Oshin, Loveless, Souvlaki were all game-changing albums for me! Not strictly in the Dream Pop realm, but Wild Nothing and Beach Fossils are brilliant bands that have aesthetics that are close to the dream zone...
I saw a meme with the two girls from "the breakfast club" movie, sitting side by side, where under the gothic/outsider girl was written "shoegaze", and under the preppy/popular girl was written "dream pop".
Very interesting. I always thought that there is a shoegaze triangle, that consists of mbv, ride and slowdive, where mbv represents classic shoegaze, ride is shoegaze mixed with alternative rock and slowdive, of course, represents dream pop
Great video! I think this is something a lot of dream pop fans probably already know but since it wasn’t mentioned in the video or comments it could be said it the first “dream pop” song is “All I Wanna Do” by The Beach Boys in 1970.
Excellent video once again! These documentaries are really amazing, the visuals really match the subject matter. So excited about the fact Lynch was mentioned, he truly is one of my greatest inspirations. I wonder what you could say about the current wave of psychedelic music such as tame impala, babe rainbow or king gizz. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see what you have in store next!
A song that to me sounds like a very early and very counterintuitive influence on the emergence of dream pop is “Sara” by Fleetwood Mac from the 1979 Tusk album. There are probably some mechanics that are different from dream pop, but the song has a very dreamy, ethereal swirling sound and energy, with a jangly edge and intense rhythm that sounds sort of like a heartbeat. It goes thru a couple phases where the dreamlike quality swells and then almost evaporates, as if the dreamer is almost waking up. Lyrical references to drowning in a metaphorical sea, dreams that never really die, “a great dark wing within the wings of a storm.” Gorgeously layered trance like instrumentation and spooky, distant background vocals all masquerading as a conventional pop song. I hear kernels of what then became the sound associated with dream pop bands. On its surface FM would seem like an unlikely band to mention here but the song is worthy of consideration as an example of early dream pop influence.
A.R. Kane. Wow, brings me back. I first heard of them from their compilation album called Americana when it released in America. Amazing, dreamy, helped open up my young head to a new sound I hadn't heard at the time.
I have never known how to categorize The Chameleons, but they and the Cocteau Twins are my two all-time favorite bands, and Second Skin is my favorite track by the Chameleons. I feel like so much dream pop, shoegaze, and the post-punk revival of recent years was influenced by The Chameleons, even if most people have never heard of them.
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Loveless is the (importance equivalence) of Nevermind. Souvlaki is great but a bit disjointed and very overrated nowadays with Americans especially. imo JFAD is Slowdive’s pinnacle for me.
m j I did feel the same way for quite awhile but souvlaki had a more significant impact to me personally. When I listen to loveless I think of it as a basis to the “shoegaze” sound and mbv as the pioneer. In terms of the grunge era comparison mbv would be more closely related to husker du, both bands contributing significantly to the genre (shoegaze and grunge) laying down the groundwork of what is and what could become. Souvlaki is to Nevermind meaning it was the culmination of what the genre had to offer pre-album. It had the typical dreamlike sound but the album was structured like a dream in itself, each song correlating to every other in that manner. To this day I never skipped a song on that album
@@jakejuntilla1752 Imo Psychocandy would be the Husker in that scenario. Souvlaki is just not consistent to me whilst JFAD has continuity. To each their own. :) 👍
@@pedalpartners i hadnt seen the wishes video until you mentioned it so i never knew there was an actual connection between beach house and twin peaks, explains why i like them so much
There are connections with Cocteau Twins and David Lynch. He wanted This Mortal Coil- Song To the Siren in Blue Velvet. TMC was a 4AD supergroup and that song was Cocteau Twins. It later appeared in Lost Highway. The song was originally done by Tim Buckley which he performed on the last episode of The Monkees. He was the father of Jeff Buckley who dated Liz Fraser.
thanks for this comment! i was thinking of adding this, but decided against. i love both original & this mortal coil's version of 'song to the siren.' big fan of jeff buckley's music also. thanks for watching - do share! :)
Hi guys, love this video! Dream pop is definitely something that should have more attention. I recently published an album called Saga as I Am Invisible. It's kind of dream-pop/post-rock stuff, maybe you like it :-) Full of big muff, bass with chorus and synths... this is the way. Thank you for sharing this video, super interesting! Love your graphic style too! Have a nice day everyone
"I hear she's a recluse and is super private, but she has got the stuff. I think it was her boyfriend playing guitar on the song, washed in reverb like crazy, and they conjured magic." - David Lynch on This Mortal Coil's Song to the Siren I actually dedicated a playlist to this quote that I read in his biography "Room to Dream": open.spotify.com/playlist/5fHXg39sqoadOaGvQlpn4k?si=vwskJRecSHiWg-swKezHPw
@@pedalpartners Oxygene Pt 2 is my favourite. Klaus Schulze - Cyborg from 1973 is interesting too. Ashra - New Age of Earth 1977, 70's synth dream scape instrumental. And Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Revisited 1974. All great 70's analog synth.
