basically. Though i do like what they did with the headlights

  • @mikeolson7557
    @mikeolson7557 Год назад +3

    Great review! This is one stunning driver’s vehicle. The interior is impressive, loving the paddle shifters

  • @darriontunstall3708
    @darriontunstall3708 Год назад +3

    It’s very nice and affordable ! I like the metal speaker grills!

  • @itsconnorjon
    @itsconnorjon Год назад +1

    They could at least update some of the switchgear.. you get the same seat controls in an old Chrysler Town & Country, for example..

  • @kelvinl.3816
    @kelvinl.3816 Год назад

    The only thing I don't like about my Stelvio Quad is that the proximity luck/unlock handles are in the front seats. So you must briefly touch the driver/passenger door to unlock your car before loading kids. It is extremely good value if you buy it used. It has amazing handling for a SUV. If you don't get the Quad which I think you should, the 2.0 can be tuned for more performance than you could on the X3.

  • @tonyvargas368
    @tonyvargas368 8 месяцев назад

    I own a 2019 Stelvio with 43k miles on it. Yes, i dont drive much. I traded in a 2013 BMW 328 at the time. The BMW needed very expensive repairs at 100k miles and turned me away from the brand. The Stelvio has been trouble free until two weeks ago, when the fuel pump quit working and the engine started leaking oil. Thankfully the warranty covered the cost. I still love my Stelvio but I’ll probably switch to Honda next because i dont want to be stranded on the highway again with my dogs in tow.

  • @kungfulender8733
    @kungfulender8733 Год назад +2

    A very nice driving suv.

  • @JoseCastillo-hl3vl
    @JoseCastillo-hl3vl Год назад +1

    Beautiful, but I have a question, I'm thinking of giving myself something new for Christmas, which one would you buy this Alfa Romeo or would you buy the Genesis Gv70 3.5 Prestige?

    • @CarConfections
      @CarConfections  Год назад

      Depends on your priorities but the 3.5L Genesis will have more power and a more modern interior, so that would be my personal choice

    • @JoseCastillo-hl3vl
      @JoseCastillo-hl3vl Год назад

      @@CarConfections The gv70 has me in love with that very modern red interior, the only thing I don't like very much is the size but it's probably because I have a 2021 pilot elite and maybe it's difficult for me to go down to a smaller SUV but I'm in love, although I also have in mind the Mercedes GLS or the Range Rover Sport although the investment is double the Genesis

    • @JoseCastillo-hl3vl
      @JoseCastillo-hl3vl Год назад

      @@CarConfections but I feel that the gv70 is a very good investment and I save half the money

  • @spg5658
    @spg5658 8 месяцев назад

    Stellantis is killing it ! 👍🇺🇲

  • @masterpolir6145
    @masterpolir6145 11 месяцев назад

    Petrol or diesel engine is the best choice? Which is the best engine?best construction?

  • @Theonestrongbusleader
    @Theonestrongbusleader Год назад +9

    Yes, I will buy new 2024 Alfa Romeo Stelvio.

  • @powerrangerkunal
    @powerrangerkunal 6 месяцев назад

    why is the screen so small? every car are coming out with huge over the dash screen and i wish this had one

  • @ximengtang6731
    @ximengtang6731 Год назад +5

    I’m sure better than X3.

  • @Thebuscommunityleader
    @Thebuscommunityleader Год назад +6

    Awesome SUV guys.

  • @RichardArmstrong-fw5xv
    @RichardArmstrong-fw5xv 6 месяцев назад +1

    I Want 25 Stelvio!

  • @steveong4738
    @steveong4738 11 месяцев назад

    Great video, I have followed and owned 2 Alfas in the last 30 years. Alfa has failed to match BMWs and Mercedes during the 30-year period for various reasons. Buyers were not buying them. However with their latest model range, I think Alfa will beat both BMW and Mercedes in the non M and AMG sector. Every car guy must get an Alfa Romeo?!

  • @micky7447
    @micky7447 Год назад +7

    If you love drive...you buy Alfa !!!

  • @user-vk9ff9gr4x
    @user-vk9ff9gr4x 11 месяцев назад +3

    Second stelvio, looking at 3rd. Have to say, all the interior stuff really comes together in the graycle. But at a price, pushing it into quad territory. And that's why I'm looking at the quad. It really has been no issue vehicle

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 Год назад

    How do you use those roof rails? They don't have a pass through.

