Budapest to Vienna on One of Europe's Most Complex and Important International Trains

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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    Join me today on a journey aboard the Hungarian Railways EuroCity train from Budapest to Vienna. This train serves as a key international connection, starting from Chop, where the through carriages from the sleeper service originating in Kyiv are attached as part of the complex operation of getting this train all the way to Vienna. In this video, we'll explore what it's like to travel in the comfortable first-class and Ukrainian sleeper carriages. We'll also take a tour of the dining car, giving you a complete experience of this important international rail service.
    Train type: MAV Taurus Siemens EuroSprinter and various coaches
    Route: Budapest-Keleti to Wien Hauptbahnhof
    Train: EC140 "Chop-Wien"
    Distance: 257km
    Journey time: 2h40m
    Average speed: 96 km/h
    Price: From 13€

Комментарии • 111

  • @bodecsabi
    @bodecsabi Месяц назад +171

    Actually, MÁV and ÖBB does not really compete with each other. They run both the Railjets and EuroCity trains jointly.

  • @ExplorebyRail
    @ExplorebyRail Месяц назад +64

    Vagonweb really is one of the best sources for anything train-related!

  • @adamzalabai
    @adamzalabai Месяц назад +58

    MÁV is quite an interesting story for me. They're underfunded, mismaganged, terribly inconsistent in both quality and reliability, but I just can't help but love them.

    • @trainsandmodelshungary
      @trainsandmodelshungary Месяц назад +13

      I think they do a pretty good job considering how underfunded n sabotaged they r alllll the time. But I totally get what you mean. Safe travels!

    • @WinterSummerTrainspotting
      @WinterSummerTrainspotting 17 часов назад

      try the Romanian railways and you will have a new definition for "underfunded, mismanaged, terribly inconsistent in both quality and reliability"

  • @HelloOnepiece
    @HelloOnepiece Месяц назад +18

    Honestly considering its traffic, Kelenföld may could the most important or 2nd most important train station in the country.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +7

      Also after the metro got there, it can actually be used as a city station for many more people!

  • @HelloOnepiece
    @HelloOnepiece Месяц назад +17

    As a hungarian, the food prices are very reasonable... costs are about the same as a normal café shop in the city, or even cheaper

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the insight, good to know its also reasonable for Hungarians!

  • @bodecsabi
    @bodecsabi Месяц назад +21

    Actually, the 2nd Class compartment cars are way more dense - yes still 6 seats per compartment as in first class, but the compartments are actually way narrower, the legroom is way worse.. In the 2nd class car there are 11 compartments, wheras in first class only 9.

    • @Alexriga
      @Alexriga Месяц назад +2

      Not that big difference.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      I don't think they are narrower at least not noticeable, but yes i see how that there are more in second so the legroom will deffo be worse, thanks for sharing!

  • @oskarsrode2167
    @oskarsrode2167 29 дней назад +7

    I took the MÁV train to Mukacheve a year ago.
    The border control in Hungary on the platform was quite chaotic, and we changed to different MÁV cars.
    This train then continued to Chop and Mukacheve.
    There the train arrives on a separate platform and you need to walk to the rest of the station.
    I coudn't book the Mukacheve-Lviv ticket at the MÁV international counter, so I had to do it in Mukacheve. Fortunately, they had an international/tourist counter there with a nice lady that spoke English well.
    Now use the combined Regiojet/UZ service from Krakow to Lviv, but trains can be booked out weeks ahead as there many people going between Ukraine and the EU and no flights due to the war.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад

      Thanks for your report, i took the Mukacheve to Budapest train on my way back from Ukraine and because of a 1 hour delay at the border, our train was terminated at Zahony and we were forced to take other trains to Budapest.

  • @niceone99
    @niceone99 29 дней назад +8

    At first sight these ukranian sleeper cars look more comfortable than the old NightJet carriages. And definitely more cozy!

  • @NickBurman
    @NickBurman Месяц назад +45

    You should have mentioned that the Ukrainian sleepers changed bogies from 1520mm to 1435mm gauge at Chop.
    Don't get Adam Something going on MAV's IC coaches - his rants about their poor fit and finish are epic.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +12

      Ah yeah the gauge change is such a oversight 😔 yeah Hungarian railways is far from perfect, but it's quite fun for a rail enthusiast perspective, still plenty of old loco workings

    • @zsoltpeterdaniel8413
      @zsoltpeterdaniel8413 Месяц назад

      ​@@Simon-AndersenYou should visit rural Hungarian railway lines with Bzmot trains still in operation

    • @epegorcs6258
      @epegorcs6258 12 дней назад

      Ah yes, IC+ cars. When both doors can be opened at a station, allowing your kid to disembark into oncoming rail traffic.