I'm not clear on something you seemed to be saying, earlier in the video. Are you saying that you think A R Kane predated or influenced Cocteau Twins? If so, this is not the case. Cocteau Twins started in either 1979 or 1980. A R Kane started in 1986. I use to know Elizabeth Fraser, Robin Guthrie, and Simon Raymonde. I once told him that I had heard that he was friends with A R Kane, and that he had produced something by them. He said yes on both counts. In other words, Cocteau Twins were the spark that set off what became Dream Pop.
Yes, I remember this . I bought an AR Kane CD at the time because some tracks were produced or remixed by Robin Guthrie. Cocteau Twins were already the gods of shoegaze at that point as far as I remember. AR Kane had their own interesting sound, a mix of shoegaze, dance and dub reggae but never really lived up to the promise. The use of the term Dreampop more broadly is some post 2000-thing.
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@@pedalpartners absolutely! As a matter of fact I am. I’m in a Shoe gaze/dream pop band. Email me with your quotes becerraspace@gmail.com. Thank you, Best Michael
Interestingly, I've listened to Souvlaki multiple times and I'm not too crazy for any of the songs except Souvlaki Space Station. However, I like their self titled album a lot. I don't know why I don't find Souvlaki as special as everyone else.
it will grow on you! one of my favourite albums, one of the ones where i'm still finding new stuff in the production, the composition -- to this day! 'souvlaki space station' is my favourite song of all time, kinda tied with 'crazy for you.' 'alison' '40 days' 'machine g' are all cinematic masterpieces. 'here she comes' is a great build up to 'space station.' also, try listening to 'moussaka chaos' before 'space station' -- game changing!
" Basically What I'm Saying Is Listen To Lots Of Slowdive " An absolutely perfect summation.
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That's a pretty good answer to most questions and good solution to many problems.
Yeah I kinda do that all day anyway, so we're all set.
@@norlanderduwallis9074 good choice Ryland, good choice
Oshin, Loveless, Souvlaki were all game-changing albums for me! Not strictly in the Dream Pop realm, but Wild Nothing and Beach Fossils are brilliant bands that have aesthetics that are close to the dream zone...
love all those albums of course! beach fossils & wild nothing are great - had the pleasure of seeing them live, both really awesome bands!
Besides the music, my favorite part is Jack and Dustin are really good friends
Sunflower Bean is a good band in that same vein.
I saw a meme with the two girls from "the breakfast club" movie, sitting side by side, where under the gothic/outsider girl was written "shoegaze", and under the preppy/popular girl was written "dream pop".
haha i saw that too, pretty accurate
@@pedalpartners yeah, I thought "that's it!!"
Very interesting. I always thought that there is a shoegaze triangle, that consists of mbv, ride and slowdive, where mbv represents classic shoegaze, ride is shoegaze mixed with alternative rock and slowdive, of course, represents dream pop
The holy trinity!
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Great video! I think this is something a lot of dream pop fans probably already know but since it wasn’t mentioned in the video or comments it could be said it the first “dream pop” song is “All I Wanna Do” by The Beach Boys in 1970.
Excellent video once again! These documentaries are really amazing, the visuals really match the subject matter. So excited about the fact Lynch was mentioned, he truly is one of my greatest inspirations. I wonder what you could say about the current wave of psychedelic music such as tame impala, babe rainbow or king gizz. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see what you have in store next!
thanks my man! planning a lot of documentaries for the future, really fun to do!
I like the twangy, acoustic "Fade Into You" and the Velvet Underground-influenced title track "So Tonight That I Might See".
two great songs, love velvet underground also
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Oof I was waiting for this 👏 awesome stuff guys!
I’m honestly learning guitar just so I can make dream pop 😅
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I discovered "Dream Jazz" last week through the record label El Paraiso Records! Highly recommended
El Paraiso put out some cool stuff, will have to check me some dream jazz out
@@pedalpartners Some of the more dreamy tracks: Causa Sui - May Sun, Papir - Papir III.III and Martin Rude & Jakob Skott Duo - The Short Sun
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A song that to me sounds like a very early and very counterintuitive influence on the emergence of dream pop is “Sara” by Fleetwood Mac from the 1979 Tusk album. There are probably some mechanics that are different from dream pop, but the song has a very dreamy, ethereal swirling sound and energy, with a jangly edge and intense rhythm that sounds sort of like a heartbeat. It goes thru a couple phases where the dreamlike quality swells and then almost evaporates, as if the dreamer is almost waking up. Lyrical references to drowning in a metaphorical sea, dreams that never really die, “a great dark wing within the wings of a storm.” Gorgeously layered trance like instrumentation and spooky, distant background vocals all masquerading as a conventional pop song. I hear kernels of what then became the sound associated with dream pop bands. On its surface FM would seem like an unlikely band to mention here but the song is worthy of consideration as an example of early dream pop influence.
so it's basically shoegaze without the dirt ?
yeah :)
I realize I am pretty randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online ?
