@bigberg3k A decent pitch shifter VST plugin in Maschine used alongside the sample tuning can have more or less the same effect as timestretching. Though quality of the results may vary. What most strikes me as a big plus for the MPC studio controller is portability. Even the Maschine Mikro controller is unnecessarily thick, with unnecessarily large buttons. And the big plus for Renaissance is built-in audio interface.
Choke all playing sampler voices feature ("panic button": Shift + Mute) Sample play position indicator on the waveform (hardware and software) AutoWrite pinning feature Various bug fixes
Am an MPD 32 user was considering migrating to the Maschine Mikro but will hold off right now. Thanx for the vid would have loved to see the whole setup in action though.
Yeah, for the price the Ren should have been able to go 100% stabdalone. The thing about hardware is that it is always more solid and longer lasting if you know how to take care of it (at least with my experience with good stuff 60s, 3000s, and 2000XLs still work great) but while Maschine still has hiccups and software quirks, the integration is really nice. The Studio seems awesome though, if it shapes up well I may pick it up.
If the Maschine's next upgrade has timestretch, it will match the Akai cos it can do practically the same thing, plus the Maschine can map its hardware control knobs to native instruments or external plug-ins, a function that's very useful for production flow and live. I've used MPCs in the past and now Maschine. Akai's talking about the new product keeping the MPC workflow, etc, but to me, the workflow is not going to make a difference once you learn either one. Each has its pros and cons
@bigberg3k Way I see it, different tools for different users/uses. I can do a lot with Maschine, hell, I can do a lot with Jeskola Buzz (it just takes more time, but I can get a lot more surgical with the mix and automation), it's all about getting to know the tricks and working around the limitations, as I'm sure it is been with MPC's as well (and though it seems the new MPC software will do away with a bunch of limitations, it's at the expense of the standalone aspect).
@bigberg3k I have a Beat Thang. I also have a PreSonus FireStudio Mobile interface for my laptop. Both can be set to buffer size 256, which is virtually no latency, but PC with decent interface can take a lot more without glitching out than Beat Thang can. I keep my Beat Thang set to 512 for stability, which is low enough latency, but due to its other limitations it's mostly good for quick ideas. It's stand-alone and portable, which is a major selling point, but Maschine can do a whole lot more.
The update will include the following features and improvements: Offline time stretching and pitch shifting feature Transient Master Tape and Tube Saturators Save group with samples feature Improved handling of missing samples Revised select page (hardware) with access to note length Quick select events of a sound in a pattern (Shift + Select + Pad) Quick erase events of a sound in a pattern (Erase + Select + Pad) Pre-hear samples from the hardware browser before loading them And....
The layering seems fantastic, and from what I have heard the build quality is rock solid. I hope the feature set is there in the beginning, and it is efficient and relatively bug-free for real track making. I like the Maschine but feature-wise it is still missing a few things here and there that are pretty big.
So you gotta buy the Studio... Plus the audio interface to make up for lag... Plus your own computer... Plus your own DAW. Kinda wish they'd make stand alone setups...
@UniqueBeast216 Some good points there, yes. As for locking to pro tools, do you by that mean running it as a plugin or some specific aspect of running it as a plugin? 'Cause it's been stated it'll run as a plugin, which I assume means it'll lock to the tempo and all that. I have limited experience with Pro Tools, though, it's not my DAW of choice, so I can't speak for its reliability.
@UniqueBeast216 I've never been an Akai nor ProTools user, so I'm really not the person to ask about compatibility (though Google tells me you're not alone with the MPD/ProTools problem, so I'd imagine Akai might be aware at this point). I currently work in such wibbly-wobbly ways that I do most of my instrumental work in Maschine or Buzz and then do vocals/mixing and mastering in Studio One Artist and/or Adobe Audition. Should probably upgrade Studio One to the full version at some point.
@bigberg3k I've heard very little of AraabMuzik, but what I've heard was not bad. He's certainly a skilled finger drummer. Haven't heard him get too creative with his samples though. But that might just be me not having heard his best examples of creative sampling.
It's not a MPD. A MPD is only a midi controller, you only control sounds from your DAW. This mpc studio has integrated sounds and can be used in your DAW (fl studio,protools,reason etc...) as a vst.
@bigberg3k In general, no, but I think that has less to do with hardware vs software and more to do with musical trends and stricter views on sampling. Though I wouldn't necessarily deny that some people who get their hands on something that's easy to use end up not bothering to experiment with it. But that's a flaw in people, not technology. Maschine is easy to use, and you can easily make garbage with it, but you can do insane stuff with it if you think outside the box, as with many things.
