One trick that I heard of that was genius, say you price shop and you get a hotel for $80 a night. No matter how they crunch the numbers they can't make it look like you're getting a deal.
If you say that they’ll say you can’t get rooms like these, which are suites/2 bedrooms. They basically have a script and have a response to everything you say. They didn’t have a response to if you say you want to travel somewhere remote that doesn’t have any of their resorts.
Grandview in Las Vegas was brutal. I’m a local and told the guy during the presentation numerous times that I wasn’t interested. I finally started yelling and caused a scene. The guy insulted me towards the end and I told him flat out, “You’re beginning to piss me off.” He said that he didn’t care. That’s when I exploded and told him that I’m prepared to go to jail today. Then he backed off and gave me my incentive gift,
Excellent comment section and video! Thank you! We like to do hotel staycations and was offered this deal/opportunity. We definitely are better prepared now to take advantage of them versus them taking advantage of us!! 😆
TFS, we are doing a timeshare at HGVC in Las Vegas Strip, we have been to a few as well. Your right as soon as you say NO they do sometimes get offensive & Rude...We already have a timeshare that we use so that helps out alot,, them knowing we can get to anywhere on our own timeshare why would we buy another one!! Sometimes they end our meeting really fast, get our gifts & we be gone!!!!!
I did the Wyndham resort timeshare presentation. Deposit was $40 and still got a $100 gift card and 2 night stay. I told them I wanted to visit Nepal and Antarctica as my top two (which I was being honest). They said the most they could do was set me up with a hotel in Nepal they're contracted with and I could use my points there. Their target customers seem to be upper middle class families/couples that visit typical tourists cities like Orlando, Honolulu, Paris, etc.
Pretty sure they don’t have a HGV in Nepal. These are just sales people and willing to say whatever to get you to sign. They’ll give you excuses later.
Just tell the salesman that there's no way you would make a decision like that without first consulting your attorney (or banker, or financial counselor).
For people that are interested in a timeshare, it is actually cheaper to pay for a nice hotel. No need to pay a lump sum or be forced to pay annually for maintenance. If you want a vacation, just do it yourself. You will save thousands of dollars. There is no benefit to a timeshare that will save you money. None, zero.
Agreed! Well put. You also can’t get out of them easily, and there’s no incentive to take care of the current customers. You may save money short run with timeshares, but you’ll always lose out long term.
Not true. What u focus on grows. Time share can be an amazing investment for your family for years and years to come. If you find a video pro timeshare then it’s amazing, you find a video about how horrible timeshare is , you’ll see it as a horror. Not everyone is really “qualified” also. That’s when it becomes a ball and chain.
@@YournewhomegirlAli I'm sorry you got scammed in buying a timeshare. I'm sorry that you are still in your "that's right, keep telling that to yourself" phase. You will grow out of it.
@@YournewhomegirlAli Ah so you haven't been conned, you are the conman! You will answer for your crimes at the pearly gates, there is no escaping karma, the universal equalizer
I loved everything and never once gave a objection. It moved the presentation quickly to the table. I then said “this looks great!” I need 2 days to think about any major purchases and spend time reviewing the contract at home. When they tried to offer cheaper units, I simply said that I like the original offer, I just needed time to fully understand the contract. They said I could read it there. I declined. They said I could purchase now and cancel within 3 days, I said that didn’t work for me. They said today was the last day. I said is what you ordered worth the money at full cost? They said, yes. I said I don’t mind Boom, nothing else they could do. I was out of there so fast
If there was a deal where you pay a one time fee from 20.000$ to 50.000$ to get in a Hilton club where you get to pay 2.000$, 2.500$ per month for a months stay in any Hilton hotel across the world, and you get free laundry service and free breakfast +wifi that would be a game changer! I would basically buy that Club membership and travel the world staying one month per country in every country where there is a Hilton hotel!!! But the 20.000 to 50.000 must be the level of membership, where 20.000 is normal room and 50.000 is a suite, Fk I would maybe pay 100.000$ for the membership to get the biggest best executive king suite available! That would be awesome. I would reserve the planes and hotels a year in advance to get the best trip possible, 12 countries in a year one month in each lol.
