I am listing the info from the description box below for anyone who has trouble finding it ❤ Amazon US: www.amazon.com/shop/penn.smith.skincare Amazon UK: www.amazon.co.uk/shop/penn.smith.skincare Penn Smith Skincare participates in the Amazon Associates Program. This is an affiliate program and all Amazon links are affiliate. If you choose to use them I will receive a commission. Microneedling Blog Post: www.pennsmithskincare.com/post/post-microneedling-when-to-add-serums-devices-and-other-skincare-back-into-your-routine Skincare Ingredients to Avoid when Micro-needling Blog Post: www.pennsmithskincare.com/post/manage-your-blog-from-your-live-site Here is MY microneedling facial protocol! You have to use YOUR judgement and do your own research to determine if at home microneedling is for you. Some people MUST see a Dr/pro before they embark on needling. This is your skin, take precautions! General Guide (YOU should determine what is best for you!!) Forehead: .25-.5 Thin skin/.5-.75 thick skin Between eyebrows: .25-.5 thin skin/.5-1.0 thick skin Nose: .25-.5 Eye area: .25-.5 Cheek bone: .5 thin skin/ .5-1.0 thick skin lower cheek and chin: .5-1.0 Upper lip: .25 thin skin/ .25-.75 thick skin Facial scarring (I recommend a professional. They will likely do depths of 1-2mm and anything past 1.25 is not for at home in my opinion) Stretch marks are also better in a professional setting where they will do depths of 1.5-2mm Surgical and burn scars must see a pro also especially since there may be better tools to treat these conditions. Who shouldn't needle or should see a pro first regardless? If you have melasma be very careful! It is a tricky skin condition that can both be helped from needling and also flair from needling! Talking to a derm and getting on a pigment inhibitor would be helpful when needling with melasma. If you have a history of hay fever or asthma or food allergies, see a doctor first. If you have diabetes, thyroid conditions, active acne, pustule rosacea, UTIs, or immune diseases see a doctor. I am in no way telling you to needle without proper precautions and that includes talking to a doctor first. When in doubt, talk to a dr/pro. Products mentioned/shown: Dr Pen A7 amzn.to/3u6dBKV Ebanel numbing cream: amzn.to/2THv5d8 Gloves: amzn.to/2ZYaXe5 Alcohol wipes: amzn.to/3dg9STg Sponges: amzn.to/2KFHDPs facial brush: amzn.to/30RIpn7 Cos de Baha HMW Hyaluronic Acid 4oz: amzn.to/2YvfSms An amazing resource is the Dermal Needling book by Dr Lance Setterfield: amzn.to/2ZfU0ty Find more microneedling supplies on Amazon In the US amzn.to/3ylsI4u In the UK amzn.to/3ReO5NK Some links are affiliate, if you choose to shop through them I may earn a commission.
I loved this video, so helpful. Do you still have the products bundled together so we know what to use for each post microneedling phase? I'm having trouble finding it. Thanks so much for all you share. You are amazing!
@@lynneguist5988this was going to be my question. Is she using nano , 16 or 35 needles ?.. Im numb and preped to go. I'm just going to do 16 as a safe bet.. i used nano last time and it was so/so. I have thick skin tho
I have a scar on my chin that's under the skin .. I injured it in a car wreck .. my chin hit the steering wheel.. it ripped the fascia? Where the chin attaches to the skull .. it's now sorta a bump .. is it ok to use the pen on this ?
So I finally did it!! I got a Pen and tonight was my first session. I watched this video 3 times and made very detailed step by step notes. Spent much time disinfecting my area, got all my items and started down my list of steps. As I was going I was so prouder myself for handling the pain, why it wasn’t painful at all!! In fact, even following Penn’s recommendations for depth I was barely getting red! So after my face I did my neck, then my chest, then my hands. When all done and cleaning up I thought “Oh, I better throw out the used cartridge”. ........ I NEVER PUT ONE IN........🤣😂🤣. Oh my, maybe I should rethink this, hahaha!!!! I’ll try again tomorrow night...🤞
I've been doing facial microneedling about 4 months now, once every 4 weeks, it works great, in my career I sweat a lot and I also had some mild acne scars, these treatments work wonders. I used to just use retinol and other high end serums but it didn't effect the look so much, my face was very smooth to the touch. It wasn't till I started microneedling. And I do it myself at home with the Dr. Pen! So you men out there, we can also have great smooth textured skin
@@jennymarcel7265 I didn't buy the high-end one but it still works the way it should. After I bought it I read the reviews and some said there's didn't work, that it just vibrated but not actually was going in and out but mine works just fine. Mine is red and white and labeled as Dr. Pen Ultima N2 Electric Microneedling Derma System. I had paid $70 plus tax on Amazon but it's now on sale for $50.
After watching your videos and doing research for months, I finally just did my first at-home microneedling session following your protocol. Thank you SO MUCH for your incredibly detailed information. There's no one I trust more on the internet!
This is by far the most helpful video I've seen on micro-needling at home. It makes me much more confident to plunge ahead with this process! Many thanks! 🙂
I love this video, always come back to it for reference. I don’t microneedle my upper lip because I’m prone to cold sores. I wish she would do an update video.
WOW!! Thank you so much!! There's no way I can afford needling in a clinic. I'm so excited!! I can do this myself on my own. The information you give us so thorough I can trust it.
That was the BEST introduction to microneedling that I have seen. (I've watched quite a few.) Thank you so much for remembering all the details, amazing. I will keep this in a file and watch periodically to check myself. Perfect, just perfect. Thank you for posting this.
So thankful to have found you. So grateful that you are willing to share your craft with us. I have learned so much from watching your videos. Happy New Years and many blessings to you.
Great video Penny. Even though I've been microneedling for a few months, I got a lot out of this. I love it. Our own Guru! Lol. I feel so fortunate I found you, and I'm sure others feel the same way. Have a great day💕
❤👍😍 Love this video Penny! For several years I have used a dermaroller. Because of this and other videos you have done I invested in a dermapen. Tonight I *finally* jumped in to try it. Thanks for all your tips and tricks! I definitely numbed my face. The spiciest for me is my upper lip (the most!) and my forehead. The numbing cream worked perfectly! I used Glad Press'n Seal cut in strips to cover everything. Instead of rubbing alcohol I used hydrogen peroxide (which I make). I ❤love ❤love ❤love the Cos De Baha (thank you Penny!!!). To counteract discomfort (after the numbing cream wears off) I take arnica (5 tiny homeopathic pellets). Not sure if I should skip this step or not but with a clean spatula I apply stem cells to the treated areas. After it's all done I just leave everything as is until the next say. After my face I also did my neck (pen) and hands (dermaroller) and applied the stem cells as a last step. Then, I sat under my Red Light Therapy tent (DIY made with 3 square panels) for 20 minutes. Thank you so much Penny! I'm excited to get into a habit of doing this every 4-6 weeks. ❤👍😍
The numbing cream will also create a delay in erythema. You are basically paralyzing the nerve endings in the skin so your body really doesn’t know what’s going on whereas if you didn’t use the numbing cream it would turn red super fast. After the treatment I’d like to use a cryo-wand or even one of my jade rollers that I put in the freezer for a few minutes to help close off the pores.
I just bought the A7.... I talked with two plastic surgeons about a few things I’m seeing in the mirror and I’ve decided to investigate other options other than a mid facelift for my neck and marionette lines...I look fine as long as I stay smiling but once I’m not smiling it all falls. I’m hoping this and other items I’ve purchased will restore my skin and muscles from falling. I’m subscribing. Thank you.
Hi Pam, I don't know if you'll see this as it's a year later, but how did you go??...I'm in Tasmania and have recently got a Dr Pen the X5 and am nervous about using it and I'd love to know how you went.....a year later😆 sending hugs💐🌹
This is 'money' Penny! As a video producer let me say this "how to" is damn near perfect. Content and pacing= homerun. Thorough and efficient. You covered every step, answered all the inevitable questions and didn't blather on. Well done. My only question is where does a lay person buy numbing cream?
