the 2.0 do have issues with burning oil and with the lack of dipstick and most owners are not even checking oil levels it can cause the engines to grenade. I am obsessive with upkeep so for me not an issue but consider the older lady who would drive it all year burning oil and never checking to one day BOOM but overall the cars are reliable
@@autofanaticcars Yeah, there are thing to take into consideration. I just love cars and taking care of them is like to take care of yourself: brush the teeth, dress up, put the shoes on....
@@autofanaticcarsquestion about the dipstick. Both my Audis (A5, A6) didn’t come with a dipstick but there was a plug to where the dipstick is supposed to live. It has a digital oil level display but I was able to purchase an aftermarket dipstick. I’m gonna assume that the Alfa doesn’t even have a tube going to the plan. Correct?
My daughter bought a 21 Stelvio. I told her to drive one before she bought an X3 or a Q5. She loves it. My issue with it is that you are strongly discouraged from doing your own maintenance. I have changed the oil and you have to have special equipment to work around the security to reset the maintenance indicator. I changed the cabin filter too, that is a PIA. It’s a really nice vehicle for the money.
Just wanted to say love you're channel. Been watching for a couple months and helped me do my research on these cars with the gorgio platform. I initially was going to get a gulia ti sport. But ended up going with a stelvio because I needed the cargo space for my DJing side business. I just bought a 2020 Stelvio Ti sport this past Saturday in Montecarlo blue very well specced. Going to get an extended warranty on it and PPF the front and keep it for a while, haven't had it for long but I already love it. Mainly for the handling. Thanks for all the videos, and keep doing your thing, not many channels are as entertaining and informative from a real car enthusiasts view like yours.
nice enjoy it and consider some of the recommendations i suggest #1 replace the battery with an Interstate MTX49 H8 and grab a OBD scanner just in case if you ever need it
The alfa dealer i got it from already replaced the battery for me, and did the 40k mile service even though the car has 20k miles on it. All done before I bought it. I might run it for a bit to see how long it will last and keep on eye on the auto start stop feature. And I will definitely get that scanner, as well as those floor mats, it seems a lot easier to clean than weather techs, and they look much nicer and seem to fit the interior better style wise compared to weather tech's. @@autofanaticcars
Also i'm probably going to do the oil changes my self every 5k miles because I've heard that helps a lot with any possibility of oil burning issues and obviously keep an eye on oil level because I am also a fanatic when it comes to my cars. That is why my previous car, a very modded 2016 Focus ST drove me nuts, all the squeeks and rattle and every two weeks something would go wrong.@@autofanaticcars
when you do the oil fill slowly and check the silly level on the dash screen these cars are so easy to overfill if you try to get the dash gauge to read 100% it will throw a fault overfilled but let the level remain at 3/4 is what I have learned with these over the years
Good to know, i noticed thats where the dealer filled it to. i remember you talking about that in the 4 year review of your last one I think. And thanks for the advice, also def going to use amzoil cause that's what I used on my last car and it is the best stuff out there.@@autofanaticcars
In no small part due to your coverage of Alfa Romeo I decided to buy a used 2020 Stelvio (16k Ti Lusso) about 9 months ago over X3. Here is some general observations and thoughts for potential buyers after 7k miles. Not a single mechanical issue or check engine light, also original battery is still going strong. No rattles or creeks despite being driven in the North East (multiple frost/thaw cycles). However some rubber seals and weather-stripping have questionable durability. I replaced inner door seal and B pillar passenger door strip needs to be replaced in the future as driver side has excessive road noise. Find good euro independent mechanic to do service maintenance. I pay about $120 vs $250 (dealer) for an oil change and $200 vs $350 break flush. I have a second of wheels with Blizzaks tires and this car is beast in the snow (A mode especially). I live in Buffalo so when my wife gets up early in the morning to work at a hospital and streets still unplowed that means I can stay in bed instead of shoveling driveway :). I love using info system rotary dial (with Android Auto) and barely ever use touch the screen. I believe its much safer as you always keep you eyes on the road. Column mounted paddles are awesome, my wife first said "What a hell is this?" :). Now she is used to them. Back up camera is terrible, not much of an issue, unless you park in tight spaces on city streets. Should have been upgraded in a mid cycle refresh. White exterior (Trofeo White) is a PITA to maintain especially with body colored fenders, but there is a price to pay for beauty. So go darker or the red color looks great. Overall I think Italians engineers did a fantastic job designed Giorgio Platform, but FCA corporate did an appalling job in marketing and support. Back in 2018 when I bought my previous small/compact SUV I wasnt even aware of Stelvio/Guilia. Saw my first one a few years back and it instantly caught my eye. Now I see a couple of them everyday. Whats the point of having one the best products on the market if no one knows about it? Anyways, thanks for taking the time.
