Undervolt your Ryzen 7 3700X for more FPS and Lower Temperature!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Those Ryzen 3000 CPUs can be quite a bit power hungry if you let them behave like they want to, which is why today we're setting this R7 3700X to be more performing in multithread AND more power efficient, with lower temps and stopping it from overheating. The only downside is losing a bit of single core performance, but it's negligible in the real world!
This also works for the following models of AMD Ryzen 7: 3800X 3800XT
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I don't speak English, I'm using a translator. Thanks to your video, I managed to reduce the temperature by approximately 15 degrees. Thank you.
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
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Hello, I am writing this through a translator. Thank you very much for clearly explaining, the settings applied well to the Ryzen 7 3800X, the temperatures dropped by about 11 degrees in AIDA, they were 78 to 67-69, and the overall performance and stability became a little better. Thank you very much again for your video, it helped a lot.
My man! Glad I could help, consider dropping a sub to support the channel :) Also I do have tutorials for GPUs too
It worked great for me. More than 10 degrees Celsius less.Thank you so much!
you want to try testing it w/ OCC & Prime95 depending on the CPU even if its a 3700x it might not like a -0.075 offset and get an error.. or it might tolerate higher offset than this and gain more performance.
Don't do Soc Offset that offset will surely cause a RAM stability you can check it by using prime95, OCCT, karhu ram test, memtest etc.
Its also better to use manual PBO value of 300-230-230 for ryzen 3700x however this increase temp by more or less +10 C.. while the offset will reduce temp by more or less -10 C .. so yeah it will remaing like a stock setting however you will gain more performance inc. using both option why? the PBO manual setting will allow ryzen to boost higher on higher temp instead of suddenly reducing its core clock a lot. While the offset remove the added heat by PBO manual.
Additionally if you only use your PC for light multi tasking and mostly for gaming then you can disable SMT this will allow you to further lower your temp and increase your Vcore offset higher as well get better latency and gain a performance inc. on single threaded games (most game utilize 1 thread) this will again reduce temp.
You also change the CPU's temperature limit from 90/95 to 120C, disabling C-state & AMD cool & Quiet both of this are power saving modes.. This will force CPU to not go to sleep/idle below base clock of 3.6ghz unless CPU requires to hit higher clock for a few core and will reduce other unused core below base clock to get higher clock on current used core.
While the temperature limit will allow ryzen to boost more frequently in lower temp however this increases temp so combining this with PBO your CPU now will boost slightly higher both on lower and higher temp underload.
While the Offset reduces temperature to maintain better boost now all you need is a good cooler.
Well the true performance boost of ryzen is by tweaking your RAM to the tightest and highest possible frequency you can reach.
Combine both and now you have a performance in between of a 5600 & 5600x stock.
clear, simple and straight to the point
Thanks heaps for the tips, you are straight up the best
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My man, this is great!!! It worked like a charm!!! Grazie!!!!
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for me
bequiet silent 601
Arctic P14 fans
B550 tomahawk
dark rock 4
3700x
rx 6700
voltage offset - 0,1000v
idle 33/40°C, in game 45/55°C, and full load OCCT or cinebench 67°C
in game frequencies 4250mhz
cinebench frequencies
stock cooler 3920mhz
dark rock 4 3990mhz 11700pts
dark rock 4 + undervolt 4090mhz 12162pts
max consumption stock 88w, unervolted 77w
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
Hey I have stock cooler, and idle temps are around 50, should I undervolt to 0.1000??
@@callumgodden5707 yes, my 3700x work with -0.1000v, go in your bios, set the offset to -0,020v, launch OCCT 30 min, look your T°C, frequencies and power, if it's ok down to -0,030v launch OCCT 30 min etc... etc... if you crash at -0.1100v return to -0.1000v, and launch OCCT 1hour, if it's OK you have an stable undervolt
@@fabr1852 TBH 1hr isn't enough for stability test for either RAM or CPU OC/undervolt.
Just like what most user and tech says do a 12hr min. Or a 24hrs test for Rock solid stability.
For example I have 0 error for an hour to 4 or 6hrs and suddenly will get error oh 8th or 9th or 10th or soo on.
And readjust setting and do a test from the start again.
Until I got a Rock solid 24hrs no error.
Well even then it's stable I also keep trying to find the lowest stable voltage.
For example I'm at 3733mhz CL-15-8-19-13-21-(34) trfc 280 (150ns) and most secondary timings at safe to tight timings.