Maybe I’m crazy…but do you have to use numbing cream?? I had powder brows done and that really didnt hurt (even tho it was numbed) but i could still kinda feel it
Hi Penny :) I am about to do microneedling at home for first time and your videos are really really helpful. After watching every video of yours I feel ready for the treatment so thank you for that. I am a tattoo artist and I am dealing with cross contamination on a daily basis so wiping with alcohol your gloves every time before touching the pen is a lot of work (at least for me is unnecessary exercise). It's maybe not the best to touch your face with alcohol cleaned gloves too because the alcohol goes on your face :) I would like to advice you to get some clip cord covers for tattooing and cover your pen with it. You could even wrap it with grip wrap tape on top of the cover to prevent any slipperiness. That way it will be protected and all you do is remove the cover after :) I know I would definitely do it that way
Yay, thanks for the video. It made me brave enough to try this on my own. I just did my first session face and neck with the M8. I have the numbing cream but chose not to use it my first time around as I'm more wary of the litocain than I am of the feeling of the needling. It wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't terrible either. A few places on the face were hotter than others, but in general, not a problem. I'm excited to see how this helps the skin on my neck as that is my biggest issue at 49. I appreciate you making this so accessible, as all good intentions aside, making time to go to a clinic for it, just doesn't happen.
Thanks a bunch for taking the time to make these videos, and share your knowledge and experience. After first getting the procedure done in the Drs. office twice, a great deal of studying, which your videos have been a large part of, and speaking to my doctor about the pitfalls to watch out for, of doing so, I gained the confidence to start microneedling myself, with the M8. I've been very happy with both the results and the cost savings of doing it myself but there are two (possible) issues I'd really appreciate your feedback on: 1. Speed. Unlike the medical devices which us a piston-based engine that physically pulls the needles all the way out before plunging them back in, consumer devices use a spring action for the retraction stroke. Not willing to stake my face on a tiny little spring (or have it made into steak, by one) this has kept me from ever setting the speed higher than 3, and of course always using a new cartridge with a new spring, in an effort to avoid tearing my skin from starting a down stroke before the needles have finished their prior up stroke. Can you address this a little, as it relates to the speed setting, with your knowledge and experience? 2. Gurgling. After just a few seconds of use, the cartridge starts to gurgle profusely as it stamps through the hyaluronic acid serum I apply, and reapply as necessary, to maintain slip. The amount and frequency of application is very consistent with your own in this video. I don't notice this happening when I've had it done in the doctor's office, or in your videos. Other than making the cartridge itself look like a prop from a horror movie as any small amount of pinpoint blood seems to collect in between the pins with the serum, this doesn't seem to be causing an issue with effectiveness or performance from what I can see. I'm making my own hyaluronic acid serum with hyaluronic acid greater than 1 million daltons molecular weight and at a potency of 1.5%. At this potency it's thick enough that it doesn't immediately just drip right off my face yet isn't as thick as what I would normally make for a normal application. Have you heard of this happening? Do you see any possible problems with it? Should I make the serum thinner? Thanks again, for all your efforts.
I'm soooo new to microneedling. I've done a lot of research on PubMed about microneedling and "percutaneous collagen induction" and completely convinced about its safety and efficacy in skin rejuvenation, especially for skin types at risk for PIH (post inflammatory hyperpigmentation) such as my own. I LOVE that I can get some free online DIY training from a Master Aesthetician. I've already subscribed to your channel and will be reviewing all your microneedling related videos. Thanks!! Best wishes and continued success!
Awesome step by step instruction for beginners! However, you never stated what speed setting we should be using. I am using Dr. Pen M8, so I just left it on #1. Please clarify. Thanks so much!
I've just been to Penn's Master Class on Microneedling and I feel like I need to Pay something on the way out!❤️😂❤️ So professional, yet so very personal n relatable😍 Thank you for all the Info/Demo's that truly Help our needling experience to be Safe n effective!🤗You're a Godsend 💖✨
I know! Right?! Such SUPERB ADVICE💕Penny has had my back (Skin Care & Make-up Wise) Dozens of times w/my smarty pants PHD Sisters..(Lol)..I’m youngest of the bunch..We live a state apart. I am a 37 yr aesthetician..But, for some reason..MY advice sometimes not taken seriously..(Love my sissies dearly).Situation..FIXED..I refer them to Penny’s videos...I think “Better” coming from Her than Me..Their skin is amazing & that’s Fantastic & the whole point.. Great description of our Penny..A ‘God Send’.. I think there is a way to “Tip” You, Penny.. You work So So hard for us..I will look to see “How to do”..Beautiful Day to you Wise Ladies..Lisa🕊
I would like to thank you for giving my wife such a wonderful complement. You honestly made her day. She works tirelessly on these videos. Seeing her ‘fans’ really appreciate all of her hard work is truly special to us both. Thank you from the great Penn Smith’s adoring husband.
@@jarradsmith6304 husband of the year! Thank you for sharing your beautiful amazing wife with us!!!! We love her!! Definitely appreciate all the hard work it takes to make this content. ♥♥♥♥ I watch her videos daily. This is my first comment also. Penny if you see this thank you and I truly appreciate and LOVE you!!♥♥♥♥
Did my first session today with M5 pen-16 needles, HA you recomended(it's running out quickly). Did 1.5mm on deep indentation scaring. It hurts with 1.5mm depth even with numbing cream but I was able to finish it. Keep posting your great videos. One day hope to get treatments done by you when I'm in portland
Penny, thank you for sharing the extra information about numbing. It is so important that people know it can be unsafe if too much is used and then is in the bloodstream from the area or amount covered or from using an occlusive on a large area. Thank you. I don't numb at all because of that and also because I have strong reactions to numbing - heart racing, shakiness and I don't like it. But, the forehead is usually the area that hurts the most for me. I did my neck with 0.5 recently and it didn't hurt at all surprisingly. Thank you so much for your helpful videos!
I have not done a session yet; I'm waiting on my pen, but I bought the Blue-Emu Lidocaine pain relief cream odor free + Emu oil. Is this going to be ok? I am so excited yet a little nervous but can't wait to get my pen and get my first session over and see some results. Great video Penny. Thank you so much for being serious and nothing but good information!
Thank you very much for all your videos , Penn ! Appreciate that so much . I just got my Dr. Pen and tried it for the first time. I used it on score 1 , wasn’t sure which one to choose as a beginner. 😂 Wow girls my face is red after using it! 😂😂😂 Thank you very much for all the comments and experience you sharing, girls ! ❤
I’m a new medi aesthetician here!! I just got my microneedling certificate today! I’ve been binging on your microneedling series and I have to say I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU!!!! 😫😫😫 to be honest I kind of felt that I was left with unanswered questions or unheard information. My workshop was for one day and the instructor was really rushing through everything I felt really lost at times (since I personally process things slowly). I’m really learning a lot more from you then I did at school. I really do appreciate you mentioning your little hacks to keep things sanitary and easy, will definitely take notes 📝. Can you please do a demonstration on a model? (Your method**) that would be helpful!. Also since I live in Canada I heard that they will be banning Dermapens that have no shielded cartridges (due to concerns with tearing skin when needles are bended or because it’s exposed and it’s risks to cross contamination). I was personally trained with the InnoPen. Could you also do a review on it too? In comparative with Dr. Pen? that would be great!!! 👍🏼 otherwise love your videos, you’re a lovely aesthetician 💛 keep it up!
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE what does mean by different number of needles like 16 36 etc? How many needles we should use at home for face and dark circles? Which pen we should select ? I dont understand how i choose the exact number of pins and pen!!😒😒😒 reply must. Waiting for your help
I have been wanting to try this for years, but I have been too afraid, even though I felt it was worthwhile. Watching you has made this so accessible and my confidence has grown, you are so informative and having watched your videos, I now feel ready to try. I can honestly say, I wouldn't have had the nerve to try, if it hadn't been for your really informative channel. Many, many thanks x
Awesome video, Penn, as always. You are indeed the best skincare expert I've run across on RUclips. And this video is the best, most informative video on microneedling ever. Easy to understand, yet in-depth and informative. Thank you for not only explaining, but also doing a thorough demonstration. Outstanding! Love you, doll. - xx, Carla
@@utkuagir I ordered a Dr. Pen 6 from amazon along with the 5% lidocaine cream. Be sure and watch Penny's video showing how to charge the pen and put the needles on. Very helpful.
I appreciate you stressing the importance of creating a sterile environment for microneedling. This is no joke for sure and it’s not worth the risk of failing to prepare the skin adequately. Thanks for mentioning that you microneedle the more sensitive areas first as well.
I watched another video of hers, where she's needling at home and says because she's doing it at home, she doesn't need the gloves. She used alcohol on her face, and she numbed it up, no gloves though. I also don't recall that she kept using alcohol on her hands. Confusing...