I've been to about 6 timeshares for the past 6 years or so and the sale rep are pushy, but they are not pushy in a sense that they will insult you. When you think about sales, nobody wants to be insulted because if you piss customers off, the sale will not happen, so this never happened to me. Now, they do say "do you not want to save money? which I don't believe is insult, but never had any sales rep mentioned the word "stupid", or 'dumb" in any context. They are pushy in a way where they said "anyone can afford $300 month for a dream vacation" or "what would it take for you to buy timeshare" or something along that line. Now if you stand your ground, then the sale rep will bring a "Closer" who is the person who is even more pushy and get you to buy. The closer would knock the price down, add additional incentives to get you to buy and ask questions like " What is stopping you from your dream vacation" or "we are showing you numbers which proves you are saving money", or something along that line.
I’m glad you haven’t had any insults thrown your way during these meetings. I clearly remember at the Elara Vegas meeting where the salesperson asked “don’t you want to save money? Are you stupid or something?” I explained to him over and over again I fly and stay in Vegas using points and comps but he just didn’t listen and probably just lost his cool.
@@GoodDealTraveler I'm guessing you didn't buy the timeshare. Sales 101. When you insult a customer, the chances of making the sales is pretty much 0%. The sales rep you've spoke with is either fairly new or poorly trained.
Most of the negative reviews I’ve seen with timeshares mostly deal with the high pressure sales pitch. Ironically the only timeshare I’ve come across that doesn’t try to get you into a meeting and coax you into a sale was Disney vacation club. On that one you have to go to them and request a “tour”. Then they give the sales pitch. They also were the only timeshare that I felt was the most honest. Also it was the only time share that wasn’t in perpetuity and has a sunset date. We ultimately purchased club Wyndham, did so direct so we could get vip status. The only Issue I have with the club Wyndham is it’s in perpetuity, or forever unless you do a certified buy back which essentially is you give them back the timeshare for free. Which assuming we use it for the amount of time we anticipate I’m fine with. Why did we want a time share? Due to the size of our family mostly, we are a family of 6 so most of the time we are basically buying 2 rooms or suites. Our Disney vacation last year cost us 4 times as much for the room as our tickets to the parks. Not only that but timeshare rooms typically are much nicer and roomy compared to normal rooms. Finally I’ll say that timeshares aren’t for everyone, and almost always buying direct is never a good deal. The only reason we bought club Wyndham direct is we got a “good” deal since they knew we were doing a direct comparison to Disney vacation club. They basically offered the exact same price on the DVC paperwork we had with us. But most of the time if you want a timeshare it’s best to buy resale. You won’t get all the perks you would buying direct but you’ll save a ton of money. Club Wyndham for example is selling on resale sites for a penny a point and some contracts I seen for free except closing costs. I’ll say that the Hilton timeshare is maybe a bit better then club Wyndham since the trading partner Hilton uses trades directly with Disney into Disney vacation club resorts. Used to be club Wyndham but switched to Hilton as a trade partner. For more useful information about timeshares people should check out timeshare users group or Google tug forum. They will give you the best advice and can give you all the tips for the timeshare sales meetings, where the best deals to buy timeshares are, and how to effectively use your timeshare if you buy one. Most of them will tell you flat out buy resale, unless you want full membership and only then buy the least you need for that level.
How can I get rid of my timeshare? Worldmark/Windham? I’ve had mine for 31 years and witnessed senior citizens being berated after 90 min + presentation. I was trying to leave as well. This was in Vegas.
I really don’t understand how people can have a good conscience attending Timeshare Presentations over and over again just to mooch a gift. People who work there are REAL people who are commission only, licensed real estate agents and this is their JOB that they have to support their families with. If you are just going there to mooch, please stop wasting your time and theirs. Says a lot about you guys!
We’re following their terms and playing by their rules, which says can’t attend if you have attended one in the past year. We fit their financial demographic and sit through their presentation by being attentive listeners. We understand their terms and it’s their job to convince us. We’re just never convinced what they’re offering is worth it. They use aggressive sales tactics meant to trap people into making purchases they don’t fully understand, as well as unfavorable terms buried in their contract agreements. We’re trying to level the playing field for others.