Absolutely the best video on RUclips. I’ve been looking at these for a while and after watching your video I’m convinced that I will be trading in my 2017 Audi A3 and buy one of these.
2018 Stelvio Ti Sport owner - I too have that cold start noise you mentioned but as you said I haven’t noticed any drivability complications. However I unfortunately woke up the other day to the “infamous” dead vehicle and believe it’s the battery, but I also can’t complain because I’m certain it’s the original battery from 2018. I ordered the Interstate AGM MTX-49/H8 battery that most people on the forums recommend so fingers crossed that everything will be just fine after that! No other problems.
In my Stelvio 2021 I had an issue with HVAC coolant seal, which had to be replaced and refilled to make HVAC work properly. Also the factory installed battery died exactly 2 years after I've bought the car. It was spectacular and scary to see how all of the electronics freaks out when the voltage suddenly dropped and you are bombarded by 10 various errors. Finally some metallic bracket has fallen apart inside of the passenger mirror, so now I hear a disgusting rattle when I close the door while standing outside. And replacing the whole mirror just doesn't make sense sinse it's fully functional.
I think i have the same floor mat brand that you have on my CX5, amazing car. Stelvio and CX5 are both some of the greatest handling SUV's ever.. the mazda is great for the value and money.. but if I could I would def get the Stelvio. Amazing car!!!
Only issue I have on my 2022 is the Alf Connect Box needs Service message. Also have the same message on our Pacifica. I just hit ok as it has not caused any issue with drivability or functions. No noise on my 2022 in the engine area you referenced.
Hey autofanatic. You mention you also own an AMG and BMW M car, plus a Giulia Quadrifoglio. (amazing collection btw). Anyway, I’d be very interested in seeing a video from you comparing those three cars - idk, maybe they’re not direct competitors with each other (maybe they are!), but what do you see the as the pros and cons of those vehicles/brands compared to each other. That would make a great video. Thanks for your content.
I might do a video on all the cars one day but i do discuss all my cars in most of my reviews and driving videos if you check those out. Check the channel youll see most of the fleet
Hey there. Great review! Whats your opinion on the 2.2 Turbo diesel with 160 horse power motor? Is it a good motor? I have ny eyes on a stelvio with that😊
@autofanaticcars Did you ever do the Veloce badge replacement video? I'm sure its no different from any other badge replacement but I'd feel a whole lot more confident watching you do it first. You are meticulous lol
Do you have an alfa dealer where you are at if not if you get cides fo you just use the code reader i want one but dint have an alfa dealer here anymore
Yes indeed like give the 2.0 345-400hp 2.9 550 and I guess a maserati v8 with 630-650hp! Because your right and every engine class I mentioned In all performance bands even honda and acura are making or passed in hp numbers I mentioned I own a alfa romeo stelvio ti sport playing I thought this was a plan acura but the new acura integra type s and I was pissed when he said 320 hp factory out of the same 2.0 engine!
I felt the same way. I was questioning if i was imagining this. Maybe I should consider that the my 2023 is a Veloce, so is most likely slightly heavier than my 2018 base. Same motor, different weight.
Love my 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport (was top trim after Quad that year) and like yours it's Trofeo White with Red but in the earlier Stelvios (before they cheaped out in 2022) the Red seats came with tasty RED ACCENTS on the door cards, lower dash, center console, contrast red stitching on the steering wheel, gear shift lever and door cards and dash !! This one looks like they plucked the red seats out of a salvaged car and plopped them in . Sorry dog, but the older interiors were WAY NICER !!
