The guitar she's playing is a gift from Izzy Hale from Halestorm when the toured with them. There's a video of Izzy giving Dany the guitar. Dany also has a yellow Mustard guitar from Matt Bellamy from Muse.
The Warning are pretty open about using backing tracks as needed. They are normally not overdone and it is typically something they recorded themselves (so the music is fuller and you’re still listening to them). In this song you have an exception where the backing vocals of Alessia Cara are there as the song was released as a collaboration. Paulina has a laptop where she controls backing tracks. You can see it in the drum kit.
Yep; I think this backing track was originally recorded for the Cara part, and perhaps some of that "extra cymbal" work snuck in. Or what intentionally left in; whichever. I personally don't hear what he's describing, or if I do I just ascribe it to the nature of the snares "rebounding" (which is the entire point of a snare drum)... but after years of blasting my ears with military jet engines, my high frequency hearing accuracy is shot anyway... 😋
@@MrJest2 Ditto, I can't hear it either but a career in the Army explains that. Pau has also mentioned there are tracks which just go to their in ear monitors and someone mentioned once that some bands have things like, "and chorus in 3,2,1" or the first couple words of a verse right before the verse starts to get the singer straight.
Yup, they use backing tracks judiciously, most of the time. They occasionally do a show here and there without them, for a more "raw live" sound. Also keep in mind, for the guitar parts, is that Dany also has the capability on her pedal board to split her signal up to 3 ways, with various delays and octaves and effects and amp voicing and panning trickery to make her one guitar sound like an army. Plus backing tracks when needed for the important background parts she can't cover simultaneously live.
@@MrJest2 , Yeah. I can't hear it either. That's what happens when you work in a noisy factory for 30 years. By the time OSHA made the company require hearing protection, the damage was done.
There's definitely some backing track for Alessia Cara's "ooh-ooh" in the background. Might be some extra percussion on it too as you said. Pau runs some tracks through Ableton using a foot pedal. There's usually a click track, the occasional rhythm guitar for when Dany is doing solos, the occasional piano on some songs, a sampling of their manager Rudy doing a bit in one song, et cetera. Nothing drastic. Dany sometimes also runs a splitter from her foot pedals for extra guitar depth. Dany's playing the Gibson Explorer that Lzzy Hale gave her in this video!
I have to admit, I am not a Metallica fan, and I was sick of this song, until this version came along. A lullaby where Dany very sweetly puts you to bed, then rouses the troops, shares a little prayer, and the angel chorus comes to sing you to sleep, then Boom, the hammer drops. I think of this very much as the female version of the Sandman tale. So good. Delicate, powerful, soothing, strong, gentle, fierce-all at the same time. I love this one. At their shows in Monterrey and Mexico City last month, they even added a string section to the performances. It was so cool.
I am a Metallica fan and I felt the same way. I had tried to avoid Enter Sandman for decades now-as much as one possibly can with how overplayed it is. Then these ladies came along and turned it into a song I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of listening to.
There is a series called Gear Masters that goes into the performing rigs of bands and episode 471 just featured Daniela going over her entire setup with details on guitars, strings, pickups and her programming of her Kemper model and how the sound is split and modified for each song using delays and more or less distortion etc. They are all gear nerds. Pau runs the show with Ableton 10 and control even the lights with foot pedals while playing. She has done rundowns of her equipment many times, but Gear Masters has a new one coming out soon as well as one with Ale.
To be clear I don't think she had to worry about doing it all herself for this show. Lalo their sound engineer is a genius with regard to getting the sound perfect in many different venues
There is one song where I thought she was using a track for 8th notes on the high hat, only to see it from another angle and realize she was playing the 8th notes with her right foot on the right high hat and playing the kick drum with her left (using the second pedal from her double bass). I've also seen her rotate all the way to the right and do the same thing, except playing the main kick pedal with her left foot I don't know if she normally does that on some songs or if she was doing it just because she's Pau and she can. She's an incredible drummer, but most people don't realize because they focus on her vocals.
Nice catch on the percussion, never noticed it before during their live performances. Yes they do use minimal backing tracks live, which Pau controls using a foot pedal and the laptop next to her kit. The nice thing about all 3 of them being really good vocalists and experts at harmonizing together, is that they generally don't need backing tracks for their vocals (this song being an exception because of Alessia Cara being a guest vocalist). I really like this "re-imagination" of the song they did, The Warning really were able to nail the "creepy lullaby" vibe that Metallica intended. This song is also one of the best examples of The Warning's songwriting chops; not only did they take an iconic song and make it their own, they did so in an absurdly short amount of time (I wanna say they wrote and recorded the song in the span of a week). Side note, that white guitar you pointed out is the one that Lzzy Hale gifted to Dany on stage while The Warning was touring with Halestorm last year. Lzzy is one of Dany's heroes, and for good reason as Lzzy is an all around rock and roll badass. If you're not familar with Halestorm, you should give them a listen (I'd suggest their Grammy winning song "Love Bites (So Do I)") as they're a great hard rock band and Lzzy is an absolute vocal monster.
Just as Pau has nothing to do... she ALSO run the click track and other backing track if it's need... you know that woman beind the big drum who also sing.. lolll I just love her.
They have backing tracks on many songs. Pau plays them via Ableton on her MacBook and starts/stops them with MIDI pedals. They play to a click so that they stay in sync with the track. You can hear Alessia Cara singing on this song, too.
Yeah, they chose to keep a couple of things from the original studio version with Alessia Cara. It was important to keep Alessia's 'Woah ooh's', but I wouldn't have chosen to include the trap beats that the producer inserted into the studio cut. I just think they aren't necessary, and don't add anything to the performance. You might react to the official music video if you want to understand the context - that was the version that went on the Metallica Black List Album.
Yesh they use tracks, just like rush did. But a lot of yhe harmonies are them, live, like when you asked, it was Pau, again taking the high notes. But the ah ahs, layered, angelical choruses, are tracks, it's them also, but pre recorded, and the Canadian pop star Alessia Cara has the wooh oh oh oh oh's track. In the studio version, Cara sings parts of the beginning of the song, not just the backing oh's
In the second “Hush little baby”, Dany fingerpicks with her thumb and index finger. Right beforehand, she flips the pick between her index and second fingers and afterward rolls the pick to normal position.
If you look you can see the computer by Pau. She operates with a foot pedal. You are the second person that noticed the drum backing track. It’s so subtle. They use backing tracks. I see some people explaining this. Good reaction.
Pau has a complete rig rundown video on RUclips showing her kit with the laptop and explains she runs ableton thru a foot pedal and controls Dany s pedal board . Pau builds all the songs and she triggers the tracks with a pedal .
They've had backing tracks at almost all their live shows ever since they introduced their second album at Lunario CDMX in 2018. Seems odd to fixate so strongly on something so minor but like my Dad said; Different people are different.
Agree 100 percent! ZZ-TOP used backing tracks live forever as a LOT of bands, especially 3 piece bands do. KISS even goes to the point where they are flat out lip sinking. Most of the time people that like to point out any little negative they can are just jealous that they cannot perform/write as well as who they are picking apart...
They use backing tracks to augment their live sound. Pau's running Ableton on the laptop next to her drum kit. She has a video where she explains the whole setup. It's intense. She cues up the tracks for each song with foot pedals. It's a smart way to use tracks... not as a substitute for live playing, but in order to flesh out the overall sound.
They do use a backing track on some songs and definitely this one. From harsh experience, they make sure that if their backing track fails the song can still be fully performed and enjoyed. I forget which show it was, but Pau's computer (with the click and backing tracks) fell off the computer strand and stopped working mid song. The audience did not notice. I think someone said that at MTV VMA's the click track was not working and those were kick-ass performances.
The friggin' epicness of this friggin' song and you're going to fixate on a trap hi hat backing track!?!?! Of all the things to fixate on in this song that's what you focus on... ok... The Warning make no secret of their use of backing tracks to fill out their sound as a three piece. Pau runs Ableton Live on her MacBook and triggers it with three Roland foot pedal, Play, Pause and Stop. They also use ...shocker ,a click track which is also controlled by Ableton. The video presentation is also controlled by the laptop as well as triggering Dany's Kemper pedal board to the proper song, Dany still control the board though. Why this is such a controversy is beyond me, bands like Led Zeppelin and Rush, Van Halen and Iron Maiden use backing tracks TO AUGMENT THEIR SOUND. The Warning play every instrument and sing (except in Enter Sandman, that's done by Alessia Cara whom they credit every time before playing the song) every note on their backing tracks.
