Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Brazing a Cracked Cast Iron Goldens’ Mill Top Plate

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  • Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Brazing a Cracked Cast Iron Goldens’ Mill Top Plate
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  • @erickieffer8440
    @erickieffer8440 Год назад +2

    Nice work, I like brazing for cast iron repairs too.

  • @Spaceman_spliff
    @Spaceman_spliff Месяц назад

    I have learned so much from you, thank you for everything you’ve done, are doing, and will do!

  • @johndunning9964
    @johndunning9964 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much, Keith - really enjoy all of your videos.

  • @cyclebuster
    @cyclebuster Год назад +5

    Good repair! My dad had a welding degree from Ferris State, Still one of the top schools for welding to this day. He taught me that you move the flame in an oval pattern, drawing heat away from the rod, and the torch never stops moving. And FWIW i can braze anything with good results. Excellent video.

  • @billwentworth3108
    @billwentworth3108 Год назад +1

    Keith you are an amazing teacher and I love to watch your videos and *hopefully* learn something. I really appreciate your passion for restoring and repairing old machines.
    Good show!

  • @taranson3057
    @taranson3057 Год назад +5

    I really enjoy watching repairs like this being done. I really enjoy seeing old things brought back to life and put into service.

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Год назад +11

    Hi Keith, I'll bet you have an oven for this. I have used my BBQ Grill to heat up metals for doing repairs. Doesn't get the metal red hot but hot enough to prevent stress cracks when brazing. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johncolvin2561
    @johncolvin2561 Год назад +4

    Chattanooga Plow was bought by International Harvester, and International Harvester made those mills until at least the late 1930s.

  • @billnoren
    @billnoren Год назад +3

    Keith, thanks for another great video. What I especially appreciate is your commentary as you’re going through the process. I learn quite a bit from what you do.

  • @DH-ds5mg
    @DH-ds5mg Год назад +5

    Loved the video. Good repair. 2nd blanket on the way.

  • @johntom5416
    @johntom5416 Год назад +3

    I can show you how to do cast iron welding, as you described, in a true welding process with cast iron rod so that it doesn't have the brittleness in the weld area you spoke of. I worked in a welding shop where cast iron welding was our speciality, so I have quite a bit of experience with both cast iron welding and brazing of cast iron!

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 Год назад

      Preheat to 800f and most cast won’t have a brittle weld zone.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @johncatt1867
    @johncatt1867 Год назад +1

    Mr. Kieth, great repair on this part. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all.
    Was wondering when the next video on the Jimmy Diresto bandsaw will be?

  • @smitm108
    @smitm108 Год назад +2

    Maybe cosmetically cleanup, paint & detail the Chattanooga Mill and sell it as a “wall hanger” with the proceeds going towards a more restorable mill?…

  • @mduvigneaud
    @mduvigneaud Год назад +2

    Keith, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! One of the other Keiths also does brazing for cast iron repair.

  • @thisolesignguy2733
    @thisolesignguy2733 Год назад +1

    nicely done. I just replaced a cast iron sign post that was welded together. It split completely because is was welded together and not braised. I trust braising for cast iron, it's just like soldering.

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Год назад

    thanks KEITH

  • @richardsurber8226
    @richardsurber8226 Год назад

    Well I agree with the fellow there just previous MartelDuV said it just fine for me. Thanks Keith

  • @johnvanantwerp2791
    @johnvanantwerp2791 Год назад +2

    We've had braze fixes on our farm equipment that has lasted 50 years or more. They are very strong repairs

  • @zinckensteel
    @zinckensteel Год назад

    You could easily do a Hank Hill impression, "propane and propane torch accessories.." I loved this video; thank you. Brazing is something that has been quite hit and miss for me; sometimes it works just the way I hope, other times everything goes to heck..

  • @scottjones7279
    @scottjones7279 Год назад +1

    Golden is still in business I bought one of their egg shaped cast iron grills about 4½ years ago.

  • @craignelson6113
    @craignelson6113 Год назад

    Very nice job on that casting repair.
    Just a note. By looking it's hard know the size of your acetylene tank or rose bud but it's worth mentioning because acetylene becomes unstable when the flow rate is exceeded and becomes very dangerous. In other words the more flow the bigger the size of the acetylene tank needed and rose buds really draw the flow. I only mention this as it is something that can be very easily over looked by anyone and end up being catastrophic. I don't have the flow specs in front off me but it is definitely worth looking up. I enjoy your interesting videos. . . . and learn things along the way!