I’m a bit worried. I read everything on HGVC regarding the requirements for their package and presentation and it said nothing about purchasing the package more than once. I received an offer in 2022& purchased it by March 17th 2022. My cohabiting partner and I attended the presentation in the past. We booked this time again because I received the email offer. We’ve spent 800 in upgrades & obviously plan to attend the presentation again. Just worried we will run into issues because this is not our first time. I hope we will be okay and we won’t get charged any fees. I already received my confirmation info so I’m hoping everything goes okay.
My wife and I completed a Hilton timeshare sales meeting in Vegas last week. We did not know about this presentation until the trip was confirmed. We also had no knowledge about Hilton Timeshare or even Timeshare in general. We thought it was a presentation on how great Hilton is and what we need to do was to be a good sport in exchange for the discounted hotel rate. Thus, we went to the meeting totally unprepared. The sales rep did try to push us to accept an offer, which seemed too good to be true. He also gave us a lot of fuzzy math, which did not make much sense. We kept saying "no" nicely but firmly as we had no interest in committing our future trips to Hilton. We prefer a diverse traveling experience, such as Airbnb, RV, and less expensive hotels. Even if we would like to stay at a luxury hotel, there are so many options. It is ridiculous to commit to Hilton. Two hours later, our meeting ended with 15000 hh points and a $100 rebate for my next stay at Hilton. The sales rep did try to make a connection to our Asian Background to build a rapport. Q1: Is it worth it? It all depends on your perception. Q2: Will we do it again? Maybe, if the discount is attractive. Q3: Will we purchase Hilton Timeshare? NO!. Q4: Was the sales meeting pushy? Yes, but not too hard. I can handle much more pressure than this. I have no difficulty saying "no" firmly and nicely for 2 hours. An impulse purchase is not my thing. After the meeting, I found a lot of negative reviews on Hilton Timeshare online. I would stress that Hilton Timeshare is a business. The sales rep can be aggressive. You should stay strong and refuse an offer you do not need or cannot afford. Finally, Hilton Timeshare may be a good fit for those who (a) are loyal to Hilton, (b) strongly prefer nicer rooms at a luxury hotel, (c) have a clear traveling plan at least 8 months in advance, and (d) are financially successful and thereby insensitive to cost - this is the most important one. You can tell that Hilton Timeshare only fits a small population.
I would add that we paid $560 for a 3-night stay in a 1-bedroom suite at Trump hotel. This can be cheaper than usual but still normal. Thus, we didn’t feel that we were taking an advantage of Hilton grand vacation. Thus, the sale pitch was completely out of surprise. Nevertheless, it was a great experience staying at trump hotel. The view out of the window was spectacular.
Thanks for sharing your detailed experience! I agree with your thoughts. Some timeshare meetings were more high pressure than others but the Vegas HGV strip was the least pushy.
My comment got two thumb-ups. Great. Eventually, we left without buying anything. The whole situation was like insulting one's IQ. The sales rep said that the offer was only good for here and now. Why would anyone with a normal mind make a big purchase (more than 25K) without taking enough time to think it over? If someone seriously attempts to make me believe what is apparently not in my interest, it only means that he/she believes that I might be dumb enough to believe it. Thus, I feel insulted by Hilton, and thereby motivated to write a long passage here.
@@joesmith9980 completely agree!! No one would make a large purchase after only a few hours of thought. You’d need to read the fine print and completely understand what you’re getting into without the rush and urgency from a salesman
It’s a $200 voucher to stay at one of Hilton’s properties, but you have to pick. We chose doubletree, but there were other choices like Hilton garden inn, Hampton inn, etc. After staying a doubletree we submitted the receipt and got a Visa gift card for $200 in the mail a few weeks later
TOP TIP: Next time when dealing with the time share pushers - just stand up and yell out "THIS PLACE will be PERFECT as my HIDE OUT! Who here will join me as my GOON ARMY?!? MUUAHH AHH HAAA!" They will let you go immediately. source: my experience
You’ll get an email that says call this number when you’re ready to book. Request Elara when they ask you which property. Elara is the hardest one to reserve so definitely do it early. You get a studio as the base room, and you can upgrade to 1 or 2 bedroom if you like.
Seems like a lot of hassle, especially for first timers. But looks like if I go to one of these presentations, what I'll tell them is: "Say what you wanna say, but I plead the 5th, the right to remain silence. The only thing I'm gonna say to you right now before the silence kicks in is: "I am NOT interested in ANYTHING you're offering."