True, the term "dinosaur producers" itself is ridiculous. Music is about inspiration, creativity, doing things you like... Technological revolutions are helpful tools, but nothing more. People who think it's about the tools, didn't get it. What's really strange though, when it's about MPC's, computers, sequencers,... people nag about features and technology. But when it comes to guitars, everybody thinks valve-amps are the best and no one complains why a guitar doesn't have 9 strings by now :)
@bigberg3k I was never a fan of Dr. Dre, and Timbaland can be described many ways (detail freak, for one thing), but I'm not sure I'd call him hard hitting. A lot of people I look up to have used MPC's, though, and I'm not knocking it. Hell, I could name a couple great producers who still only use Roland/Boss SP samplers, and those are quite limiting to work with. Just saying a big part of it is in how you use it. MPC's aren't automatic quality generators, neither is anything else.
It still won't have the 'clock' of a hardware unit. I have an Axiom25 with eight pads on it running Guru and Geist. Nothing that can be done on this that I can't do with my modest setup. I love akai stuff though. I have a bit. Next up I'm gonna grab an apc20 with ableton - the akai version of ableton is the the best 'crippled' program they do. I wish I had the money for a REAL mpc 60, 1000, you know. Solid hardware clock with that 'funky' akai timing. There is a template for it in GEIST.
@QuiteFranklyTNE I agree Brah... Stickin with my 1000 ... but ima get this to go with my laptop when i'm traveling so I can leave my 1000 at home... She means to much to me...
So what can the Renaissance do that this one can't? Because as far as I understand it, this one is just a slimline version with a few less knobs but still does the functions the same? So my question is how on Earth do Akai justify charging almost DOUBLE the price for the renaissance at £730??? I don't get it, seriously....
@505BANKMONEY some people simply work better with or understand the hardware approach like an MPC as opposed to using a mouse for making music. People just use what they are comfortable with, what they can use the best. There are advantaged & disadvantages of both. The point of the Ren is Akai wants to bridge both together. I think they will be successful, but it is a bit expensive.
@bigberg3k Well, for one, I'm pretty sure MadLib uses an SP. MF Doom as well, I think. RZA has used all kinds of stuff, including Roland MV 8800. All do great, dirty stuff. As for Timbaland, I don't dislike him, per se, he's good at what he does, I just wouldn't characterize him as "hard hitting", his stuff tends to be more about rhythm than punch, and probably wouldn't sound that much different being made with software. Oh, and DJ Nu-Mark has jumped unharmed from MPC to Maschine.
@bigberg3k Bangs harder? Ever heard of mixing and mastering? EQ? Bit crushers? Compressors? Maximizers? Transient shapers? Creating better sounds? There's plenty of things one can do to make beats "bang harder" other than buying an MPC5000. Mind you, I'm not knocking the MPC, just saying there's no need to have a one-track mind and dismiss the alternatives just because they don't have MPC written on them. It's all about how you use it.
Unfortunately,Akai is pretty much the king company of Vaporware...introducing great looking new products and not shipping them....ie the Synthstation49....." released" at 2011 NAMM show...still not shipping....It would be nice if they would ship.
Which is BS, it's 499 Street Price (599 rrp). The Studio is nice, a good alternative to the Maschine if you like its style better. But the renaissance... I think it's a missed opportunity. It became an expensive controller, while it should have been a standalone unit with the ability to integrate/connect with it's computer-software to easily integrate with DAWs as well. Now it's standalone OR integrated, while it should have been 'AND'. People would have paid for the extra. Look at the Virus TI.
The hardware is awesome ! The software needs more work! I have the MPC Studio with 1.4 version (Logic Pro X).... Akai you are so close perfecting the software but please hurry up cause i need to work without crashing... Thanks
All these new MPCs are very nice and all that until Akai decide to stop driver development in about 3 years and you are left with a useless box. I think I'l stick to my MPC2500 thanks..
@spector969 because akai doesnt know how to market their products to consumers..anothe reason why all 3 of their new products will fail...because of pricing smh..
To be honest I don't like these new MPC's at all.. Trying to make that "Retro Replication" sound buttons on the Renaissance.. But now, you have to use the computer with it? Weak in my opinion.. the MPC3000 has been perfectly fine all of these years. I'm sticking with my old MPC's. But, that's just my opinion. To each is own, right?
This unit can be used as a stand alone MPC also. It is not just a midi controller. The sounds are built in.
