Liquid-cooled engines are reportedly easier to set up for high output because they avoid the heat rejection issues that tend to plague high output air cooled engines. BMW only changed over to air cooled aircraft engines because the Nazi government ordered them to do so. Same with Fiat and Mussolini. That is why, despite having the best aircraft engine research facilities in the world, during WW2, the Italians had to resort to licence production of a Daimler liquid cooled engine. If Fiat had been allowed to stay with liquid cooling, the Regia Aeronautica could have had all the high performance engines they needed. I also suspect, that with Fiat’s research facilities, they would have emulated Rolls Royce by using the high pressure cooling system that was a key advantage over the relatively low pressure system used by Daimler Benz.
@@michaelguerin56liquid cooling allows control over temperature over all rev ranges allowing closer tolerance and radical Timing etc. The most power ful engines in ww2 where radial air-cooled , notably the focke wolf 190, they where also more robust and less prone to damage as there was no rads to puncture and three banks of cylinders meant they could loose cylinders and still run unlike water cooled in line engines.
@@pbysome Only when they could get the right fuel and properly built components. Allied trials and postwar trials were conducted with better fuel and components. I suggest that you read The Secret Horsepower Race and watch some of the author’s lectures/discussions that have been posted on RUclips.
The majority of turbo engines back then had relatively low compression. They didn't have the electric aids of today to control things like detonation. We had built a 350 Chevy back then with 7:1 flattops, bronze guides and titanium valves, exhaust wastegate, and water/methanol injection under boost powered by a windshield wiper pump. Turbo engines were so basic back then. I would love to know how much power someone could get out of those 40-year-old motors without changing the block or heads.
Don't all turbo engines have low compression? I mean it's a feature that allows them to operate, at all - I.e. you can't shove twice the fuel and air, I to a high compression (naturally aspirated design). American V8s are another phenomenon altogether, mostly NA, and yet, lower compression than Benz's first engine, back before Ford had even built an engine.
@@Grrrrrrg I think F1 today is limited to 18:1. In 2026, they will be limited to 16:1. Also, the engine inlet air pressure must be less than 4.8 barA at all times.
Great video, and some very cool vintage clips/photos. Of course, it helps that I am a Porsche 911 fan. My absolute favorite sports car ever. I do remember the Lanzante cars, but have never seen one in person. Keep up the great work!
It was not Porsche F1 but McLaren MP4/2 designed by John Bernard and Steve Nichols, two the most capable F1 car designers of all time, second thing, two great drivers, Lauda and Prost, third thing, very good reliability of the whole packet.
What Alain Prost did in '86, to win the title against the superior Williams, deserves more praise than it gets. I don't care what the Senna fans say, it was one of the greatest individual seasons from an F1 driver ever.
If the engines not running then the intake plenum is relative to atmospheric pressure, when the engines running you have a vacuum at the inlet of the intake, the boost pressure is positive pressure, measured relative to vacuum, so absolute or PSIA, I mean I could be wrong but a little bit of Googling should help clear it up
This "TAG-Porsche" 930 1.5l V6 Turbo is truly unicorn ! Never thought about Porsche 911 been using F1 engine before ! But about this F1 1.5l V6 engine put in Porsche 911 is water-cooled engine or same way like Porsche 930 RSR still by Aircooled engine with engine oil cooler support engine ?
I own a TAG turbo valve cover. One of the best looking valve covers ive ever seen on a F1 car. One of the greatest era's in F1!
It's hilarious that Porsche was able to excel so much with a water cooled engine and the 911 was still air cooled.
Yeah it’d be like Harley Davidson running twin cam water cooled motors in racing but giving the public what they give them now
@@POVShotgun For a long time that's what the market wanted. The problem now is everyone who wants a bike like that now has a bike like that.
Liquid-cooled engines are reportedly easier to set up for high output because they avoid the heat rejection issues that tend to plague high output air cooled engines. BMW only changed over to air cooled aircraft engines because the Nazi government ordered them to do so. Same with Fiat and Mussolini. That is why, despite having the best aircraft engine research facilities in the world, during WW2, the Italians had to resort to licence production of a Daimler liquid cooled engine. If Fiat had been allowed to stay with liquid cooling, the Regia Aeronautica could have had all the high performance engines they needed. I also suspect, that with Fiat’s research facilities, they would have emulated Rolls Royce by using the high pressure cooling system that was a key advantage over the relatively low pressure system used by Daimler Benz.