Soc vol 1.136V
Vddp 0.97v (will get some IF stability when lowered)
Vddg/vddc 1.0v (0.985v no audio noise but still get unstable AKA weird freezes can't click on desktop, autominimize app, screen turning rainbow and going back to normal)
Then I'm gonna do this offset vcore offset to reduce temp and increase boost (PB) until stable then going to do a (PBO manual) with user recommended setting 300-230-230 x2 scaler "which is somewhat tricky to understand TBH I don't understand this at all'.
But what clear is ryzen 5000-7000 uses the same manual optimization as Curve Optimizer which reduces temp and increasing boost while pushing PB and PBO to limits in a user friendly interface which is easy to understand than ryzen 3000 vcore offset+PBO manual+OC
And you can manually adjust voltage per Core out performing a all core offset of ryzen 3000 and reducing a lot of temps while increasing higher boost clock.
I S**k that ryzen did not do the same on 3000 series... They allowed Resbar or SAM on 3000 series but not curve optimizer support.
Why undervolt SOC voltage. Motherboards don’t overvolt SOC. If anything, it should be bumped a bit to 1.1 to 1.2v. CPU scaler does nothing, so that’s a useless setting. Undervolting the stock voltage is ok, but you could have done more. Otherwise, why not a static voltage and a true oc of the cpu multiplier or set each core per CCD. Not sure I’d call this an overclock/undervolt at all. Pretty basic……pretty simple. For increased PBO performance you’d want to set manual CPU package power in watts, EDC limit, and TDC limit. Even at a static voltage, if the CPU isn’t doing anything there is no wattage/amperage draw. Bottom line, for a proper overclock or even just tuning PBO, there are many more settings and voltages to consider. I surmise these settings would gain you “nada”.
It does seem to work for most people here in the comments though :/
I followed this guide a year ago however not all ryzen 3700x will be stable at -0.075V offset.
Mine is stable in prime95 & OCCT Small FFT + AIDA64 24 hours test each.
However its unstable in idle it causes code 19 error in the event viewer PC restart when idle yep only in idle state and fully stable underload = not stable.
I find out that at stock the highest offset i can set is -0.066V which fixed the code 19 error/random restart in the windows event viewer.
Now i applied PBO manual x2 scaler, +200hz auto OC & manual value 300-230-230 for power limit and 120 thermal limit.
What happen is since the power limit is now gone and the 3700x can use the max power it is allowed the offset -0.066V is no longer stable and need to tune it down to -0.054V to become fully stable.
Now i tweak the system again to gain a lil bit more performance by disabling C-state + AMD cool & quiet (cpu power saving modes) & pref core (ryzen 3000 better to turn off while its better to turn on this on ryzen 5000).
I also disabled SMT to gain more perf on games that don't use HT (specially in Online MMORPG games are not optimized for HT).
Disabling SMT reduce temp which mean I can increase the offset value since its no longer using the additional thread.
I increase offset value to -0.090V (best sweet spot for me -0.0096V is stable but find out that single core & multi core performance drop).
Set Bclock to 100Mhz.
CPU's IF is also OCed due to RAM manual OC of 3733Mhz 98% manually tuned RAM past all RAM stability apps yep ALL for 24hrs -48hrs++ each test (to much work last year took me 6 months to stabilize GDM Off 1T w/ the tightest primary, secondary & tertiary timings).
Oh... i don't advice the Vcore offset, if this is ryzen 5000 yep you can do that for 3200Mhz XMP even on manually tuned RAM OC you can get away with 1.1V or even 1.05V for good binned ryzen 5000.
I'm currently at Soc Voltage 1.190 V. for my RAM OC if i reduce it this will produce error in 1 or 2 Ram stability app, well 1.2V is safe for ryzen 3000, If i remember correctly 1.25V for ryzen 5000 when pushing above 1:1 ratio 4000MT/s OC
On Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite those settings are alot more complex.
I get a windows error, I put from 1.35 to 1.29, it makes an error. But I installed the ASUS software on my motherboard, I even put 1.05 and 3000MHZ, it's perfect but I have to set it every time I turn on the PC
my cpu has been funky so hope this helps
Great videos man. I'm new with undervolting so your channel has been very helpful. I have this same CPU and with the settings you're sharing I get some random restarts... They're not often but still... What can I do to make the system a bit more stable? Thanks!
That's not stable meaning it failed
@@priersantos Yeah, that's what I'm saying actually. Apparently the 0.07500 value is not stable in my case. I was wondering if other value might work better so it's more stable. Any ideas?
Hey man, absolutely! Set it to -0.05 and you’ll be good :)
@@ImWateringPSUs Cool! Thanks a lot man! I'll try it out
hey also I have the same cpu, I advice you to change the Precision boost overdrive to manual and to change the values to 300 230 230
Hey, I do not have any settings lik the vddcr cpu voltage setting in my bios. Why?
