TAOISM | Tap into nature's power with Deng Ming Dao (Te)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @maspoetry1
    @maspoetry1 2 года назад +61

    I've been diagnosed weeks ago (I'm 28) with a lifelong, physically painful inmune condition.
    Although part of it is genetic, part of it is my fault for not listening my body.
    I am not very worried about pain and death, but surely I will listen to my body from now on.
    And will share the little knowledge of what life has taught me.
    This video was a warm beam of light for me. Thank you, greetings from Scotland.

    • @gayalux1688
      @gayalux1688 2 года назад +1

      Watch the movie "Heal" by Kelly Noonan. It's a documentary about how people with chronic conditions and terminally ill patients managed to miraculously heal themselves. There are alternative healers, quantum physicists, biologists and other scientists who have discovered how consciousness manipulates our cells and environment according to what we think, feel and believe. I wanted to kill myself after I suddenly found a very scary debilitating disease made me completely dependent on others for most actions. I have been mostly bed ridden for almost two years, that movie gave me hope.

    • @fabiolacruz-martinez9826
      @fabiolacruz-martinez9826 2 года назад +5

      Hola!
      I hope you are doing well. I hear you, I have been on your situation. Worry is not the answer but having the great compassion to put yourself in first place and listen to your body is a sign of great growth. For many of us, even we are falling apart the last thing we is to stop and listen to our bodies. We are fortunate to be breathing and the same time getting wiser. Greetings from Chanhassen, Minnesota

    • @TurquoiseSpiritualAdvice
      @TurquoiseSpiritualAdvice 2 года назад +2

      Find black garlic fermented. I also found this in a honey

    • @kimulm0619
      @kimulm0619 2 года назад +1

      @maspoetry,,look into trying Dr SEBI foodlist.Alhalinw foods,no hybrids fruits or veggies if possible.Put his name in y.t and give it a try,,He was on point.

    • @flashgordon1262
      @flashgordon1262 2 года назад +1

      Good luck mate!

  • @huongquan259
    @huongquan259 2 года назад +51

    Hello from Hanoi, Vietnam. I wish all of you good health!

  • @hagbardc623
    @hagbardc623 2 года назад +27

    What a privilege in hearing such a knowledgeable Taoist teacher and storyteller. Keep finding the great voices who can speak eloquently about the Tao.

  • @uso_Jus2SmooTh94
    @uso_Jus2SmooTh94 2 года назад +10

    As someone who grew up raised a Christian. Not necessarily by choice but through my adulthood after highschool I really fell out of religion. I was just tired of it's hypocrisies and the flaws it created in ppl from most of the world's major religions especially Christianity.
    I have been somewhat an agnostic I believe the term is, still am but lately I have found great interest in Taoism. I'm jus in the baby steps of my journey learning the teachings and this is great insight. Helped a lot. Watched from beginning to the very end :)
    I'm new to this but your videos are great you make it easier for me to understand and learn. Keep up the good work 🙏🏽

  • @p.bhraonain6363
    @p.bhraonain6363 2 года назад +6

    Deng Ming Dao goes to the very heart of the matter.

  • @CiaofCleburne
    @CiaofCleburne Год назад +2

    There is so much truth in the words spoken here. Religion, consumerism, nature. ❤

  • @mariac5942
    @mariac5942 2 года назад +15

    44:54 "Being a person in nature in touch with one's own nature and trusting one's own thoughts and abilities to guide oneself" - That is the radical proposition of Taoism and the best way to live -

  • @casparbrock7441
    @casparbrock7441 2 года назад +11

    Years ago my father suggested I read a book by Deng Ming Dao called 'The Wandering Taoist'. I finally bought it last week along with two subsequent titles now conjoined into one book, 'Chronicles of the Tao'. I haven't read it yet. But today I stumbled across this video with Deng Ming Dao. I'm blown away by the pure reality of his words in this talk. I will be listening to this video again and again and may begin reading the book this evening. I thankyou both for...well...for talking about everything that was said here. 🙏

    • @GillianLarmond
      @GillianLarmond Год назад

      wow

    • @dweller67
      @dweller67 10 месяцев назад

      An all time favorite book(s)! You will love them.