When I did my medical needling protocol I actually do talk about having alcohol on hand to avoid cross contamination. I have done videos on cosmetic needling and nano “needling” and I don’t use alcohol during those procedures. I’m extremely careful with sanitation. But I’ve worn gloves and not worn gloves-either way I just make sure to not touch things then the face if at all possible and to dip in alcohol if I do. Hope that clears it up.
But let me know if you’re still confused. Clean hands on my own face is no different than gloved hands….still have to prevent cross contamination. It’s just preference. In office? Always wear gloves.
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE Penny, I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect. I'm a new subscriber and trying to absorb all your information. I joke all the time that if you look in my ear, you'll see a rusty 'No Vacancy" sign hanging in my brain....lol...it's too darned full of all the worthless stuff I remember....ha. I actually did watch your nano needling yesterday, good timing since I purchased some right before that! I needled last night for the first time, using the Dr Pen a6 Ultima. I honestly was scared to death, trying to remember everything. I used alcohol, no gloves. No numbing. I used to use a dermaroller, but a doctor told me I was tearing my skin, bad girl, I was! So I tossed it. This was about 3 years ago, never heard of you, wish I had. The instructions with it were a lot different than what you say....wish I'd known!Anyway, again, don't be alarmed at my confusion. I'm usually in a constant state of confusion about something. 🥴 I'm not 30 anymore, or 40, or 50.....💜
I purchased the cos de baha, numbing cream, and kiwi seed oil. Love all 3 and all were affordable. Thank you for all you share! Decolletage area on deck!
I want to thank you for posting this video. I just started microneedling. I started first doing it with a nano cartridge to get the feel of my tool. I then went up to 12 pins today. I used a Dr. Pen Ultimate A6. It wasn’t bad at all. I set my pen at .5 and a high speed. I did use a numbing cream. The worst part was around my lips and just above my brows. The worst though was just a stinging sensation. I am anxious to see how it does after a few months. Thank you again for sharing.
Doing my first at home session this morning! wish me luck Your videos are Extremely helpful & I feel confident ( a little nervous) but mostly excited to incorporate this in to my life style!
@@RayhanaAbdul till now i did 4 sessions now my skin looks is more shiny and acne scars starts vanishing.....untill 4rth sessions i didn't noticed any difference...so you have to be patience and go slowly & steady but definitely worthy.
So thankful I have found you here on RUclips! I have ordered my pen M8 - super excited! Thank you so much for your time and work you put into these videos!
Your channel is fantastic, thank you for making all of this info and your expertise available to us! Was wondering about the brush you were using to apply the HA while needling: how would we sanitize and store that properly? Thanks again!
I subscribed to your channel immediately when I checked out your favorite list on amz. You're exactly person I been looking for...someone not Asian, but esthetician and love korean skincare. American/European skincare or professional skincare so expensive but I don't think they actually worthy.
You’re so lucky to be able to purchase this. Health Canada banned the sale of these for us so I have to at some point make my way to the US and pick up a kit. It’s a huge pain.
Absolutely love this video thank you so much for the information! I had a TCA peel done last week and was wondering how long I would need to wait to needle? I've stopped peeling and have 0 irritation
I’m so glad I watched this video. I’ve been lifting the micro needle up and down into place instead of dragging it across my skin. I’m gonna try this again!
Love your videos Penny.... you have helped me so much in understanding the process of microneedling. You are truly a blessing honey. Thank you so much for sharing!
Amazing... I went to school to become and esthetician but I didn’t take the state boards. 20 years later and now I just should of taken the exam. But I absolutely love skin care have been taken care of my skin since 13 years old. Every year around my bday I start looking for the new best thing. Well I have purchased three machines watching your videos and I was able to use your discount code, so thank you. This was the best video ever. Also this machine looks amazing. Getting this also. Thank you
I am so happy I found your channel. You explanations are very thorough. At age 47 I feel there is hope for me with my fine lines, wrinkles and large pores. On the other hand, My son is 15 and he finished his 6 month treatment of Accutane 6 months ago. He has a lot of scaring and holes from where the cysts where. I have had micro-needling done by a dermatologist and is was very expensive. The dermatologists recommended to do this for my son to help with scaring. But he is afraid to do it. I figured I would get this system for myself and try it on him.
❤️❤️❤️Best needling video ever. Penny, wow! You are the best teacher. And, btw, your skin is looking gorgeous! I have one question. I loved what you said about the perimeter of the face. When I’m going to be washing my hair, I like to massage into my hairline to help get that more taut look. Can you needle into the hairline? I get that there are some nuances that would have to happen if you needed to numb and sterilize that area. Thanks ❤️ Also, in your Friday questions, could you address how you would incorporate needling along with micro current devices like the Ziip and NuFace; as well as light therapy masks and devices. I’d love to know what to do together and what not to do and for how long - days, hours, etc. Thanks!🥰
I love your channel! I think it’s better than Natural Kaos, who first turned me on to all this but I’m so happy I found your channel! I feel like in her videos she does things incorrectly or harshly and I’m not about that. I’m from Oregon too! I bought the A7 a couple days ago too and I’m so excited!
Watching a pro do it just gives me confidence. It's really selfless of you giving out all these great tips for free, thanks. The Cos de Baha HMW Hyaluronic Acid is not available on Amazon Canada which is sad. Any tip where else to get it?
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Mam the precautions ur taking at home is incredible, the skin laser specialist i went to touched everything plus the phone that rang twice and went ahead touched my face after, i was frozen
So I did it tonight without a numbing cream. I have a high tolerance to pain so maybe my experience won't count but honestly I thought the pain would be worst. It was more of a discomfort. I felt pain around my lips and nose but it was it. Thank you Penny❤️
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE hi just watch your video thank you for the info you prov ided for us beginners . Can you please where can we buy that product my email elsafernandez03 @gmail.com tnx muchly stay safe
Just did my first microneedling session by myself! I’ve been going to a spa and getting them done paying $100 a pop! Glad to be at the point I’m comfortable doing it myself. Thank you for your guidance!
Loving the needling series! Wondering how to use LED therapy in conjunction with needling. Thank for your willingness to share your knowledge. Really enjoy your channel and have learned so much about skin care ~♡~
Bought my pen from Amazon a couple of days ago, cost me about $60. It came today, and I just got done trying it for the first time about 30 minutes ago, and MY GOSH, it is much different than a roller. Even at .25mm all over, it gives a sting, and there is a clear redness to the skin after. I didn’t use lidocaine, and I don’t plan to, but I can tell you that on the forehead it is going to give a bit of a sting, but worth it. I put serums on, then topped it off with an Exuviance Vitamin C capsule mixed with a little moisturizer, and the sting the vitamin C gave was the best! I knew it worked the best this time.
Does microneedling help with large pores around the nose and cheeks? My pores always clog and I keep my skin clean and use hyraulonic acid before I add moisturizer. Thank you for any advice you can g to me. Mary H 🌹
Thank you very much for the very detailed videos.I did my first micro needling at home with M8 pen. If I have not found these videos I would be very reluctant doing micro needling at home. That’s a lot Penny for such a great useful videos ☺️
Have you ever done this without numbing at all? :)) It can be quite the experience! I don't numb. So, I start out at 0.5 and do the whole face. Thank you for the tip on being sure to do the parameter - I will keep this in mind and pay extra attention to that. Then, I go back and will do certain key areas a bit deeper or just a bit more - lines around eyes, forehead and around the mouth. I try to do the 0.5 to adjust to the pain before going deeper. I noticed sometimes the pain isn't that bad and other times it really really hurts.
I was whimpering while microneedling my neck at 1.0. I was basically holding back a scream it was so painful. I have the Derminator, though which I have heard needles with more force (heard that from youtuber who has both Dr Pen and Derminator).
I hope you can answer me, since this video is 3 years old?. I just saw your video and immediately bought the pen, the brush and the hyluronuc acid, why? Love your video and. I'm desperately looking for a solution for my chin and lower lip area . I have wrinkles that get worse when I talk😱. I paid $2,400😱 to a Dr to get Ultherapy and didn't work 😢😢.same wrinkles, a huge hole in my pocket 😢.So I'll be doing this, you sound very professional and love the fact you refer people to professionals if you deemed appropriate. Please help me by answering this question. Is microneedling good for this area? My chin?Also want to do it only in my frown and the area you started my forehead thank you!