@@michaelguerin56liquid cooling allows control over temperature over all rev ranges allowing closer tolerance and radical Timing etc.
The most power ful engines in ww2 where radial air-cooled , notably the focke wolf 190, they where also more robust and less prone to damage as there was no rads to puncture and three banks of cylinders meant they could loose cylinders and still run unlike water cooled in line engines.
@@pbysome Only when they could get the right fuel and properly built components. Allied trials and postwar trials were conducted with better fuel and components. I suggest that you read The Secret Horsepower Race and watch some of the author’s lectures/discussions that have been posted on RUclips.
The 930 is my favorite car of all-time! Visio never fails to bring interesting videos, I had no idea this engine was a thing!
My pleasure!
1000hp from a 1.5liter engine just what i need for my motorcycle🐱👍🏿
¿are you planning to dig a hole with that as a tool?
I'd be more interested in a 250 hp 750 triple derived from half of the Lanzante 930 engine
@@Xayuap naaaah i intend to clip wings on my 15yr old bandit and fly with 1000hp of thrust! 🐱👍🏿
@@PaulG.x good choice!
dat makes a lot of sense
You have the best Voice in the business. Thank you for not Destroying the case and there Songs.
Collaboration between the sports car maker and the watch maker creates such impressive beast...
I'd not heard of the test cars before. Thank you for telling the story. :)
Nice piece of history that I was completely unaware of. Thank you. Good to be a patron.
Thanks!
Super video, very well imagined subject, very comprehensive research, very well edited and narrated. Great job!
Greetings from Brazil.
Thank you very much!
Great video mate! I had no idea about this
Love your content you share a lot of great specs on these engines thanks 😮
The majority of turbo engines back then had relatively low compression. They didn't have the electric aids of today to control things like detonation. We had built a 350 Chevy back then with 7:1 flattops, bronze guides and titanium valves, exhaust wastegate, and water/methanol injection under boost powered by a windshield wiper pump. Turbo engines were so basic back then. I would love to know how much power someone could get out of those 40-year-old motors without changing the block or heads.
Don't all turbo engines have low compression?
I mean it's a feature that allows them to operate, at all - I.e. you can't shove twice the fuel and air, I to a high compression (naturally aspirated design).
American V8s are another phenomenon altogether, mostly NA, and yet, lower compression than Benz's first engine, back before Ford had even built an engine.
@@Grrrrrrg I think F1 today is limited to 18:1. In 2026, they will be limited to 16:1. Also, the engine inlet air pressure must be less than 4.8 barA at all times.
@@AndyFromBeaverton5,5 bar at 1985.
@@Oberon_Boost But they didn't last very long at that pressure. BMW only went that high in qualifying and put a new block in for the race.
Great video, and some very cool vintage clips/photos. Of course, it helps that I am a Porsche 911 fan. My absolute favorite sports car ever. I do remember the Lanzante cars, but have never seen one in person.
Keep up the great work!
Another good one 👍
2:58 nice boost pressure 🤗
I am guessing you can't get parts for that 930 from Eurocarparts! Great video, as always.
It was not Porsche F1 but McLaren MP4/2 designed by John Bernard and Steve Nichols, two the most capable F1 car designers of all time, second thing, two great drivers, Lauda and Prost, third thing, very good reliability of the whole packet.
The Professor knows what he is driving.
Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴
What Alain Prost did in '86, to win the title against the superior Williams, deserves more praise than it gets. I don't care what the Senna fans say, it was one of the greatest individual seasons from an F1 driver ever.
que maravilha , maravilinda
61k swiss francs seems low for such a rare engine.
2:59 - That's PSIG, not PSIA?
If the engines not running then the intake plenum is relative to atmospheric pressure, when the engines running you have a vacuum at the inlet of the intake, the boost pressure is positive pressure, measured relative to vacuum, so absolute or PSIA, I mean I could be wrong but a little bit of Googling should help clear it up
@@LeapFrog_Radio boost is usually measured in PSIG
Porsche V6 Turbo
A German developed engine with a pair of kkk turbochargers... I'm just saying that's an unfortunate coincidence.
New favorite p car?!?
That v6 sounds so damn good
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The cars Sorry
This "TAG-Porsche" 930 1.5l V6 Turbo is truly unicorn !
Never thought about Porsche 911 been using F1 engine before !
But about this F1 1.5l V6 engine put in Porsche 911 is water-cooled engine or same way like Porsche 930 RSR still by Aircooled engine with engine oil cooler support engine ?