  • @AsisVendrell
    @AsisVendrell 2 года назад +19

    Súper exciting seeing Deng MingDao!His books had a direct influence on my path and in fact my very first attempts to practice some kind of Taoist meditation was by interpreting the technique from the Chronicles of Tao, and that had such an impact on my university-student dizzy mind that made me decide start the way to meet those sages in the Chinese mountains…
    So much gratitude Shifu, sincerely ✨🙏❤️

  • @melodyst.claire5389
    @melodyst.claire5389 2 года назад +4

    🙏Thank you enjoyed your wisdom and presence🌠

  • @sahasananda
    @sahasananda 2 года назад +4

    WOW!!! thank you so much. I have loved his books for decades. I didn't know he was still around teachng.

  • @Way827
    @Way827 2 года назад +4

    I've been reading 365 Tao for years and started Everyday Tao this year. Amazing you got to speak to him.

  • @HolismT
    @HolismT 2 года назад +1

    george is such a smiling, tender, sweetie. very lovely energy. living the dao.

  • @humanity1581
    @humanity1581 2 года назад +2

    I am a reader of Deng Ming Dao books. Y first to see him in person. Thank you for inviting him. I read his books repeatedly and tried to put them in daily practice. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @석문호흡하는사람
    @석문호흡하는사람 2 года назад +2

    Thank you.
    from KOREA.

  • @Katrinagreen5252
    @Katrinagreen5252 2 года назад

    “Making life easier for other people - that way we carry on the tradition” WOW 🤩 🤯

  • @TheBladepolisher
    @TheBladepolisher 8 месяцев назад

    I've been a self proclaimed student of Deng Ming Dao's since he wrote his first three books in the 80's with the Chronicles of Tao collection which gave the biographical account of Master Dao's teacher Kwan Saihung. These remain my favorite books of all time with one copy having gone all the way to India with a friend who was equally impressed with Master Dao's telling of the extraordinary life of Quan Saihung. After reading those books, I bought the Scholar Warrior and I refer back to that book regularly. Apart from the wisdom shared, the Northern Star Chi Kung exercise that Master Tao included in the book is alone a treasured pearl in it's own right. This alone has the power to permanently change ones life and add years of vitality and strength to ones mind and body. What George Thompson and Master Dao have done is to bring the possibility of re-formatting our thought process through the elimination of ego and pre-conceived perceptions of reality and what we would like it to be and exist in a balanced, peaceful existence through virtuous living.
    Thank you George.

  • @bernardofitzpatrick5403
    @bernardofitzpatrick5403 2 года назад +4

    Dude, this is the best best way to spend part of Sunday. So grateful. 🙌🏽🤙🏽 what you do must come out your natural virtue …. ❤️✌🏽yes, yes yes ….just be present for the person. 🙌🏽

  • @ProYagu
    @ProYagu 11 месяцев назад

    I've read his books on and off for years and have recently began reading them again. I've never actually heard him speak, so this was a wonderful surprise. Thank you!.

  • @janelotv1261
    @janelotv1261 2 года назад +4

    Many thanks for this :) Loved the description of Taoism. There is nothing to disagree with, nature is the truth.

  • @domm1341
    @domm1341 2 года назад

    Simplicity is something that keeps coming up, and I’m reminded of that play on words that goes something like - Live simply to simply live.

  • @kanjinha
    @kanjinha 2 года назад +4

    Master’s definition of Virtue ( of the “Te”) is extraordinary, in its simplicity and truest form. Superb knowledge being shared for free. I find this inspiring and can only thank you both. Sat Nam

  • @c.chambers
    @c.chambers Год назад

    Good vibes and prosperity to all on the path of finding the truth of Self in the Tao and the Tao in the self.

  • @jamesglover4677
    @jamesglover4677 2 года назад +2

    George & Deng Ming Dao, this was one of the best interviews I have ever seen. I send my love and appreciation.