Hi, I've been watching your videos and thanks to you I finally got the courage to do microneedling. I just did my first one, I used Dr. Pen A6 using the 12 needles with 0.5 all over my face and 0.25 under my eyes, however my face didn't get redness like yours afterward. I wonder if I did it incorrectly. Pls advice, thanks so much.
You need to go deeper. I had my face done at the doctors. They used 2.5. I now do it at home. I do 1 forehead, 1.5 temples, 2.0 for cheeks and chin. I bleed a lot, but get great results. If you don’t see bright redness, then it wasn’t Deep enough. Good luck.
@@whisperingpines8013 you should probably save 2.5 for the medispa. I have used 1.5 with no ill effects but you really do have to be vigilant with sanitation and after care (clean sheets, towels, don't touch your face, keep hair away, gently wash after 24 hours, no steam or sweating for a few days, no makeup for 48 hours and after that only mineral makeup, barrier sunscreen, paracetemol, no exfoliation 7 days before or 14 days after etc.)
Your great videos have opened up a whole new world about skincare for me. So happy. I saw your calendar for micro needling on Friday Q & A. Confused about the difference between medical, cosmetic & nano micro needling. Medical is 4-6 weeks apart, but cosmetic is every week. What's the difference? Is the pen A6/7 medical? a face roller cosmetic? And nano is...? Thanks
Your videos are getting me through this stay home order! I had medical microneedling for the first time one month ago. I had a histamine type reaction to either the procedure or the products used (swelling and severe redness for over a week, even tho taking benedryl). That said, I'm setting a lot of skin tightening and firmer skin now! I'm glad I found your videos to try this at home, using just HA and not going as deep as the esthetician did (she did 1mm on almost my entire face). Loving the gran active retinoid from the Ordinary, as I just get too flakey from tretinoin. Thank you!
That is awesome. Is your routine close to this one or do you do something different? I have been too nervous to go above .3 cosmetic needling at home. I just use cos de baha HA and a copper peptide serum.
@@Joannabanana1989 I just use that HA. Dr Pen 🖊️ comes with guidelines for depth, regarding if you have thicker or thinner skin. The depths I do: 0.25 around my eyes, down my nose, and directly on my lips. 0.5 on my forehead, around my lip lines and upper cheeks. 0.75 lower cheeks, chin, and all the way down across my chest. I don’t wash off the serum after. Rather, I spritz my face with like an Evian water spray, then add oil (prickly pear or other pure organic oil). I needle at night and then GENTLY wash my face in the AM. Don’t use and retinol or acids for a few day following
I've had Intensif RF and I have done several microneedling sessions to help with scars and syringoma on my ocular bone. They definitely have made a huge difference in the appearance of my syringoma. I've very excited to try this protocol. I had no idea you could do this treatment at home. Thank you!
Thanks to Penny for her advice to get the book Dermal Needling. I just found out that I cannot do it, after having Sculptra or Bellafil, EVER. Thank goodness I read the book. It's also not advised for anyone with an autoimmune disease,
It’s actually ok with Sculptra. I know setterfield warns against it (and I get it) but in practice I’ve seen tons of people with amazing results with needing and previous sculptra (I do both myself). Now....radiesse (which Setterfield says not to needle if you’ve had) I get. But then I would caution people from fever getting radiesse in the first place. Autoimmune-definitely no no. I’m so glad you got the book, such an awesome reference even beyond needling!
I microneedle at home. I leave my HA on afterwards-spray my face with filtered water- and relax while it draws the water into my skin. I was wondering-what brand of Pen do you advise/use? Preferably one I can buy from the UK. I have been using rollers- and hand stamping with square microneedle stamps. I feel your method would be more effective. Thank you for your amazing videos! I feel better just watching them 😊
It was so good to rewatch this for a refresher. I have been really bad with my MMN practice, and it's been probably nearly 2 months since I last did it. I don't use numbing cream (although I have some), I just buck it up--and it really isn't bad at all. But the sneezing response, oy vey!
Hello Penny. Love your channel, and I am highly impressed with your in-depth knowledge and communication skills; you’re a consummate professional! 😉 Here’s my long-winded history: For my 50th birthday, I had a series of in-office IPL sessions with luminous results. Unfortunately, I didn’t follow up with maintenance; I moved to another state, and these at-home devices were unavailable then. Oh, the joy of technology! Fast forward. I’m now 64 and recently purchased a LED (red-blue-green light) device with bio wave, microcurrent, and massage functionality, and after a month, I love, love, love the results! While it’s not a magic wand, the dark spots have almost completely faded from my face and hands, and that glowy luminosity is returning. YAY! Now it’s time to spearhead those deeper, niggly lines. After loads of research, including your channel, I am now considering at-home microneedling. And here’s my question: you recommend 9point and 12point needle cartridges in your protocol, but the Dr. Pen device comes with a starter kit of (5) 12 and (5) 36 cartridges. In what instance or for what area would you use #36?
I can answer that. She has another video for cosmetic microneedling where the higher number of pins don't penatrate as deeply but make more superficial micro holes and then she puts on a protocol of serums right afterward because they can actually get IN the skin. But for this video/procedure you'd use the one with the fewer pins.
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Here is MY microneedling facial protocol!
You have to use YOUR judgement and do your own research to determine if at home microneedling is for you. Some people MUST see a Dr/pro before they embark on needling. This is your skin, take precautions!
General Guide (YOU should determine what is best for you!!)
Forehead: .25-.5 Thin skin/.5-.75 thick skin
Between eyebrows: .25-.5 thin skin/.5-1.0 thick skin
Nose: .25-.5
Eye area: .25-.5
Cheek bone: .5 thin skin/ .5-1.0 thick skin
lower cheek and chin: .5-1.0
Upper lip: .25 thin skin/ .25-.75 thick skin
Facial scarring (I recommend a professional. They will likely do depths of 1-2mm and anything past 1.25 is not for at home in my opinion)
Stretch marks are also better in a professional setting where they will do depths of 1.5-2mm
Surgical and burn scars must see a pro also especially since there may be better tools to treat these conditions.
Who shouldn't needle or should see a pro first regardless?
If you have melasma be very careful! It is a tricky skin condition that can both be helped from needling and also flair from needling! Talking to a derm and getting on a pigment inhibitor would be helpful when needling with melasma.
If you have a history of hay fever or asthma or food allergies, see a doctor first. If you have diabetes, thyroid conditions, active acne, pustule rosacea, UTIs, or immune diseases see a doctor. I am in no way telling you to needle without proper precautions and that includes talking to a doctor first. When in doubt, talk to a dr/pro.
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I loved this video, so helpful. Do you still have the products bundled together so we know what to use for each post microneedling phase? I'm having trouble finding it. Thanks so much for all you share. You are amazing!
Do you have an update on products to use? Specifically, are there are forms of HA that are recommended except for Cos De Baha?
You don’t mention in your video what size of pen you’re using or needles I should say is it 16 or 36?
@@lynneguist5988this was going to be my question. Is she using nano , 16 or 35 needles ?.. Im numb and preped to go. I'm just going to do 16 as a safe bet.. i used nano last time and it was so/so. I have thick skin tho
I have a scar on my chin that's under the skin .. I injured it in a car wreck .. my chin hit the steering wheel.. it ripped the fascia? Where the chin attaches to the skull .. it's now sorta a bump .. is it ok to use the pen on this ?
So I finally did it!! I got a Pen and tonight was my first session. I watched this video 3 times and made very detailed step by step notes. Spent much time disinfecting my area, got all my items and started down my list of steps. As I was going I was so prouder myself for handling the pain, why it wasn’t painful at all!! In fact, even following Penn’s recommendations for depth I was barely getting red! So after my face I did my neck, then my chest, then my hands. When all done and cleaning up I thought “Oh, I better throw out the used cartridge”. ........ I NEVER PUT ONE IN........🤣😂🤣. Oh my, maybe I should rethink this, hahaha!!!! I’ll try again tomorrow night...🤞
Oh my goodness!
Gwen Andreotti what!! 😆😂
😂😂😂That is exactly what I could do too. I hope the next session WITH needles isn’t too painful!
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That is hysterical!!!!! I would do something like that. You are not alone!
I've been doing facial microneedling about 4 months now, once every 4 weeks, it works great, in my career I sweat a lot and I also had some mild acne scars, these treatments work wonders. I used to just use retinol and other high end serums but it didn't effect the look so much, my face was very smooth to the touch. It wasn't till I started microneedling. And I do it myself at home with the Dr. Pen! So you men out there, we can also have great smooth textured skin
Which Dr. Pen did you use?