Anyhoo, I love what they do and their sound. It's not full metal jacket heavy, nor is it soft rock. It's in between and it's great. Somewhat refreshing to see 3 sisters from Mexico jamming like they do.
I guess your ears are better than my ears or my earbuds, because I never noticed that extra percussion before. They do run a click track and backing track with stems on some songs triggered by Pau, for sound effects, occasionally keyboard and perhaps a second guitar, though Dany often uses octave shift and delay on her footboard sent through the opposite channel to fatten the sound and give the illusion of a second guitar. The high, background “Oh, oh, oh, ohs” you hear at some points in this song is Alessia Cara (with whom they collaborated on this version) on a backing track. 😎👍
Yep, they use a lot of tracks to fill in sound. Several songs have layered guitar parts, so one of the parts gets played by Dany and the other is a track. They then put in samples like the cymbal work you heard in this song or the cash register in Money. They seem to take the approach of always playing the most prominent parts of their songs live, and then filling in the rest with tracks. Then with Dany doubling her guitar channels live, it's how they're able to produce so much noise with just three people. They've done a couple acoustic sets, but I'd be curious to hear a powered set with no laptop sometime to just get an appreciation for how much their tracks add to the experience.
Yes they use backing tracks, but they don't try to hide it. Pau has a video where she shows all the things she has to do besides drumming (and singing). It's real short (6 minutes). "The Warning: Pau Day Rig Rundown"
Yes, they use backing tracks that they have prerecorded. But, I am a drummer and watched this video a hundred times and I don't hear the "cymbal" that you are hearing. I think you are just hearing a bit of cymbal reverb from post-production maybe, or pau open HiHat vibration being picked up.. They do use the backing vocal track from Alessia Cara, since this was a collaboration. In the official video, you do hear some other backing tracks, like electronic drums in places. So, there may be something I have not isolated, that you are hearing. Anyway, this song is AMAZING live!! Alessia Cara joined them live only once, at the Troubadour in LA last year. It was EPIC! There are videos out there of it!
As a three-piece, they use backing tracks on a lot of their songs to fill the sound out, but everything on the backing tracks is played/sung by them, apart from on this song Alessia Cara's backing vocals are mixed in from the album version. I think they have an extra singer on the backing track for Money as well, I know they do in the album version. Pau has a laptop next to her kit that triggers the extra tracks, she spends untold hours programming all the extra parts into Ableton Live for the live show (not sure if she has more help with this now they are signed). They try to give you the same or better sound live as it was on the album. Dany did a quick rundown of her gear the other day, as a guitar nerd, you will probably enjoy it. ruclips.net/video/kMPWxinxmoI/видео.html
I have listened to this countless times. I try to hear everything and each one of them, this is the first time I've heard the little cymbal tickity tick. Thanks for pointing that out.
Near as I can tell from glimpses of Pau’s laptop, there are multiple backing tracks on any given song. Some people are probably come at me for saying that, but I’m not wrong.
Correct. There are rhythm guitar tracks, recorded by Dany, keyboards, played by one of them, shakers, the evangelist speech in DTD, the cash register sound in Money, etc. None of this I consider cheating.
TW use backing tracks and a click track for all their live shows but, they record all their backing tracks themselves. No in-studio musicians assisting them. The added percussion is from the studio recording with Alessia Cara's added vocals as well. Their backing tracks and click track are triggered by Paulina on a lap top next to her drum kit. FYI: TW and Alessia arranged, recorded, mixed, and submitted the song to the Blacklist team in 10 days. This was during Covid while TW were at home in Mexic, Alessia in Canada, and producer David Bendeth - who mixed the track- in New Jersey. The concept album you are thinking of is "Queen of the Murder Scene."
As some others pointed out, this song was done with alessia cara as a guest artist. Because this was done during Covid, the tracks were recorded separately and then mixed together. I believe that they play a lot of the Alessia Cara recording as background tracks to maintain some song integrity. This would be why you are hearing slight sounds of tapping cymbals (along with the ooo's and ahh's) that aren't coming from the girls.
Actually, it is the other way around. Alessia was initially invited by Metallica for the Blacklist album, but she didn't know a single song from the Black album. It was Chris Smith of 21 Entertainment Group who suggested the collaboration with The Warning, he knows them as they are featured artists with 21 EG as their international booking agent. Alessia and the Metallica Blacklist team agreed.
Unfortunately most reactors react to this song having no idea that it’s the live version of the Blacklist album song with Alessia Cara. That context is important for this reason. Alessia’s backing vocals. They all usually work backwards and figure it out eventually. The confusion is understandable. They all think it’s an updated version of the cover from 9 years ago so I get it. Kind of. The information is there if they read it. Or listen to Dany’s intro of the song.
For this song, I cannot say for sure, but I suspect that they are contractually obligated to mention Alessia and include some of her vocals, so we hear Alessia's vocal parts on a backing track. They do use some backing tracks, but I do not mind, as their audio engineer on their latest album mentioned in a making of documentary, that everything on the album was played by them, no session musicians or backup singers were used. Also I have spoken to fans that were at shows where the laptop crashed and they played the rest of the show without click or backing tracks with no issues, they were just missing some rhythm guitar parts and sound effects. As long as a band can stil perform without the laptop, I do not mind, because this means that they do not rely on it and it is only used to add small touches.
Contractually or otherwise, I cannot imagine that they would not give Alessia credit this way; it's just part of their nature. They used a small string ensemble to support Black Holes and this song at their Monterrey and Mexico City shows last month, and had them positioned quite prominently on stage (violins and violas on the steps to the drum riser, cellos on the floor facing the audience quite far forward), and as they were leaving the stage, Dany called them back to introduce and thank them.
The white explorer was given to Dany by Lzzy Hale in the middle of her performance when the warning opened for Lzzy. Dany freaked out! She thought it was just a loaner was told it was hers to keep.
Pau does have *two Hi-Hats* (one on each side) with her kit. Maybe she's playing a hi hat with her foot pedal. Or the hi hat is on their backing track on the Ableton laptop to her right. She also controls her laptop with pedals (one pedal for on & another pedal on the opposite side to stop & change to the next track))
probably backing track handled by pau, they do use backing tracks but they also bring the real deal, also there is a high hat tucked in right above the toms
She has a 14” closed high hat on her right side, could’ve been what you’re hearing. I’d be surprised if she can’t find time to use it instead of a stem. Does far more complicated patterns without a track tbh.
I honestly don't hear that backing track, maybe because of my headphones. In the song Disciple she does a nice job with the Hit-Hat during the regular parts of the song that no one ever cares to mention; what Im saying is that she could easily do live those parts you hear in the track that for some reasons she doesn't if its the case.
I heard that percussion part on the studio release video with Alessia Cara. Which they use her backing vocals live for this song they always introduce the song as Metallica’s Enter Sandman with Alessia Cara. Perhaps the percussion is mixed with Alessias vocals. They do use backing tracks sometimes 99.9 % are recorded and played by The Warning and never overpower a song with them. Such a great band. 🤘⚡️🤘
yep! most all backing tracks are done by DPA themselves... Alessia's are recorded for the live sessions when she isn't there plus she was also in Canada when the recording was done... then there are some effects or talking that are recorded for consistency (eg: Rudy's speech in QOTMS, sirens and similar in Copper Bullets, etc) but yeah, DPA either do them themselves or they create them themselves...
It's a reasonable form of introduction, since it was Cara who got the original invitation from Metallica. As I gather, it was a label management person who initially suggested she pair with _The Warning_ , because she is not a "hard rock" artist and wasn't entirely sure how to proceed with the project. In the end, it was a perfect matching really, and a stand-out production for the Black List album... so much so it was the first track on the official recording!
@@MrJest2 i agree with everything you wrote except the last statement... the tracks on the Blacklist album are in the same order as they are on the Black album... because there are multiples of each track, Metallica decided to list them in order of the submitting groups/artists' names... if, for example, a country singer named Aaron had submitted a country rendition of Enter Sandman, then it would have been listed first... personally i think that Metallica were looking for renditions of the Black album tracks in other genres... like a country rendition of Enter Sandman, a R&B rendition of Holier Than Thou, a soul rendition of Don't Tread On Me, and similar... i can easily imagine each of the tracks in multiple genres like that... unfortunately the assignment was apparently not understood by many...