Does the autel scanner that you recommend actually clear codes without going deep into your dashboard and installing the device that bypasses the sgw tech? My indie mechanic coded my stelvio and couldnt clear the codes after hours of attempts at it!
The only value I see for this car is it’s one of the best used cars to buy. Because it depreciates so much, and nothing is practically new from 2020 - present. So it’s a super great deal to buy used models. I don’t think it really competes with 50-60k market, but it is really good within 20-30k market
I did. It was related to the battery. You need to drive often when it's cold to keep the battery charged. Otherwise the engine does sound scary when it warms up.
Maybe that gas station had too much ethanol in their tanks. It’s cheaper for them and we get scammed. Your cars r not flex-fuel. They r all high performance. Too much ethanol burns too hot and burns the valves. That’s why engines knock and trip the computer
Yeah it was crazy how it affected three of my cars that weekend. Weird thing my M3 cel was able to be erased but it eventually came back the next day and two BMW dealers couldn’t fix it after this incident. One dealer diagnosed a high pressure fuel rail sensor being faulty but the part was indefinitely backorder but i sold car shortly after
Surprised your passenger door panel leather is that unsightly. Don't you use a good leather conditioner on all of the surfaces?? Also the gloves make no sense to me. If you are worried about contamination/germs from the gas pumps just use a hand sanitizer after you pump gas. The gloves probably aren't cleaned after each use so those germs you're worried about are on the gloves now and you're touching them with your bare hands everytime you put them on and take them off when you pump gas.
First off the gloves are disposable and new ones used every time and hand sanitizer does not kill all pathogens and is not good to continually use. The leather got that way from leaving window cracked by accident in rain no conditioner will fix that
Way back their service center was closed doing major construction no idea if they ever opened a service facility again but we had to use the Jeep dealer to do the recall on the ave in new Rochelle last year regarding i still wouldn’t trust them doing certain things
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I have Stelvio 2018 a year. I still don't understand why people in general complain About Alfa's reliability. I have zero issue during my ownership 😍🥰
the 2.0 do have issues with burning oil and with the lack of dipstick and most owners are not even checking oil levels it can cause the engines to grenade. I am obsessive with upkeep so for me not an issue but consider the older lady who would drive it all year burning oil and never checking to one day BOOM but overall the cars are reliable
@@autofanaticcars Yeah, there are thing to take into consideration. I just love cars and taking care of them is like to take care of yourself: brush the teeth, dress up, put the shoes on....
@@autofanaticcarsquestion about the dipstick. Both my Audis (A5, A6) didn’t come with a dipstick but there was a plug to where the dipstick is supposed to live. It has a digital oil level display but I was able to purchase an aftermarket dipstick. I’m gonna assume that the Alfa doesn’t even have a tube going to the plan. Correct?
wish it did i would buy a dipstick immediately the dash gauge is so annoying when checking the level as it takes so long to recalibrate
@@autofanaticcars sheesh Yea that sucks. I’m still going to get one, but that’s gonna be annoying lol.
My daughter bought a 21 Stelvio. I told her to drive one before she bought an X3 or a Q5. She loves it. My issue with it is that you are strongly discouraged from doing your own maintenance. I have changed the oil and you have to have special equipment to work around the security to reset the maintenance indicator. I changed the cabin filter too, that is a PIA. It’s a really nice vehicle for the money.
