Cessna 152 Radio Navigation Example in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Flying by radio beacons in the Cessna 152 in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. A short flight from San Rafael to Sonoma, north of San Francisco - using radio beacons to navigate, and charting our progress on LittleNavMap (disconnected from the simulator). Looking at the uses of "From" and "To" on the NAV radio instruments. If you would like to come flying with me, visit virtualflight.... :)
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One of the best videos about ILS, thank you
You're welcome :)
incredible what they managed to accomplish using relatively "simple" technology
One of the best radio navigation I have watched on youtube. Very very good explanations. You are the first instructor that made me understand how this works!
Not an instructor - just an enthusiast :)
Best tutorial Jonathan. Nice taking a flight with you and using the VOR, and the ILS systems. Really helped understand it for my flight sim journeys and maybe at some point real life flight journeys.
Really like your calm, methodical style. Thanks for taking the trouble to make and share these videos, I've learned a lot from the three I've seen so far.
Remember I'm learning too :) Just a page ahead in the book sometimes :)
No knowing a bit about flying with the radio beacons was very kool!! Thanks. I m 62 retired and thinking of learning to fly. I have the means of buying a nice plane to get around. It would be nice fly 2 to3 hr in either direction and visit friends and look no 6hr by car.
I like your way you do it. Speaking slowly and clearly also for non-english-speaking people from other countries. You do a great job for the begginers. Thank you.
I would appreciate the same tutorial VOR - ILS also for g1000 and g3000.
Greetings from Slovakia :-)
Thankyou very much! :)
Thank you. This video was a very good tutorial on using VOR as well as an exercise in flight planning.
I don't actually have flight sim yet but I have been watching a ton of videos trying to learn as much as possible. I've learned more from this one video than several of the others I have watched. Great information!
Thankyou!
got mine today, Its way harder than this guy makes it look. !
Great video. IRL When you level off first pitch level with the yoke, throttle back to around 2200rpm then trim as needed.
I am wanting to do some old school flying. Great video. Thank you.
amazing video, one of the best tutorials. On my nav 1, I can't see the change just after take off. I should see the gray arrow "TO" to appear, but nothing happened. Will try to figure it out. Many thanks for the video, I learn so much from you.
Brilliant stuff once again - as a raw beginner I find I am learning such a lot from your videos - now all I need to to is remember!
Regards, Alasdair
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Thanks Jon great tutorial, I have my first real flight in a Cessna 152 end of the month at Wellesbourne airfield end of the month, so this will give me a bit of a head start.
The most practical video I found on the subject.
Another excellent tutorial video Jonathan. I really love these videos I can’t wait to try this out 👍
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
I haven't flown a real C152 for a while but for a shorter field I'd use flaps, hold the brakes push full throttle then start my roll then retract as soon as I'm airborne.
Anyway the video is great and thanks for uploading! :)
Do not retract the flaps until you see a positive rate of climb, and not as soon as you are airborne. (In real life)
Thank you, that really helped, now to find a decent place to get the airport information
So good to see actual flight sim...just what I need. Many just rave on about hardware/setup. Thank you!
Yep - I agree - most people just want to have fun flying - not grandstanding about "ooo look - I've got this plane which is better than your version", or "I've got a graphics card that is more expensive than your car"...
@@jonbeckett Good one about the car price! I was looking at another of your YT on testing 1080p vs the upload of 720p also. Your vids look good to me. I'm coming at this from seeing a FS2020 promotion and wondering if I can follow along on the flights (interested initially in the cool geography, then later maybe some sim flying) w/o over investing in hardware. So far it IS apparent that my desktop is way under powered. That would be a starting point I guess...I do not have the knowledge or inclination to swap-out components though.
Take care...
@@westfork8 The published specs for FS2020 are pretty accurate - I have a PC that's about at the recommended level, and it handles it fine with everything on "Medium".
Hi Jonathan,
It's been a while you posted this, but if you would make a video Erfolgsübung how to use DME, it would be great! Thanks
All DME really is, is "Distance Measuring Equipment" - which you use in collaboration with VOR. If the plane has DME hardware, it will tell you how far away the VOR beacon is. I'll do a quick video to explain.
Excellent tutorials . After watching your videos started using LNM. Thank you
Glad to help - don't forget to subscribe to see my new videos.