The backing tracks are just to fill out the song as they are only a 3 piece band and most bands nowadays use backing tracks. I do not get the fixation on it. They do record all their backing tracks and just add it to fill out the song. They never use vocals on backing tracks except for this song as Alessia Cara collaborated with them on this and it is her backing track doing the "whoa whoa whoa". Other than that, this was a great rendition of Enter Sandman.
As others have said, yes they use backing tracks, to enhance the sound for the audience, however, they have had computer crashes during concerts.....and no one knew about it.
They have done at least 5 versions of ETS now. Last month they did 3 shows with a string symphony section on stage backing this and a couple of other songs. They use minimal backing tracks. In the last few years their computer has failed 5 or 6 times and only the biggest fans notice the backing tracks are missing. You spend way to much time talking about backing tracks
The main changes are playing it in half time.And turning it around backwards basicly. The first line "take my hand" is the last line of the original. The Main riff that starts Metalicas version was used as a outro here. The main solo in the middle of the original was replaced with the triple reprisal that happens after the prayer . Add in the harmonies on the vocals . what they ended up with a slower and spookier version. Hey Metallica heres you song back. We fixed it. Thanks The Warning
Not only a re- imagination of this song but composed and performed from a females perspective perhaps ! Looking forward to you going through the Queen of the murder scene album from Lunario.
The Warning have reduced the role of the backing track on this chart, which used to bring much more of Alessia Cara's voice into the mix but still brings most of her oohs. I had to boost the treble a bit to bring out the added cymbal effect more clearly. It's subtle, but no doubt it's coming from the backing track. As you say, nothing wrong with that. They aren't pretending to play anything they really aren't and have been pretty open about how they make a 3-piece sound as big as they do.
The backing track was supplied by the producer who i believe was David bendeth, correct me please if I’m wrong, either done to fit into Alessia’s genre more or possibly at her suggestion as a musician and coarranger herself. It was never hidden and was discussed at some point in a documentary or interview about this song , if i recall. It sounds very 808 to me but it’s been years since i used those devices lol so I’m possibly way off. Definitely was done for the partnership between the two artists, since the warning have never used an 808 or similar drum machine that I’m aware of.
Definitely some added backtracks. Including Alessia Cara in the choral parts and the Wo-ahs. They always credit her as a collaborator when performing this song
Pau has a laptop up by her drums, they don’t hide it, she triggers and controls all the backing tracks, they play all the main portions of their music live. There’s no lip syncing here and that’s what matters to me. One of the best rock bands ever, RUSH, used backing tracks occasionally, so whatever…
Excellent reaction, analysis, opinion and commentary... Very interesting. Thank you for continuing with our favorite band and greetings from México!! 🇲🇽 🤘😁✌️
They use various backing tracks throughout their concerts. Nothing quite so elaborate as a group like Nightwish or Muse and the like, but they fill in the 3-piece sound in part through that (also through tech tricks to make the instruments bigger and fuller in performance). Pau runs things as far as I understand. At least up through 2020 (see this video) and you can see in recent concerts she has the laptop next to her. I don't know if they will switch to a full-on tech crew at some point if they start getting really big and want Muse-level extravaganzas, but they are very tech-savvy and want to put on a powerful show (funds limiting, of course, at present - confetti!). As many have noted, this tune has the Alessia Cara backing tracks to make the live performances echo somewhat the studio version on the Metallica tribute album (although I think their live versions of ES are a good bit better than the studio version).
A "Pau Cam" video is a camera set behind her, can be fun to watch. You can sometimes see the laptop with Ableton running, and/or the midi pedal used to trigger the Ableton. It's on her left, although some videos are reversed in post (I dunno why), making it appear to be on the right.
Ryan Roxie, lead guitar for Alice Cooper, interviewed them last year, and they discussed backing tracks at some length (somewhere around the 35 minute mark in ruclips.net/video/7pSAnFYBY_k/видео.html). Pau did most of the discussion from their end; her take is basically that the backing tracks should not be the song, but it's fine to use them to add elements that cannot be reproduced on stage, and as others have noted they record their own tracks. There are a handful of exceptions (e. g. the male voice during the Dust to Dust breadown, which obviously they cannot personally do, but their manager, Rudy Joffroy, provided it). As an example, Survive originally opened with Ale playing piano accompanying Pau's vocals, and there has always been a tracked piano part during the extended outro. However, when they started touring more extensively, they reworked the opening to use light guitar and bass parts rather than using a piano track. It does significantly change the character of the opening (not for the better IMO, but not enough to displace it from the #1 spot on my list), but in that situation they apparently preferred to use a different opening rather than track a core part of the song. If the track failed in the outro, it would definitely be noticeable, but would not materially change the song. As others have noted, they have had breakdowns of their click and backing tracks on stage, which often pass unnoticed. However, if they have issues with their instruments, or forget lyrics, those are more noticeable (although in the latter case Pau can jump in so quickly that unless one knows who's supposed to be singing it's not entirely apparent). At one concert, something was wrong with her guitar setup, and that light opening wound up being very heavy. Dany jumped up, ran over to her pedalboard, but couldn't fix it, so she stopped and let Ale handle the rest of the opening.
Somewhere there is a video where Pau goes over all of her controls. She controls the click/backing track from pedals. Dany does a gear rundown where she talks about her guitars and pedal board.
They do use backing tracks, usually a second guitar and sometimes a keyboard and rarely something else. But the arrangements are so, that if everything technological goes to hell, they still get a great song.
Great reaction. I saw The Warning open for The Pretty Reckless immediately prior to this show. Remember thinking its was not a good idea to do this Metallica cover. Then half way thru thinking it was one of the greatest performances of a song I’ve ever heard. Midway in Paulina completely steals the show! You can’t take your eyes off of her! They made me a huge fan of all three ladies…..but c’mon. Paulina is generationally special. Whomever recorded this did a good job, except the last half is mostly Pau, but this recording doesn’t seem like it. It’s great in the recording but it’s INCREDIBLE live. Pau is doing it with her foot, but I don’t recall what the machine is called, Daniella has a similar thing she uses her foot on as well. They showed in a post about several of their songs. At about 1 minute in the crowd was stunned in kind of a “WTF are we witnessing”?!?
This was originally a collaboration with Alessia Cara from Canada, and they are including some of her vocal backing here. Some of the studio effects are included as well. Pau runs Ableton Live on her laptop. It controls all that, and triggers another computer to run the light show programming in sync with the click track. Dany's pedalboard has all sorts of reverb, delay, and stereo effects capability programmed by their producer of ERROR, David Bendeth. Ale's pedalboard has similar effects. They use harmonizers and splitters and delays for stereo effects and "that wall of sound." This concert was quite obviously recorded in multitrack for later mix down. We are not hearing a simple "house PA" feed, but a "recorded live, mixed in post" polished recording. We get the best of both worlds: live visuals, and a clean mix. The songs from the MTV VMAs were recorded and mixed in a similar fashion. More and Evolve were each done in a single take there. Watch their back story video of the VMAs. It's amazing what the MTV people said about them (all positive!).
A quick comment on your point about “tracks”. I do appreciate there as some reaction channels that get into dissecting a performance from the perspective of HOW the sound is produced including musically and technically. That said most people with an ardent interest in the sound engineering have probably already watched the mass of Warning videos about their gear and how they produce their sound. I think if the HOW gets belaboured it takes away from both the reaction and the performance. What needs to be remembered is that what everyone is watching is simply entertainment, and that includes both the performance and the reaction. I would suggest that most people in any audience don’t really care HOW a sound is produced (including a glottal plosive or a center tom) they just know what they like to hear and they watch reaction channels to hear the responses of like minded people. I think you summed up your opinion of the song and the performance succinctly, but lost value in over focusing on a fragment of sound. You made a point and said you “don’t know” but, for some reason, it was hard for you to let it go at that. You have much to offer ib tiur comments but I would suggest in the words we have all heard over the years...“Don't sweat the small stuff”. Take Care David
I'm going to offer a different opinion -- I like this kind of dissection, as it's something I can learn from, even if I don't have any direct use for it. There are a lot of different reaction/review styles, plenty for everyone.
Thank you- that’s one of the things I do as a reactor who is also a musician; offering my insights into the details of the music. I do not “obsess” as someone said, I am simply interested in figuring out how musicians do what they do.