  • @Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
    @Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes Год назад +1

    On big stuff like that, I always wrap it up with a WELDING blanket that wont catch on fire, and then after it's all covered one layer, I wrap it heavily in Old Comforters from Good Will or Salvation Army and let it cool slow over night - welding blankets dont always hold the heat like you'd want

  • @tomscott4723
    @tomscott4723 Год назад +4

    Its amazing how much heat you have to put into cast to get the brass to run. I was researching how to braze cast and ran across a guy using a cutting tip and thought that is crazy, until I started, it worked really well for me too!

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab Год назад +7

    Keith, you might want to get an old propane or electric oven to preheat things with in the shop. If you ever got into powder coating, it would suit for that as well for smaller items.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Год назад

    thanks for sharing! i have heard that pop sound before in the past!

  • @calvincheney7405
    @calvincheney7405 Год назад

    Thank you for passing on this knowledge Mr Rucker. It's a darn shame businesses don't create things that last anymore & resurrecting the really old equipment might be our only recourse when technology fails~

  • @ritaloy8338
    @ritaloy8338 Год назад +3

    Sad that the Chattanooga Mill may not be restored.

  • @kenbarnes8958
    @kenbarnes8958 Год назад +3

    When I was 12, I painted my motor scooter and baked on some of the paint in my mon's oven. Like your wife she didn't appreciate that very much either. Believe me, I never did that again.

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 Год назад +1

    I was waiting for the pop. Maybe heating it in an oven it might not have cracked to the edge. But more than likely it would have. I did a braze repair on a casting and postage stamped a bunch of holes to control where the crack would go. Worked really well.

  • @mapp0v0
    @mapp0v0 Год назад +1

    If you haven't got the gear to do brazing and the broken thing is going to be trashed it is worth while to try stick welding. Sometimes it works.

  • @PhilG999
    @PhilG999 Год назад +2

    Yep. Drilling the hole eliminates the stress concentration, or "stress riser" as it was called. 😁

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino Год назад

    Well done Keith.. my wife is also oven use prohibited.. Girls! what can you say.. Such a fun way to spend part of my days. thanks my friend.. I appreciate you a lot..

  • @randelljones4002
    @randelljones4002 Год назад

    For your consideration Keith, I use an LP Gas fuel weed burner for preheating cast iron for braseing repairs. I start on the low setting and then up it to the higher burn temp. Gas is cheaper and I feel the broad tip gives a broader heat spot to stop cracking. It works try it.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung Год назад

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 Год назад +3

    When I was an engineer in the merchant navy we used to drill just past the end of a crack, but the longer the crack was, the larger the diameter of the drill we used. The circumference of the drill would just touch the end of the crack. We also used dye pen testing to really see how far it extended. If you used a drill dia that was too small the crack would probably propogate on again and might totally change direction. I'm sorry but after 35 years I can no longer remember the calculation for the size of drill for length of crack for the material to be repaired.

  • @jonscott8843
    @jonscott8843 Год назад +4

    Can't Understand your wife's attitute to heating parts in the kitchen oven! (LOL)

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Год назад

      Biscuits with a cast iron flavor is definitely an acquired taste.

    • @ydonl
      @ydonl Год назад

      Okay, then... barbecue pit!

    • @daveh7945
      @daveh7945 Год назад

      @@ellieprice363 i love my biscuits baked in cast iron

  • @danielrichter465
    @danielrichter465 Год назад +45

    I don’t know who needs to hear this but this is an amazing video and I enjoyed every bit of it and I am also excited to share my investment experience so far this year, I believe it will help a lot of people here that are confused on how to start the year and be productive for the year.

    • @danielrichter465
      @danielrichter465 Год назад +3

      From my own point of view, you need to invest smartly if you need the good things of life. so far i've made over $255k in raw profits from just 6 months into the market from my diversified portfolio strategy and i believe anyone can do it you have the right strategy, mutual funds takes long time but investing smartly is the key for short term. Most of us tend to pay more attention to the shiniest position in the market to the cost of proper diversification.