  • @atticusfinch6038
    @atticusfinch6038 Год назад

    This dude really gets it. His presence exudes it, I’m gonna look more into him

  • @katssketches1118
    @katssketches1118 2 года назад

    Hello , I have read a lot of Edgar cayce over the years he quoted “ he who understands nature walks close with god” also he said “ for life as it manifests, weather in the grass, the rose, the tree, the dog, the cat, the bird, the animal, IS the manifestation of that ye worship as God”

  • @gabrielofficial7859
    @gabrielofficial7859 2 года назад +3

    Love your channel you inspired me to go to eastern asia studies in university 😊🙏

  • @johnc1190
    @johnc1190 2 года назад +2

    Thank you both. Really enjoyed this discussion. I am new to Taoism so my next stop is purchasing 365 Tao.

  • @ZsuzsannaSpiry
    @ZsuzsannaSpiry 2 года назад +2

    Now, I'll have to watch this video at least ten times because I don't want to miss any of the pearls you have been speaking about. Thinking about the pair of opposite as unity is just amazing! Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @taichivermont
    @taichivermont 2 года назад +2

    Wonderful. You provided an excellent space for him to be able to share his teachings. Thank you both

  • @thecodysnowofficial
    @thecodysnowofficial 2 года назад +3

    What a beautiful affirmation of how true this is! I have found the video only an hour after it was posted. Thank you!

  • @javiergonzalolascano4565
    @javiergonzalolascano4565 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent definition of wu wei 无为!! Thank you George for your videos!

  • @funnymicepacman4457
    @funnymicepacman4457 8 месяцев назад

    thanks for this beautiful talk. i can trust nature

  • @estherchang4174
    @estherchang4174 2 года назад

    We love the Dai teacher ‘s comments about the insights unto nature .

  • @lesliejkf
    @lesliejkf 2 года назад

    I come back here again for reviewing this content with thankfulness in my brain and heart.

  • @suzychristensen8977
    @suzychristensen8977 2 года назад

    Thank you, it is an honor to listen to your words; spoken in a calm manner 😊

  • @GillianLarmond
    @GillianLarmond Год назад

    Listening on repeat

  • @jcwolfe1751
    @jcwolfe1751 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much George for hosting this wonderful talk with Deng Ming Dao.

  • @Beherenow-p5e
    @Beherenow-p5e 7 месяцев назад

    This was truly enlightening and a great joy to listen to. Thank you both for sharing. I have become a great admirer and follower of your Chanel. Love and light to all of my brothers and sisters on this channel ❤❤❤

  • @YiyeZhangExpress
    @YiyeZhangExpress 2 года назад

    So happy to see that you interviwed Deng Ming Dao, Geroge! I absolutely love his Lunar Tao. Thank you both 💓💐🙏🏻

  • @marcgibbs6599
    @marcgibbs6599 2 года назад

    To be present was enough. I’m grateful to have the technology that allows me to avail of these wonderful resources.
    We have such an abundance in life 🙏

  • @rogerjahnke3684
    @rogerjahnke3684 2 года назад +1

    Thrilled to hear this refinement of "virtue" (De). So tired of virtue as a set of socio-religious rules. It is rare to hear this more refined version of virtue. Virtue = being natural, spontaneous -- inherency.

  • @SelfLoveIsKey
    @SelfLoveIsKey 8 месяцев назад

    This interview was very insightful.
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    I loved the way he explained his interpretations. It helped me gain a lot of clarity.
    .
    Thank you for sharing this with the world 🌎🌍🌏 🫂❤.

  • @onebreathwell-being
    @onebreathwell-being 2 года назад +4

    Wow! What a beautiful and inspiring conversation George! Thank you so very much for bringing it to us. Many many years ago I had an interest in Taoism but admit I found it hard to understand. On part, probably because I was trying to study it on my own. I have always had an interest and connection to nature and recently my nature connection is leading me back to taoism and your videos are so precious to my learning. Thank you 💚 💙 🙏🏻🌱

  • @wade4452
    @wade4452 2 года назад

    Watching the rivers flowing in tumbling torrants to the great ocean, sitting quietly doing nothing, nothing is left undone.

  • @mythfancy8271
    @mythfancy8271 2 года назад +4

    This was such an amazing discussion! I remember watching George when he was just traveling to the Wudang Mountains to learn qigong. Daoism makes so much sense and I love how Deng Ming Dao broke down parts of the Tao te ching that have been rather mysterious to me. As a teacher I struggle in the public education system explaining the meaning of learning the content so we can take a test to go to the next thing and go to college and get a job, etc. etc. but I try to weave in Daoist nuggets of wisdom when I can. I hope this video gets millions of views!