Yes, I appreciate learning anything from any reactor, especially something I didn't catch the first half-dozen times I listened. Backing tracks are not "live", but it doesn't bother me at all when they're subtle or really needed, especially in this three-piece band, and I thought this backing track was actually a cool add. (And come on, a The Warning fan getting nitpicky mad at minor criticisms is kinda like a double-negative there, init?) @@robertkrawitz8237
I'm a drummer, so I've watched a lot of Pau videos. If you want to be sure you're hearing what she's playing without tracks mixed in, you can watch the Pau Cams that she sets up with her phone. You get the raw audio. Her foot work is incredible, but I digress. Anyway, the Pau Cam in Ufest, AZ, has Enter Sandman at 25:30.
Good ear. I know Paulina controls the tracks but good for pointing that out. Nothing against them for using tracks they still played the track. These women slay
I know that they play to a click track and Pau controls everything on a laptop using pedals. So it's quite possible they have some backing tracks included.
she has a laptop on her set if you ever watch her drum sound checks and ive herd she does control the backtracks like effects and other stuff and the guitar danny is playing was gifting by lizzy hail and there is nothing wrong with back tracking you throw so many duel vocals or guitar riffs that you sometimes have to just to keep that sound quality that was recorded on album
There's a recent video by the channel "Digital Tour Bus" that has Dany run through her setup for this tour. She talks about what she does to fill out her sound. Might be worth talking a look at if you are curious about how they craft their live sound.
This whole concert is so good. I think it has all of the songs from their Error album, a handful from QOTMS (Dust to Dust, Ugh, and Queen of the Murder Scene title track) and maybe one (or 2?) from XXI Cenury Blood. I think you should watch the Live at the Dakota to see their older songs. The Lunario concert is amazing for the full QOTMS setlist. The Covid era De(tour) from their basement is fab as well as the Live Sessions. There are also some awesome live recordings from the Whiskey A Go Go that are cool to see. You can pretty much get a good live version of their entire body of work to date.
Fairly certain that extra percussion is Dany's guitar split into different guitar patches. There's a trebley distorted layer that sounds like percussion, then there's the warmer sound with less effects which is the main. She uses up to three separated guitar patches at a time. The "whoaohh" back ground is piped in but Pau and Ale are singing the lyrical stuff. In the 80s I saw The Police's Synchronicity tour (they used backing tracks extensively) and Rush's Hold Your Fire tour also used backing tracks. I think this is a common practice for a lot of three piece bands.
Pau has another pair of 14" hats (always closed, i think) to her *right* (placed lower - just inches above the floor toms). That might be the extra percussion that you're hearing. Or hmmm 🤔 Pau does also have Ableton Live running on a laptop for prerecorded stem tracks & click tracks, launching the visual projections, and running Dany's pedalboard. (As if singing while drumming isn't multitasking enough, lol.) Here's a 9-minute vlog from 2020 of Pau giving a tour/rundown of her equipment, including her computer, drum set, InEarz, and headset microphone. → ruclips.net/video/sdJqYrzsfWg/видео.html ... I've watched this many times (lol, I'm a big Pau fan), and I actually *have* wondered when/why/how she uses those extra hats. You've spotted a good example of her using them, which I wouldn't have spotted myself, thanks. Now seeing this, it looks like a very handy place for them. Also, here are the Equipment Rundown vlogs by: Ale (3½ min): ruclips.net/video/ADk8jEMr0iY/видео.html Dany (8 min): ruclips.net/video/oV9BfTfeqHc/видео.html And for some details on Dany's pedalboard, here's a 54-minute vlog where Dany goes through the settings in detail -- repeating everything in English and Spanish for her fans (which is awesome that she's taking the time to do that). → ruclips.net/video/qdzZHL32_IY/видео.html ... Pau is holding the camera, and there are some fun interactions between sisters. ... You can see this pedalboard way back in the 2014 Enter Sandman cover video, and once again we are so thankful to the girls' parents for being so supportive.
This was awesome. I'm also a fan of the MV with Alessia Cara. You seem to be enjoying the harder stuff. Money and Disciple are good too. I have to mention Band-MAiD again for harder rock. Check them out soon.
They use Ableton Live, triggered by Pau from the laptop next to her kit. The additional high hat sound you speak of, plus some vocals from Alessia Cara - who appeared on the studio release with them, and obviously won't be there touring just for one track!
There's tasty little backing additions and always a click track used on some songs but nothing critical to the success of the song. And of course the computer crashes sometimes. 99.9% of the audience wouldn't hear the difference. Watch some of the Pau cams and you can see her running the show with her left foot. Her right foot has a pedal that kills the tracks if they get in trouble. They all say when things go south with the click, that Ale keeps them together. Nice review. DPA rock....
Since this was a collab between The Warning and Alessia Cara, the studio arrangement has a pop feel, specially at the start, to better suit her style I guess, and there is some electro beat on top of the drums with that hi hat lick. It goes off again at the lullaby section, and for the live version they put that beat in the track they've always used, that which other comments explained in better detail I could. But the live sounds heavier and mostly contains that lick and Alessia's vocals. Seems to be the case with most of their lives, for instance More sounds much harder live than the video you checked. By the way, I don't want to be that guy but you should keep an eye out for that feline rascal at the back. Might be sneakier than you suspect!
The Warning uses backing tracks very tastefully, but I don't think Pau is doing that here. There are several technique of playing the Hi-Hat with your foot that can get the sound your describing. One is called foot chick another splash with foot and you can combine them.
I watched very carefully, and the hats are not opening and closing with a pedal nor is she hitting them. It's definitely a backing track, confirmed by many comments here. They are using cool technology to give a better show, that's all!
Un cover original de The Warning, ENTER SANDMAN, el mejor tema del black list ,un tema que puede ser incluso mejor que el original,excelente interpretación ,buenos coros, TW son maestras de la composición
I saw pau's rig rundown and she has a second hi-hat to her right that is fixed to a fixed position. They do use backing tracks but in this case i think she is using her right hand to produce that beat.
I don't believe they run any backing vocals, they do play to a click which Pau controls. There's an excellent episode of Gear Masters where Dany goes through her rig. She gives a detailed explanation on how she gets her big, full sound, with her Kemper Profiler. Using the harmonizer on the Kemper in a lower octave is one of the things she does. It's esp 471.
Why do you think that Pau has that laptop standing besides her? All the extras Pau let that play with the klicktrack, extra keyboard and so on if needed. But they do it them selves, not the sound guy.
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The guitar she's playing is a gift from Izzy Hale from Halestorm when the toured with them. There's a video of Izzy giving Dany the guitar. Dany also has a yellow Mustard guitar from Matt Bellamy from Muse.
The Warning are pretty open about using backing tracks as needed. They are normally not overdone and it is typically something they recorded themselves (so the music is fuller and you’re still listening to them). In this song you have an exception where the backing vocals of Alessia Cara are there as the song was released as a collaboration. Paulina has a laptop where she controls backing tracks. You can see it in the drum kit.
Yep; I think this backing track was originally recorded for the Cara part, and perhaps some of that "extra cymbal" work snuck in. Or what intentionally left in; whichever. I personally don't hear what he's describing, or if I do I just ascribe it to the nature of the snares "rebounding" (which is the entire point of a snare drum)... but after years of blasting my ears with military jet engines, my high frequency hearing accuracy is shot anyway... 😋
@@MrJest2 Ditto, I can't hear it either but a career in the Army explains that. Pau has also mentioned there are tracks which just go to their in ear monitors and someone mentioned once that some bands have things like, "and chorus in 3,2,1" or the first couple words of a verse right before the verse starts to get the singer straight.
There is a gear rundown where Pau talks through her kit and also details the MAc / Ableton / midi pedal setup for backing tracks.
Yup, they use backing tracks judiciously, most of the time. They occasionally do a show here and there without them, for a more "raw live" sound. Also keep in mind, for the guitar parts, is that Dany also has the capability on her pedal board to split her signal up to 3 ways, with various delays and octaves and effects and amp voicing and panning trickery to make her one guitar sound like an army. Plus backing tracks when needed for the important background parts she can't cover simultaneously live.
@@MrJest2 , Yeah. I can't hear it either. That's what happens when you work in a noisy factory for 30 years. By the time OSHA made the company require hearing protection, the damage was done.
