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Brian I always respect your YT because you are by far 1 of the most practical YT out there. But I wish you would put this iron issue to bed. If u really drill down on the iron issue by university studies iron is something u should avoid. Avoid the influencers and posers and the true university studies, for the most part, contradict ever using iron unless you are iron deficient. Iron really isn’t plant available unless your pH is acidic. And iron has to be in a very specific ion status to be plant available. And the biggest scam is most iron products include urea so the green pop is N not iron. If you really look at iron through the lens of a soil scientist it will change your thinking. It’s really time to use science and avoid these YT prima donnas who don’t understand soil biology. There is a huge dance between P and Fe and if you really want to destroy your lawn keep pounding it with insoluble, non bioavailable Fe.
I had the same issue. At the start of spring. I put Ironite down and it didn't do anything. A month later I sprayed liquid Ironite with my pump sprayer. I noticed a difference in 24 hrs.
I tell u the NEXT micro greene and green effect combo is my favorite within hours I've seen color change ... but I agree any liquid iron is hands down king above granular great video my man
I've used a few Green County products but haven't used those because I used to live in OR where the products couldn't be purchased. I'll have to give them a try sometime this year to see that effect for myself - I've heard a number of people say the same thing as you!
@@TurfMechanic u wont be disappointed...I've applied with a sprayer and missed a strip and could actually see the exact strip ive missed in color lol.....best of luck lawns looking great
@@johnjrkean7008you'd save a ton of money by spraying urea and just mixing in some main event or any chelated iron. The cost it takes to ship liquids is hefty and it's normally worked into the cost.
Wow you got that concrete division line done, looks nice. I think overseeding with elite cultivars is a more concise and cost effective way to get a darker green lawn.
That's WILD! Thank you for sharing this. I'd be too scared to attempt this on my front lawn. The results literally speak for themselves in "real-world" conditions. "Knowing is half the battle!" (80's reference) Lol Thank you Brian as always for GREAT CONTENT.
I know right!?! I expected the lawn to look really weird for a while on the 5x dose and was ok with that for experimentation sake but even I underestimated the lack of effectiveness of Ironite in a week's time. :D The more you experiment the more you know, not sure if that's a reference or not but it fits for this situation.
yep, only had success with chelated Iron pump sprayed on. It's also a great way for grass that has trouble getting iron from high PH soil since it skips that step.
knowledge bomb for all the comment readers there; thanks for that addition! Grass has a very hard time accessing Iron in high ph soils so skipping the soil completely with a liquid application is easily the most efficient way to use it for color.
Last year, I had better luck with Scott's Max green than Ironite. I'm gonna try liquid, but in the backyard first. That way, If I make any mistakes, I won't be so embarrassed. Nice video, keep um coming.
doing low rate liquid iron applications is good practice on using equipment and applying evenly and with hose end sprayers it's super quick and easy to apply. At low rates you get a slight boost most everywhere and overapplications anywhere on accident won't likely be noticeable. Also, if you use a tank sprayer and go in lines you'll get good practice on getting even coverage and if you make mistakes you only get color lines in the lawn that will fade in time. Not a big risk IMO.
@@TurfMechanic Thanks. My lawn is doing ok after my mistake of applying a low dose of fert recently. I think I lucked out with lower temptures, rain and cloud cover during the the weak after. Thaks again for the advice and have a great day.
The only time I've ever seen ironite work is when I'm planting plants. And I put it down in the hole. Normally when I put it on the lawn it doesn't make much of a difference.
Brian, thank you for this very informative, that goes for your content overall. This is why I love your channel, it is way beyond "watch me cut grass and apply fertilizer". I wonder if they could coat the iron with a polymer that breaks down with water.
I wonder if grass species makes a difference? I use ironite (at a heavy rate) every 6-8 weeks or so from July-Sep on a Zoysia lawn, and it makes a pretty big impact, especially contrasted with my neighbors centipede/bermuda lawn.
Today is day 21 and you still can't see the faintest difference between any of the application spots and the rest of the untreated lawn. The liquid side however is still going strong except for some new growth that has come up in the last 10 days or so.
