This is the only episode that I can say has genuine human emotion. Jerry and Elane's conversation at the end sounds like one that I would have with someone and none of it feels forced or schmaltzy or contrived. I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but I feel like all of that DOES kind of have a message at the end, that you can't just turn your emotions on and off, even when you intentionally try to do so. That's not just a good message, but the fact that they didn't do it on purpose means it's sincere.
there is, in my opinion, at least one more scene with a genuine emotion: the one when kramer comes back from los angeles, and jerry throws him the keys to his apartment - as a sign of mature friendship that welcomes the other's flaws and absurdities, just because he's a friend.
@@theantimatter there are a few moments, and again, they’re effective because they’re not there to be sentimental, they’re there to serve the jokes. There’s also Jerry shaking Kramer’s hand and congratulating him for keeping his first name a secret for so long, Kramer saying that he learned ASL so he could communicate with his deaf cousin and Jerry, Elaine and Kramer goofing around with Kramer’s camcorder pretending that they’re making a documentary about a porn director and it’s star.
It really irritates me how NBC screwed around with the order of the early episodes. The Deal is SUPPOSED to be the finale of Season 2 but the only place it gets to play as that is on the DVD release (it's still screwed up on streaming.)
haha "no hugging - no learning" that's a great motto for a Sitcom - i had those family Sitcom where - everybody they learn something, and at the end there is a hug and the audience goes "oaaaa" -
I've seen interviews with Mel Brooks where he talks about his formula for comedy: he simply writes for himself. It it makes him laugh, that's it. No test screenings, no producer input. I think Larry works best that way.
I think that's the best method for any creative endeavor, don't try to please the crowd but go from the gut. I've long felt that collaboration requires compromise which ends in mediocrity. or per Gustave Le Bon “The work of a crowd is always inferior, whatever its nature, to that of an isolated individual.”
On the commentary for the episode I think it is Jason and Michael who joke about how Jerry seemed to have a big crush on Julia; and that whenever they did any scenes that were even remotely intimate Jerry would get extremely quiet and awkward.
Every time I hear about warren littlefield’s notes I realize how bad he could’ve made the show. He could’ve completely ruined one of the greatest shows ever with his hacky ideas.
I want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that Seinfeld is my favorite half hour sitcom. I want to write that reruns of Seinfeld came to the Comedy Central channel in October 2021.
Thank god that Jerry and Elaine did not get back together. NBC executives always shove a dumbass relationship in their sit-coms (Sam & Diane, Ross & Racheal, Pam & Jim). I dont know why people in Hollywood think there always has to be a love story in everything they make.
The executives need to but out and let the writers and the producers write the show how they imagine it. They are after all, the ones with the expertise and knowhow to create the show, not the executives.
have always seen the show at random a few episodes here and there , but have seen most.. it wasnt until my netflix binge of watching in order, that u realize everyone has a diffrent lover every episode.. like the 4 people with so much against them, were getting alot of action ...
Right? That never convinced me... George is always complaining about how no women wants him and he's an ugly guy that'll die alone, but episode after episode he's dating the hottest of women.
You seem to be forgetting that Jerry, Elaine, George, and Kramer had an unrealistically high number of dates and physical relationships throughout the series. You're also forgetting that Jerry and Elaine used to be an item before the series plot line started.
Cuz it works, Ross and Rachel was some great stuff, everybody was invested in it. Even Chandler and Monica became a great couple, seinfeld is a rare case for the relationship was not a good idea, vast majority of the time it works and helps with a good portion of the audience
Seinfeld worked because Jerry and Elaine didn't get together ; sorry folks Friends this was not
Seriously.
This is the only episode that I can say has genuine human emotion. Jerry and Elane's conversation at the end sounds like one that I would have with someone and none of it feels forced or schmaltzy or contrived.
I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but I feel like all of that DOES kind of have a message at the end, that you can't just turn your emotions on and off, even when you intentionally try to do so. That's not just a good message, but the fact that they didn't do it on purpose means it's sincere.
there is, in my opinion, at least one more scene with a genuine emotion: the one when kramer comes back from los angeles, and jerry throws him the keys to his apartment - as a sign of mature friendship that welcomes the other's flaws and absurdities, just because he's a friend.
@@theantimatter there are a few moments, and again, they’re effective because they’re not there to be sentimental, they’re there to serve the jokes.
There’s also Jerry shaking Kramer’s hand and congratulating him for keeping his first name a secret for so long, Kramer saying that he learned ASL so he could communicate with his deaf cousin and Jerry, Elaine and Kramer goofing around with Kramer’s camcorder pretending that they’re making a documentary about a porn director and it’s star.