It was certainly overwhelming the first time I did a meeting. Eventually you learn to grow thicker skin and not take anything personally, they’re trying to do a job and you’re trying to get outta there asap, no matter how!
So you recieved 200$ after spending 200$ and a 200$ certificate...was trying to listen but you didn't make it clear and what you recieved...think I heard a free meal oh and a bunch of fuzzy math!
Haha yea they made it quite confusing. You pay $200 upfront. After the meeting you get refunded $200 onto your credit card. Then they give you a paper certificate for $200 hilton hotels. After your stay at the next hotel you mail that in along with the receipt, 8 weeks later they mail you a visa gift card up to $200.
IMHO you were so afraid about the process so you didn’t understand nothing ….I’m a HGV member since 1998 and has been a great way of travel for me and my family.
I’m glad you’re able to get great value out of it, but most of us aren’t able to travel to a HGV location each year for the rest of our lives and sell their timeshares penny’s to the dollar. Instead of paying 40-50k with 2 hours to think about it, you can find the same thing for a fraction of the cost on eBay and you have time to look thoroughly look over the contract. That is if you feel HGV is for you. Not everyone has bad experiences though and I’m glad you figured out how to take advantage of it!
Don't let these fools tell you anything g 9068😂 they go on vacation 3 days at a time, so frightened by the presentation that they could never even listen. Meanwhile we go to places that cost obscene amounts of money, all on the cost of a couple grand in maintenance each year, which is what any normal family has to pay for a week at a holiday Inn these days, let alone a true resort beachfront in a tropical paradise
To get this offer call Hilton regarding anything about your account. After the call they’ll ask you to listen to their special offer for 500 hilton points. You’ll get transferred to another agent who presents the offers. Don’t bite until the end when you get $200 for 3 nights, $200 returned, and $200 stay on us certificate
Lmao imagine going to timeshare presentations as a way to vacation. Not only can you take away from an oppourtunity from a fellow human trying to feed their family, (selling timeshare doesnt make you a pos when there are tons of people enjoying the heck out of their timeshares) you have to waste a few hours of your day trying to not look like you're not just money tight, which everyone knows you are or you wouldnt be subjecting you and the girl you love to this entire situation. If you need that much help for a few nights in vegas maybe you should go in with at least an open mind, those timeshares are built for regular familes to be able to vacation consistantly. And hilton has a lot of good reviews and hasnt gotten any heat in the media for shady sales practises like wyndham and other brands
The room I’ve gotten at Elara was worth $400 a night, multiplied by 4 nights is $1600. Takes most people around 40 hours to make that much if you average $40/hour after tax. I’m out of the timeshare meeting in 90-120 minutes. I agree there’s plenty of people making great use out of their timeshares, but to do it year after year until you’re dead is a hassle. Their business model makes a lot of money not because most people are getting full value out of it, it’s because most people aren’t getting anywhere close to that.
One trick that I heard of that was genius, say you price shop and you get a hotel for $80 a night. No matter how they crunch the numbers they can't make it look like you're getting a deal.
If you say that they’ll say you can’t get rooms like these, which are suites/2 bedrooms. They basically have a script and have a response to everything you say. They didn’t have a response to if you say you want to travel somewhere remote that doesn’t have any of their resorts.
Grandview in Las Vegas was brutal. I’m a local and told the guy during the presentation numerous times that I wasn’t interested. I finally started yelling and caused a scene. The guy insulted me towards the end and I told him flat out, “You’re beginning to piss me off.” He said that he didn’t care. That’s when I exploded and told him that I’m prepared to go to jail today. Then he backed off and gave me my incentive gift,
This story is precisely the reason why people don’t want to do timeshare meetings. You gotta threaten jail to get out of them!
Excellent comment section and video! Thank you! We like to do hotel staycations and was offered this deal/opportunity. We definitely are better prepared now to take advantage of them versus them taking advantage of us!! 😆
Great info! I’m going in January and this info helped a lot!
TFS, we are doing a timeshare at HGVC in Las Vegas Strip, we have been to a few as well. Your right as soon as you say NO they do sometimes get offensive & Rude...We already have a timeshare that we use so that helps out alot,, them knowing we can get to anywhere on our own timeshare why would we buy another one!! Sometimes they end our meeting really fast, get our gifts & we be gone!!!!!