    • @johannkiefersauer3137
      @johannkiefersauer3137 Год назад

      i am also a teacher and struggeling with what you described. i often have the feeling, that out school system is harming the children and the people who work in it. i wish you all the best and a lot of strength!

    • @vishun2inspire
      @vishun2inspire 6 месяцев назад

      As a teacher of 20 years I struggle with the educational system constantly. The system killed creativity. It’s all about passing a test and so many don’t pass no matter how much the teacher helps the student. There’s more to life than passing a test. Yet these students leave feeling as a failure. It breaks my heart every time.

  • @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530
    @wiser.kinder.calmer.6530 2 года назад +7

    Great conversation. I started my spiritual journey with Daoism, over the last 6 months or so have been diving deep into Buddhism.
    I have found many of the core principles are the same. Nearly all of the cocpets that attracted me to Doaism I have found, in some form, in Buddhism. Even if we look at the definition of the Dao as movement, it falls perfectly in line with Buddhisms understand of constant change (impermanence).
    I find that The Dao De Jing, The Zhangzi, Liezi's writing are all full of wisdom and insight. Reading them definitely gave me an intellectual understanding of what they meant but to actually live life by that understanding is hard. Take Zhuangzi's teaching that names are just the labels we give things not the true nature of the thing. I totally agree with that on an intellectual level but how do I gain that insight so I can live like that?
    This is where Buddhism has really helped me. If we look at Sutras such as “The full Awareness of Breathing”, “Four Establishments of Mindfulness”, “The Diamond that Cuts Through Illusion Sutra” or “The Heart Sutra” (along with their commentaries) we can really see a road map on how to realize and gain our own insight into interbeing, interdependence, co-arising and the true nature of all things.
    Just my take, but sometimes it seems Daoism puts the ideas out there, Buddhism gives us a path to gain our own insight into those ideas.
    Any thoughts?

    • @Chase_Istre
      @Chase_Istre 2 года назад +2

      I highly agree. Buddhism helped me majorly and for me it was kind of the opposite. I started deep in Buddhism and pick up pieces from Taoism that help my practice. But indeed so those sutras are awesome and useful. Master Sheng Yen’s book on his commentary on the heart sutra is quite helpful in many aspects.

  • @kroneexe
    @kroneexe 2 года назад

    You are such a radiant human, George. You always give off good and safe vibes. I wish I was more like you.

  • @irmas-music
    @irmas-music 2 года назад

    Thank you, very insightful, Mr. Tao you are very impressive . Thank you.

  • @brianrobinson1234
    @brianrobinson1234 2 года назад

    Thank you very much. I wish you both good fortune always.

  • @dangood8839
    @dangood8839 2 года назад

    Thanks for this conversation both, very edifying and positively charged. This conversation resonates with me. I'm in the process of removing concrete from my garden and returning the area into a vegetable and flower patch. Even though the work is hard it makes me smile to think what will become a place where many things will thrive.
    Life supporting life

  • @PeachesCourage
    @PeachesCourage 2 года назад +1

    I remember my Son who was so happy to just be here A picture of him coming into a room when family was there and happy looking around Someone took this picture and you miss them because sometimes being is not non-being Everyone had to tell you how etc and my sweet Son was confused and this dear God brings Only sadness So I think why we sometimes feel the sadness from pictures we were

  • @margit6521
    @margit6521 2 года назад +1

    Thank you both for this great discussion.

  • @stefanhuna641
    @stefanhuna641 8 месяцев назад

    Deep and beautiful thoughts. Thanks.

  • @euclidofalexandria3786
    @euclidofalexandria3786 Год назад

    52 min. yes its like controlling an event space, and letting things manifest naturally, there is a difference in the cadence of manifestation under the two regiemes, the two types of power.