Different motherboards call their settings in a different way, but the setting is the same. Try looking for VCore, CPU Voltage, VID, something like that!
Hey, after applying my monitor says no signal. Any ideas why?
Try giving it 50mV more, it means you're not stable!
@@ImWateringPSUsmeaning 0.02500 right?
me too
Can i apply this settings with stock cooler (Wraith prism??
Absolutely yes
Questo procedimento può funzionare anche per Ryzen 7 2700x?
Sì!
Shoud i leave the "Auto OC" in Ryzen master or disable it ?
It did’nt lower the temperature for me. Why is that? The temperature actually rises by 1°C (from 73,4°C to 74,4°C) when I run Cinebench. I did exactly what you did. Do I need to undervolt even more do you think?
Also the core frequency went up a little bit from 3999MHz to 4050MHz.
You can set PBO in two ways in Ryzen 3000
Set Auto temperature limit in PBO and play with offset and limits or lock max temperature limit whatever you want and check effettive clock and stability but Is more complicated.
EDC Is dependent from Watts and Vcore, TDC Is dependent from EDC and Watts temperature and Watts are limited from your CPU tollerance.
I wached this video a couple of times and i was not sure to do it. I just did, i will updste to see how ir performs.
Still no update
@@prrish I had forgotten about it. But its working perfectly.
More fps? A lot of beeping is what i get on startup
Reduce the offset, you unfortunately have an unlucky CPU!
I need your help buddy! I followed this to undervolt my 3700x which i greatly appreciate, but im building another pc with a 5700x. What offset numbers do you reccommend for that cpu? Any info would be greatly appreciated!
I do have a few vids about the 5000 series Ryzen chips, you can go as low as setting a static 1.050V if you’re willing to drop the multicore a bit. Offset wise, anywhere from -0.05 to -0.1
@@ImWateringPSUs Nice! Thx so much for your response. I will try that and see how it goes.
For gigabyte Mob I can't see the same settings. Can you help please 🙏
First of all, update the bios! Then, they might have a slightly different name but they’re there, I talk about it shortly in the video!
Im getting a blue screen from undervolting any tips around this?
Which settings are you using specifically?
The settings in the video, i researched online and supposedly its idle Blue screen, when im gaming it runs fine
I have a ryzen 3700x
@@BlackFlameDragonBOSS voltage is dropping too much when all cores are idle. set it to 50 mV less instead of 75 mV less.
I have a R7 3700X and i want to do this because my fps sucks but my bios is way different and i cant find any of the settings. Matter of fact I have none of these options. I have a prebuilt Lenovo legion gaming pc.
I do have a dedicated video for Ryzen laptops!
Would this contradict the settings I’ve used on Ryzen Master? apparently the Ryzen Master settings only apply when you open the program every single time you restart
You can only use one of the two!
@@ImWateringPSUs then i rather use Ryzen master since it’s easy to open and easy to reset if needed
I have a processor Ryzen 7 pro 3700. I set it up as you said. Then windows does not start. So I undo setting.
You need to give it a little more voltage!
on asrock liefi motherboard there is no option to make offset or + or - sign, can i just input the values alone?
Yes, just out the - in front the value! -0.05
After this settings I got bsod on idle and after it couldn’t even boot … what bios version do you have?
Latest one! Worst case drop the core clock a little bit OR decrease the offset
Please help me my cpu don’t accept undervolt It stay staple only with + 0.025 is it safe or to high
Its bad chip its with normal voltage not stable
I just give it vddcr cpu voltage 0.025 v
And every thing default
Just xmp on
And what is higher 0.025 or 0.1 ty so much for help ❤️
Give it -0.025, you need the - sign! Also it only works if you subscribe to the channel :)
@@ImWateringPSUsI try every thing remove bios battery and do it but it’s don’t accepting it give blue screen with normal volt
If I give it 0.025+ is it bad or to high
@@ImWateringPSUs is it dangerous if I give it plus +0.025 ?
Because it’s not stable with normal volts
question about offset.. increase or down ? whats good? is the point to get as low offset as possible or higher?
It needs to go down! The highest (negative) number the better!
@@ImWateringPSUs i understand, it did not work well for me.. got some blue screen or random restart at 0.075 .. seeing higest clock was 4.3 ghz.. maybe that why.. so i just did not do ant pbo and just set fixed 4ghz with 1.25 volt.. volt prob. can go down a tad more. i guess CPU is like "bronze" silicon. sucks.