    • @zsoltpeterdaniel8413
      @zsoltpeterdaniel8413 12 дней назад

      @@epegorcs6258 And the historical artifacts lulling them...

  • @srikanthshastry4546
    @srikanthshastry4546 28 дней назад +1

    Budapest Keleti is definitely one of most beautiful stations I've ever seen. It have an amazing mix really old and state of the art rolling stock all at the same time. Offers really easy connections to other local transports like trams, buses and the metro. All affordable rates and most importantly better maintenance that most western European main stations

  • @vasek2261
    @vasek2261 Месяц назад +10

    Vagonweb is excellent ❤

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o 28 дней назад +6

    10:00 "from my perspective as a Danish person, it's really cheap"
    Isn't that the case for most things in life? 😅

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      Haha, yeah, true. Maybe I could have been a bit clearer. What I meant was that I think it's cheap or reasonable from a Hungarian perspective, but I could be wrong due to my biased Danish view.

    • @realhawaii5o
      @realhawaii5o 22 дня назад +1

      @@Simon-Andersen It's indeed not too bad.
      I mean, DSB is also very affordable with the orange tickets, for example.
      But I've had British people tell me Portuguese train prices are affordable when in actuality, for the time it takes and comfort of the journey, it's not ideal when compared with Spain, for example.
      Yet, in Europe, the king of cheap rail for me remains Latvia.

  • @nikkuwu
    @nikkuwu Месяц назад +11

    Jeg elsker du Simon ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @trainsandmodelshungary
    @trainsandmodelshungary Месяц назад +4

    Really enjoyed your video, liked and subscribed :) I like all three companies (MÁV-Start, ÖBB, n RegioJet) on this route. They are all a bit different in their own ways. Safe travels!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you! Its always nice to have plenty of choices!

  • @thehorisonboi
    @thehorisonboi 29 дней назад +1

    One quick note: The light switches on these DWA Amz carriages have 3 positions, with one being right between the on and off positions. It's an insignificant thing, that took me seceral trips on these to realise.

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 Месяц назад +6

    Simon speaking of the carriages at the back 2 years ago that would have been four to 10 of them basically Ukrainian Railways had a policy of increased frequency away from the front lines of eastern Ukraine in some cases there would have been coaches coming in from the Donbass/Kherson region where the front line is. Basically combining the two Refugee trains into a single train to Vienna if able to do so. 120 years ago this train would have been operated by KkStb which itself actually held control of the Hungarian State railways MAV Wien Budapest Krasne Brody/Tarnopol Kyiv. Gauge change from 1.435m to 1.520m tracks ends up occurring at the two stations where Austria bordered Russia Tarnopol/Brody.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing, that's very interesting !

  • @viennatramway
    @viennatramway 29 дней назад

    As a frequent traveller I prefer the MAV sets because of the restaurant car - cheap, good, comfortable. Forget the Railjet Restaurant!

  • @edmundcarew7235
    @edmundcarew7235 22 дня назад

    Great that you reviewed a daytime loco-hauled train with a proper dining car. Well done to MAV.
    In 2022, my wife and I from Australia enjoyed the 'Nightjets' but on one train, the toilets were not working in almost all sleeping compartments.
    One other journey was in a four berth couchette where as usual storage space for larger suitcases is non existent. This meant I had to act like Harry Houdini to crawl out of my berth at night when I wanted to go to the loo (toilet).
    On the plus side, the supplements using first class Global Eurailpasses were OK but others have complained more recently about the big rise in Nightjet fares (and supplements!) Maybe OBB will listen if patronage falls off a cliff?
    Keep up the high standard of reviewing.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      Thank you! I agree with much of what you have said about the Nightjet, much of which is also mentioned in my review i did a few weeks ago. I hope changes are coming because curerntly the price to quality ratio is not there on the Nigthjet anymore. Lots of good daytime options like what MAV displayed here all over europe tho :D

    • @edmundcarew7235
      @edmundcarew7235 22 дня назад

      @@Simon-Andersen The Nightjets may not be fully serviced at outstations such as La Spezia or Venezia: hence the toilets blocked problem. OBB needs to fix this.
      As an aside, for someone who is not a native English speaker, your English is excellent: this contributes to the enjoyment of your videos.

  • @BlueGhostGamer95
    @BlueGhostGamer95 28 дней назад +1

    You forgot (or were exploring the carriages when it happened), that the EuroCity does stop at the town of Tatabány, between Kelenföld and Győr

    • @arondox
      @arondox 24 дня назад

      and Mosonmagyaróvár, between Győr and Hegyeshalom

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      No space for them on the map im afraid, also a few ones between zahony and budapest left out. But it might have been good to mention elsewhere in the video :-)

  • @Foxy_AR
    @Foxy_AR 15 дней назад

    I love how he still didn't fix the spelling of "Delay" at the end 😂

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  12 дней назад

      It will probably keep happening as it happens when i change an On Time template to a Delay one and type too fast xd

  • @benedekhalda-kiss9737
    @benedekhalda-kiss9737 Месяц назад +4

    Wow I did not know you could access the Ukrainian coaches. Might take this sometime then

    • @trainsandmodelshungary
      @trainsandmodelshungary Месяц назад +5

      Be careful, this might have just been luck. They usually lock sleeper carriages.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +8

      I think i got lucky, or maybe they open it so passengers can go to the dining car.