  • @christinagarneysnaturalmys9738
    @christinagarneysnaturalmys9738 2 года назад

    Bless to George and master .yes I found watching my kitten.she found a place in the house. Did not come out until she felt safe.where she was born she was surrounded by sound my 6 young grandchildren. Now its only me. Its been 11 weeks since her birth. April loves me so much she gives me so much love I feel emotional at times. Its a blessing.. April still is not sure of other but slowly she is getting used to as long as can sit on my lap or shoulder. So that is venture. Action movement meditation. Breathing is a must the is our life and after life never dies it just grows .like hairs fall out so do we there is always away in like there is open and close so your palms together from ur chest to forehead then up to the air open and receive or universal bless here on mother earth. And love yourself as u love nature. Breath and stay blessed. Christina XXX

  • @josuefernandez6309
    @josuefernandez6309 2 года назад

    Master describes perfectly the nature's cycle, but the problem in human being is their mind, the illusion of Self, so we need to practice until we synchronize againg with our true nature and whole Universe. "Practice" is always the Way, if not, all this, ends on useless philosophy. Blessings All

  • @thisisinvictus
    @thisisinvictus 2 года назад +6

    Amazing George, thank you for the content brother❤

  • @sherylgergen6672
    @sherylgergen6672 2 года назад +1

    Very insightful discussion. It was a fresh drink of water! Thank you to the both of you!

  • @alwayscuriousalwayslearnin
    @alwayscuriousalwayslearnin 2 года назад

    rewatching this and I chuckled when I hear the simplicity of these teachings, hehe Obersrving nature, yes but being truthful inside yourself while observing nature is also important meaning if a person is truthful inside they will feel and sense the understanding. if that makes any sense to others I am not sure but to myself it does.

  • @daniellunden7237
    @daniellunden7237 2 года назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much

  • @peterkornos8749
    @peterkornos8749 Год назад

    Thank You

  • @robin4999
    @robin4999 2 года назад +2

    Yet another beautiful talk George! Thank you for sharing this. :)

  • @bjb9341
    @bjb9341 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for such an inspirational talk. I loved it so much and it has touched me deeply, specially the part near the end when you talked about being present and just being there for someone when that's all you can do. Thank you so much for this talk, look forward to your videos. Kind regards.

  • @timelessperspective
    @timelessperspective 2 года назад +3

    Taoism is very unique in the idea of collapsing dualistic thinking. The ONLY other religion that does this is Eastern Orthodoxy. It's ingrained in their idea of the trinity, which is different from the protestant and pentecostal idea of the trinity. Orthodox theology has an extremely strong philosophical component that is similar to Taoism.

  • @jaimebrooks51
    @jaimebrooks51 2 года назад

    Thank you for creating this beautiful conversation! So much inspiration & gratitude for this wisdom. 🙏🥰

  • @Mauitaoist
    @Mauitaoist Год назад

    Thank you and Aloha from Maui

  • @danmaertens7872
    @danmaertens7872 2 года назад +1

    Excellent! Thank you for sharing these ideas!

  • @traceysheneman8652
    @traceysheneman8652 Год назад

    The Way is the Way. My way is not the Way. The more I insist on my way the more I lose sight of the Way. The Way is inconstant; I crave constancy and stability. My craving creates chaos and harm.

  • @amanda.strutt
    @amanda.strutt 2 года назад +3

    That was so lovely, thank you to the both of you!

  • @normalizedaudio2481
    @normalizedaudio2481 2 года назад +2

    You can follow the water up to where it comes from. Look for the rock with fresh water coming out from it.

  • @traceysheneman8652
    @traceysheneman8652 Год назад

    Wonderful conversation. Thank you. 👍

  • @scottfishkind5335
    @scottfishkind5335 2 года назад

    Thank you for this! I just ordered 365 Tao thanks to this wonderful conversation.
    I am looking forward to exploring and deepening my understanding and practice through this wonderful teacher's writing.☀️☯️
    Likewise I was first introduced to Derek Lin during one of your videos, when you mentioned in passing that you used his translation of the Tao Te Ching.
    The wisdom in his books, which I have also gifted to several friends, has been so helpful on my own journey as a Tao cultivator.
    The Tao Of Joy Every Day is one of my favorites.

  • @flashgordon1262
    @flashgordon1262 2 года назад

    LOVE this fellows book!