There's definitely some backing track for Alessia Cara's "ooh-ooh" in the background. Might be some extra percussion on it too as you said. Pau runs some tracks through Ableton using a foot pedal. There's usually a click track, the occasional rhythm guitar for when Dany is doing solos, the occasional piano on some songs, a sampling of their manager Rudy doing a bit in one song, et cetera. Nothing drastic. Dany sometimes also runs a splitter from her foot pedals for extra guitar depth. Dany's playing the Gibson Explorer that Lzzy Hale gave her in this video!
I have to admit, I am not a Metallica fan, and I was sick of this song, until this version came along. A lullaby where Dany very sweetly puts you to bed, then rouses the troops, shares a little prayer, and the angel chorus comes to sing you to sleep, then Boom, the hammer drops. I think of this very much as the female version of the Sandman tale. So good. Delicate, powerful, soothing, strong, gentle, fierce-all at the same time. I love this one.
At their shows in Monterrey and Mexico City last month, they even added a string section to the performances. It was so cool.
I am a Metallica fan and I felt the same way. I had tried to avoid Enter Sandman for decades now-as much as one possibly can with how overplayed it is. Then these ladies came along and turned it into a song I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of listening to.
The Gibson Explorer Dany is Playing is the Guitar Lzzy Hale of Halestorm Gifted Dany last Year when The Warning were Touring with Halestorm,
There is a series called Gear Masters that goes into the performing rigs of bands and episode 471 just featured Daniela going over her entire setup with details on guitars, strings, pickups and her programming of her Kemper model and how the sound is split and modified for each song using delays and more or less distortion etc. They are all gear nerds. Pau runs the show with Ableton 10 and control even the lights with foot pedals while playing. She has done rundowns of her equipment many times, but Gear Masters has a new one coming out soon as well as one with Ale.
To be clear I don't think she had to worry about doing it all herself for this show. Lalo their sound engineer is a genius with regard to getting the sound perfect in many different venues
Pau actually has two hi-hats one on her left and one to her right!!
There is one song where I thought she was using a track for 8th notes on the high hat, only to see it from another angle and realize she was playing the 8th notes with her right foot on the right high hat and playing the kick drum with her left (using the second pedal from her double bass).
I've also seen her rotate all the way to the right and do the same thing, except playing the main kick pedal with her left foot
I don't know if she normally does that on some songs or if she was doing it just because she's Pau and she can. She's an incredible drummer, but most people don't realize because they focus on her vocals.
The Warning, What can you say. Seen 3 times and will see them again.
Nice catch on the percussion, never noticed it before during their live performances. Yes they do use minimal backing tracks live, which Pau controls using a foot pedal and the laptop next to her kit. The nice thing about all 3 of them being really good vocalists and experts at harmonizing together, is that they generally don't need backing tracks for their vocals (this song being an exception because of Alessia Cara being a guest vocalist). I really like this "re-imagination" of the song they did, The Warning really were able to nail the "creepy lullaby" vibe that Metallica intended. This song is also one of the best examples of The Warning's songwriting chops; not only did they take an iconic song and make it their own, they did so in an absurdly short amount of time (I wanna say they wrote and recorded the song in the span of a week).
Side note, that white guitar you pointed out is the one that Lzzy Hale gifted to Dany on stage while The Warning was touring with Halestorm last year. Lzzy is one of Dany's heroes, and for good reason as Lzzy is an all around rock and roll badass. If you're not familar with Halestorm, you should give them a listen (I'd suggest their Grammy winning song "Love Bites (So Do I)") as they're a great hard rock band and Lzzy is an absolute vocal monster.
Just as Pau has nothing to do... she ALSO run the click track and other backing track if it's need... you know that woman beind the big drum who also sing.. lolll I just love her.
They have backing tracks on many songs. Pau plays them via Ableton on her MacBook and starts/stops them with MIDI pedals. They play to a click so that they stay in sync with the track. You can hear Alessia Cara singing on this song, too.
Yeah, they chose to keep a couple of things from the original studio version with Alessia Cara. It was important to keep Alessia's 'Woah ooh's', but I wouldn't have chosen to include the trap beats that the producer inserted into the studio cut. I just think they aren't necessary, and don't add anything to the performance. You might react to the official music video if you want to understand the context - that was the version that went on the Metallica Black List Album.
Backing tracks are a standard part of their live sound, used to fill out the sound of a 3-piece.
Yesh they use tracks, just like rush did. But a lot of yhe harmonies are them, live, like when you asked, it was Pau, again taking the high notes. But the ah ahs, layered, angelical choruses, are tracks, it's them also, but pre recorded, and the Canadian pop star Alessia Cara has the wooh oh oh oh oh's track. In the studio version, Cara sings parts of the beginning of the song, not just the backing oh's
In the second “Hush little baby”, Dany fingerpicks with her thumb and index finger. Right beforehand, she flips the pick between her index and second fingers and afterward rolls the pick to normal position.
If you look you can see the computer by Pau. She operates with a foot pedal. You are the second person that noticed the drum backing track. It’s so subtle. They use backing tracks. I see some people explaining this. Good reaction.
Yes they use backing tracks to fill the sound out
Pau has a complete rig rundown video on RUclips showing her kit with the laptop and explains she runs ableton thru a foot pedal and controls Dany s pedal board . Pau builds all the songs and she triggers the tracks with a pedal .
They do use backing tracks, they have Alyssa Cara from the Blacklist recording doing backround vocals on a track as well.
They make no secrets of using backing tracks. Pau has the laptop by her kit. Dany has also explained what all her foot switches do as well
They've had backing tracks at almost all their live shows ever since they introduced their second album at Lunario CDMX in 2018. Seems odd to fixate so strongly on something so minor but like my Dad said; Different people are different.
Exactly
Have to agree completely....is this the first time a band has used backing tracks?? I Think not, it's a 3 piece band. Just enjoy what they created.
Agree 100 percent! ZZ-TOP used backing tracks live forever as a LOT of bands, especially 3 piece bands do. KISS even goes to the point where they are flat out lip sinking. Most of the time people that like to point out any little negative they can are just jealous that they cannot perform/write as well as who they are picking apart...
They use backing tracks to augment their live sound. Pau's running Ableton on the laptop next to her drum kit. She has a video where she explains the whole setup. It's intense. She cues up the tracks for each song with foot pedals. It's a smart way to use tracks... not as a substitute for live playing, but in order to flesh out the overall sound.
They do use a backing track on some songs and definitely this one. From harsh experience, they make sure that if their backing track fails the song can still be fully performed and enjoyed. I forget which show it was, but Pau's computer (with the click and backing tracks) fell off the computer strand and stopped working mid song. The audience did not notice. I think someone said that at MTV VMA's the click track was not working and those were kick-ass performances.
Based on their vlog it seemed like there was no click in rehearsal but they were able to get it set up for the performance as far as I’m aware.
The friggin' epicness of this friggin' song and you're going to fixate on a trap hi hat backing track!?!?! Of all the things to fixate on in this song that's what you focus on... ok... The Warning make no secret of their use of backing tracks to fill out their sound as a three piece. Pau runs Ableton Live on her MacBook and triggers it with three Roland foot pedal, Play, Pause and Stop. They also use ...shocker ,a click track which is also controlled by Ableton. The video presentation is also controlled by the laptop as well as triggering Dany's Kemper pedal board to the proper song, Dany still control the board though. Why this is such a controversy is beyond me, bands like Led Zeppelin and Rush, Van Halen and Iron Maiden use backing tracks TO AUGMENT THEIR SOUND. The Warning play every instrument and sing (except in Enter Sandman, that's done by Alessia Cara whom they credit every time before playing the song) every note on their backing tracks.
@@adagio333 Well thank you for saying so...
Anyhoo, I love what they do and their sound. It's not full metal jacket heavy, nor is it soft rock. It's in between and it's great. Somewhat refreshing to see 3 sisters from Mexico jamming like they do.
Their sound is exceptional, 100% fillers or not.