This is a pretty eye opening comparison, especially with the app rate variables. Let's also mention the cost. Just two years ago, Ironite was $15 per bag at the big box stores. This year it's now $30 for a small bag. I think casual users were ok with mediocre and very slow performance a couple years ago, but for someone that will be needing 2-4 bags at $30 per little bag, they are going to be expecting actual results especially after a rain. I've used it in the past and have had mediocre performance and won't be buying it anymore - especially now how well I've seen Feature work.
yeah, the case for granule iron is very weak IMO, at this point I think the best way to apply this is to do a deep dethatching and debris removal prior to application and watering. Maybe if you do this a couple times per year it might give gradual benefit but for the price it's a hard sell for anyone looking for results.
I love this video. It comes in at a time that might work for me. My question is can be liquid iron that you use be used even in the hottest of temperatures? For example Las Vegas Nevada in the summer when it hits 107 to 115°? Thank you for sharing. And thank you for caring.
Before applying Ironite or any other products to the lawn, you should try to repair and overseed the bare spots first. A lawn is not going to look good (regardless of how green it is) if it has bare spots.
I tried ironite for years before going liquid. Never saw a bit of green up from ironite and I’m assuming it’s from high PH. I can’t find the source again but I thought I found at some point that it doesn’t work above 7.8 or something around there, and I’m in the 8.0-8.2 range. I’ve tried some other liquid irons with mixed results but the liquid iron you used has always crushed it for me!
@@craigburnett6099I did a soil test and it reported ph for me. I’m not sure the science behind it. I used the yard mastery kits for cost and convenience but I’ve heard local agriculture schools and extensions can do them too
It needs water to oxidize. If you drop it on damp soil or dry soil and barely water it in but never actually get it into the soil fast enough it will oxidize and become plant unavailable (for the most part). If it stays bone dry in the bag then it will be fine.
HAND-APPLICATION: - I have discovered that Empty SPICE Jars make good Applicators of Seed and Fertilizers - Different Spice Jars have Different Sized Holes for Light-to-Heavy Control
Its a little to late to ask for help but can you tell me what to expect? My husband is either going to kill me or be very happy with me! I added 8tablesppons of EDDHA iron Chelsea 6.0 to a half bag of milorganite and spread it all over our front lawn and watered it in thoroughly. What do you or any views out there think is going to happen? I was trying to get the lawn to be nice and dark green.
Granular irons are generally iron chemistries in solid form rather than a soluble source… why they suck has nothing to do with oxidation. The product you applied also sucks because it becomes insoluble as soon as it hits soil like any sugar-based chelation per Florida State research. That product lasts until the leaves get cut where a real chelation can last in the soil for months or even years. I could have told you what would happen with the ironite, but I was curious how the 4 different rates would go. The stuff doesn’t work because plants don’t uptake anything in solid form and solids often stay solids so they are garbage from day one and again, it has nothing to do with oxidation.
Squares never showed up, not even a little bit which surprised me. I figured at least the heaviest section would have changed even slightly but it didn't. Earlier this month I made a video testing a 5 times label rate of liquid Iron and that produced a color change but nothing was damaged either. I think over applying iron to the point of damage would take something super extreme, probably would be hard to do to an entire lawn space.
that kind of comment was quite common for me to get last year. I had just moved into this home and decided to incrementally fix the lawn and document the process throughout the season. This video was filmed very early in the year when very little work/progress had been made. Feel free to catch a segment from a recent video and you'll see how my efforts last year worked out for this Spring: ruclips.net/video/3WwyQ29zErg/видео.html
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When I come over for thanksgiving I know which bowls I’m not eating out of😂
Brian I always respect your YT because you are by far 1 of the most practical YT out there. But I wish you would put this iron issue to bed.
If u really drill down on the iron issue by university studies iron is something u should avoid.
Avoid the influencers and posers and the true university studies, for the most part, contradict ever using iron unless you are iron deficient.
Iron really isn’t plant available unless your pH is acidic. And iron has to be in a very specific ion status to be plant available.
And the biggest scam is most iron products include urea so the green pop is N not iron.
If you really look at iron through the lens of a soil scientist it will change your thinking. It’s really time to use science and avoid these YT prima donnas who don’t understand soil biology.
There is a huge dance between P and Fe and if you really want to destroy your lawn keep pounding it with insoluble, non bioavailable Fe.