@@gabe_s_videos There's also the scene where Elaine returns from her European trip and everyone's excited to see her.
It really irritates me how NBC screwed around with the order of the early episodes. The Deal is SUPPOSED to be the finale of Season 2 but the only place it gets to play as that is on the DVD release (it's still screwed up on streaming.)
haha "no hugging - no learning" that's a great motto for a Sitcom - i had those family Sitcom where - everybody they learn something, and at the end there is a hug and the audience goes "oaaaa" -
like B99
"now you listen to me..."
I've seen interviews with Mel Brooks where he talks about his formula for comedy: he simply writes for himself. It it makes him laugh, that's it. No test screenings, no producer input. I think Larry works best that way.
I think that's the best method for any creative endeavor, don't try to please the crowd but go from the gut. I've long felt that collaboration requires compromise which ends in mediocrity.
or per Gustave Le Bon
“The work of a crowd is always inferior, whatever its nature, to that of an isolated individual.”
to be larry david means to have "seinfeld" as a real life. how amazing is that?! he lived it!
Today it's called "friends with benefits."
Been there - Done that - after breaking up.
They were so ahead of their time with friends with benefits
On the commentary for the episode I think it is Jason and Michael who joke about how Jerry seemed to have a big crush on Julia; and that whenever they did any scenes that were even remotely intimate Jerry would get extremely quiet and awkward.
Every time I hear about warren littlefield’s notes I realize how bad he could’ve made the show. He could’ve completely ruined one of the greatest shows ever with his hacky ideas.
Warren's field is fallow and diminutive. "Alf" in Cosby sweaters.
Once again the network executive proves to be the dumbest one in the room.
every guy has pursued such a deal at some point in his life.
This negotiation scene always reminded me of a Nichols and May sketch.
3:00 I can't believe Julia didn't understand at the time what Larry wanted from that scene! That scene is quintessential "Seinfeld".
I want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that Seinfeld is my favorite half hour sitcom. I want to write that reruns of Seinfeld came to the Comedy Central channel in October 2021.
Jason totally Nails George beyond anything can be touched by anyone else.
Thank god that Jerry and Elaine did not get back together. NBC executives always shove a dumbass relationship in their sit-coms (Sam & Diane, Ross & Racheal, Pam & Jim). I dont know why people in Hollywood think there always has to be a love story in everything they make.
Sean McDougall
Um no
And that was that. That's Numberwang!
The executives need to but out and let the writers and the producers write the show how they imagine it. They are after all, the ones with the expertise and knowhow to create the show, not the executives.
have always seen the show at random a few episodes here and there , but have seen most.. it wasnt until my netflix binge of watching in order, that u realize everyone has a diffrent lover every episode.. like the 4 people with so much against them, were getting alot of action ...
Right? That never convinced me... George is always complaining about how no women wants him and he's an ugly guy that'll die alone, but episode after episode he's dating the hottest of women.
@@fbg5678 exactly..and not just getting a date.. he gets action !
Seinfeld had 2 guys with great ideas, great writers and NBC execs trying to ruin it
jerry must be most uncomfortable in it as he's sitting down for too long.
in 90% of entire show he's standing.
stand-up comedian 😂
@matthewbonk Truly streets behind.
i still wonder what could have became of jerry and elaine if they ended up together
Why must ever one be a couple in a show ?! Not ever one finds someone.
You seem to be forgetting that Jerry, Elaine, George, and Kramer had an unrealistically high number of dates and physical relationships throughout the series. You're also forgetting that Jerry and Elaine used to be an item before the series plot line started.
Finally - someone who agrees with me! I haven't been able to watch an episode since that happened. It was such a cop out.
lolz didn't notice the date, just sayin its a typical thing that works in most cases
Cuz it works, Ross and Rachel was some great stuff, everybody was invested in it. Even Chandler and Monica became a great couple, seinfeld is a rare case for the relationship was not a good idea, vast majority of the time it works and helps with a good portion of the audience
My fav episode of Seinfeld
I loved Sam and Diane together and I also loved Ross and Rachel!!! :) Who is Pam and Jim?
The Office
@@amariebloom Ohhhhh! I watched the office!!! Love Pam and Jim together. :)
I don't understand why everyone is bashing on The Office for Jim and Pam. If anything that makes the show a little better.
They are on the American version of "The Office".
Whatever you say guy who replies to a 4 year old comment.
same
You're right!
What about guy who replies to 5 year old comment?
Guess I’ll reply to a 7 year old comment
Lmao same
the office sucks