Could anyone recommend me something like this but something that works without using a computer ?
@RichieMillions Thanks i found korg microsampler as a interesting thing to have :)
I Most Definitely want to cop this ... WORD!! - Emcee Suspense
@bigberg3k A decent pitch shifter VST plugin in Maschine used alongside the sample tuning can have more or less the same effect as timestretching. Though quality of the results may vary. What most strikes me as a big plus for the MPC studio controller is portability. Even the Maschine Mikro controller is unnecessarily thick, with unnecessarily large buttons. And the big plus for Renaissance is built-in audio interface.
Choke all playing sampler voices feature ("panic button": Shift + Mute)
Sample play position indicator on the waveform (hardware and software)
AutoWrite pinning feature
Various bug fixes
@MixWorkRecordings It's just like machine, it's a VST/AU/RTAS plugin that runs within your DAW.
it was always akai's game first, there just now taking it back.....rightfully so too
Am an MPD 32 user was considering migrating to the Maschine Mikro but will hold off right now. Thanx for the vid would have loved to see the whole setup in action though.
Yeah, for the price the Ren should have been able to go 100% stabdalone. The thing about hardware is that it is always more solid and longer lasting if you know how to take care of it (at least with my experience with good stuff 60s, 3000s, and 2000XLs still work great) but while Maschine still has hiccups and software quirks, the integration is really nice. The Studio seems awesome though, if it shapes up well I may pick it up.
Thank U so much...gona check em out...they look fantastic...let's see if they work well too...
If the Maschine's next upgrade has timestretch, it will match the Akai cos it can do practically the same thing, plus the Maschine can map its hardware control knobs to native instruments or external plug-ins, a function that's very useful for production flow and live.
I've used MPCs in the past and now Maschine. Akai's talking about the new product keeping the MPC workflow, etc, but to me, the workflow is not going to make a difference once you learn either one. Each has its pros and cons
@bigberg3k Way I see it, different tools for different users/uses. I can do a lot with Maschine, hell, I can do a lot with Jeskola Buzz (it just takes more time, but I can get a lot more surgical with the mix and automation), it's all about getting to know the tricks and working around the limitations, as I'm sure it is been with MPC's as well (and though it seems the new MPC software will do away with a bunch of limitations, it's at the expense of the standalone aspect).
@bigberg3k I have a Beat Thang. I also have a PreSonus FireStudio Mobile interface for my laptop. Both can be set to buffer size 256, which is virtually no latency, but PC with decent interface can take a lot more without glitching out than Beat Thang can. I keep my Beat Thang set to 512 for stability, which is low enough latency, but due to its other limitations it's mostly good for quick ideas. It's stand-alone and portable, which is a major selling point, but Maschine can do a whole lot more.
Obviously this is a typo. They really meant that this is the MPD Studio, not MPC
The update will include the following features and improvements:
Offline time stretching and pitch shifting feature
Transient Master
Tape and Tube Saturators
Save group with samples feature
Improved handling of missing samples
Revised select page (hardware) with access to note length
Quick select events of a sound in a pattern (Shift + Select + Pad)
Quick erase events of a sound in a pattern (Erase + Select + Pad)
Pre-hear samples from the hardware browser before loading them
And....
The layering seems fantastic, and from what I have heard the build quality is rock solid. I hope the feature set is there in the beginning, and it is efficient and relatively bug-free for real track making. I like the Maschine but feature-wise it is still missing a few things here and there that are pretty big.
So you gotta buy the Studio... Plus the audio interface to make up for lag... Plus your own computer... Plus your own DAW. Kinda wish they'd make stand alone setups...
@UniqueBeast216 Some good points there, yes. As for locking to pro tools, do you by that mean running it as a plugin or some specific aspect of running it as a plugin? 'Cause it's been stated it'll run as a plugin, which I assume means it'll lock to the tempo and all that. I have limited experience with Pro Tools, though, it's not my DAW of choice, so I can't speak for its reliability.
@UniqueBeast216 I've never been an Akai nor ProTools user, so I'm really not the person to ask about compatibility (though Google tells me you're not alone with the MPD/ProTools problem, so I'd imagine Akai might be aware at this point). I currently work in such wibbly-wobbly ways that I do most of my instrumental work in Maschine or Buzz and then do vocals/mixing and mastering in Studio One Artist and/or Adobe Audition. Should probably upgrade Studio One to the full version at some point.