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@Kabir Thaddeus yea, been watching on FlixZone for since march myself :D
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I used to consider myself a big Cocteau Twins fan but had never heard Alice. Amazing song
it's beautiful
Dream pop has been my genre ever since I encountered The Radio Dept. There was no going back after that.
sweet! my introduction was slowdive, amazing band, amazing genre. thanks for watching :)
if you want to have some taste of japanese dreampop, please check out The Novembers' 2014 single "Romance". so good.
A.R. Kane. Wow, brings me back. I first heard of them from their compilation album called Americana when it released in America. Amazing, dreamy, helped open up my young head to a new sound I hadn't heard at the time.
that's so cool to hear. thanks for watching & do share!
Second skin by the chameleons is brilliant dreampop song
I have never known how to categorize The Chameleons, but they and the Cocteau Twins are my two all-time favorite bands, and Second Skin is my favorite track by the Chameleons. I feel like so much dream pop, shoegaze, and the post-punk revival of recent years was influenced by The Chameleons, even if most people have never heard of them.
Another Dream Pop gem: The Holy Drug Couple's album Moonlust
definitely!
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Souvlaki was the nevermind of shoegaze
basically haha. love 'em both. discovered nirvana first, then slowdive :)
What is Loveless the shoegaze version of?
Loveless is the (importance equivalence) of Nevermind.
Souvlaki is great but a bit disjointed and very overrated nowadays with Americans especially. imo
JFAD is Slowdive’s pinnacle for me.
m j I did feel the same way for quite awhile but souvlaki had a more significant impact to me personally. When I listen to loveless I think of it as a basis to the “shoegaze” sound and mbv as the pioneer.
In terms of the grunge era comparison mbv would be more closely related to husker du, both bands contributing significantly to the genre (shoegaze and grunge) laying down the groundwork of what is and what could become.
Souvlaki is to Nevermind meaning it was the culmination of what the genre had to offer pre-album. It had the typical dreamlike sound but the album was structured like a dream in itself, each song correlating to every other in that manner.
To this day I never skipped a song on that album
@@jakejuntilla1752
Imo Psychocandy would be the Husker in that scenario.
Souvlaki is just not consistent to me whilst JFAD has continuity.
To each their own. :) 👍
My favourite song atm is drug store Romeos - now you're moving 🔥I need more like this
haha love that there's a whole david lynch section here
YES. i am glad someone appreciated my mini david lynch documentary within a documentary
@@pedalpartners i hadnt seen the wishes video until you mentioned it so i never knew there was an actual connection between beach house and twin peaks, explains why i like them so much
There are connections with Cocteau Twins and David Lynch. He wanted This Mortal Coil- Song To the Siren in Blue Velvet. TMC was a 4AD supergroup and that song was Cocteau Twins. It later appeared in Lost Highway. The song was originally done by Tim Buckley which he performed on the last episode of The Monkees. He was the father of Jeff Buckley who dated Liz Fraser.
thanks for this comment! i was thinking of adding this, but decided against. i love both original & this mortal coil's version of 'song to the siren.' big fan of jeff buckley's music also. thanks for watching - do share! :)
@@pedalpartners no problem. I was around Jeff quite a bit in the 90's in Memphis. Actually pretty crazy the people you would meet there then.
loving that juicewrld shout out.
of course, who do you think this is?
thanks for watching honey
"Everybody else is doing it, so why can't why" is the only dreampop album that sold more than 8.000.000 records.
Alice is such a gorgeous song. by far my favorite by Cocteau Twins!
it's beautiful. thanks for watching!
It gives me beach vibes❤
nice ;)
Great doc!! there is so much behind this genres
thanks for watching Juan!
Underrated channel
thanks dude, share it around!
pedal partners what would you define a band like Broncho as?
@@koltrane70 never heard them tbh, will have to check them out!
"Falling" by Julee Cruise is one of my favorites. I like the reverb guitar and her vocals.
great song used on my favourite show!
Don't forget Gregg Araki's use of dream pop in all his films!
i will have to check out their work!
@@pedalpartners I recommend starting with Mysterious Skin! Robin Guthrie did the score
I have the walrus audio Slö reverb pedal and it is absolutely amazing! Everyone go buy it now.
Hi guys, love this video! Dream pop is definitely something that should have more attention. I recently published an album called Saga as I Am Invisible. It's kind of dream-pop/post-rock stuff, maybe you like it :-) Full of big muff, bass with chorus and synths... this is the way. Thank you for sharing this video, super interesting! Love your graphic style too! Have a nice day everyone
hey Filippo! thank you, i would love to hear it :)
Excellent documentary! Keep up the great work. 👌
thank you Peter!