  • @OnkelJajusBahn
    @OnkelJajusBahn Месяц назад +7

    Haven't tried Regiojet, but I prefere the MÁV cars over Railjet.
    Much more comfortable seats. And sometimes I also prefere travelling in a compartment, which isn't offered on the Railjets.

    • @trainsandmodelshungary
      @trainsandmodelshungary Месяц назад +2

      Wait until you see the new RailJets that Siemens n ÖBB threw together….you’ll love MÁV trains even more.

    • @bernardbouzon5499
      @bernardbouzon5499 Месяц назад

      They're not planned for Budapest

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      RegioJet also has compartments on some of their trains, could be worth trying them out!

    • @NetMan_PL
      @NetMan_PL 23 дня назад

      I travelled on 31st July on Budapest Nyugati -> Wien Hbf with Regiojet
      And it was really pleasent, cheap, comfy. The bar menu was also VERY cheap. Like a croissant with ham, cheese cost like 1.2€, a piece of cheesecake 0.5€, which for my Polish brain is incomprehensible and seems impossible - Especially on a train. My best train experience by far.
      ​@@Simon-Andersen

  • @keithdoherty8809
    @keithdoherty8809 24 дня назад

    Interesting that the front locomotive is essentially painted in British Rail Blue even the emblem appears to be a variant of the iconic BR one

  • @simonpilk
    @simonpilk 28 дней назад

    I have never used a Railjet between Budapest and Wien but have used both MAV and RegioJet, both being really good although I do love a good dining car so MAV might just get the nod from me.

  • @peterdancsi2498
    @peterdancsi2498 21 день назад

    Random cibbont kísérik a jardok - Ezek a mieink.

  • @Alfius_
    @Alfius_ 29 дней назад

    I remember riding on Ukrainian sleepers from Kyiv to my grandma at Mykolaiv.

  • @benceseger7748
    @benceseger7748 20 дней назад +2

    As I was watching you going into the Ukrainian car I'm like "Oh no, oh no.." Ukrainian train attendants will kick you out and actually yell at you for going into this car without a ticket. This car should have been locked, but I guess the MAV workers forgot to lock it.

  • @tarkatan971
    @tarkatan971 Месяц назад +3

    could you also talk about how much disabled people pay for tickets? As well as record train announcements from inside the train? The train announcement lover in me wants to hear❤️❤️

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      I'll try and keep in mind for future videos!

  • @WinterSummerTrainspotting
    @WinterSummerTrainspotting 17 часов назад

    it's nice but a bit misleading.
    I was expecting you try the Ukrainian carriages as I've rarely seen the carriages filmed from the inside.
    The MAV ones more often.

  • @nataliaromanchuk4740
    @nataliaromanchuk4740 9 дней назад

    I was actually going from Kyiv to Vienna

  • @Yagunitto
    @Yagunitto 29 дней назад +3

    🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Ukraine mentioned!

  • @keithdoherty8809
    @keithdoherty8809 24 дня назад

    Quick question regarding the Ukrainian coaches and rail lines are they Russian gauge and do they change the wheel axles or Standard gauge ?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      They change gauge at Chop, should have added in the video!

  • @deceneudeceneu8908
    @deceneudeceneu8908 25 дней назад

    Mav have romanian coaches buildet in arad😊

  • @caramelldansen2204
    @caramelldansen2204 6 дней назад

    What do you use to keep your camera stable outside of the train near the beginning?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  6 дней назад

      I just have my Osmo stick strapped to my hand with a wristband

    • @caramelldansen2204
      @caramelldansen2204 6 дней назад

      @@Simon-Andersen I'm impressed! I figured you had a monopod or tripod or something! Many thanks

  • @Electric100
    @Electric100 29 дней назад +2

    Delay? 11:05

    • @paulthiel5145
      @paulthiel5145 29 дней назад

      It's a recurring thing I've seen in multiple videos now. I think it's a typo in his overlay template 😉

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      Almost spot on, Paul. It's when I change the 'On Time' text to 'Delay' that I sometimes type a bit too fast and end up with swapping 2 letters. I don't know why, but when I re-watch the video for stuff like this, I just never spot it before uploading.