@bigberg3k I've heard very little of AraabMuzik, but what I've heard was not bad. He's certainly a skilled finger drummer. Haven't heard him get too creative with his samples though. But that might just be me not having heard his best examples of creative sampling.
@MrDeemsMusic he did say 399 around 5:40, I'd be surprised if the Studio cost more 400 am assuming coz this is in America he is quoting in $.
@timbak4 I think the question was "Whats the U.K retail price". I'm not sure what that is in dollars. Slightly more expensive for sure. Anybody know?
It's not a MPD. A MPD is only a midi controller, you only control sounds from your DAW. This mpc studio has integrated sounds and can be used in your DAW (fl studio,protools,reason etc...) as a vst.
@bigberg3k In general, no, but I think that has less to do with hardware vs software and more to do with musical trends and stricter views on sampling. Though I wouldn't necessarily deny that some people who get their hands on something that's easy to use end up not bothering to experiment with it. But that's a flaw in people, not technology. Maschine is easy to use, and you can easily make garbage with it, but you can do insane stuff with it if you think outside the box, as with many things.
Cool! Thanks for sharing that info
mpc studio lookin fresh !
True, the term "dinosaur producers" itself is ridiculous. Music is about inspiration, creativity, doing things you like... Technological revolutions are helpful tools, but nothing more. People who think it's about the tools, didn't get it.
What's really strange though, when it's about MPC's, computers, sequencers,... people nag about features and technology. But when it comes to guitars, everybody thinks valve-amps are the best and no one complains why a guitar doesn't have 9 strings by now :)
@HaatoSK MPC 1000 with JJOS! Still totally amazing for beat making....
I can't get my Oxygen 25 to be used as a midi controller for my MPC Studio so I can play keys. I need help.
DJ Shadow recorded his debut album "Endtroducing" with an Akai MCP
$399 another guy said $599 wish they could reveal the real price. What ever tho this summer is gonna be fantastic
Hey, do you know if this well be DAW like as far as audio recording/editing, or just production like NI Maschine???
with the sequencer can you send midi signal to external synth? (motif xs)
Sorry..what is the audio interface they r using?looks fab..any info please..
@bigberg3k I was never a fan of Dr. Dre, and Timbaland can be described many ways (detail freak, for one thing), but I'm not sure I'd call him hard hitting. A lot of people I look up to have used MPC's, though, and I'm not knocking it. Hell, I could name a couple great producers who still only use Roland/Boss SP samplers, and those are quite limiting to work with. Just saying a big part of it is in how you use it. MPC's aren't automatic quality generators, neither is anything else.
how can i get one without the fruity lights on the pads?
It still won't have the 'clock' of a hardware unit. I have an Axiom25 with eight pads on it running Guru and Geist. Nothing that can be done on this that I can't do with my modest setup. I love akai stuff though. I have a bit. Next up I'm gonna grab an apc20 with ableton - the akai version of ableton is the the best 'crippled' program they do. I wish I had the money for a REAL mpc 60, 1000, you know. Solid hardware clock with that 'funky' akai timing. There is a template for it in GEIST.
@QuiteFranklyTNE I agree Brah... Stickin with my 1000 ...
but ima get this to go with my laptop when i'm traveling so I can leave my 1000 at home...
She means to much to me...
Soo could someone help me out should i get this or just get the MPK 61?
So what can the Renaissance do that this one can't? Because as far as I understand it, this one is just a slimline version with a few less knobs but still does the functions the same? So my question is how on Earth do Akai justify charging almost DOUBLE the price for the renaissance at £730??? I don't get it, seriously....
@505BANKMONEY some people simply work better with or understand the hardware approach like an MPC as opposed to using a mouse for making music. People just use what they are comfortable with, what they can use the best. There are advantaged & disadvantages of both. The point of the Ren is Akai wants to bridge both together. I think they will be successful, but it is a bit expensive.
can you link up an electric guitar to this?
how do you know? I googled that and I found people saying that 3 years ago
Akai have really got to be kicking themselves. They dropped the ball so badly, they haven't got a chance of getting it back from NI.