I guess your ears are better than my ears or my earbuds, because I never noticed that extra percussion before. They do run a click track and backing track with stems on some songs triggered by Pau, for sound effects, occasionally keyboard and perhaps a second guitar, though Dany often uses octave shift and delay on her footboard sent through the opposite channel to fatten the sound and give the illusion of a second guitar. The high, background “Oh, oh, oh, ohs” you hear at some points in this song is Alessia Cara (with whom they collaborated on this version) on a backing track. 😎👍
Yep, they use a lot of tracks to fill in sound. Several songs have layered guitar parts, so one of the parts gets played by Dany and the other is a track. They then put in samples like the cymbal work you heard in this song or the cash register in Money. They seem to take the approach of always playing the most prominent parts of their songs live, and then filling in the rest with tracks. Then with Dany doubling her guitar channels live, it's how they're able to produce so much noise with just three people. They've done a couple acoustic sets, but I'd be curious to hear a powered set with no laptop sometime to just get an appreciation for how much their tracks add to the experience.
I love their rendition of the song. They have a lot of talent and my how much they've blown up in the last year or so.
Yes they use backing tracks, but they don't try to hide it. Pau has a video where she shows all the things she has to do besides drumming (and singing). It's real short (6 minutes). "The Warning: Pau Day Rig Rundown"
Yes, they use backing tracks that they have prerecorded. But, I am a drummer and watched this video a hundred times and I don't hear the "cymbal" that you are hearing. I think you are just hearing a bit of cymbal reverb from post-production maybe, or pau open HiHat vibration being picked up.. They do use the backing vocal track from Alessia Cara, since this was a collaboration. In the official video, you do hear some other backing tracks, like electronic drums in places. So, there may be something I have not isolated, that you are hearing. Anyway, this song is AMAZING live!! Alessia Cara joined them live only once, at the Troubadour in LA last year. It was EPIC! There are videos out there of it!
As a three-piece, they use backing tracks on a lot of their songs to fill the sound out, but everything on the backing tracks is played/sung by them, apart from on this song Alessia Cara's backing vocals are mixed in from the album version. I think they have an extra singer on the backing track for Money as well, I know they do in the album version. Pau has a laptop next to her kit that triggers the extra tracks, she spends untold hours programming all the extra parts into Ableton Live for the live show (not sure if she has more help with this now they are signed). They try to give you the same or better sound live as it was on the album. Dany did a quick rundown of her gear the other day, as a guitar nerd, you will probably enjoy it. ruclips.net/video/kMPWxinxmoI/видео.html
I have listened to this countless times. I try to hear everything and each one of them, this is the first time I've heard the little cymbal tickity tick. Thanks for pointing that out.
Near as I can tell from glimpses of Pau’s laptop, there are multiple backing tracks on any given song. Some people are probably come at me for saying that, but I’m not wrong.
Correct. There are rhythm guitar tracks, recorded by Dany, keyboards, played by one of them, shakers, the evangelist speech in DTD, the cash register sound in Money, etc. None of this I consider cheating.
TW use backing tracks and a click track for all their live shows but, they record all their backing tracks themselves. No in-studio musicians assisting them. The added percussion is from the studio recording with Alessia Cara's added vocals as well. Their backing tracks and click track are triggered by Paulina on a lap top next to her drum kit.
FYI: TW and Alessia arranged, recorded, mixed, and submitted the song to the Blacklist team in 10 days. This was during Covid while TW were at home in Mexic, Alessia in Canada, and producer David Bendeth - who mixed the track- in New Jersey.
The concept album you are thinking of is "Queen of the Murder Scene."
Awesome- thanks for the info!!
As some others pointed out, this song was done with alessia cara as a guest artist. Because this was done during Covid, the tracks were recorded separately and then mixed together. I believe that they play a lot of the Alessia Cara recording as background tracks to maintain some song integrity. This would be why you are hearing slight sounds of tapping cymbals (along with the ooo's and ahh's) that aren't coming from the girls.
Actually, it is the other way around. Alessia was initially invited by Metallica for the Blacklist album, but she didn't know a single song from the Black album. It was Chris Smith of 21 Entertainment Group who suggested the collaboration with The Warning, he knows them as they are featured artists with 21 EG as their international booking agent. Alessia and the Metallica Blacklist team agreed.
The best, the harmonies from Ale. I love it.
Unfortunately most reactors react to this song having no idea that it’s the live version of the Blacklist album song with Alessia Cara. That context is important for this reason. Alessia’s backing vocals. They all usually work backwards and figure it out eventually. The confusion is understandable. They all think it’s an updated version of the cover from 9 years ago so I get it. Kind of. The information is there if they read it. Or listen to Dany’s intro of the song.
Yes- I knew it was from the Blacklist album. I was referring to the added hi-hats that Pau is clearly not playing.
For this song, I cannot say for sure, but I suspect that they are contractually obligated to mention Alessia and include some of her vocals, so we hear Alessia's vocal parts on a backing track. They do use some backing tracks, but I do not mind, as their audio engineer on their latest album mentioned in a making of documentary, that everything on the album was played by them, no session musicians or backup singers were used. Also I have spoken to fans that were at shows where the laptop crashed and they played the rest of the show without click or backing tracks with no issues, they were just missing some rhythm guitar parts and sound effects. As long as a band can stil perform without the laptop, I do not mind, because this means that they do not rely on it and it is only used to add small touches.
Good info- thanks!!
Contractually or otherwise, I cannot imagine that they would not give Alessia credit this way; it's just part of their nature. They used a small string ensemble to support Black Holes and this song at their Monterrey and Mexico City shows last month, and had them positioned quite prominently on stage (violins and violas on the steps to the drum riser, cellos on the floor facing the audience quite far forward), and as they were leaving the stage, Dany called them back to introduce and thank them.
The white explorer was given to Dany by Lzzy Hale in the middle of her performance when the warning opened for Lzzy. Dany freaked out! She thought it was just a loaner was told it was hers to keep.
In this song there's Alessia Cara on backing but all their backing tracks are made by them and pilot on the laptop by pau
Pau does have *two Hi-Hats* (one on each side) with her kit. Maybe she's playing a hi hat with her foot pedal. Or the hi hat is on their backing track on the Ableton laptop to her right. She also controls her laptop with pedals (one pedal for on & another pedal on the opposite side to stop & change to the next track))
probably backing track handled by pau, they do use backing tracks but they also bring the real deal, also there is a high hat tucked in right above the toms
She has a 14” closed high hat on her right side, could’ve been what you’re hearing.
I’d be surprised if she can’t find time to use it instead of a stem. Does far more complicated patterns without a track tbh.
I honestly don't hear that backing track, maybe because of my headphones. In the song Disciple she does a nice job with the Hit-Hat during the regular parts of the song that no one ever cares to mention; what Im saying is that she could easily do live those parts you hear in the track that for some reasons she doesn't if its the case.
I heard that percussion part on the studio release video with Alessia Cara. Which they use her backing vocals live for this song they always introduce the song as Metallica’s Enter Sandman with Alessia Cara. Perhaps the percussion is mixed with Alessias vocals. They do use backing tracks sometimes 99.9 % are recorded and played by The Warning and never overpower a song with them. Such a great band. 🤘⚡️🤘
yep! most all backing tracks are done by DPA themselves... Alessia's are recorded for the live sessions when she isn't there plus she was also in Canada when the recording was done... then there are some effects or talking that are recorded for consistency (eg: Rudy's speech in QOTMS, sirens and similar in Copper Bullets, etc) but yeah, DPA either do them themselves or they create them themselves...
It's a reasonable form of introduction, since it was Cara who got the original invitation from Metallica. As I gather, it was a label management person who initially suggested she pair with _The Warning_ , because she is not a "hard rock" artist and wasn't entirely sure how to proceed with the project. In the end, it was a perfect matching really, and a stand-out production for the Black List album... so much so it was the first track on the official recording!
@@MrJest2 i agree with everything you wrote except the last statement...
the tracks on the Blacklist album are in the same order as they are on the Black album... because there are multiples of each track, Metallica decided to list them in order of the submitting groups/artists' names... if, for example, a country singer named Aaron had submitted a country rendition of Enter Sandman, then it would have been listed first...
personally i think that Metallica were looking for renditions of the Black album tracks in other genres... like a country rendition of Enter Sandman, a R&B rendition of Holier Than Thou, a soul rendition of Don't Tread On Me, and similar...
i can easily imagine each of the tracks in multiple genres like that... unfortunately the assignment was apparently not understood by many...
The guitar that Dany is playing was gifted to her during The Warning's set, by Lzzy Hale. She told Dany to "Play it hard and play it loud."