You made me investigate best angle of climb! Apparently yes it's no flaps - my intuition didn't give me a clear answer to that because they give you more lift, but also more drag, but 55 knots is speed for best angle of climb
My instructor told me no flaps on paved runway and 1 set of flaps on grass runway
Many thanks for the ride. This was a very useful insight into a use case of VOR and ILS for people like me who got the basics but need to practise to foster it in different scenarios. I like your style too. Regards from Austria.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, i've learned a lot from just 3 of you videos so far. I''m excited to try it out.
Great to hear!
Very well done and thankyou, tried some radio nav out today in a YAk, real hands on stuff.
Very cool!
Absolutely loved this video, super clear and helpful instructions. Waiting on my Xbox series X to arrive
, then I’m trying this out!
Briliiant, the clouds really add to the mystery!
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
This was so helpful, man. Super clear explanation. I sort of understood how to get myself pointed at a VOR, but calculating distance from using another VOR was all new info. Great video for a total nub like me. Thanks!
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Hey Justin, I tried this navigation for the first time today. Worked quite well in terms of tracking my whereabouts although the wind blowing me of course was a bind. Only real problem I had was knowing when to tune the ils. I ended up turning too soon as the direction needle seemed to be not working. As it turned out if I had waited a bit longer it would have come alive. Thanks for this its really helped me understand how to navigate with VOR's It's just a pity that there are so few working. I was flying from Durham Tees Valley to Humberside using the POL VOR to track my progress and the OTR for heading (I hadn't realised that Humberside had one). I shall put in the practice now that I understand the process better. Cheers!
If you're navigating by VOR, and inbetween stations, that's when it's most fun - because you need to start calculating your speed, direction, and drift due to wind - to project where you are on the map inbetween the stations. I'll try and record it for a flight at some point :)
Thank you! That was very helpful. I already did a few successful vor flights but the idea of using nav2 with “from” on a different VOR to locate my position was new to me.
You're welcome :)
Great video Jonathan, as a PPL holder in the UK, there are some nice refreshers for me! I learnt to fly in a Cessna 152 but now fly Piper Warriors. Look forward to more videos from you.
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Excellent excellent video, thanks a lot
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
instablaster...
Best tutorial on VOR and ILS navigation!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to provide it....
Great Tutorial! I haven't used this technique yet, but i will from now on.
ive been thinking of learning to fly (properly) on the flight sim .this has been a great help in my starting to understand instrument's flying .great video really helpful
Adsolutely well explained thx mate
Excellent demonstration! Thanks bud !!
You're welcome!
Great video! Just what I was looking for
Glad I could help!
At last the mystery is solved. Thanks for a great video.
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Nice video. Your oil temp was sure pegged there earlier.
Very interesting. Good training video. Thx a lot.
So interesting. Thank you for this very well done tuto. After flying A320 with clicks only, I wanted to learn what took place when we do not have all the electronic stuff, MCDU and so on. I know better now. Thanks a lot.
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Transfixed. Amazing - thank you.
You're welcome :)
damn! this was so informative. Great job mate!
You're welcome :)
Absolutely brilliant video, have learnt a great deal . Thanks very much.
So very inyteresting for us/me as a simmer
Thanks you explained that very well mate 👍
Well impressed.
Thanks for watching!
Really clear and helpful ..thanks 👍
Hi Jonathan, just a query about the airport you're flying to in this video, the name has changed to Santa Rosa and there is no 113.00 beacon at this airport, just the ils, 109.3, I tried it out as an exercise, but couldn't find the beacon you referred to in your video. Things seem to have changed since doing your excellent video. Just thought you should know, I use navigraph charts and there is no reference to the beacon you mention. Thanks for all your excellent videos, they are very helpful.
Oh, no doubt the details from some of the videos will have changed - particularly if you use navigraph.
Very nicely explained IFR mission. Did you realise your oil temperature was dangerously high?
It took me a while to get it setup - just try the different axis until you get the right one that allows the throttles to go all the way through.
Awesome video thanks for sharing.
Awesome video I look forward to trying radio nav.
Love it More More More !!
Thank you for this!! You rock
Excellent, I really like your tutorials. Thanks.
Another great tutorial, thank you Jonathan 👍👍
Excellent video, explained very well!
Very enjoyabje clear explanations thankyou.
Thank you
You're welcome :)
Awesome video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the vid it was amazing
This video really helped me, but now my main question is how do I navigate, using this method, to an airport which is not also a vor station, from a departure airport which is not in-line with the runway and G/S
Cross reference two VORs. It's more work, but it can be done :) To be honest, all aircraft in the last 20 years have had GPS - so this is more an academic exercise than real-world.