I did the Wyndham resort timeshare presentation. Deposit was $40 and still got a $100 gift card and 2 night stay. I told them I wanted to visit Nepal and Antarctica as my top two (which I was being honest). They said the most they could do was set me up with a hotel in Nepal they're contracted with and I could use my points there. Their target customers seem to be upper middle class families/couples that visit typical tourists cities like Orlando, Honolulu, Paris, etc.
Pretty sure they don’t have a HGV in Nepal. These are just sales people and willing to say whatever to get you to sign. They’ll give you excuses later.
We own and love it. It works for us.
Just tell the salesman that there's no way you would make a decision like that without first consulting your attorney (or banker, or financial counselor).
That’s great advice!
I went through a similar presentation when I was in LV earlier this month. The interest rates for the deals/points they offer is insane!!
Hopefully you didn’t buy it!
@@GoodDealTraveler Nope, I’m into personal finance so I knew it was a bad deal. I’m planning to film a video on my experience today lol
@Katrice Justice please share your experience video as well, would love to know your experience
@@unmesh12345 Here it is: ruclips.net/video/u-sh7kzpgLM/видео.html
Looking forward to your thoughts! :)
For people that are interested in a timeshare, it is actually cheaper to pay for a nice hotel. No need to pay a lump sum or be forced to pay annually for maintenance. If you want a vacation, just do it yourself. You will save thousands of dollars. There is no benefit to a timeshare that will save you money. None, zero.
Agreed! Well put. You also can’t get out of them easily, and there’s no incentive to take care of the current customers. You may save money short run with timeshares, but you’ll always lose out long term.
Not true. What u focus on grows. Time share can be an amazing investment for your family for years and years to come. If you find a video pro timeshare then it’s amazing, you find a video about how horrible timeshare is , you’ll see it as a horror. Not everyone is really “qualified” also. That’s when it becomes a ball and chain.
@@YournewhomegirlAli I'm sorry you got scammed in buying a timeshare. I'm sorry that you are still in your "that's right, keep telling that to yourself" phase. You will grow out of it.
@@ronage6514 you are kind, I haven’t bought timeshare but I have made people’s vacation dreams come true by selling them
@@YournewhomegirlAli Ah so you haven't been conned, you are the conman! You will answer for your crimes at the pearly gates, there is no escaping karma, the universal equalizer
I loved everything and never once gave a objection. It moved the presentation quickly to the table. I then said “this looks great!” I need 2 days to think about any major purchases and spend time reviewing the contract at home. When they tried to offer cheaper units, I simply said that I like the original offer, I just needed time to fully understand the contract.
They said I could read it there. I declined. They said I could purchase now and cancel within 3 days, I said that didn’t work for me. They said today was the last day. I said is what you ordered worth the money at full cost? They said, yes. I said I don’t mind
Boom, nothing else they could do. I was out of there so fast
Any salesperson who says you need to sign this today without going over the contract carefully on your own is trying to hustle you.
This is genius
Thank you. I will be using this verbiage in the next few weeks on my presentation
Can I pretend to be deaf? Lol
I'm only interested in vacations in North Korea, you guys have anything in that region?
Nah brah, no good deals in N Korea.
If there was a deal where you pay a one time fee from 20.000$ to 50.000$ to get in a Hilton club where you get to pay 2.000$, 2.500$ per month for a months stay in any Hilton hotel across the world, and you get free laundry service and free breakfast +wifi that would be a game changer!
I would basically buy that Club membership and travel the world staying one month per country in every country where there is a Hilton hotel!!!
But the 20.000 to 50.000 must be the level of membership, where 20.000 is normal room and 50.000 is a suite, Fk I would maybe pay 100.000$ for the membership to get the biggest best executive king suite available!
That would be awesome.
I would reserve the planes and hotels a year in advance to get the best trip possible, 12 countries in a year one month in each lol.
I just couldn’t do it, love the Elara however.
Elara is great for one bedrooms and up. The studios are so dated and aren’t worth the price.
Did they break your hand down there??