    • @danielrichter465
      @danielrichter465 Год назад +4

      My portfolio is very much diversified so it's not like i have a particular fund i invest in, plus i dont do that by myself. i follow the trades of Mrs Diana Lynn Fusco. She is a popular broker you might have heard of. I can correctly say she's worth her salt as a financial advisor as her diversification skills are top notch, because i see that in her results as my portfolio grows by averages of 10 to 15% on a monthly basis, unlike i can say for my IRA which has just been trudging along, my portfolio just mirrors what she trades and not just on some particular industries of my choosing.

    • @danielrichter465
      @danielrichter465 Год назад +1

      Yes, exactly. It's all programmatic and automated, plus it's relatively much easier to set up and connect my accounts than creating a financial plan and drafting investment strategies myself, my account just mirrors her trades in realtime.

    • @sophiablakes
      @sophiablakes Год назад

      @@danielrichter465 How can one find and reach her, if it is possible?

    • @danielrichter465
      @danielrichter465 Год назад +6

      @@sophiablakes Yes it is possible, make your own research and look her name up online and send her a message, she is popular for her 17 years of service as she is always featured on Bloomberg.

  • @tubalcain1
    @tubalcain1 Год назад +2

    Did i miss something??? What ever happened to the Jimmy Diresta and stoker engine projects???

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад +1

      Well,mother bandsaw isn’t in the shop anymore so it’s probably up to Diresta to show the finished paint job and final assembly on it.
      I thought Keith was working on the horizontal boring machine so he could machine the stoker engine? We might never know!

    • @tubalcain1
      @tubalcain1 Год назад +1

      @@Hoaxer51 Thanks Tim... hopefully we here an update from Keith soon..

    • @katelights
      @katelights Год назад

      keith doesn't really do one big project at a time. sometimes other stuff takes priority.

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Год назад

    GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO...

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr Год назад

    Mr. Murphy is watching you!

  • @keithgutshall9559
    @keithgutshall9559 Год назад +1

    If you use the kitchen oven,It gives the cookies a funny taste.

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад

      Can’t have that, I need my Christmas cookies to taste good!

    • @bobhudson6659
      @bobhudson6659 Год назад

      Also the missus may add some other "goodies" to your food that could cause you to regret using her oven in the first place.

  • @garybeasley4885
    @garybeasley4885 Год назад +3

    Sounds like you need to find a kitchen stove you can wire up in the shop for brazing projects like that.

  • @dariorodriguez7157
    @dariorodriguez7157 Год назад

    great work...excellent Keith. Learning a lot...thanks From Buenos Aires, Argentina.

  • @mikebaldwin4220
    @mikebaldwin4220 Год назад

    Always good to see someone using a torch to weld ,It’s great to see an old art used…..

  • @cavisco
    @cavisco Год назад +1

    Those domestic machines are very useful. A dishwasher does a fine job of cleaning up engine internals before a rebuiltd

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 Год назад

      We had an office guy come in on the weekend and clean a carburetor in the shop's big ultrasonic cleaner. It was for electronics and used heated trichloroethane (which I think is illegal now) as the solvent. In the process of cleaning his carb, he ruined over a thousand dollars worth of filters and several hundred dollars worth of solvent. On top of that, he cost the shop quite a few hours of delay and labor in cleaning up the cleaner.

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray Год назад +1

    LOVE watching you braze. You are are real master!

  • @yosmith1
    @yosmith1 Год назад

    I never got the brazing technique down, but will agree, it's very strong method. I think a lot of people that doubt brazing have probably not done it correctly..

  • @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039
    @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039 Год назад

    Notification by the sandblasting contractor of the existence of the obvious crack prior to priming would have been downright gentlemanly.

    • @truckguy6666
      @truckguy6666 Год назад

      Well you either grind off the primer, or grind off the rust. Ida just had them prime it.

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад

      They might not have seen it until it was primed.

  • @redmonarocv8
    @redmonarocv8 Год назад

    Great job Keith.

  • @Dieselfitter01
    @Dieselfitter01 Год назад

    Beautiful work. Thank you.

  • @frankmora8336
    @frankmora8336 Год назад +3

    I got a question Keith. Being that you heated the whole piece up, when you flipped it over to work on other side. Did you have to reheat the whole piece again? Or it had cooled enough to be able to handle flipping over. I plan on brazing a large piece also.