@@jennymarcel7265 I didn't buy the high-end one but it still works the way it should. After I bought it I read the reviews and some said there's didn't work, that it just vibrated but not actually was going in and out but mine works just fine. Mine is red and white and labeled as Dr. Pen Ultima N2 Electric Microneedling Derma System. I had paid $70 plus tax on Amazon but it's now on sale for $50.
This is the comment I've been searching for - how often do people microneedle? I will try once a month, as well. Thank you
@@Theorist9every 4 to 6 weeks. You can nano micro needle 1 every week.
After watching your videos and doing research for months, I finally just did my first at-home microneedling session following your protocol. Thank you SO MUCH for your incredibly detailed information. There's no one I trust more on the internet!
Wow! Thank you! That means so much to me!
I’m so excited for you 😃🥰💜
Same !!! I trust her advice 💯
This is by far the most helpful video I've seen on micro-needling at home. It makes me much more confident to plunge ahead with this process! Many thanks! 🙂
I love this video, always come back to it for reference. I don’t microneedle my upper lip because I’m prone to cold sores. I wish she would do an update video.
WOW!! Thank you so much!! There's no way I can afford needling in a clinic. I'm so excited!! I can do this myself on my own. The information you give us so thorough I can trust it.
That was the BEST introduction to microneedling that I have seen. (I've watched quite a few.) Thank you so much for remembering all the details, amazing. I will keep this in a file and watch periodically to check myself. Perfect, just perfect. Thank you for posting this.
Glad it was helpful!
So thankful to have found you. So grateful that you are willing to share your craft with us. I have learned so much from watching your videos. Happy New Years and many blessings to you.
Happy New Year Annette! Thank you so much for that kind comment!
I’m glad you’re here 💜
Great video Penny. Even though I've been microneedling for a few months, I got a lot out of this. I love it. Our own Guru! Lol. I feel so fortunate I found you, and I'm sure others feel the same way. Have a great day💕
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❤👍😍 Love this video Penny!
For several years I have used a dermaroller. Because of this and other videos you have done I invested in a dermapen. Tonight I *finally* jumped in to try it.
Thanks for all your tips and tricks! I definitely numbed my face. The spiciest for me is my upper lip (the most!) and my forehead. The numbing cream worked perfectly! I used Glad Press'n Seal cut in strips to cover everything. Instead of rubbing alcohol I used hydrogen peroxide (which I make). I ❤love ❤love ❤love the Cos De Baha (thank you Penny!!!).
To counteract discomfort (after the numbing cream wears off) I take arnica (5 tiny homeopathic pellets).
Not sure if I should skip this step or not but with a clean spatula I apply stem cells to the treated areas.
After it's all done I just leave everything as is until the next say.
After my face I also did my neck (pen) and hands (dermaroller) and applied the stem cells as a last step. Then, I sat under my Red Light Therapy tent (DIY made with 3 square panels) for 20 minutes.
Thank you so much Penny! I'm excited to get into a habit of doing this every 4-6 weeks. ❤👍😍
☕️ Perfect Sunday? Coffee & Penny sharing her mad skincare skills.🙏🏼
This was recommended by my dermatologist but no advice given. So you are a much needed resource. So professional. Thank you ❣️
You are so welcome!
The numbing cream will also create a delay in erythema. You are basically paralyzing the nerve endings in the skin so your body really doesn’t know what’s going on whereas if you didn’t use the numbing cream it would turn red super fast. After the treatment I’d like to use a cryo-wand or even one of my jade rollers that I put in the freezer for a few minutes to help close off the pores.
I just bought the A7.... I talked with two plastic surgeons about a few things I’m seeing in the mirror and I’ve decided to investigate other options other than a mid facelift for my neck and marionette lines...I look fine as long as I stay smiling but once I’m not smiling it all falls. I’m hoping this and other items I’ve purchased will restore my skin and muscles from falling. I’m subscribing. Thank you.
I did it! I was so scared, but it was so easy. Did not hurt. Thank you so much!!
This is the best microneedling demonstration video on YT, so glad I found this.
I'm going to do my first microneedling in a few days..Wish me luck.
luck
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Hi Pam, I don't know if you'll see this as it's a year later, but how did you go??...I'm in Tasmania and have recently got a Dr Pen the X5 and am nervous about using it and I'd love to know how you went.....a year later😆 sending hugs💐🌹
LUUUUCKKKKK!!!!!
This is 'money' Penny! As a video producer let me say this "how to" is damn near perfect.
Content and pacing= homerun. Thorough and efficient. You covered every step, answered all the inevitable questions and didn't blather on. Well done. My only question is where does a lay person buy numbing cream?
Pharmacies all have it.
@@woman4womenkids547 Thanks! Got some and plan on going for it tonight.
@@outtosee3789 enjoy! She is an excellent guide.
Amazon! The one she used is on Amazon.
Maybe I’m crazy…but do you have to use numbing cream?? I had powder brows done and that really didnt hurt (even tho it was numbed) but i could still kinda feel it
Hi Penny :) I am about to do microneedling at home for first time and your videos are really really helpful. After watching every video of yours I feel ready for the treatment so thank you for that.
I am a tattoo artist and I am dealing with cross contamination on a daily basis so wiping with alcohol your gloves every time before touching the pen is a lot of work (at least for me is unnecessary exercise). It's maybe not the best to touch your face with alcohol cleaned gloves too because the alcohol goes on your face :) I would like to advice you to get some clip cord covers for tattooing and cover your pen with it. You could even wrap it with grip wrap tape on top of the cover to prevent any slipperiness. That way it will be protected and all you do is remove the cover after :) I know I would definitely do it that way
Love this lady. She's always a font of knowledge and so very pleasant. Brava, darling !
😊 Thank you so much!!
Yay, thanks for the video. It made me brave enough to try this on my own. I just did my first session face and neck with the M8. I have the numbing cream but chose not to use it my first time around as I'm more wary of the litocain than I am of the feeling of the needling. It wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't terrible either. A few places on the face were hotter than others, but in general, not a problem. I'm excited to see how this helps the skin on my neck as that is my biggest issue at 49. I appreciate you making this so accessible, as all good intentions aside, making time to go to a clinic for it, just doesn't happen.
Would love love love an updated needling video!!!
Thanks a bunch for taking the time to make these videos, and share your knowledge and experience. After first getting the procedure done in the Drs. office twice, a great deal of studying, which your videos have been a large part of, and speaking to my doctor about the pitfalls to watch out for, of doing so, I gained the confidence to start microneedling myself, with the M8.
I've been very happy with both the results and the cost savings of doing it myself but there are two (possible) issues I'd really appreciate your feedback on:
1. Speed. Unlike the medical devices which us a piston-based engine that physically pulls the needles all the way out before plunging them back in, consumer devices use a spring action for the retraction stroke. Not willing to stake my face on a tiny little spring (or have it made into steak, by one) this has kept me from ever setting the speed higher than 3, and of course always using a new cartridge with a new spring, in an effort to avoid tearing my skin from starting a down stroke before the needles have finished their prior up stroke. Can you address this a little, as it relates to the speed setting, with your knowledge and experience?
2. Gurgling. After just a few seconds of use, the cartridge starts to gurgle profusely as it stamps through the hyaluronic acid serum I apply, and reapply as necessary, to maintain slip. The amount and frequency of application is very consistent with your own in this video. I don't notice this happening when I've had it done in the doctor's office, or in your videos. Other than making the cartridge itself look like a prop from a horror movie as any small amount of pinpoint blood seems to collect in between the pins with the serum, this doesn't seem to be causing an issue with effectiveness or performance from what I can see. I'm making my own hyaluronic acid serum with hyaluronic acid greater than 1 million daltons molecular weight and at a potency of 1.5%. At this potency it's thick enough that it doesn't immediately just drip right off my face yet isn't as thick as what I would normally make for a normal application. Have you heard of this happening? Do you see any possible problems with it? Should I make the serum thinner?
Thanks again, for all your efforts.