Just wanted to say love you're channel. Been watching for a couple months and helped me do my research on these cars with the gorgio platform. I initially was going to get a gulia ti sport. But ended up going with a stelvio because I needed the cargo space for my DJing side business. I just bought a 2020 Stelvio Ti sport this past Saturday in Montecarlo blue very well specced. Going to get an extended warranty on it and PPF the front and keep it for a while, haven't had it for long but I already love it. Mainly for the handling. Thanks for all the videos, and keep doing your thing, not many channels are as entertaining and informative from a real car enthusiasts view like yours.
nice enjoy it and consider some of the recommendations i suggest #1 replace the battery with an Interstate MTX49 H8 and grab a OBD scanner just in case if you ever need it
The alfa dealer i got it from already replaced the battery for me, and did the 40k mile service even though the car has 20k miles on it. All done before I bought it. I might run it for a bit to see how long it will last and keep on eye on the auto start stop feature. And I will definitely get that scanner, as well as those floor mats, it seems a lot easier to clean than weather techs, and they look much nicer and seem to fit the interior better style wise compared to weather tech's. @@autofanaticcars
Also i'm probably going to do the oil changes my self every 5k miles because I've heard that helps a lot with any possibility of oil burning issues and obviously keep an eye on oil level because I am also a fanatic when it comes to my cars. That is why my previous car, a very modded 2016 Focus ST drove me nuts, all the squeeks and rattle and every two weeks something would go wrong.@@autofanaticcars
when you do the oil fill slowly and check the silly level on the dash screen these cars are so easy to overfill if you try to get the dash gauge to read 100% it will throw a fault overfilled but let the level remain at 3/4 is what I have learned with these over the years
Good to know, i noticed thats where the dealer filled it to. i remember you talking about that in the 4 year review of your last one I think. And thanks for the advice, also def going to use amzoil cause that's what I used on my last car and it is the best stuff out there.@@autofanaticcars
In no small part due to your coverage of Alfa Romeo I decided to buy a used 2020 Stelvio (16k Ti Lusso) about 9 months ago over X3. Here is some general observations and thoughts for potential buyers after 7k miles. Not a single mechanical issue or check engine light, also original battery is still going strong. No rattles or creeks despite being driven in the North East (multiple frost/thaw cycles). However some rubber seals and weather-stripping have questionable durability. I replaced inner door seal and B pillar passenger door strip needs to be replaced in the future as driver side has excessive road noise. Find good euro independent mechanic to do service maintenance. I pay about $120 vs $250 (dealer) for an oil change and $200 vs $350 break flush. I have a second of wheels with Blizzaks tires and this car is beast in the snow (A mode especially). I live in Buffalo so when my wife gets up early in the morning to work at a hospital and streets still unplowed that means I can stay in bed instead of shoveling driveway :). I love using info system rotary dial (with Android Auto) and barely ever use touch the screen. I believe its much safer as you always keep you eyes on the road. Column mounted paddles are awesome, my wife first said "What a hell is this?" :). Now she is used to them. Back up camera is terrible, not much of an issue, unless you park in tight spaces on city streets. Should have been upgraded in a mid cycle refresh. White exterior (Trofeo White) is a PITA to maintain especially with body colored fenders, but there is a price to pay for beauty. So go darker or the red color looks great.
Overall I think Italians engineers did a fantastic job designed Giorgio Platform, but FCA corporate did an appalling job in marketing and support. Back in 2018 when I bought my previous small/compact SUV I wasnt even aware of Stelvio/Guilia. Saw my first one a few years back and it instantly caught my eye. Now I see a couple of them everyday. Whats the point of having one the best products on the market if no one knows about it? Anyways, thanks for taking the time.
Nice story, thanks. Concerning marketing, I see European companies making their "nut" in Europe, so here the marketing is not as important.
Absolutely the best video on RUclips. I’ve been looking at these for a while and after watching your video I’m convinced that I will be trading in my 2017 Audi A3 and buy one of these.
Glad to hear it!
2018 Stelvio Ti Sport owner - I too have that cold start noise you mentioned but as you said I haven’t noticed any drivability complications. However I unfortunately woke up the other day to the “infamous” dead vehicle and believe it’s the battery, but I also can’t complain because I’m certain it’s the original battery from 2018. I ordered the Interstate AGM MTX-49/H8 battery that most people on the forums recommend so fingers crossed that everything will be just fine after that! No other problems.
Definitely bad battery my 23 QV dies a few weeks swapped to the Interstate all good
Did you end up putting the centerline exhaust on the newer Stelvio? Do you still recommend that as an option?