This was great! Bring back old memories!
thanks Stefan!
Beautiful as always. Luca
thanks my man
"I hear she's a recluse and is super private, but she has got the stuff. I think it was her boyfriend playing guitar on the song, washed in reverb like crazy, and they conjured magic." - David Lynch on This Mortal Coil's Song to the Siren
I actually dedicated a playlist to this quote that I read in his biography "Room to Dream": open.spotify.com/playlist/5fHXg39sqoadOaGvQlpn4k?si=vwskJRecSHiWg-swKezHPw
Gregg Araki uses dream pop, shoegaze ans noise pop in his soundtracks all the time!
sweet!
Yes love it
Lynch hell yeah...Sadly Angelo passed in Dec '22 :(
I got this idea of doing a demo of Jean Michel Jarre meets Dream Pop. Great Doco, Thanks.
That is a fabulous idea! I used to listen to Oxygene quite a lot. The song "Peace Piece" by Jean Luc Pointy would invoke dream pop ideas as well.
thanks for watching! i was gifted one of his albums a few years back, will have to take a closer listen ;)
@@pedalpartners Oxygene Pt 2 is my favourite. Klaus Schulze - Cyborg from 1973 is interesting too. Ashra - New Age of Earth 1977, 70's synth dream scape instrumental. And Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Revisited 1974. All great 70's analog synth.
Would it be fair to say it's basically Kevin Shields when he's hungover on the couch on Saturday morning, compared to when he's partying?
dreams we've had
Hey man id kill for a psychedellic/dreampop tutorial around Sunbeam Sound Machine's sound
that might be fun at some point!
Specifically around some of the really textured stuff on wonderer
@@pedalpartners also loved your production tutorial you posted that one time. More of that stuff would be so cool also.
@@lochlynreed2253 noted. thanks man! wonderer is a sick album. thanks for watching, be sure to share it around dude!
@@pedalpartners thank you guys. Your content is completely unparalleled here and hope you know all of us appreciate it so so much.
Cocteau are soooo dreamy!
indeed!
Dream Pop is basically Silent Hill music
I'm not clear on something you seemed to be saying, earlier in the video. Are you saying that you think A R Kane predated or influenced Cocteau Twins? If so, this is not the case. Cocteau Twins started in either 1979 or 1980. A R Kane started in 1986. I use to know Elizabeth Fraser, Robin Guthrie, and Simon Raymonde. I once told him that I had heard that he was friends with A R Kane, and that he had produced something by them. He said yes on both counts. In other words, Cocteau Twins were the spark that set off what became Dream Pop.
it sounded more like he was suggesting that they coined the term, or it was coined in regards to them.
@@sunsetappleton6080 Ok, that makes more sense.
Yes, I remember this . I bought an AR Kane CD at the time because some tracks were produced or remixed by Robin Guthrie. Cocteau Twins were already the gods of shoegaze at that point as far as I remember. AR Kane had their own interesting sound, a mix of shoegaze, dance and dub reggae but never really lived up to the promise. The use of the term Dreampop more broadly is some post 2000-thing.
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thank youuuuu
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Very interesting video! I learned a lot about the Dream-pop genre. May I ask what video effect it is your using?
thank you, glad you enjoyed this video! i put an introduction to my visuals up on patreon.com/pedalpartners (hot pink tier). i also make music videos etc. if you're ever after something :)
@@pedalpartners absolutely! As a matter of fact I am. I’m in a Shoe gaze/dream pop band. Email me with your quotes becerraspace@gmail.com. Thank you,
Best
Michael
I like your edits
thank you very much, appreciate it!
Can You make a How To Sound Like Placebo please? Their sound si amazing
hey Daniel! that could be cool, thanks for watching :)
Interestingly, I've listened to Souvlaki multiple times and I'm not too crazy for any of the songs except Souvlaki Space Station. However, I like their self titled album a lot. I don't know why I don't find Souvlaki as special as everyone else.
it will grow on you! one of my favourite albums, one of the ones where i'm still finding new stuff in the production, the composition -- to this day! 'souvlaki space station' is my favourite song of all time, kinda tied with 'crazy for you.' 'alison' '40 days' 'machine g' are all cinematic masterpieces. 'here she comes' is a great build up to 'space station.' also, try listening to 'moussaka chaos' before 'space station' -- game changing!
@@pedalpartnersIt might be my favorite album of all time now
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thank you very much for watching! :)
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Would Vansire consider to be dream pop?
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Surely juice wrld is lucid dream pop
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You mean... he was dreaming if he thought Sting wouldn’t run up on him for that copy right infringement.
Cigarette After Sex..no one does it better. imo