Btw thank you for this!! I have been doing my Microneedling at home for the past 3 months!!! Love you girl
I'm soooo new to microneedling. I've done a lot of research on PubMed about microneedling and "percutaneous collagen induction" and completely convinced about its safety and efficacy in skin rejuvenation, especially for skin types at risk for PIH (post inflammatory hyperpigmentation) such as my own. I LOVE that I can get some free online DIY training from a Master Aesthetician. I've already subscribed to your channel and will be reviewing all your microneedling related videos. Thanks!! Best wishes and continued success!
Ive had my Penn for months too scared to use but i trued it last night and love it!
Awesome step by step instruction for beginners! However, you never stated what speed setting we should be using. I am using Dr. Pen M8, so I just left it on #1. Please clarify. Thanks so much!
Thank you for empowering us with the knowledge to be safe when microneedling at home.
I've just been to Penn's Master Class on Microneedling and I feel like I need to Pay something on the way out!❤️😂❤️ So professional, yet so very personal n relatable😍 Thank you for all the Info/Demo's that truly Help our needling experience to be Safe n effective!🤗You're a Godsend 💖✨
Thank you so much! That comment made my day!! 💜💜💜💜💜
I know! Right?! Such SUPERB ADVICE💕Penny has had my back (Skin Care & Make-up Wise) Dozens of times w/my smarty pants PHD Sisters..(Lol)..I’m youngest of the bunch..We live a state apart. I am a 37 yr aesthetician..But, for some reason..MY advice sometimes not taken seriously..(Love my sissies dearly).Situation..FIXED..I refer them to Penny’s videos...I think “Better” coming from Her than Me..Their skin is amazing & that’s Fantastic & the whole point..
Great description of our Penny..A ‘God Send’..
I think there is a way to “Tip” You, Penny..
You work So So hard for us..I will look to see “How to do”..Beautiful Day to you Wise Ladies..Lisa🕊
I would like to thank you for giving my wife such a wonderful complement. You honestly made her day. She works tirelessly on these videos. Seeing her ‘fans’ really appreciate all of her hard work is truly special to us both.
Thank you from the great Penn Smith’s adoring husband.
Jarrad Smith .. What an amazing Husband 😎 True Love ROCKS n lives forever!❤️ Bless you & Your Family 🙏🏻💙
@@jarradsmith6304 husband of the year! Thank you for sharing your beautiful amazing wife with us!!!! We love her!! Definitely appreciate all the hard work it takes to make this content. ♥♥♥♥ I watch her videos daily. This is my first comment also. Penny if you see this thank you and I truly appreciate and LOVE you!!♥♥♥♥
Did my first session today with M5 pen-16 needles, HA you recomended(it's running out quickly). Did 1.5mm on deep indentation scaring. It hurts with 1.5mm depth even with numbing cream but I was able to finish it. Keep posting your great videos. One day hope to get treatments done by you when I'm in portland
Penny, thank you for sharing the extra information about numbing. It is so important that people know it can be unsafe if too much is used and then is in the bloodstream from the area or amount covered or from using an occlusive on a large area. Thank you. I don't numb at all because of that and also because I have strong reactions to numbing - heart racing, shakiness and I don't like it. But, the forehead is usually the area that hurts the most for me. I did my neck with 0.5 recently and it didn't hurt at all surprisingly. Thank you so much for your helpful videos!
I have not done a session yet; I'm waiting on my pen, but I bought the Blue-Emu Lidocaine pain relief cream odor free + Emu oil. Is this going to be ok? I am so excited yet a little nervous but can't wait to get my pen and get my first session over and see some results. Great video Penny. Thank you so much for being serious and nothing but good information!
Thank you very much for all your videos , Penn ! Appreciate that so much .
I just got my Dr. Pen and tried it for the first time. I used it on score 1 , wasn’t sure which one to choose as a beginner. 😂
Wow girls my face is red after using it! 😂😂😂
Thank you very much for all the comments and experience you sharing, girls ! ❤
I’m a new medi aesthetician here!! I just got my microneedling certificate today! I’ve been binging on your microneedling series and I have to say I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU!!!! 😫😫😫 to be honest I kind of felt that I was left with unanswered questions or unheard information. My workshop was for one day and the instructor was really rushing through everything I felt really lost at times (since I personally process things slowly). I’m really learning a lot more from you then I did at school. I really do appreciate you mentioning your little hacks to keep things sanitary and easy, will definitely take notes 📝. Can you please do a demonstration on a model? (Your method**) that would be helpful!. Also since I live in Canada I heard that they will be banning Dermapens that have no shielded cartridges (due to concerns with tearing skin when needles are bended or because it’s exposed and it’s risks to cross contamination). I was personally trained with the InnoPen. Could you also do a review on it too? In comparative with Dr. Pen? that would be great!!! 👍🏼 otherwise love your videos, you’re a lovely aesthetician 💛 keep it up!
I will check out that pen for sure!
And I’m so excited you’re here! Congrats on your license and keep in touch! 💜💜💜
Yes, she is a fabulous teacher. Gets to the point!!
The versatility of the pens really shine here! Appreciate the demo!
I can’t put to words how thankful I am you are out there for us with your amazing advice and experience!!! Thank you Penny 🌷🥰
Thank you so much for this sweet comment! That means so much to me! 💜
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE what does mean by different number of needles like 16 36 etc? How many needles we should use at home for face and dark circles? Which pen we should select ? I dont understand how i choose the exact number of pins and pen!!😒😒😒 reply must. Waiting for your help
I have been wanting to try this for years, but I have been too afraid, even though I felt it was worthwhile. Watching you has made this so accessible and my confidence has grown, you are so informative and having watched your videos, I now feel ready to try. I can honestly say, I wouldn't have had the nerve to try, if it hadn't been for your really informative channel. Many, many thanks x
Awesome video, Penn, as always. You are indeed the best skincare expert I've run across on RUclips. And this video is the best, most informative video on microneedling ever. Easy to understand, yet in-depth and informative. Thank you for not only explaining, but also doing a thorough demonstration. Outstanding! Love you, doll. - xx, Carla
Just did my first microneedling on my face at .05 with my new Dr Pen..so excited!
I am looking for buy one. How did you buy?
@@utkuagir I ordered a Dr. Pen 6 from amazon along with the 5% lidocaine cream. Be sure and watch Penny's video showing how to charge the pen and put the needles on. Very helpful.
@@mypartybag thank you
Hi again, I was just searching in Amazon dr pen 6 but couldn't find anything. Do you mind to send link for that pen. Thanks.
@@utkuagir not sure how to send the link, but it is a Dr. PEN Ultima A6 ,it is an Amazon Choice item and is $107, hope that helps!
I appreciate you stressing the importance of creating a sterile environment for microneedling. This is no joke for sure and it’s not worth the risk of failing to prepare the skin adequately. Thanks for mentioning that you microneedle the more sensitive areas first as well.
I watched another video of hers, where she's needling at home and says because she's doing it at home, she doesn't need the gloves. She used alcohol on her face, and she numbed it up, no gloves though. I also don't recall that she kept using alcohol on her hands. Confusing...
When I did my medical needling protocol I actually do talk about having alcohol on hand to avoid cross contamination.
I have done videos on cosmetic needling and nano “needling” and I don’t use alcohol during those procedures.
I’m extremely careful with sanitation. But I’ve worn gloves and not worn gloves-either way I just make sure to not touch things then the face if at all possible and to dip in alcohol if I do.
Hope that clears it up.
But let me know if you’re still confused.
Clean hands on my own face is no different than gloved hands….still have to prevent cross contamination. It’s just preference.
In office? Always wear gloves.
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE Penny, I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect. I'm a new subscriber and trying to absorb all your information. I joke all the time that if you look in my ear, you'll see a rusty 'No Vacancy" sign hanging in my brain....lol...it's too darned full of all the worthless stuff I remember....ha. I actually did watch your nano needling yesterday, good timing since I purchased some right before that! I needled last night for the first time, using the Dr Pen a6 Ultima. I honestly was scared to death, trying to remember everything. I used alcohol, no gloves. No numbing. I used to use a dermaroller, but a doctor told me I was tearing my skin, bad girl, I was! So I tossed it. This was about 3 years ago, never heard of you, wish I had. The instructions with it were a lot different than what you say....wish I'd known!Anyway, again, don't be alarmed at my confusion. I'm usually in a constant state of confusion about something. 🥴 I'm not 30 anymore, or 40, or 50.....💜
Thank you. I just got my Dr pen and I was lost. You saved me 🙌. Ty
I purchased the cos de baha, numbing cream, and kiwi seed oil. Love all 3 and all were affordable. Thank you for all you share!