Really great tutorial well done Jonathan
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Grato pela excelente didática! Muito bom!🛩️🛩️🛩️🛩️🛩️
Love it l use 95.98 windowe cheap to buy
Another great one. Thank you.
How do you know what radio to use? For example: You chose 113.70 for Nav 2 - why not use 112.10? It's to the right of the route and it's closer-plus it's also marked with an "L" - so why not use that instead? Just attempting to really understand how do this on my own.
I picked the radio beacons at random - purely for the purposes of describing the method - you can use any radio beacons within range.
@@jonbeckett Thank you! Your channel is great, I appreciate it!
@@patrickhurley7029 If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
@@jonbeckett def interested at some point soon! Ill check out your discord soon as well, thanks!
Very helpful - thank you!
When you are in World Map in MSFS and you choose VOR to VOR, does it add the frequencies of your departure and arrival airports into your airplane NAV automatically or do you need to use a 3rd party maps to find the frequencies and enter them yourself? Sorry, new to all this and trying to figure some things out.
You have to program them yourself. There is a commercial alternative to LittleNavMap called "FS Tramp" that is far more sophisticated, and allows remote control of the aircraft's systems from the mapping software.
great video
Subscribed. Great job!
Hi.
Thanks for the video. I’m thinking of getting the sim as an adjunct to my real flight training.
Do you have any recommendations for the most realistic hardware including a VR headset for me to practice when not in the real thing? Cost is not a problem for me within reason.
Any suggestions gratefully received. Cheers.
Your best bet is to visit virtualflight.online - join the forum there, and ask - there are several real world pilots in the group.
Great video but what if you're coming in from the right or to the left or the runway for your ILS how do you get lined up with the runway and/or head towards the airport
That's where you do some basic trigonometry on the map. If you fly at a given speed, for a given time, on a given heading, you can project where you will be. So even when out of range of beacons or ILS, you can use everything else at your disposal to figure out where you are to a degree of acccuracy. Of course if you have GPS, then you know exactly where you are :)
hiya, noob here So how do you zoom to the compass etc so quickly? i use the mouse button but its Sooooooo slow, and I can't find an option to speed it up. love your content its really helping
Very informative but you need to do it in 1080 P at least so we can see it better✈️
Yeah - the computer I have only has an 980 graphics card - it can't record 1080p as well as run MSFS without major stuttering.
I can't get the nav 1 to become active. What am I doing wrong? I have it on 113.00 and on active or "use"
Were you in range of the VOR station ? It may not work on the ground - radio tends to be line of sight.
@@jonbeckett OK cool. I just saw that in your video you got contact immediately. (I tried the exact same airports as in your video) Maybe something has changed since you did that video.
I'm not quite sure what's happening for me, but I have recently started to play on the Xbox with a Thrustmaster and been loving it.
But, in the Cessna 152, I cannot seem to get my VOR? Or this radio frequency function, to work right?
I am trying to go from West Midlands to East Midlands to Wolverhampton via this VOR for navigation.
I set my Nav 1 to 109.350 for EastM and Nav 2 to 108.600 for Wolv and get the Morse Response. But nothing changes when I spin the dial to find headings. I have slowly gone all the way round 360° and the line never moves from being top left of the Nav ball.
Any help? or is this simply not functioning on console as intended?
Where did you get 109.350 from? East Midlands is an NDB (non directional beacon) - not a VOR. Wolverhampton is DME only (distance measuring equipment) - not a VOR. That's why you can't tune the NAV radio into them and see radials.
@@jonbeckett maybe a confusion on my end. I'm not sure I found the Birmingham and Wolverhampton through a quick search on phone and same with East Midlands.
This explains alot it being NDB, DME.
Thanks for the help. I am really new this side of Aviation. 👍
I've had my play arounds War Thunder but never a sim like this or DCS etc
@@cluelessgod97 we all start somewhere :) There's always something new to learn - which is what interests me :)
@@jonbeckett indeed lol.
I was mostly dumbfounded at how much I will have to wrap my head around things.
I got chuffed starting my 152 from Taxi without assists and getting used to the Comms system and manually using it.
I jump into the F-18 to try the Maverick challenges and I browse the buttons inside cockpit and laughed at how chuffed I felt in the Cessna Haha!