There are a lot of sales reps in these comments. 😂
I've been to about 6 timeshares for the past 6 years or so and the sale rep are pushy, but they are not pushy in a sense that they will insult you. When you think about sales, nobody wants to be insulted because if you piss customers off, the sale will not happen, so this never happened to me. Now, they do say "do you not want to save money? which I don't believe is insult, but never had any sales rep mentioned the word "stupid", or 'dumb" in any context. They are pushy in a way where they said "anyone can afford $300 month for a dream vacation" or "what would it take for you to buy timeshare" or something along that line. Now if you stand your ground, then the sale rep will bring a "Closer" who is the person who is even more pushy and get you to buy. The closer would knock the price down, add additional incentives to get you to buy and ask questions like " What is stopping you from your dream vacation" or "we are showing you numbers which proves you are saving money", or something along that line.
I’m glad you haven’t had any insults thrown your way during these meetings. I clearly remember at the Elara Vegas meeting where the salesperson asked “don’t you want to save money? Are you stupid or something?” I explained to him over and over again I fly and stay in Vegas using points and comps but he just didn’t listen and probably just lost his cool.
@@GoodDealTraveler I'm guessing you didn't buy the timeshare. Sales 101. When you insult a customer, the chances of making the sales is pretty much 0%. The sales rep you've spoke with is either fairly new or poorly trained.
Most of the negative reviews I’ve seen with timeshares mostly deal with the high pressure sales pitch. Ironically the only timeshare I’ve come across that doesn’t try to get you into a meeting and coax you into a sale was Disney vacation club. On that one you have to go to them and request a “tour”. Then they give the sales pitch. They also were the only timeshare that I felt was the most honest. Also it was the only time share that wasn’t in perpetuity and has a sunset date.
We ultimately purchased club Wyndham, did so direct so we could get vip status. The only
Issue I have with the club Wyndham is it’s in perpetuity, or forever unless you do a certified buy back which essentially is you give them back the timeshare for free. Which assuming we use it for the amount of time we anticipate I’m fine with. Why did we want a time share? Due to the size of our family mostly, we are a family of 6 so most of the time we are basically buying 2 rooms or suites. Our Disney vacation last year cost us 4 times as much for the room as our tickets to the parks. Not only that but timeshare rooms typically are much nicer and roomy compared to normal rooms.
Finally I’ll say that timeshares aren’t for everyone, and almost always buying direct is never a good deal. The only reason we bought club Wyndham direct is we got a “good” deal since they knew we were doing a direct comparison to Disney vacation club. They basically offered the exact same price on the DVC paperwork we had with us. But most of the time if you want a timeshare it’s best to buy resale. You won’t get all the perks you would buying direct but you’ll save a ton of money. Club Wyndham for example is selling on resale sites for a penny a point and some contracts I seen for free except closing costs.
I’ll say that the Hilton timeshare is maybe a bit better then club Wyndham since the trading partner Hilton uses trades directly with Disney into Disney vacation club resorts. Used to be club Wyndham but switched to Hilton as a trade partner.
For more useful information about timeshares people should check out timeshare users group or Google tug forum. They will give you the best advice and can give you all the tips for the timeshare sales meetings, where the best deals to buy timeshares are, and how to effectively use your timeshare if you buy one. Most of them will tell you flat out buy resale, unless you want full membership and only then buy the least you need for that level.
How can I get rid of my timeshare? Worldmark/Windham? I’ve had mine for 31 years and witnessed senior citizens being berated after 90 min + presentation. I was trying to leave as well. This was in Vegas.
Did u pay it off? And do u continue paying the maintenance fee? Just curious
first of all if u travel and like nice places and like five star resorts
This is great info!!!!
Can i just say. Get me outta here i want the gift? Do they kick you out after that?
I really don’t understand how people can have a good conscience attending Timeshare Presentations over and over again just to mooch a gift. People who work there are REAL people who are commission only, licensed real estate agents and this is their JOB that they have to support their families with. If you are just going there to mooch, please stop wasting your time and theirs. Says a lot about you guys!
We’re following their terms and playing by their rules, which says can’t attend if you have attended one in the past year. We fit their financial demographic and sit through their presentation by being attentive listeners. We understand their terms and it’s their job to convince us. We’re just never convinced what they’re offering is worth it. They use aggressive sales tactics meant to trap people into making purchases they don’t fully understand, as well as unfavorable terms buried in their contract agreements. We’re trying to level the playing field for others.