I had the same issue. At the start of spring. I put Ironite down and it didn't do anything. A month later I sprayed liquid Ironite with my pump sprayer. I noticed a difference in 24 hrs.
I tell u the NEXT micro greene and green effect combo is my favorite within hours I've seen color change ... but I agree any liquid iron is hands down king above granular great video my man
I've used a few Green County products but haven't used those because I used to live in OR where the products couldn't be purchased. I'll have to give them a try sometime this year to see that effect for myself - I've heard a number of people say the same thing as you!
@@TurfMechanic u wont be disappointed...I've applied with a sprayer and missed a strip and could actually see the exact strip ive missed in color lol.....best of luck lawns looking great
@@johnjrkean7008you'd save a ton of money by spraying urea and just mixing in some main event or any chelated iron. The cost it takes to ship liquids is hefty and it's normally worked into the cost.
Liquid is my go to as well for iron.
Wow you got that concrete division line done, looks nice. I think overseeding with elite cultivars is a more concise and cost effective way to get a darker green lawn.
That's WILD!
Thank you for sharing this.
I'd be too scared to attempt this on my front lawn. The results literally speak for themselves in "real-world" conditions.
"Knowing is half the battle!"
(80's reference) Lol
Thank you Brian as always for GREAT CONTENT.
I know right!?! I expected the lawn to look really weird for a while on the 5x dose and was ok with that for experimentation sake but even I underestimated the lack of effectiveness of Ironite in a week's time. :D The more you experiment the more you know, not sure if that's a reference or not but it fits for this situation.
yep, only had success with chelated Iron pump sprayed on. It's also a great way for grass that has trouble getting iron from high PH soil since it skips that step.
knowledge bomb for all the comment readers there; thanks for that addition! Grass has a very hard time accessing Iron in high ph soils so skipping the soil completely with a liquid application is easily the most efficient way to use it for color.
Last year, I had better luck with Scott's Max green than Ironite. I'm gonna try liquid, but in the backyard first. That way, If I make any mistakes, I won't be so embarrassed. Nice video, keep um coming.
doing low rate liquid iron applications is good practice on using equipment and applying evenly and with hose end sprayers it's super quick and easy to apply. At low rates you get a slight boost most everywhere and overapplications anywhere on accident won't likely be noticeable. Also, if you use a tank sprayer and go in lines you'll get good practice on getting even coverage and if you make mistakes you only get color lines in the lawn that will fade in time. Not a big risk IMO.
@@TurfMechanic Thanks. My lawn is doing ok after my mistake of applying a low dose of fert recently. I think I lucked out with lower temptures, rain and cloud cover during the the weak after. Thaks again for the advice and have a great day.
The only time I've ever seen ironite work is when I'm planting plants. And I put it down in the hole. Normally when I put it on the lawn it doesn't make much of a difference.
Brian, thank you for this very informative, that goes for your content overall. This is why I love your channel, it is way beyond "watch me cut grass and apply fertilizer". I wonder if they could coat the iron with a polymer that breaks down with water.
I wonder if grass species makes a difference? I use ironite (at a heavy rate) every 6-8 weeks or so from July-Sep on a Zoysia lawn, and it makes a pretty big impact, especially contrasted with my neighbors centipede/bermuda lawn.
what happened 2-3 weeks later???
did you ever get a color response?
you left me on a cliff hanger lol
Today is day 21 and you still can't see the faintest difference between any of the application spots and the rest of the untreated lawn. The liquid side however is still going strong except for some new growth that has come up in the last 10 days or so.
This is a pretty eye opening comparison, especially with the app rate variables. Let's also mention the cost. Just two years ago, Ironite was $15 per bag at the big box stores. This year it's now $30 for a small bag. I think casual users were ok with mediocre and very slow performance a couple years ago, but for someone that will be needing 2-4 bags at $30 per little bag, they are going to be expecting actual results especially after a rain. I've used it in the past and have had mediocre performance and won't be buying it anymore - especially now how well I've seen Feature work.
yeah, the case for granule iron is very weak IMO, at this point I think the best way to apply this is to do a deep dethatching and debris removal prior to application and watering. Maybe if you do this a couple times per year it might give gradual benefit but for the price it's a hard sell for anyone looking for results.