But, looks like I have stumbled across the goldmine as your videos are helping me a lot. So thank you 🤘
How do you use aileron trim
I mapped it to the hat switch in the control configuration. There are a LOT of controls that are not mapped.
Jonathan, where did you get your map and how can I get it
LittleNavMap - it's free - just search for it.
Great tutorial!
If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Can someone please help me, I've done a couple flights using only VOR navigation however the TO/FROM flags never show up
Which plane ? Not all NAV radios have them.
@@jonbeckett cessna 152, I researched it and it seems to be a bug that only occurs when you start the flight without the engine automatically on... pain 😔
what was your flaps setting? also the approach speed was highly inaccurate its supossed to be 60kts for flaps 30
also there is no approach speed 10 kts more than the stall speed what if you encounter a sudden gust on finals those 10kts wont be there👍
This was recorded quite some time ago - MSFS is getting more accurate, with each update that arrives - give it another few months, and it might be somewhere near :)
@@jonbeckett I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE SIM'S ACCURACY BUT RATHER YOURS AS MENTIONED THERE IS NO APPROACH SPEED KNOWN AS 10KTS CLEAR OF THE STALL SPEED
@@ALPHAAVIATOR CALM DOWN! lol
I didn't understand how it suddenly started to keep track of you vertical position on the upper vor instrument, is there a button for the plane to understand it's tracking ils angle?
Btw, when you say frequency, it's actually the angles right? So I can print out some charts and make the angles on my own to say for example, I will start when second VOR shows 100 degrees from reference to me, 70 degrees when I'm halfway and 30 degrees when I reach.
Thank you very much for the video, helped so much already.
When I say frequency, I mean the radio frequency the navigation radio is tuned into. The NAV instrument in the cockpit (with the needles) shows a vertical, and horizontal position relative to the radio beacon the radio is tuned into. Imagine the beacon is like a gun - pointing into the sky from the end of the runway, with an invisible beam extending into the sky on a shallow slope. The radio instrument in the cockpit shows where you are in relation to that beam, to the left or right of it, and above or below it.
@@jonbeckett Now I understand, thanks a lot. Are VOR beacons present in every airport? For the MSFS, does the game have these frequencies built-in?
@@hakanviajando MSFS reflects the real world - no, not all airfields have VOR beacons
@@hakanviajando If you're interested in flying together at some point, I'm busy helping build an online flight sim community over at virtualflight.online - we have a Discord Server, a Facebook Group, and are trying to schedule regular group flights. Would love to see you there!
Does littlenavmap set for UK as well as the USA?
It covers the whole world.
@@jonbeckett many thanks
hi jonathan, great video, can you help me?!? when i rotate the vor it rotates too much, i saw you can rotate less and more precisely,how you do that?!?
Hi, I have the same issue with the nav1, frequency on 113.00 but no active OBS, what can be the reason for that. I flew exactly the route you showed in the video with 320 degrees etc,. Great video by the way.
On approach I was using 109.30 - did you switch the frequency to active ?
@@jonbeckett thanks, that was probably the problem.
Dumb question...do the skyvector charts show adf frequency and the instrument circle one...it runs off what frequency? The ils freq? The tower freq,? or its own frequency? lol...I fly vfr and now use gps but want to get the whole navigation thing and move onto the 172. sigh.
ADF is it's own system - and largely obselete
I was a bit worried about your oil temp?
Me too :)
Useful but how can you use an NDB with a decimal point for example 391.5 in the default Cessna 152
I just looked it up - you should be able to tune within 0.5 of an NDB and it still work.
Where can I get this simulator and how much
The cheapest way to try it is via an XBox Game Pass (which is for the PC, strangely) - you can get a trial account for a huge discount.
@@jonbeckett so do you need an pc or Xbox?
@@santanaurias3112 a PC
Do you happen to have any video's for Xbox?
I don't own an XBox :)
Yes, MS flight sim 2000 is not such a good program. The scenery looks quite fake. Graphics are poor. Controls not good and to touchy. Terrible program, goes off line a lot.
I would say the opposite of all of your observations. With suitable hardware, and a good internet connection it is the best looking flight simulator there has been so far, it's incredible value (you get the entire planet included), the best multiplayer by far, and rock solid networking.
@kimberly wentworth ms flight sim 2000 was made in 1999, perhaps that's why the scenery looks fake, this is msfs 2020 lol and the scenery is exceptional