I’m a bit worried. I read everything on HGVC regarding the requirements for their package and presentation and it said nothing about purchasing the package more than once. I received an offer in 2022& purchased it by March 17th 2022. My cohabiting partner and I attended the presentation in the past. We booked this time again because I received the email offer. We’ve spent 800 in upgrades & obviously plan to attend the presentation again. Just worried we will run into issues because this is not our first time. I hope we will be okay and we won’t get charged any fees. I already received my confirmation info so I’m hoping everything goes okay.
My wife and I completed a Hilton timeshare sales meeting in Vegas last week. We did not know about this presentation until the trip was confirmed. We also had no knowledge about Hilton Timeshare or even Timeshare in general. We thought it was a presentation on how great Hilton is and what we need to do was to be a good sport in exchange for the discounted hotel rate. Thus, we went to the meeting totally unprepared. The sales rep did try to push us to accept an offer, which seemed too good to be true. He also gave us a lot of fuzzy math, which did not make much sense. We kept saying "no" nicely but firmly as we had no interest in committing our future trips to Hilton. We prefer a diverse traveling experience, such as Airbnb, RV, and less expensive hotels. Even if we would like to stay at a luxury hotel, there are so many options. It is ridiculous to commit to Hilton. Two hours later, our meeting ended with 15000 hh points and a $100 rebate for my next stay at Hilton. The sales rep did try to make a connection to our Asian Background to build a rapport. Q1: Is it worth it? It all depends on your perception. Q2: Will we do it again? Maybe, if the discount is attractive. Q3: Will we purchase Hilton Timeshare? NO!. Q4: Was the sales meeting pushy? Yes, but not too hard. I can handle much more pressure than this. I have no difficulty saying "no" firmly and nicely for 2 hours. An impulse purchase is not my thing. After the meeting, I found a lot of negative reviews on Hilton Timeshare online. I would stress that Hilton Timeshare is a business. The sales rep can be aggressive. You should stay strong and refuse an offer you do not need or cannot afford. Finally, Hilton Timeshare may be a good fit for those who (a) are loyal to Hilton, (b) strongly prefer nicer rooms at a luxury hotel, (c) have a clear traveling plan at least 8 months in advance, and (d) are financially successful and thereby insensitive to cost - this is the most important one. You can tell that Hilton Timeshare only fits a small population.
I would add that we paid $560 for a 3-night stay in a 1-bedroom suite at Trump hotel. This can be cheaper than usual but still normal. Thus, we didn’t feel that we were taking an advantage of Hilton grand vacation. Thus, the sale pitch was completely out of surprise. Nevertheless, it was a great experience staying at trump hotel. The view out of the window was spectacular.
Thanks for sharing your detailed experience! I agree with your thoughts. Some timeshare meetings were more high pressure than others but the Vegas HGV strip was the least pushy.
My comment got two thumb-ups. Great. Eventually, we left without buying anything. The whole situation was like insulting one's IQ. The sales rep said that the offer was only good for here and now. Why would anyone with a normal mind make a big purchase (more than 25K) without taking enough time to think it over? If someone seriously attempts to make me believe what is apparently not in my interest, it only means that he/she believes that I might be dumb enough to believe it. Thus, I feel insulted by Hilton, and thereby motivated to write a long passage here.
@@joesmith9980 completely agree!! No one would make a large purchase after only a few hours of thought. You’d need to read the fine print and completely understand what you’re getting into without the rush and urgency from a salesman
@@joesmith9980 25K? What on earth!!!! It makes me sad that having a points card, calling about said points, leads to this disaster.
Run, run……
Is it mandatory to have your credit pulled?
They will not pull your credit for the timeshare meeting! Maybe if you buy it, I’m not sure since I didn’t go that route.
169 a year and on year 2, it will be 999
What's the voucher good for using on?
It’s a $200 voucher to stay at one of Hilton’s properties, but you have to pick. We chose doubletree, but there were other choices like Hilton garden inn, Hampton inn, etc. After staying a doubletree we submitted the receipt and got a Visa gift card for $200 in the mail a few weeks later
TOP TIP:
Next time when dealing with the time share pushers - just stand up and yell out "THIS PLACE will be PERFECT as my HIDE OUT! Who here will join me as my GOON ARMY?!? MUUAHH AHH HAAA!"