Same spec 2023 with vulcano black here with barely 3.5k miles.
In my Stelvio 2021 I had an issue with HVAC coolant seal, which had to be replaced and refilled to make HVAC work properly. Also the factory installed battery died exactly 2 years after I've bought the car. It was spectacular and scary to see how all of the electronics freaks out when the voltage suddenly dropped and you are bombarded by 10 various errors. Finally some metallic bracket has fallen apart inside of the passenger mirror, so now I hear a disgusting rattle when I close the door while standing outside. And replacing the whole mirror just doesn't make sense sinse it's fully functional.
The Autel has a battery test function? I have a 2022 QV and it’s been a great car as well so far.
Great review, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
How do you rest the maintenance massage (miles and days)
I think i have the same floor mat brand that you have on my CX5, amazing car. Stelvio and CX5 are both some of the greatest handling SUV's ever.. the mazda is great for the value and money.. but if I could I would def get the Stelvio. Amazing car!!!
Only issue I have on my 2022 is the Alf Connect Box needs Service message. Also have the same message on our Pacifica. I just hit ok as it has not caused any issue with drivability or functions. No noise on my 2022 in the engine area you referenced.
Hey autofanatic. You mention you also own an AMG and BMW M car, plus a Giulia Quadrifoglio. (amazing collection btw). Anyway, I’d be very interested in seeing a video from you comparing those three cars - idk, maybe they’re not direct competitors with each other (maybe they are!), but what do you see the as the pros and cons of those vehicles/brands compared to each other. That would make a great video. Thanks for your content.
I might do a video on all the cars one day but i do discuss all my cars in most of my reviews and driving videos if you check those out. Check the channel youll see most of the fleet
I think this is a good idea to compare the subtle differences in general driving the AMG vs M vs Quad
May want to try leatheriq on the passenger side leather trim
I have that on hand i use it mostly on vintage leather might try it on this soon
how much oil consumption (burn) is considered acceptable?
Im looking at 2018 Stelvio Ti sport with 40k miles. My question is with the car being 6yrs old...would all the recall been done????
Any more recent content on the Stelvio?
Yes we have a 2025 on order hope to get it during the holiday season we are super excited on the spec as this will be the final run of the Stelvio.
Hey there. Great review! Whats your opinion on the 2.2 Turbo diesel with 160 horse power motor? Is it a good motor? I have ny eyes on a stelvio with that😊
We don’t get that version in the USA
Who do you recommend for PPF in Westchester?
Send me an email
I consistently got oil overfill warning (engine runs fine, no check engine light). Is it just because the sensor is too sensitive?
Drain some oil out very carefully its such a pita!
how does it handle in the snow?
Amazing i did a snow drive video of my 2019 Stelvio on this channel if you search
@autofanaticcars Did you ever do the Veloce badge replacement video? I'm sure its no different from any other badge replacement but I'd feel a whole lot more confident watching you do it first. You are meticulous lol
I didn’t do a video on it maybe next time
Do you have an alfa dealer where you are at if not if you get cides fo you just use the code reader i want one but dint have an alfa dealer here anymore
How do I order the full set of splash guards?
Send us an email through our website we made and sold many sets since this video dropped
Where is the OBD2 port located. Can't seem to locate it. Thanks.
Under drivers dash by kick panel
I really appreciate your quick response.
Alfa is still in Larchmont, any reason you don't use the location?
horrible reputation and not needed for anything thank God
Yes indeed like give the 2.0 345-400hp
2.9 550 and I guess a maserati v8 with 630-650hp! Because your right and every engine class I mentioned In all performance bands even honda and acura are making or passed in hp numbers I mentioned I own a alfa romeo stelvio ti sport playing I thought this was a plan acura but the new acura integra type s and I was pissed when he said 320 hp factory out of the same 2.0 engine!
I find my 2023 Stelvio is slower and less responsive than my 2018 Stelvio, is the preset tuning different now?
I agree but also because it defaults into N mode on the DNA so annoying
I felt the same way. I was questioning if i was imagining this. Maybe I should consider that the my 2023 is a Veloce, so is most likely slightly heavier than my 2018 base. Same motor, different weight.