The backing tracks are just to fill out the song as they are only a 3 piece band and most bands nowadays use backing tracks. I do not get the fixation on it. They do record all their backing tracks and just add it to fill out the song. They never use vocals on backing tracks except for this song as Alessia Cara collaborated with them on this and it is her backing track doing the "whoa whoa whoa". Other than that, this was a great rendition of Enter Sandman.
Pau has 2 more arms made up of Dark Matter, so we can't see them, but they play all the hidden sounds.
That explains a lot- thank you!
As others have said, yes they use backing tracks, to enhance the sound for the audience, however, they have had computer crashes during concerts.....and no one knew about it.
Good reaction, and appreciate your ear and acumen.
You're gonna luv these ladies.👊⚡️🤘
They have done at least 5 versions of ETS now. Last month they did 3 shows with a string symphony section on stage backing this and a couple of other songs. They use minimal backing tracks. In the last few years their computer has failed 5 or 6 times and only the biggest fans notice the backing tracks are missing. You spend way to much time talking about backing tracks
The main changes are playing it in half time.And turning it around backwards basicly. The first line "take my hand" is the last line of the original. The Main riff that starts Metalicas version was used as a outro here. The main solo in the middle of the original was replaced with the triple reprisal that happens after the prayer . Add in the harmonies on the vocals . what they ended up with a slower and spookier version. Hey Metallica heres you song back. We fixed it. Thanks The Warning
Uh, yeah, they have a backing track. Alessia Cara isn’t there and you can still hear her vocals.
Not only a re- imagination of this song but composed and performed from a females perspective perhaps ! Looking forward to you going through the Queen of the murder scene album from Lunario.
The Warning have reduced the role of the backing track on this chart, which used to bring much more of Alessia Cara's voice into the mix but still brings most of her oohs. I had to boost the treble a bit to bring out the added cymbal effect more clearly. It's subtle, but no doubt it's coming from the backing track. As you say, nothing wrong with that. They aren't pretending to play anything they really aren't and have been pretty open about how they make a 3-piece sound as big as they do.
The backing track was supplied by the producer who i believe was David bendeth, correct me please if I’m wrong, either done to fit into Alessia’s genre more or possibly at her suggestion as a musician and coarranger herself. It was never hidden and was discussed at some point in a documentary or interview about this song , if i recall.
It sounds very 808 to me but it’s been years since i used those devices lol so I’m possibly way off.
Definitely was done for the partnership between the two artists, since the warning have never used an 808 or similar drum machine that I’m aware of.
Matt Squire produced this, but David Bendeth mixed it.
This is The Warning's song now. I don't think I could listen to the original version anymore after hearing this version.
Definitely some added backtracks. Including Alessia Cara in the choral parts and the Wo-ahs. They always credit her as a collaborator when performing this song
Pau has a laptop up by her drums, they don’t hide it, she triggers and controls all the backing tracks, they play all the main portions of their music live. There’s no lip syncing here and that’s what matters to me. One of the best rock bands ever, RUSH, used backing tracks occasionally, so whatever…
I have no issue with them using backing tracks! Killer band.
They have subsequently performed this version with live orchestral strings performing with them. I like it best of all.
Excellent reaction, analysis, opinion and commentary...
Very interesting.
Thank you for continuing with our favorite band and greetings from México!! 🇲🇽
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They use various backing tracks throughout their concerts. Nothing quite so elaborate as a group like Nightwish or Muse and the like, but they fill in the 3-piece sound in part through that (also through tech tricks to make the instruments bigger and fuller in performance). Pau runs things as far as I understand. At least up through 2020 (see this video) and you can see in recent concerts she has the laptop next to her. I don't know if they will switch to a full-on tech crew at some point if they start getting really big and want Muse-level extravaganzas, but they are very tech-savvy and want to put on a powerful show (funds limiting, of course, at present - confetti!). As many have noted, this tune has the Alessia Cara backing tracks to make the live performances echo somewhat the studio version on the Metallica tribute album (although I think their live versions of ES are a good bit better than the studio version).
A "Pau Cam" video is a camera set behind her, can be fun to watch. You can sometimes see the laptop with Ableton running, and/or the midi pedal used to trigger the Ableton. It's on her left, although some videos are reversed in post (I dunno why), making it appear to be on the right.
Ryan Roxie, lead guitar for Alice Cooper, interviewed them last year, and they discussed backing tracks at some length (somewhere around the 35 minute mark in ruclips.net/video/7pSAnFYBY_k/видео.html). Pau did most of the discussion from their end; her take is basically that the backing tracks should not be the song, but it's fine to use them to add elements that cannot be reproduced on stage, and as others have noted they record their own tracks. There are a handful of exceptions (e. g. the male voice during the Dust to Dust breadown, which obviously they cannot personally do, but their manager, Rudy Joffroy, provided it).
As an example, Survive originally opened with Ale playing piano accompanying Pau's vocals, and there has always been a tracked piano part during the extended outro. However, when they started touring more extensively, they reworked the opening to use light guitar and bass parts rather than using a piano track. It does significantly change the character of the opening (not for the better IMO, but not enough to displace it from the #1 spot on my list), but in that situation they apparently preferred to use a different opening rather than track a core part of the song. If the track failed in the outro, it would definitely be noticeable, but would not materially change the song. As others have noted, they have had breakdowns of their click and backing tracks on stage, which often pass unnoticed. However, if they have issues with their instruments, or forget lyrics, those are more noticeable (although in the latter case Pau can jump in so quickly that unless one knows who's supposed to be singing it's not entirely apparent). At one concert, something was wrong with her guitar setup, and that light opening wound up being very heavy. Dany jumped up, ran over to her pedalboard, but couldn't fix it, so she stopped and let Ale handle the rest of the opening.
Somewhere there is a video where Pau goes over all of her controls. She controls the click/backing track from pedals. Dany does a gear rundown where she talks about her guitars and pedal board.
That Explorer was given to her by Lizzy Hale of Halestorm. A pay it forward moment.
Lzzy Hale gave Dany the Explorer when The Warning and Halestorm toured together.
The percussion is an animated David Bendeth banging his head on the soundboard during recordings ☺☺☺.
They do use backing tracks, usually a second guitar and sometimes a keyboard and rarely something else.
But the arrangements are so, that if everything technological goes to hell, they still get a great song.
Great reaction. I saw The Warning open for The Pretty Reckless immediately prior to this show. Remember thinking its was not a good idea to do this Metallica cover. Then half way thru thinking it was one of the greatest performances of a song I’ve ever heard. Midway in Paulina completely steals the show! You can’t take your eyes off of her! They made me a huge fan of all three ladies…..but c’mon. Paulina is generationally special. Whomever recorded this did a good job, except the last half is mostly Pau, but this recording doesn’t seem like it. It’s great in the recording but it’s INCREDIBLE live. Pau is doing it with her foot, but I don’t recall what the machine is called, Daniella has a similar thing she uses her foot on as well. They showed in a post about several of their songs. At about 1 minute in the crowd was stunned in kind of a “WTF are we witnessing”?!?
This was originally a collaboration with Alessia Cara from Canada, and they are including some of her vocal backing here. Some of the studio effects are included as well. Pau runs Ableton Live on her laptop. It controls all that, and triggers another computer to run the light show programming in sync with the click track. Dany's pedalboard has all sorts of reverb, delay, and stereo effects capability programmed by their producer of ERROR, David Bendeth. Ale's pedalboard has similar effects. They use harmonizers and splitters and delays for stereo effects and "that wall of sound." This concert was quite obviously recorded in multitrack for later mix down. We are not hearing a simple "house PA" feed, but a "recorded live, mixed in post" polished recording. We get the best of both worlds: live visuals, and a clean mix. The songs from the MTV VMAs were recorded and mixed in a similar fashion. More and Evolve were each done in a single take there. Watch their back story video of the VMAs. It's amazing what the MTV people said about them (all positive!).
A quick comment on your point about “tracks”. I do appreciate there as some reaction channels that get into dissecting a performance from the perspective of HOW the sound is produced including musically and technically. That said most people with an ardent interest in the sound engineering have probably already watched the mass of Warning videos about their gear and how they produce their sound. I think if the HOW gets belaboured it takes away from both the reaction and the performance.
What needs to be remembered is that what everyone is watching is simply entertainment, and that includes both the performance and the reaction. I would suggest that most people in any audience don’t really care HOW a sound is produced (including a glottal plosive or a center tom) they just know what they like to hear and they watch reaction channels to hear the responses of like minded people. I think you summed up your opinion of the song and the performance succinctly, but lost value in over focusing on a fragment of sound.