  • @truckguy6666
    @truckguy6666 Год назад +2

    Nice job. I think your brazing is as good as if not better than Aboms :) Pretty awesome how much energy was stored up in that casting before it broke the rest of the way out.

  • @techmarine83
    @techmarine83 Год назад

    19:18 another day eh? Same outfit.

  • @The_HillPeople
    @The_HillPeople Год назад

    "Leaving a little evidence of repair for the next guy". I like that.

  • @scottjones7279
    @scottjones7279 Год назад

    Mr pete would not ask the wife he would just wait until she went shopping. 😂

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Год назад

    Nice!! 🙂

  • @frankpiazza953
    @frankpiazza953 9 месяцев назад

    Keith, can braising be used to repair a structural or stress areas?

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql Год назад

    amazing👍👍👌👌

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun1 Год назад +1

    I wonder where Keith would put an oven in his shop if he got one for cheap. Maybe a professional one on a stand of sorts so he could move it around or put it outside to heat up when in use. Seems like he's had to use an oven for medium-size part heating multiple times through the years.

    • @Farm_fab
      @Farm_fab Год назад

      He could put it on casters, and store it under his welding table when not used.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing. Fantastic repair. Enjoyed.👍👀

  • @ruben_balea
    @ruben_balea Год назад +1

    Aside from altering the original design, is there any other reason against machining the old bronze bearings and using babbit to rebuild them?

  • @hodwooker5584
    @hodwooker5584 Год назад

    It looks like he could use a big bag of perlite or some wood ash to bury the casting in.

  • @buckburton7318
    @buckburton7318 Год назад

    Great job as always

  • @peggysweigart5069
    @peggysweigart5069 Год назад +2

    Hey Keith great job. Where did you get your heat blanket?

  • @Steve_Just_Steve
    @Steve_Just_Steve Год назад +5

    Do you ever use dye penetrant to check for and find the end of cracks? It's so cheap and the results usually surprise you.

    • @alandaters8547
      @alandaters8547 Год назад

      That's what I was thinking too, although in this case I guess that it wouldn't have helped as it cracked anyway.

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 Год назад +1

    Why would you need to cast bronze bushings? Why not machine them from hollow barstock?

    • @johnsherborne3245
      @johnsherborne3245 Год назад +1

      Have you seen the price of Bronze stock? You end up throwing a lot away.

    • @johncolvin2561
      @johncolvin2561 Год назад

      @@johnsherborne3245 Not if one selects the bronze stock properly.

    • @johnsherborne3245
      @johnsherborne3245 Год назад

      @@johncolvin2561 I think you have better suppliers available.

    • @johncolvin2561
      @johncolvin2561 Год назад

      @@johnsherborne3245 McMaster-Carr

    • @johncolvin2561
      @johncolvin2561 Год назад

      @@johnsherborne3245 When I make a bronze bushing, I buy thick wall tubing that can be machined to size without removing too much bronze.

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Год назад +2

    Looks great! Do you ever get any of the syrup after fixing these?

  • @ElmerJFudd-oi9kj
    @ElmerJFudd-oi9kj Год назад

    Would brazing resist a coal fire on top as under a steam boiler?

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 Год назад +1

    0- 4:45- " There were too many things wrong with the one mill and the customer did not want to spend the money to restore it."

  • @royowings3435
    @royowings3435 Год назад +1

    I was a logging contractor for a time and my wife was quite hesitant to let me use her oven to warm my leather "White" boots for waterproofing them.🙂

  • @scottthomas5999
    @scottthomas5999 Год назад

    Nice repair.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @aintnobitchms
    @aintnobitchms Год назад

    liked for algorithm

  • @garthbutton699
    @garthbutton699 Год назад +1

    👍

  • @steveheld8869
    @steveheld8869 Год назад

    Keith, i have always been told that you need to bury welded or brazed cast Iron in preheated sand. what do you think about that?

  • @richardcorcoran1151
    @richardcorcoran1151 Год назад

    Apparently, you got the series out of the order, I didn't see the one before this.

    • @zenmaster76
      @zenmaster76 Год назад +2

      The previous video was posted on September 16th

    • @MrPossumeyes
      @MrPossumeyes Год назад

      I saw it too.