@JSprayaEntertainment i agree
@timbak4 he asked uk price on this one i think
the other one is the u.s. price
@bigberg3k Well, for one, I'm pretty sure MadLib uses an SP. MF Doom as well, I think. RZA has used all kinds of stuff, including Roland MV 8800. All do great, dirty stuff. As for Timbaland, I don't dislike him, per se, he's good at what he does, I just wouldn't characterize him as "hard hitting", his stuff tends to be more about rhythm than punch, and probably wouldn't sound that much different being made with software. Oh, and DJ Nu-Mark has jumped unharmed from MPC to Maschine.
is it 399? or 599? , cause they say different prices every video
can u patch phrase on the mpc studio
@bigberg3k Bangs harder? Ever heard of mixing and mastering? EQ? Bit crushers? Compressors? Maximizers? Transient shapers? Creating better sounds? There's plenty of things one can do to make beats "bang harder" other than buying an MPC5000. Mind you, I'm not knocking the MPC, just saying there's no need to have a one-track mind and dismiss the alternatives just because they don't have MPC written on them. It's all about how you use it.
this mpc has no sounds built in. the sounds are in the software not the hardware
Do you know how to hook up mpc studio with numark ttusb and mac pro????
it will have with the next update ;)
$399.00 ??? Where at? bcuz everywhere I look it's $599.00 & up!
what interface are they using
he never said dinosaur producers are a bad thing.. insecurities come out strong sometimes.. to correct him though this is a software based machine..
does this have to be used with software or can u use it like the original mpcs
Unfortunately,Akai is pretty much the king company of Vaporware...introducing great looking new products and not shipping them....ie the Synthstation49....." released" at 2011 NAMM show...still not shipping....It would be nice if they would ship.
can anybody explain to me how to get to the MPC sounds??? i cant find them in my software I'm really new to MPC
PaperChasersClub it’s been six years,so i wonder did you get what you wanted,or not only that but became a god of production among men?
what´s the difference with maschine?
make the screen on the new mpc look better please
come on, bro... it's MPC! it's like numark TTX and Technics 1210mk2... TTX is cool, but 1210 is simply LEGENDARY...just like MPC
THEY NEED TO BRING NAMM TO N.Y.C
I could've sworn the other guy in the other video said $599... WHICH ONE IS IT AKAI???
is it better than the maschine?
the maschine looks better?
Ya it is like the Maschine..... oh, except that it's AKAI, and its 300 dollars less then the Maschine lol. Deff going with this
@RockzTheProducerTV the guy at the end of this video asked European prices, so he told him 399, as in euros.
Yea right ... I use the MPC2000XL and have to say that akai's MPC's were from year to year badder in their quality and sound ...
this message is from NI
maschine ftw!
Which is BS, it's 499 Street Price (599 rrp). The Studio is nice, a good alternative to the Maschine if you like its style better. But the renaissance... I think it's a missed opportunity. It became an expensive controller, while it should have been a standalone unit with the ability to integrate/connect with it's computer-software to easily integrate with DAWs as well. Now it's standalone OR integrated, while it should have been 'AND'. People would have paid for the extra. Look at the Virus TI.
The hardware is awesome !
The software needs more work! I have the MPC Studio with 1.4 version (Logic Pro X)....
Akai you are so close perfecting the software but please hurry up cause i need to work without crashing... Thanks
8gb liBERRY?
@YuupTheGreatness Maschine
whats a daw??
@HaatoSK ...mpc 2000
@Mrfollowill dont think so
Maschine
this looks like a good competitor to the maschine. much better actually. but the price aint...
it DOES NOT have sounds built in, do your research kid, i think your misunderstanding the stand alone part
Lol yes I do! The funny thing is... I probably would've just said thank you if you weren't being sarcastic lol... aight take it easy bro
£399 Vs £265 Maschine Mikro, Akai better do something special with one.
@timbak4 slightly over 500 dollars (just looked it up)
there is a way.
@xIIEPiiCFAiiLx good luck with the moog if you dont know what an mpc does
you can run it with logic? he said
NI Spot before watching this xD
All these new MPCs are very nice and all that until Akai decide to stop driver development in about 3 years and you are left with a useless box.
I think I'l stick to my MPC2500 thanks..
about fuking time
on amazon
@spector969 because akai doesnt know how to market their products to consumers..anothe reason why all 3 of their new products will fail...because of pricing smh..
THUMBS UP IF YOU HAVE A TI-84 PLUS!
I wish they could show more what things do, rather dan talk
@ryanphuber maschine mikro is $350...lol
ROFL! this comment made me lol!
i know your feel bro! :(
To be honest I don't like these new MPC's at all.. Trying to make that "Retro Replication" sound buttons on the Renaissance.. But now, you have to use the computer with it? Weak in my opinion.. the MPC3000 has been perfectly fine all of these years. I'm sticking with my old MPC's. But, that's just my opinion. To each is own, right?
@flux302 i have no need to... i make dusty beats
*MPC 60II