    • @blkfld7850
      @blkfld7850 Год назад

      They work just like the roof rails on a Mercedes GLC or an X3. If only there was some sort of book that you could keep in the car that told you how to use all the features of the car....

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 Год назад +1

      @@blkfld7850 If a book is required to explain how to use their roof rails, then they designed it wrong.

  • @terrymorris8617
    @terrymorris8617 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the great review guys !

  • @shekasingh
    @shekasingh Год назад

    Hello guys, Just wanted to confirm if they have active sound design in 2024 model. Is it the actual engine sound inside the car or its fake?

    • @WalterPantaloni
      @WalterPantaloni Год назад +1

      The engine sound is real, it’s not a hybrid or electric car

  • @stephensmith7009
    @stephensmith7009 7 месяцев назад

    18 months of Guilia ownership with 12 months in dealership waiting for parts. So far £8000 parts into it. Multiple failures of same nature.
    I love it. But it's getting binned once out of warranty.
    Peugeot build a much better car.
    I've driven everything else including Ferrari/Maserati.
    Always wanted an Alfa.
    Job done!

  • @ianlee487
    @ianlee487 Год назад +6

    Anything is better than a bmw x3 there garbage. The stelvio is far superior than German plastic box

    • @Bob-lh4mg
      @Bob-lh4mg Год назад

      Your absolutely right

  • @kashyyomfg
    @kashyyomfg 8 месяцев назад

    I want one so bad.

  • @garrymercer757
    @garrymercer757 Год назад +1

    Are you kidding? Without the bmw x3 half the mechanics would be unemployed

  • @josephpayton9151
    @josephpayton9151 Год назад

    What kind of lamborgini was it? Im pretty intrigued, because thats a rarity. 2 Italians side by side. Ykw what that means. Pizza and a drag race!

  • @Nestle245
    @Nestle245 Год назад +6

    Wow they barely changed anything about the interior since it first came out.

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад +4

      What should they change?

    • @Nestle245
      @Nestle245 Год назад

      ​@@hellkitty1014Well the screen doesn't take up the whole real estate for the size of it. That's been an issue since it came out. They could've made it bigger.

    • @alexyurkovskyi8686
      @alexyurkovskyi8686 Год назад +2

      Me, being an Alfisti, I was supprised and frustrated they didnt change the infotainment. But turns out there was a reason for that - replacing the whole infotainment with a newer uconnect would require to go over the all certifications and safety tests again, separately for EU and NA. And that is rather costly process (we can safely assume it would have been reflected in the price)

    • @DonViToCRLNE
      @DonViToCRLNE Год назад +2

      It had a update already in 2020, they changed the interior.

    • @ianlee487
      @ianlee487 Год назад

      Why change perfection

  • @nkjrm348
    @nkjrm348 6 месяцев назад

    If high tech and screens are important then buy German. If driving experience is paramount plus a Ferrari engine up front then buy Alfa. Remember, Enzo Ferrari said he sells engines. The rest of the car is free. That applies here also

  • @j0epark1
    @j0epark1 Год назад +2

    I hate those shifters so much. Everything else looks simple and nice though.

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition Год назад +2

      Have you ever tried the paddle shifters? No, I didn't think so.

  • @4TheLoveOfGadgets
    @4TheLoveOfGadgets Год назад

    theres a 2024 model of this exact one for sale for 41k online rn with 3k miles...value on these drop like a rock...geez

  • @fog92
    @fog92 Год назад

    Not alfas first matte finish, that would be the nring matte metallic gray

  • @donnylemons8715
    @donnylemons8715 Год назад +1

    That black trim around the bottom was such a terrible descion, ruined the alfa as it no longer has a sporty look.

  • @KuyaArbee
    @KuyaArbee Год назад +1

    should have shown is the LAMBO! the exterior looks super nice! too bad no 360 camera :/

    • @m-jay356
      @m-jay356 Год назад

      The front is ugly imo

  • @woah5599
    @woah5599 Год назад

    it looks the same though how is it refreshed

  • @da1nonly_Q
    @da1nonly_Q Год назад +1

    Its nice but still dated and behind in tech! Especially compared to Bmw!