Decolletage area on deck!
bonsoir. vous avez un lien pour acheter le Cos de Baha? merci
I learned so much watching this! Glad you put the settings in your notes too. I feel like I'm finally ready to use my pen at home. Thanks!
Awesome video! By far the best I have watched. I am 50 and dealing with thinning hair.Could you touch on needling for hair loss. Thank You 🙏🏻
I am also 50 and dealing with thinnkng hair. I am actually thinking about wigs. You should check out Taz's wig closet on youtube
My self also but i have embraced wigs. I love that i can throw them on and go. I am 55 so I’m not fighting it its a losing battle and expensive.
hi Diane, I'm on the same boat. Yes, you can do that. get the Concise guide to Dermal Needling" book.
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I did mine without numbing - it truly isn't that bad. I found the forehead and nose was a little sensitive
Not sure why I waited so long to watch this! Thank you!
I want to thank you for posting this video. I just started microneedling. I started first doing it with a nano cartridge to get the feel of my tool. I then went up to 12 pins today. I used a Dr. Pen Ultimate A6. It wasn’t bad at all. I set my pen at .5 and a high speed. I did use a numbing cream. The worst part was around my lips and just above my brows. The worst though was just a stinging sensation. I am anxious to see how it does after a few months. Thank you again for sharing.
Doing my first at home session this morning! wish me luck Your videos are Extremely helpful & I feel confident ( a little nervous) but mostly excited to incorporate this in to my life style!
Hey how was your Microneedling experience?
@@RayhanaAbdul till now i did 4 sessions now my skin looks is more shiny and acne scars starts vanishing.....untill 4rth sessions i didn't noticed any difference...so you have to be patience and go slowly & steady but definitely worthy.
Just ordered Korabeauticals’ V2 pen and can’t wait to start my first session. Thank you so much for providing so much important information for us.
Thank you for being here! Wishing you great skin 😍
Ur an angel for sharing ur knowledge with us for free!!! ❤️
So thankful I have found you here on RUclips! I have ordered my pen M8 - super excited! Thank you so much for your time and work you put into these videos!
Just watched this video while doing my first at home session. It went great and im so thankful for this video!!!
So we leave the cos de baha to our skin overnight? we dont add nothing to it after we are done with microneedling our skin?
Please do a protocol for hair regrowth with microneedling :D
Gin Amber has amazing videos for that. She has her own beauty line. Real needles. Not the cheap fake ones.
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Excellent! Loved this video. I will buy this tool, oils, and follow this video again🙏🏻 Thank You!👌🏼
Your channel is fantastic, thank you for making all of this info and your expertise available to us! Was wondering about the brush you were using to apply the HA while needling: how would we sanitize and store that properly? Thanks again!
Your Videos are Gold! By far the best I’ve seen on micro needling and skincare
I subscribed to your channel immediately when I checked out your favorite list on amz. You're exactly person I been looking for...someone not Asian, but esthetician and love korean skincare. American/European skincare or professional skincare so expensive but I don't think they actually worthy.
Would love to see if you have any new recommendations on the ones you use. How do you feel about the Dr. Pen cordless pens? Thank you
I still like the A6 personally (cordless) and A7 (corded).
I’ve heard there is a new pen….I’m going to look into it 😊
Do you recommend red light therapy after a micro needle session? I have a light therapy device
That’s my question as well
You’re so lucky to be able to purchase this. Health Canada banned the sale of these for us so I have to at some point make my way to the US and pick up a kit. It’s a huge pain.
Absolutely love this video thank you so much for the information! I had a TCA peel done last week and was wondering how long I would need to wait to needle? I've stopped peeling and have 0 irritation
I’m so glad I watched this video. I’ve been lifting the micro needle up and down into place instead of dragging it across my skin. I’m gonna try this again!
Love your videos Penny.... you have helped me so much in understanding the process of microneedling. You are truly a blessing honey. Thank you so much for sharing!
Amazing... I went to school to become and esthetician but I didn’t take the state boards. 20 years later and now I just should of taken the exam. But I absolutely love skin care have been taken care of my skin since 13 years old. Every year around my bday I start looking for the new best thing. Well I have purchased three machines watching your videos and I was able to use your discount code, so thank you. This was the best video ever. Also this machine looks amazing. Getting this also. Thank you
thanks for the information, finally a video without nonsesical talking.
I am so happy I found your channel. You explanations are very thorough. At age 47 I feel there is hope for me with my fine lines, wrinkles and large pores. On the other hand, My son is 15 and he finished his 6 month treatment of Accutane 6 months ago. He has a lot of scaring and holes from where the cysts where. I have had micro-needling done by a dermatologist and is was very expensive. The dermatologists recommended to do this for my son to help with scaring. But he is afraid to do it. I figured I would get this system for myself and try it on him.
❤️❤️❤️Best needling video ever. Penny, wow! You are the best teacher. And, btw, your skin is looking gorgeous! I have one question. I loved what you said about the perimeter of the face. When I’m going to be washing my hair, I like to massage into my hairline to help get that more taut look. Can you needle into the hairline? I get that there are some nuances that would have to happen if you needed to numb and sterilize that area. Thanks ❤️ Also, in your Friday questions, could you address how you would incorporate needling along with micro current devices like the Ziip and NuFace; as well as light therapy masks and devices. I’d love to know what to do together and what not to do and for how long - days, hours, etc. Thanks!🥰
I love your channel! I think it’s better than Natural Kaos, who first turned me on to all this but I’m so happy I found your channel! I feel like in her videos she does things incorrectly or harshly and I’m not about that. I’m from Oregon too! I bought the A7 a couple days ago too and I’m so excited!
Thank you for your kind words! I’m excited for you also!
Keep in touch 💜
Love our state, don’t you? So beautiful here 🥰
Watching a pro do it just gives me confidence. It's really selfless of you giving out all these great tips for free, thanks. The Cos de Baha HMW Hyaluronic Acid is not available on Amazon Canada which is sad. Any tip where else to get it?
I believe that you can order from iHerb www.iherb.com/pr/cos-de-baha-hs-hyaluronic-acid-serum-2-fl-oz-60-ml/104140?gclid=CjwKCAjwo4mIBhBsEiwAKgzXOBKPgfzN9znyQsKAxDod7bVq1sN5Ac0donmxMFLM2brKKoIyCHhj2xoCVpQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Mam the precautions ur taking at home is incredible, the skin laser specialist i went to touched everything plus the phone that rang twice and went ahead touched my face after, i was frozen
Omg you look like the woman from terminator!!! The original Sarah? She was very pretty
You're like, the coolest 💁♀️. So real and relatable. I really liked your succint demo. Thanks!
Thank you! How nice of you!
So I did it tonight without a numbing cream. I have a high tolerance to pain so maybe my experience won't count but honestly I thought the pain would be worst. It was more of a discomfort. I felt pain around my lips and nose but it was it.
Thank you Penny❤️
So glad I saw your answer because I bought the numbing cream but idk about using it . And I’m pretty good with pain lol
I had a professional microneedle last month and loved it so much I bought a pen but omg I’m so nervous! this was really helpful though!!
Thank you for this straight forward full informative video
You are my beauty queen
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@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE hi just watch your video thank you for the info you prov ided for us beginners . Can you please where can we buy that product my email elsafernandez03 @gmail.com tnx muchly stay safe
Thank you so much for your videos on microneedling. I have now moved from a derma roller to a derma pen thanks to the knowledge you have shown
Just did my first microneedling session by myself! I’ve been going to a spa and getting them done paying $100 a pop! Glad to be at the point I’m comfortable doing it myself. Thank you for your guidance!
$100? I’ve paid $400 for Microneedling and PRP 😭 never again
I was going to say $100 is cheap!
This video was incredible. So informative and I feel much more confident about using my new pen for the first time.
Loving the needling series! Wondering how to use LED therapy in conjunction with needling. Thank for your willingness to share your knowledge. Really enjoy your channel and have learned so much about skin care ~♡~
Great question, I would also like to know.
Can you use essential oil while Micro needling or after ?
Bought my pen from Amazon a couple of days ago, cost me about $60. It came today, and I just got done trying it for the first time about 30 minutes ago, and MY GOSH, it is much different than a roller. Even at .25mm all over, it gives a sting, and there is a clear redness to the skin after. I didn’t use lidocaine, and I don’t plan to, but I can tell you that on the forehead it is going to give a bit of a sting, but worth it.