  • @juergenkarg8483
    @juergenkarg8483 Год назад

    Thank you George for everything you are posting on this channel! Greetings from Germany 😊

  • @johnryan4104
    @johnryan4104 Год назад

    Thank you so much for sharing i was glued on every word and enjoyed it all fantastic. 💜😊🙏🎶☯️☮️🎇

  • @tobinharris8107
    @tobinharris8107 2 года назад

    This was great; thanks for exposing us to this wise soul!

  • @myronarnold5939
    @myronarnold5939 2 года назад +1

    This was simply very very nice. Thank you both.

  • @kevgoes
    @kevgoes 8 месяцев назад

    This was a wonderful, insightful discussion. Thank you for making this video George!

  • @melissaqualls5774
    @melissaqualls5774 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful Discussion!

  • @Thefunksoulbro
    @Thefunksoulbro 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing Graham, I heard you mention your mental health journey. I would argue that there is such a thing as mental health. As we are all unique beings. Hance there is no such thing as normal. It's just that society likes to label. Just my , or my egos view.

  • @cl8693
    @cl8693 Год назад

    I just finished the Chronicles of Tao. Didn’t even know you had a video with him. Amazing 😀

  • @troyteague9514
    @troyteague9514 2 года назад

    Very good talk. The philosophy of Tao is or seems to hold the possibility of being life changing. I’m fairly new to this but have found it to bring understanding and peace. Thank you for your work.

  • @gacaniso
    @gacaniso 2 года назад +1

    Thank you George and Ming Dao! This was an excellent conversation . I just ordered a couple of books by Deng Ming Dao!

  • @bridgetnielsen7379
    @bridgetnielsen7379 2 года назад

    Wow! Thank you.

  • @christinagarneysnaturalmys9738
    @christinagarneysnaturalmys9738 2 года назад

    Bless George thank for opening up part of your life.it too has incouraged me to comment more than I have before.I think the reason for that it took me back to my Son's dream of being in the jungle and forests,and you did in away that he would have love he still says one day.he is only 36 so a life time awaits .
    I believe there is all ways a re.turn .re is is all ways coming back to self. Karma will all ways be what goes in will always come out or return .life is a mystic energy. It grows with time like the energy life form the sun is the sun of the universe life rest and sleep as the sky gets dark the stars way beyond you may not all ways see the but they see you all lives nature has eyes and was and if you listen to the day and night air wild it gently. And be be wild but stay calm . a picked flower will only stay fresh 4 awhile if will whether and fade and the dry and crumble. Everything has is season. There is a reason.. That's why any word that start with en.it means end to me. That's why I say inner stand .other wise I justen I don't think I have heard I don't take it to understand ing as I am not under anything aparwhen I am under cover. When I sleep or cloth my self . only the roof that covers my family head. Love so please don't end what u are doing take it to a ripe old age and when the fruit falls if goes back to mother nature. Oh boy I never knew until I started making comments it started on sci- phsy on utube. I have not gone there for long time
    I might just go back to see what science as to say catch u later. I am still in the middle of watching Master ding and yourself one love. Christina

  • @freedafurn3451
    @freedafurn3451 2 года назад

    Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @freedafurn3451
    @freedafurn3451 2 года назад

    Our presence is pre_sent

  • @seanmacleod1724
    @seanmacleod1724 Год назад

    Very good video, thank you for this. 🙏

  • @teveson8256
    @teveson8256 2 года назад

    An excellent conversation - thank you both

  • @michaelmorris2623
    @michaelmorris2623 2 года назад +4

    G'day Mate, throw another shrimp on the Barby 🤠

  • @livefreeallways
    @livefreeallways 2 года назад

    Thank-you.

  • @tile-maker4962
    @tile-maker4962 2 года назад +1

    Can you ask about the concept of "Fan", returning? I would really like to know.

  • @Taek120
    @Taek120 2 года назад

    This conversation has been incredibly useful to me. Thank you.

  • @Brendan-Grant
    @Brendan-Grant 2 года назад +1

    This was fantastic to listen to!

  • @jallen911
    @jallen911 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video

  • @sanqingtemple6404
    @sanqingtemple6404 2 года назад

    Well done.

  • @marksavoia3687
    @marksavoia3687 2 года назад

    And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
    Mark 4:39

  • @bilboblaggins7659
    @bilboblaggins7659 2 года назад

    Great interview, wonderful.