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition Год назад +2

      But the BMW doesn't drive as nicely as this SUV.

    • @TheBigdaddy9448
      @TheBigdaddy9448 Год назад +1

      I like the fact that it doesn't have a laptop for a dashboard. This is a driver's car, not a video game. The interior is somewhat retro looking with a little bit of tech.. If you need a laptop, stay home, and let the real drivers have the road.

  • @philpernice4722
    @philpernice4722 Год назад +1

    No hp upgrade since 2016 alpha engineers cant get 10 more hp somewhere?

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад +3

      It has 280hp/306lbft of torque standard. The rest of the class has yet to catch up to that level of base engine power.

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 Год назад

      thats because its best in class in all categories even 7 years later.... it blows away AUDI, BMW and MERCEDEs... o and all the JAP SUVs

  • @princetheelegendmusic
    @princetheelegendmusic Год назад +1

    You make such a brilliant car and put in such a terrible infotainment system, just whyyy??!!😤

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition Год назад +5

      It's a driver's car. Who cares? I'll take great steering and suspension over infotainment any time, every time.

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 Год назад +4

      because real drivers dont play with a SCREEN

    • @jorgeg162
      @jorgeg162 Год назад +4

      It's not For kids..

    • @princetheelegendmusic
      @princetheelegendmusic Год назад +2

      You’re right adults respect quality over toys

  • @anthonyferrara2222
    @anthonyferrara2222 Год назад +1

    That grille just doesn’t do it for me. BMW had a signature grille and look what they did. Guess nothing is set in concrete.

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 Год назад +6

      you need glasses... the Scudetto grill is the best front end in the industry...I will buy you a pair

    • @jorgeg162
      @jorgeg162 Год назад +1

      E il biscione

  • @davidtate7699
    @davidtate7699 Год назад

    imagine trying to put a plate on the front of that vehicle .............ouch

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад

      Thats the only thing I don't like about these types of designs(also Audi, Genesis). The plate throws off the entire front end styling of the car.

    • @davidtate7699
      @davidtate7699 Год назад

      Very true and this vehicles looks especially troublesome lol

    • @ianlee487
      @ianlee487 Год назад

      Trust the Americans that's why the plate goes on the side

  • @nickgee7291
    @nickgee7291 Год назад

    it looks x5 sized !

  • @mikeschmit007
    @mikeschmit007 Год назад

    It's the same platform as the maserati grecale, therefore built in the same factory.

    • @herikusdianto5974
      @herikusdianto5974 Год назад

      No...Maserati in Modena
      Alfa in Turin

    • @cal7348
      @cal7348 Год назад +1

      No only the mc20 in Modena
      Quattroporte, levante, grancabrio in torino
      Giulia stelvio grecale Cassino lazio region

    • @blkfld7850
      @blkfld7850 Год назад

      Not built in the same factory. Google is your friend

  • @anthonykiedis1765
    @anthonykiedis1765 Год назад +9

    These are going to be nice $15,000 vehicles in a few years after the warranty runs out 😅

    • @tommyjones2879
      @tommyjones2879 Год назад +1

      You can buy an extended warranty directly from Mopar without having to purchase extended warranty from dealership.

    • @razorraysolarsavings70
      @razorraysolarsavings70 Год назад

      Do not buy an extended warranty from a third party, Alfa doesn’t honor those.

    • @user-vk9ff9gr4x
      @user-vk9ff9gr4x 11 месяцев назад

      Find me a 2020 like that please

    • @anthonykiedis1765
      @anthonykiedis1765 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-vk9ff9gr4x one in York, PA for 22k. It's a 2020 with 30k on it. They also have a 2019 with 38k miles for $18k

    • @anthonykiedis1765
      @anthonykiedis1765 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-vk9ff9gr4x Google shows multiple low mileage 2020 models in my area for 20-22k. Many 2018s and 2019s in the teens.

  • @tanekiagrant8479
    @tanekiagrant8479 Год назад +1

    I don't know about the Alfa Romeo stelvio it looks funny especially the grill I don't know why I might take a BMW I don't know about this car or Benz

  • @khelmikjavier2313
    @khelmikjavier2313 8 месяцев назад

    Love the brand, but their vehicle lineup are garbage. Except for the Giulia Quadrifoglio.