I put serums on, then topped it off with an Exuviance Vitamin C capsule mixed with a little moisturizer, and the sting the vitamin C gave was the best! I knew it worked the best this time.
Does microneedling help with large pores around the nose and cheeks? My pores always clog and I keep my skin clean and use hyraulonic acid before I add moisturizer. Thank you for any advice you can g to me. Mary H 🌹
it did for me
Thank you very much for the very detailed videos.I did my first micro needling at home with M8 pen.
If I have not found these videos I would be very reluctant doing micro needling at home.
That’s a lot Penny for such a great useful videos ☺️
Have you ever done this without numbing at all? :)) It can be quite the experience! I don't numb. So, I start out at 0.5 and do the whole face. Thank you for the tip on being sure to do the parameter - I will keep this in mind and pay extra attention to that. Then, I go back and will do certain key areas a bit deeper or just a bit more - lines around eyes, forehead and around the mouth. I try to do the 0.5 to adjust to the pain before going deeper. I noticed sometimes the pain isn't that bad and other times it really really hurts.
I heard that ovulating cycles has to do a lot with pain tolerance. Somewhere a week post menstruation women have the highest threshold.
I was whimpering while microneedling my neck at 1.0. I was basically holding back a scream it was so painful. I have the Derminator, though which I have heard needles with more force (heard that from youtuber who has both Dr Pen and Derminator).
I hope you can answer me, since this video is 3 years old?. I just saw your video and immediately bought the pen, the brush and the hyluronuc acid, why? Love your video and. I'm desperately looking for a solution for my chin and lower lip area . I have wrinkles that get worse when I talk😱. I paid $2,400😱 to a Dr to get Ultherapy and didn't work 😢😢.same wrinkles, a huge hole in my pocket 😢.So I'll be doing this, you sound very professional and love the fact you refer people to professionals if you deemed appropriate. Please help me by answering this question. Is microneedling good for this area? My chin?Also want to do it only in my frown and the area you started my forehead thank you!
Hi, I've been watching your videos and thanks to you I finally got the courage to do microneedling. I just did my first one, I used Dr. Pen A6 using the 12 needles with 0.5 all over my face and 0.25 under my eyes, however my face didn't get redness like yours afterward. I wonder if I did it incorrectly. Pls advice, thanks so much.
You need to go deeper. I had my face done at the doctors. They used 2.5. I now do it at home. I do 1 forehead, 1.5 temples, 2.0 for cheeks and chin. I bleed a lot, but get great results. If you don’t see bright redness, then it wasn’t Deep enough. Good luck.
Tupak196 can u do 2.5 at home?
@@whisperingpines8013 you should probably save 2.5 for the medispa. I have used 1.5 with no ill effects but you really do have to be vigilant with sanitation and after care (clean sheets, towels, don't touch your face, keep hair away, gently wash after 24 hours, no steam or sweating for a few days, no makeup for 48 hours and after that only mineral makeup, barrier sunscreen, paracetemol, no exfoliation 7 days before or 14 days after etc.)
@@tupak169 did you apply hyaluronic acid during microneedling ?
Hi Penn, I am very excited, because of you and your excellent channel, I ordered a dr pen a7 pro from dr pen which will arrive monday, I'm in UK. Xx
Your great videos have opened up a whole new world about skincare for me. So happy. I saw your calendar for micro needling on Friday Q & A. Confused about the difference between medical, cosmetic & nano micro needling. Medical is 4-6 weeks apart, but cosmetic is every week. What's the difference? Is the pen A6/7 medical? a face roller cosmetic? And nano is...? Thanks
You can continue to use the HA until the next day. I've heard the channels close after 2 hours...but I've heard Penny say she waits much longer
Best demo I have seen ❤️ I wish I watched this before I tried the Pen 2 months ago, lol. Def will be using your tips!
Is there anyway to aid collagen boosting in/on our lips?
You did such a great job with this video. Thank you so much. You have such beautiful eyes without makeup!
Thank you so much!
Your videos are getting me through this stay home order! I had medical microneedling for the first time one month ago. I had a histamine type reaction to either the procedure or the products used (swelling and severe redness for over a week, even tho taking benedryl). That said, I'm setting a lot of skin tightening and firmer skin now! I'm glad I found your videos to try this at home, using just HA and not going as deep as the esthetician did (she did 1mm on almost my entire face). Loving the gran active retinoid from the Ordinary, as I just get too flakey from tretinoin. Thank you!
Did you try this at home without a histamine reaction?
@@Joannabanana1989 yes!🙌 I’ve been doing it ever 6-8 weeks since! It looks so good and day or two after!
That is awesome. Is your routine close to this one or do you do something different? I have been too nervous to go above .3 cosmetic needling at home. I just use cos de baha HA and a copper peptide serum.
@@Joannabanana1989 I just use that HA. Dr Pen 🖊️ comes with guidelines for depth, regarding if you have thicker or thinner skin. The depths I do: 0.25 around my eyes, down my nose, and directly on my lips. 0.5 on my forehead, around my lip lines and upper cheeks. 0.75 lower cheeks, chin, and all the way down across my chest. I don’t wash off the serum after. Rather, I spritz my face with like an Evian water spray, then add oil (prickly pear or other pure organic oil). I needle at night and then GENTLY wash my face in the AM. Don’t use and retinol or acids for a few day following
Thank you for the detailed video. Very helpful. Which cartilage are you using though? How many needles , 16-32 ? Thank you in advance for the respond.
I've had Intensif RF and I have done several microneedling sessions to help with scars and syringoma on my ocular bone. They definitely have made a huge difference in the appearance of my syringoma. I've very excited to try this protocol. I had no idea you could do this treatment at home. Thank you!
Thanks to Penny for her advice to get the book Dermal Needling. I just found out that I cannot do it, after having Sculptra or Bellafil, EVER. Thank goodness I read the book. It's also not advised for anyone with an autoimmune disease,
It’s actually ok with Sculptra. I know setterfield warns against it (and I get it) but in practice I’ve seen tons of people with amazing results with needing and previous sculptra (I do both myself). Now....radiesse (which Setterfield says not to needle if you’ve had) I get. But then I would caution people from fever getting radiesse in the first place.
Autoimmune-definitely no no.
I’m so glad you got the book, such an awesome reference even beyond needling!
Can I working out the day after microneedling ? Thank you !!!
I microneedle at home. I leave my HA on afterwards-spray my face with filtered water- and relax while it draws the water into my skin.
I was wondering-what brand of Pen do you advise/use? Preferably one I can buy from the UK.
I have been using rollers- and hand stamping with square microneedle stamps. I feel your method would be more effective.
Thank you for your amazing videos! I feel better just watching them 😊
It was so good to rewatch this for a refresher. I have been really bad with my MMN practice, and it's been probably nearly 2 months since I last did it. I don't use numbing cream (although I have some), I just buck it up--and it really isn't bad at all. But the sneezing response, oy vey!
I don’t use it either. Don’t need it
It's been like... 6 years for me
Hello Penny. Love your channel, and I am highly impressed with your in-depth knowledge and communication skills; you’re a consummate professional! 😉
Here’s my long-winded history: For my 50th birthday, I had a series of in-office IPL sessions with luminous results. Unfortunately, I didn’t follow up with maintenance; I moved to another state, and these at-home devices were unavailable then. Oh, the joy of technology!
Fast forward. I’m now 64 and recently purchased a LED (red-blue-green light) device with bio wave, microcurrent, and massage functionality, and after a month, I love, love, love the results! While it’s not a magic wand, the dark spots have almost completely faded from my face and hands, and that glowy luminosity is returning. YAY!
Now it’s time to spearhead those deeper, niggly lines.
After loads of research, including your channel, I am now considering at-home microneedling.
And here’s my question: you recommend 9point and 12point needle cartridges in your protocol, but the Dr. Pen device comes with a starter kit of (5) 12 and (5) 36 cartridges.
In what instance or for what area would you use #36?
I can answer that. She has another video for cosmetic microneedling where the higher number of pins don't penatrate as deeply but make more superficial micro holes and then she puts on a protocol of serums right afterward because they can actually get IN the skin. But for this video/procedure you'd use the one with the fewer pins.
Thank you!!
What is the speed setting on the pen? Is LED light good to do immediately after needling?
I've done microneedling at a med spa a couple of times now and they always bring in the LED light machine as soon as they finish
YES 👍🏼 deeper penetration