Thank you 😁
I’m doing that now my pc is super slow so I will test it
I have the problem that the pc dont start on the first try. i updated all
Try -0.04 :)
My cpu doesnt boost past 3.58ghz even after changing these settings back, any help?
Instead of the 0.07500 try the 0.0500000
And don't change the SOC voltage
Be sure to have your BIOS updated and to doublecheck where you’re testing it!
Hello ı have 3700x with x570 gaming carbon but when ı set to above 0.05 ı get blue screens
That is reasonable, 0.05 is already a very good offset. To get it down further, you’d have to drop the clocks
My voltage is pushing 1.464v with this settings tejps 37c @4.350mhz is this voltage even safe?
It is lower than stock AMD settings, so yes it’s safer actually!
@@ImWateringPSUs thnx bro.
Bro thank you very much
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
you forgot the main thing, change the Precision boost overdrive to manual and put the values 300 230 230
Does this help?
And why that?
No need to do that man
@@eddieruiz3214 well basically this allows the mobo to put in max watt and current into the cpu so the cpu can max perform. i wouldnt recommend this unless u upgrade ur cpu every 3 years and u have excellent cooling. if u do, then along with the above recommendation, make the scalar 5x. if u want a cool and a cpu that will be good for 5 yrs+, dont do this. me personally i put it as 125 74 110. this will give u a decent boost. i got this from reddit oc community, do confirm.
Why do you have to set the pbo scalar from auto to 2?
It makes the curve a bit more linear, helping with temps!
holy crap thank you
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I got Blue sceeen and bricked my RAM stick
Heyyy it gave me blue screen a couple of times any idea how to make it better?
enter a lower value, always reducing it by 0.05 until it is stable!
@@cleytonandrade8952thx a lot it worked wonderfully
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Would this be the same settings for 3900x ?
Yes! But I also do have a dedicated tutorial for the 3900XT!
Hello, Can I do this with my Ryzen 3400G?
Yes!
this work for my ryzen 7 3800x with b450 aorus elite v2? im new in undervolting
Of course, it works with every cpu
Exactly as he said!
@@diogocaldeira6034ok thx so much. but, im trying to modify the voltages in my bios and i cant to modify the parameters idk why
@@destroyerESP what do you mean?
@@diogocaldeira6034 i do the part of activating PBO and later u need to touch voltages in Bios, i go to voltage advanced config and i literally cant modify nothing of the parameters
Ciao, potrei fare la stessa cosa con un 7 5700x?
Sì!
On 5000 series you can do it only using PBO and the curve optimizer, its very easy to do, see ruclips.net/video/veav1CBTl9k/видео.html
But on 3000 series the curve optimizer is not available and needs to be done like in this vid.
Usually i go with 1v and 4.2ghz
Safe spot
Good advice, but you need a VERY good chip for that
Currently I just set the ratio to 42.50 and set precision boost and rebar. Would your technique be better for fps? It seems to help in Msfs but It could be placebo? Thinking of getting the R7 5800X3D tho since I play Msfs heavy.
It would definitely improve the 1% lows and .1% lows FPS with my method, but with yours you are probably gonna get slightly higher average fps
I play it too whats ur xbox name
@@Petras_Gaming I play on Pc. But it’s cross play isn’t it?
@@juanwhick1691 i play on pc too and it has multiplayer
@@Petras_GamingI’d be down to fly together bro. Never had anyone to play with on there. Got no friends with PCs.
Does undervolt do damage?
No
Nope, not at all! If anything, it actually extends a bit the life of your CPU since it’s running at a lower voltage!
@@ImWateringPSUs cheers man
Higher voltages damage the silicon faster, undervolting can also prevent temperature throttle
no, the only risk is a crash with reboot and reset initial values
next undervolt: i5 10400 pls
Will do! But little tip in the meantime, it’s the exact same as my i7 11700 undervolting tutorial!
Hi there, do I let processor mhz to default 3600mhz?
Yes don’t change it
Ho fatto esattamente come hai detto tu mettendolo a meno 0.0075, automaticamente lo metteva a 78 però comunque una volta salvato non accedeva più a Windows mi dava sempre schermata blu, la scheda madre è un x570 aorus élite
Metti -0.05, vedi che funziona! :)
@@ImWateringPSUssembrerebbe che funzioni, farò dei test per vedere di quanti gradi è diminuito. Grazie mille
I het blue screen
Give it a little less offset!
Ryzen 5 3600 work ???
Yes!
Hey my core voltage shows less than your 1.448v but I'm on exact same mobo and cpu, showing 1.36 or so and I applied the rest as in the video, seems fine but am i not giving enough voltsge to my CPU, how csn i set to 1.448?
In the bios you can change the vCore!