  • @jocking3b510
    @jocking3b510 19 дней назад

    How is it possible to use ukrainian carriages on hungarian and austrian rails? As far as I know, the rail gauge is wider in the former USSR contries, these carriages would not fit on these rails.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  12 дней назад

      The size of the carriage is built to Western standards, and the bogies are replaced in Chop with ones that fit Hungarian or Ukrainian gauge.

  • @TrainAndbusSpottingKanál
    @TrainAndbusSpottingKanál 26 дней назад +1

    České dráhy is also going to viena

  • @djpetesake
    @djpetesake 29 дней назад

    Nice video!
    Do all trains in Europe expect people to hang their bikes from the ceiling? or is that just a stereotype?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад +1

      Varies, in Denmark we dont have any trains with bikes stored like that

  • @EverydayInUa
    @EverydayInUa Месяц назад +2

    You absolutely free to make pics on Ukrainian trains even now while war

    • @16jan1986
      @16jan1986 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe he has talked to the wrong official

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +4

      I am aware that officially there is nothing prohibiting it, however unfortunately i was approached multipule times by officials and told not to take pictures or video at various stations, so i thought it was best to stay clear of trouble :-)

  • @SolaraFr
    @SolaraFr 28 дней назад

    0:11 if British railways bought the db br 182

  • @user-wu4cw5ed5w
    @user-wu4cw5ed5w Месяц назад +4

    412 carriage also comes from Ukraine, actually

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      @@user-wu4cw5ed5w No it doesn't, the sign on the outside displays the entire train route EC140 Chop -Vienna, but the carriage does actually get added in Záhony. www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=%D0%A3%D0%97&kategorie=%D0%A3%D0%97:%D0%A8&cislo=140&rok=2024

    • @user-wu4cw5ed5w
      @user-wu4cw5ed5w Месяц назад

      @@Simon-Andersen oof, right, it's done like that due to being a connecting through car group

  • @ronfan6379
    @ronfan6379 Месяц назад

    Super Video.. What year was it that you traveled this route by TRAIN?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      Video is filmed in March 2024

    • @ronfan6379
      @ronfan6379 29 дней назад

      @@Simon-Andersen Okay, did you also drive from Kiev via Liew to Chop?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  29 дней назад

      @@ronfan6379 No I only got on the train from Vienna to Budapest. I visited Ukraine later on a separate trip but I went to the carpathian mountains on that trip

  • @minefacex
    @minefacex 28 дней назад

    A spring video at the end of summer?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  22 дня назад

      I post variation not chronologically, so as long as nothing major has changed, you'll see videos that are older, because i cannot be in every country every month filming these.

    • @minefacex
      @minefacex 22 дня назад

      @@Simon-Andersen I see :D
      I hope you make more vids about central/south Europe rail.
      You could also check out the Szeged tram-train if you are around here. I am happy to help with getting around if you have any questions.

  • @MrKismarko
    @MrKismarko 29 дней назад +2

    Former government sold the cargo to Austria thatswhile the income of personal train tickets not enough to work well the route network.

  • @BengtHansves
    @BengtHansves Месяц назад +1

    UAZ - Ammendorfer ?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +4

      WLABm not quire a classic ammendorf, these are smaller to fit with UIC standards in western Europe

    • @tupolewposting2733
      @tupolewposting2733 Месяц назад

      Görlitz

  • @Serhiy-208
    @Serhiy-208 Месяц назад +1

    Kyiv - Berlin 🙏🙏 Video ???

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      No such train! Bud I'd love to make one on Kyiv - Warsaw which is an easy way of getting to Berlin

    • @Serhiy-208
      @Serhiy-208 Месяц назад

      @@Simon-Andersen ok

  • @lostmoose9994
    @lostmoose9994 29 дней назад

    I thought Ukraine has Russian trackwith ?

  • @tycoonsandsimulators904
    @tycoonsandsimulators904 24 дня назад

    I entered only because of the Ukrainian carriages

  • @TamasKiss-bv9hz
    @TamasKiss-bv9hz 25 дней назад

    ❤🤍💚💯💯💯❤🤍❤

  • @srinivaspastham6962
    @srinivaspastham6962 26 дней назад

    Its all smart gage tracks all uropean country y not run train in Broadgauge traks 🙂🌎🎉🎸🎸🌍🌍🎶🎶🎶👋👋🌍🎉🎉🎉🎉🌍🌍🙂🙂

  • @__Dude_
    @__Dude_ 29 дней назад

    Es würde der Verständlichkeit dienen, wenn du ein wenig langsamer sprichts. Du "verschluckst" zu viele Silben. Native speakers are much better understood.

    • @paulthiel5145
      @paulthiel5145 29 дней назад +2

      I have zero problems with understanding Simon.

  • @bernardbouzon5499
    @bernardbouzon5499 Месяц назад +4

    Prefer mav coaches 😉