They will let you go immediately.
source: my experience
how do you get to do this at Elara?
You’ll get an email that says call this number when you’re ready to book. Request Elara when they ask you which property. Elara is the hardest one to reserve so definitely do it early. You get a studio as the base room, and you can upgrade to 1 or 2 bedroom if you like.
Elaea
Seems like a lot of hassle, especially for first timers. But looks like if I go to one of these presentations, what I'll tell them is: "Say what you wanna say, but I plead the 5th, the right to remain silence. The only thing I'm gonna say to you right now before the silence kicks in is: "I am NOT interested in ANYTHING you're offering."
It was certainly overwhelming the first time I did a meeting. Eventually you learn to grow thicker skin and not take anything personally, they’re trying to do a job and you’re trying to get outta there asap, no matter how!
They went easy on you cuz he burnt his hand ...
So you recieved 200$ after spending 200$ and a 200$ certificate...was trying to listen but you didn't make it clear and what you recieved...think I heard a free meal oh and a bunch of fuzzy math!
Haha yea they made it quite confusing. You pay $200 upfront. After the meeting you get refunded $200 onto your credit card. Then they give you a paper certificate for $200 hilton hotels. After your stay at the next hotel you mail that in along with the receipt, 8 weeks later they mail you a visa gift card up to $200.
IMHO you were so afraid about the process so you didn’t understand nothing ….I’m a HGV member since 1998 and has been a great way of travel for me and my family.
I’m glad you’re able to get great value out of it, but most of us aren’t able to travel to a HGV location each year for the rest of our lives and sell their timeshares penny’s to the dollar. Instead of paying 40-50k with 2 hours to think about it, you can find the same thing for a fraction of the cost on eBay and you have time to look thoroughly look over the contract. That is if you feel HGV is for you. Not everyone has bad experiences though and I’m glad you figured out how to take advantage of it!
I'm sorry that you were brainwashed to buy timeshares. And that it's been going on for so long, you poor thing. I hope you can get out of it ASAP.
Don't let these fools tell you anything g 9068😂 they go on vacation 3 days at a time, so frightened by the presentation that they could never even listen. Meanwhile we go to places that cost obscene amounts of money, all on the cost of a couple grand in maintenance each year, which is what any normal family has to pay for a week at a holiday Inn these days, let alone a true resort beachfront in a tropical paradise
Gabe is obviously a timeshare salesman 😂
Ever considered maybe the deal has changed in the last 25 years and maybe it's not such a good deal anymore?
The website says the cost is $250 but there are no refunds after the presentation.
To get this offer call Hilton regarding anything about your account. After the call they’ll ask you to listen to their special offer for 500 hilton points. You’ll get transferred to another agent who presents the offers. Don’t bite until the end when you get $200 for 3 nights, $200 returned, and $200 stay on us certificate
Nope hold out for the $164… I was yelling at the Hilton people while somebody was trying to sell me this and they dropped it down even further…lol
Lmao imagine going to timeshare presentations as a way to vacation. Not only can you take away from an oppourtunity from a fellow human trying to feed their family, (selling timeshare doesnt make you a pos when there are tons of people enjoying the heck out of their timeshares) you have to waste a few hours of your day trying to not look like you're not just money tight, which everyone knows you are or you wouldnt be subjecting you and the girl you love to this entire situation. If you need that much help for a few nights in vegas maybe you should go in with at least an open mind, those timeshares are built for regular familes to be able to vacation consistantly. And hilton has a lot of good reviews and hasnt gotten any heat in the media for shady sales practises like wyndham and other brands
The room I’ve gotten at Elara was worth $400 a night, multiplied by 4 nights is $1600. Takes most people around 40 hours to make that much if you average $40/hour after tax. I’m out of the timeshare meeting in 90-120 minutes. I agree there’s plenty of people making great use out of their timeshares, but to do it year after year until you’re dead is a hassle. Their business model makes a lot of money not because most people are getting full value out of it, it’s because most people aren’t getting anywhere close to that.
Moochers
Can you say MOOCH much? You guys just embarrassed yourselves to the world!
I finished in….. 40 minutes lol
And dod you get offer