You made a point and said you “don’t know” but, for some reason, it was hard for you to let it go at that. You have much to offer ib tiur comments but I would suggest in the words we have all heard over the years...“Don't sweat the small stuff”.
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I agree. I stopped listening to the reaction when he started obsessing over some subtle background notes.
I'm going to offer a different opinion -- I like this kind of dissection, as it's something I can learn from, even if I don't have any direct use for it. There are a lot of different reaction/review styles, plenty for everyone.
Thank you- that’s one of the things I do as a reactor who is also a musician; offering my insights into the details of the music. I do not “obsess” as someone said, I am simply interested in figuring out how musicians do what they do.
Yes, I appreciate learning anything from any reactor, especially something I didn't catch the first half-dozen times I listened. Backing tracks are not "live", but it doesn't bother me at all when they're subtle or really needed, especially in this three-piece band, and I thought this backing track was actually a cool add. (And come on, a The Warning fan getting nitpicky mad at minor criticisms is kinda like a double-negative there, init?) @@robertkrawitz8237
Pau sets up the MIDI for nearly every song. She does have 2 foot switches. Look for her "gear masters". Dany has a run down as well.
I'm a drummer, so I've watched a lot of Pau videos. If you want to be sure you're hearing what she's playing without tracks mixed in, you can watch the Pau Cams that she sets up with her phone. You get the raw audio.
Her foot work is incredible, but I digress. Anyway, the Pau Cam in Ufest, AZ, has Enter Sandman at 25:30.
There are gear rundowns on YT for each of them where they talk about the technical stuff.
In this song they have the Oaoaoooh's on backing track, but what you heard the moment you asked was Pau doing the high harmonies and Ale the lows.
Good ear. I know Paulina controls the tracks but good for pointing that out. Nothing against them for using tracks they still played the track. These women slay
I really like this arrangement. It's very unique and they made it their own. And it's well worth waiting for the big payoff in the outro!
I know that they play to a click track and Pau controls everything on a laptop using pedals. So it's quite possible they have some backing tracks included.
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Captaste esos sonidos !!!.
she has a laptop on her set if you ever watch her drum sound checks and ive herd she does control the backtracks like effects and other stuff and the guitar danny is playing was gifting by lizzy hail and there is nothing wrong with back tracking you throw so many duel vocals or guitar riffs that you sometimes have to just to keep that sound quality that was recorded on album
There's a recent video by the channel "Digital Tour Bus" that has Dany run through her setup for this tour. She talks about what she does to fill out her sound. Might be worth talking a look at if you are curious about how they craft their live sound.
Awesome, thanks!!
This whole concert is so good. I think it has all of the songs from their Error album, a handful from QOTMS (Dust to Dust, Ugh, and Queen of the Murder Scene title track) and maybe one (or 2?) from XXI Cenury Blood. I think you should watch the Live at the Dakota to see their older songs. The Lunario concert is amazing for the full QOTMS setlist. The Covid era De(tour) from their basement is fab as well as the Live Sessions. There are also some awesome live recordings from the Whiskey A Go Go that are cool to see. You can pretty much get a good live version of their entire body of work to date.
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Fairly certain that extra percussion is Dany's guitar split into different guitar patches. There's a trebley distorted layer that sounds like percussion, then there's the warmer sound with less effects which is the main. She uses up to three separated guitar patches at a time. The "whoaohh" back ground is piped in but Pau and Ale are singing the lyrical stuff. In the 80s I saw The Police's Synchronicity tour (they used backing tracks extensively) and Rush's Hold Your Fire tour also used backing tracks. I think this is a common practice for a lot of three piece bands.
Yes, I'm sure it is a backing track, which does not detract from their abilities as a killer band! It's just another tool.
Yes they use some backing tracks!
You should check out their music video for this song. The studio version is a collaboration with Canadian pop sing Alessia Cara.
Another reactor mentioned something similar about her hi-hat sound not realizing that she has 2 hi-hats in her drum set
The thing is that you can see she is not playing the hi-hat during the parts I am referring to- definitely a backing track
Yes I realize that I was just saying that some people have said they have heard a different hi hat sound but they miss the fact that she has 2 hi hats
Pau has another pair of 14" hats (always closed, i think) to her *right* (placed lower - just inches above the floor toms). That might be the extra percussion that you're hearing. Or hmmm 🤔 Pau does also have Ableton Live running on a laptop for prerecorded stem tracks & click tracks, launching the visual projections, and running Dany's pedalboard. (As if singing while drumming isn't multitasking enough, lol.) Here's a 9-minute vlog from 2020 of Pau giving a tour/rundown of her equipment, including her computer, drum set, InEarz, and headset microphone. → ruclips.net/video/sdJqYrzsfWg/видео.html ... I've watched this many times (lol, I'm a big Pau fan), and I actually *have* wondered when/why/how she uses those extra hats. You've spotted a good example of her using them, which I wouldn't have spotted myself, thanks. Now seeing this, it looks like a very handy place for them.
Also, here are the Equipment Rundown vlogs by:
Ale (3½ min): ruclips.net/video/ADk8jEMr0iY/видео.html
Dany (8 min): ruclips.net/video/oV9BfTfeqHc/видео.html
And for some details on Dany's pedalboard, here's a 54-minute vlog where Dany goes through the settings in detail -- repeating everything in English and Spanish for her fans (which is awesome that she's taking the time to do that). → ruclips.net/video/qdzZHL32_IY/видео.html ... Pau is holding the camera, and there are some fun interactions between sisters. ... You can see this pedalboard way back in the 2014 Enter Sandman cover video, and once again we are so thankful to the girls' parents for being so supportive.
This was awesome. I'm also a fan of the MV with Alessia Cara. You seem to be enjoying the harder stuff. Money and Disciple are good too. I have to mention Band-MAiD again for harder rock. Check them out soon.
They use Ableton Live, triggered by Pau from the laptop next to her kit. The additional high hat sound you speak of, plus some vocals from Alessia Cara - who appeared on the studio release with them, and obviously won't be there touring just for one track!
Watch for VOB version ( live in france.....)
There's tasty little backing additions and always a click track used on some songs but nothing critical to the success of the song.
And of course the computer crashes sometimes. 99.9% of the audience wouldn't hear the difference.
Watch some of the Pau cams and you can see her running the show with her left foot. Her right foot has a pedal that kills the tracks if they get in trouble.
They all say when things go south with the click, that Ale keeps them together.
Nice review.
DPA rock....
Since this was a collab between The Warning and Alessia Cara, the studio arrangement has a pop feel, specially at the start, to better suit her style I guess, and there is some electro beat on top of the drums with that hi hat lick. It goes off again at the lullaby section, and for the live version they put that beat in the track they've always used, that which other comments explained in better detail I could.
But the live sounds heavier and mostly contains that lick and Alessia's vocals. Seems to be the case with most of their lives, for instance More sounds much harder live than the video you checked.
By the way, I don't want to be that guy but you should keep an eye out for that feline rascal at the back. Might be sneakier than you suspect!
The Warning uses backing tracks very tastefully, but I don't think Pau is doing that here. There are several technique of playing the Hi-Hat with your foot that can get the sound your describing. One is called foot chick another splash with foot and you can combine them.
I watched very carefully, and the hats are not opening and closing with a pedal nor is she hitting them. It's definitely a backing track, confirmed by many comments here. They are using cool technology to give a better show, that's all!
Un cover original de The Warning, ENTER SANDMAN, el mejor tema del black list ,un tema que puede ser incluso mejor que el original,excelente interpretación ,buenos coros, TW son maestras de la composición
I saw pau's rig rundown and she has a second hi-hat to her right that is fixed to a fixed position. They do use backing tracks but in this case i think she is using her right hand to produce that beat.
I don't believe they run any backing vocals, they do play to a click which Pau controls. There's an excellent episode of Gear Masters where Dany goes through her rig. She gives a detailed explanation on how she gets her big, full sound, with her Kemper Profiler. Using the harmonizer on the Kemper in a lower octave is one of the things she does. It's esp 471.
Why do you think that Pau has that laptop standing besides her? All the extras Pau let that play with the klicktrack, extra keyboard and so on if needed. But they do it them selves, not the sound guy.
Perhaps a dwarf percussionist in the orchestra pit.
Pau has a laptop running Ableton backing track software ;)