The only thing that I don't like is a poor lights in the boot. They can barely light up the area, so it's hard to see where all the stuff is.
good point on that there should be more light in the rear cargo area
You wouldnt recommend a QV as a daily driver?
absolutely but not for what and how we are using the Stelvio for since I already own several other high performance cars
Love my 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport (was top trim after Quad that year) and like yours it's Trofeo White with Red but in the earlier Stelvios (before they cheaped out in 2022) the Red seats came with tasty RED ACCENTS on the door cards, lower dash, center console, contrast red stitching on the steering wheel, gear shift lever and door cards and dash !! This one looks like they plucked the red seats out of a salvaged car and plopped them in . Sorry dog, but the older interiors were WAY NICER !!
Does the autel scanner that you recommend actually clear codes without going deep into your dashboard and installing the device that bypasses the sgw tech? My indie mechanic coded my stelvio and couldnt clear the codes after hours of attempts at it!
What do you mean he coded your vehicle? The Autel scanner erase codes easily
Any air conditioning problems ?
Zero and this summer is brutally hot
So you didn't got the Stelvio QV?? 😱
The only value I see for this car is it’s one of the best used cars to buy. Because it depreciates so much, and nothing is practically new from 2020 - present. So it’s a super great deal to buy used models.
I don’t think it really competes with 50-60k market, but it is really good within 20-30k market
true you can get a quad stelvio for like 50k when MSRP Is almost 90k
Except its very difficult to find one that has been properly maintained with available service records.
No, this car has plenty of value. Try actually driving one before criticizing it.
Is it just me or does a Mazda ad preroll every car video for everyone else too?
Bypass the stop start - takes 30 seconds so much better
What gas station?
Royal Petroleum on Tuckahoe RD stay away
Have you ever experienced the engine struggling on a cold start when the temps are low (30 degrees or lower ) ?
never but that sounds like a bad battery
I did. It was related to the battery. You need to drive often when it's cold to keep the battery charged. Otherwise the engine does sound scary when it warms up.
I've experienced cold starts. Like everyone else says, it significantly reduced with a new battery.
Clean cars work and feel beer.
You got that right!
Bypass the stop start - takes 30 seconds so much better. Also the 23 wheels ain’t very nice - the 19/20 so much better
Maybe that gas station had too much ethanol in their tanks. It’s cheaper for them and we get scammed. Your cars r not flex-fuel. They r all high performance.
Too much ethanol burns too hot and burns the valves. That’s why engines knock and trip the computer
Yeah it was crazy how it affected three of my cars that weekend. Weird thing my M3 cel was able to be erased but it eventually came back the next day and two BMW dealers couldn’t fix it after this incident. One dealer diagnosed a high pressure fuel rail sensor being faulty but the part was indefinitely backorder but i sold car shortly after
Surprised your passenger door panel leather is that unsightly. Don't you use a good leather conditioner on all of the surfaces?? Also the gloves make no sense to me. If you are worried about contamination/germs from the gas pumps just use a hand sanitizer after you pump gas. The gloves probably aren't cleaned after each use so those germs you're worried about are on the gloves now and you're touching them with your bare hands everytime you put them on and take them off when you pump gas.
First off the gloves are disposable and new ones used every time and hand sanitizer does not kill all pathogens and is not good to continually use. The leather got that way from leaving window cracked by accident in rain no conditioner will fix that
Thanks for the response! You’re fabulous and I love your channel. Oh also I forgot to ask what your opinion is on the HK audio for the Stelvio.
audio systems on all the Alfas is mediocre at best
Why you so concern with Hybrid ownership when you don't own a car more than 3 yrs?
Headaches fixing them thats why.
8/100k, bro?
Isn’t Alfa still in larchmont ny ? That’s 20 minutes from us
Way back their service center was closed doing major construction no idea if they ever opened a service facility again but we had to use the Jeep dealer to do the recall on the ave in new Rochelle last year regarding i still wouldn’t trust them doing certain things