  • @charliemacrae1045
    @charliemacrae1045 Год назад

    I didn’t get the impression you didn’t like the mill.
    I understood you were fighting it’s poor condition

  • @paulteirney3587
    @paulteirney3587 Год назад

    When I used to do brazing of cast iron I would start heating like you but where the area of the crack was vee out I would sprinkle brazing flux into the vee to help stop the oxidising as you heat the cast iron also helps the brazing rod to flow easier.

  • @melshea2519
    @melshea2519 Год назад +1

    987th👍

  • @jebowlin3879
    @jebowlin3879 Год назад

    I have noticed that the same people that bad mouth repairs are the same people abusing the equipment beyond specified use, that being said, I dont know many people that bad mouth repairs

  • @0725thebub
    @0725thebub Год назад

    Please fix your mic. The audio goes in and out

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab Год назад +4

    The flux on brazing rods is borax. Back in the days when I took welding in trade school, our instructor told us that this coating could be purchased in a powder form from a welding supply, and for ferrous metal, laundry borax was most adequate. I've used Boraxo, and it did, in fact, work most satisfactorily. At one point, I had gotten some scrap (cheap) grandfather clock pendulums, and disassembled them for the brass rods that were in them. These were adequate for brazing rods.

    • @kurtarmbrust
      @kurtarmbrust Год назад +1

      I have a big box of laundry borax I bought 40 years ago and have used it to flux my gold lost wax castings. The box is gone but I still have some of that borax left.

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад

      Bryant Fry, That’s interesting, thanks for the information, sounds like a money saver!

    • @eliduttman315
      @eliduttman315 Год назад

      The zinc in brass vaporizes and that vapor is toxic. Especially if working in a not so well ventilated space, stick to brazing rods known to be free of toxic, volatile, metals.

  • @markmckinley5989
    @markmckinley5989 Год назад

    Shocked that went through the trouble of fixing the crack. I assumed these would just be more of an art piece rather than functional.

    • @katelights
      @katelights Год назад +1

      no, they are being repaired so they can be used.

  • @WesW3187
    @WesW3187 Год назад

    My wife hates it when I degrease stuff in the downstairs basin. Women are strange 😄.

  • @mathewmolk2089
    @mathewmolk2089 Год назад

    Nothing what so ever wrong with brazing if you are not trying to make an undetectable repair but I have said it before we have been repairing antique cast iron items for over 40 years and with very few exceptions we use only gas weld with REAL cast iron rod. Doing it that way pre and post heat is ultra critical,,,,, So what is the high tech way to do i?
    We have a sand pit out back of the shop,,,and we dig a hole about twice the size of the part and get a charcoal fire going in it. - Then you out the part in the pit and cover it with hot burning charcoal and then cover it with fiberglass insulation....(we tru to use foil backed but you can get away with paper.
    One the part is evenly heated to over 1000F we take it out (with a BobCat) and take into the shop and weld it up ; --- Then it''s back into the pit and covered up with more burning charcoal and fiberglass. We put a piece of sheetmetal over it in case of rain and leave it alone till the fire goes out and you can touch it with your bare hands. - Totally machinable and after dixying it up with a grinder and needle scaler or sometimes grit blast it is a totally undetectable repair without paint and every bit as strong as the original part. Like it never happened.
    Sometimes the primitive ways are better then the $50,000 heat treat furnace.
    BYW The ceramic fiber blankets are great,,,,but the way you did it when you get done fiberglass insulation woks too and doesn't cost $3500 a roll. ,,,,and finely, NiRod is for Bob Villas. No real pro would ever even think of using it except for a cheep and dirty repair - with no guarantee other then you pay in full before it leaves the shop.

  • @oleran4569
    @oleran4569 Год назад +1

    Hope everyone knows NOT to respond to the scammer telegram scam that seems to follow every comment here.

    • @cooperised
      @cooperised Год назад +2

      Mind-boggling that RUclips appears to have no interest in counteracting this wave of spam. These comments are so easy to spot, they could implement a spam filter in a heartbeat. I can only assume that they don't want to.

  • @dennisbrooks4742
    @dennisbrooks4742 Год назад

    Sound quality so poor for the last couple of months it is detracting interest in your video's.