I think you could have placed each granule with tweezers, particularly the very small amount area.
9:29 I’m glad you mentioned that
I love this video. It comes in at a time that might work for me. My question is can be liquid iron that you use be used even in the hottest of temperatures? For example Las Vegas Nevada in the summer when it hits 107 to 115°? Thank you for sharing. And thank you for caring.
Thanks. I always wondered if too much ironite would burn the lawn.
Before applying Ironite or any other products to the lawn, you should try to repair and overseed the bare spots first. A lawn is not going to look good (regardless of how green it is) if it has bare spots.
I tried ironite for years before going liquid. Never saw a bit of green up from ironite and I’m assuming it’s from high PH. I can’t find the source again but I thought I found at some point that it doesn’t work above 7.8 or something around there, and I’m in the 8.0-8.2 range. I’ve tried some other liquid irons with mixed results but the liquid iron you used has always crushed it for me!
Battle camp fan: maybe a dumb question. How do you determine ph on dirt? Thanks
@@craigburnett6099I did a soil test and it reported ph for me. I’m not sure the science behind it. I used the yard mastery kits for cost and convenience but I’ve heard local agriculture schools and extensions can do them too
Wouldn't a lot of it have oxidized in the bag? I wonder the same about nitrogen gassing from fertilizers.
It needs water to oxidize. If you drop it on damp soil or dry soil and barely water it in but never actually get it into the soil fast enough it will oxidize and become plant unavailable (for the most part). If it stays bone dry in the bag then it will be fine.
Good test.
When you spray diluted iron does it stain concrete as a granular would?
Or not as much of an issue?
HAND-APPLICATION:
- I have discovered that Empty SPICE Jars make good Applicators of Seed and Fertilizers
- Different Spice Jars have Different Sized Holes for Light-to-Heavy Control
ohh yeah! I've seen this used before and forgot all about it. I need to start collecting all of our used shakers for just this purpose. Thanks!
brian , are we to mix the liquid iron ( Lawn Star ) , with a gallon of water ?
Its a little to late to ask for help but can you tell me what to expect? My husband is either going to kill me or be very happy with me! I added 8tablesppons of EDDHA iron Chelsea 6.0 to a half bag of milorganite and spread it all over our front lawn and watered it in thoroughly. What do you or any views out there think is going to happen? I was trying to get the lawn to be nice and dark green.
Too bad it only last 2 weeks
Granular irons are generally iron chemistries in solid form rather than a soluble source… why they suck has nothing to do with oxidation. The product you applied also sucks because it becomes insoluble as soon as it hits soil like any sugar-based chelation per Florida State research. That product lasts until the leaves get cut where a real chelation can last in the soil for months or even years. I could have told you what would happen with the ironite, but I was curious how the 4 different rates would go. The stuff doesn’t work because plants don’t uptake anything in solid form and solids often stay solids so they are garbage from day one and again, it has nothing to do with oxidation.
Did the squares ever show up? I think applied too much iron
Squares never showed up, not even a little bit which surprised me. I figured at least the heaviest section would have changed even slightly but it didn't. Earlier this month I made a video testing a 5 times label rate of liquid Iron and that produced a color change but nothing was damaged either. I think over applying iron to the point of damage would take something super extreme, probably would be hard to do to an entire lawn space.
@@TurfMechanic Thank you for the reply and video was really helpful.
DO A FOLLOW UP IN A MONTH. perhaps the ironite will have kicked in by then.....
Good idea!
Have you tried FEature 6-0-0?
My experience with granular ironite is it kicks in 2 - 3 weeks later...with poka-doting in lower spots
looks alomst the same
mmm not certain I can take you advice when your yard is basically a patch of bare dirt
that kind of comment was quite common for me to get last year. I had just moved into this home and decided to incrementally fix the lawn and document the process throughout the season. This video was filmed very early in the year when very little work/progress had been made. Feel free to catch a segment from a recent video and you'll see how my efforts last year worked out for this Spring: ruclips.net/video/3WwyQ29zErg/видео.html
Iron Pro is cheaper and better
Did the 4 squares ever green up?...in varying amounts?
never noticed a difference at all. I really thought there would be at least a small difference but I couldn't find any no matter how long I waited.