  • @bardhprendi2160
    @bardhprendi2160 Год назад

    Now is peugeot so,i'd never buy one.

  • @dd4886
    @dd4886 Год назад +1

    Crash test ratings, have they improved???

    • @stephenperron6539
      @stephenperron6539 Год назад +4

      Last time I checked it was still a 5 star rating. You must be confused

    • @mikeschmit007
      @mikeschmit007 Год назад

      How could they even improve? They're among the best.

    • @Saabdriver93
      @Saabdriver93 Год назад

      My 23 alfa Romeo stelvio took on a tractor trailer at 60mph then bounced off the truck and hit a bridge and I walked away and so did my passengers. They are very safe cars.

  • @btk6357
    @btk6357 Год назад +4

    the infotainment looks tiny and incredibly laggy

    • @jonasreich3607
      @jonasreich3607 Год назад

      As an alfa owner, I can confirm this

    • @btk6357
      @btk6357 Год назад +1

      well, the screen looks very laggy at 10:05.
      It’s 2024, we should be allowed to ask for a good infotainment as well

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 Год назад

      Lol it’s jeep infotainment system they just too cheap to port over new variant of uconnect which even jeeps now have.

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад +4

      ​@@Jeez001This is Alfa-specific infotainment, produced by MagnetiMarelli. Completely unrelated to UC5.

    • @JayDee-b5u
      @JayDee-b5u Год назад

      @@hellkitty1014 To make it even worse FCA is widely known to have some of the fastest HMI around. How wrong can one person be?

  • @razorraysolarsavings70
    @razorraysolarsavings70 Год назад +1

    It’s not refreshed enough.

  • @george-ng5gj
    @george-ng5gj Год назад +1

    Looks like a Mazda

  • @AlfieroMinini
    @AlfieroMinini Год назад

    Alfa Stelvio. .Great car❤❤❤

  • @thebigone6969
    @thebigone6969 Год назад

    You gotta be kidding me boo boo. Ain’t no way this car is as good as any Bimmer! I guess if a hot chocolate man wants to buy this for me he can but he’d have a better chance getting in my cakes if he got me a Bimmer or Benz!!!!!!

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад +4

      Have you seen the hot garbage that BMW is putting out??

    • @thebigone6969
      @thebigone6969 Год назад +1

      @@hellkitty1014you obvi just jealous you can’t afford a Bimmer boo boo! Boy bye!!!

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 Год назад +1

      @@thebigone6969 they lease for $400 per month. Not that big of a deal.

    • @thebigone6969
      @thebigone6969 Год назад

      @@hellkitty1014 Then my man should be able to get me one boo! You gotta pay to play it you want a taste of this donk! Sorry not sorry boo boo!!!

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 Год назад +1

      The Stellvio and the GIULIA blow any BIMMER and MERCEDES away... 7 years later the Germans still cannot figure out how to beat both vehicles on the NURBURGRING! its pretty funny watching Germans struggle with engineering and balance not to mention how to design a proper looking vehicle.. Have a great day BIGONE

  • @SenatorTacos
    @SenatorTacos Год назад

    oh look, a Dodge Hornet.

  • @davealmer3803
    @davealmer3803 Год назад

    Stelvio is Italian for the word Hornet and this is an overpriced DODGE if you peel it back far enough but love the reviews.

    • @joevelte4252
      @joevelte4252 Год назад +6

      completely wrong. The engine was Ferrari based. The designer was from Ferrari

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition Год назад +3

      This vehicle has nothing to do with Dodge. Not one thing is shared with any Dodge product.

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 Год назад

      you gotta be American.. Alfas are not for Americans. go buy a DODGE

    • @edombre4637
      @edombre4637 Год назад +7

      you're confusing the Stelvio with the Tonale - Dodge took the Tonale (they are both part of the Stellantis group), took it a bit downscale, and presented the Hornet.

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition Год назад +4

      @@edombre4637 This video is about the Stelvio, not the Tonale, and Dodge had nothing to do with the Giulia/Stelvio products (thank goodness). And Stelvio is, of course, a mountain pass in Italy, not Italian for Hornet.