Treantmonk's Guide to Wizards:The Enchanter lvl 1-4

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2019
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  • @TreantmonksTemple
    @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +20

    Check out the other parts of this build:
    Levels 5-10: ruclips.net/video/Ow8_iKCEGy0/видео.html
    Levels 11-20: ruclips.net/video/LDX835ceRu4/видео.html
    See the final Build here: ddb.ac/characters/16225793/hmo3Cf

  • @SharanjitPaddam
    @SharanjitPaddam 4 года назад +74

    Summary
    1: Yuan-ti Pureblood. Wizard 1: Arcana, Insight, Friends, Chill Touch, Minor Illusion, Mage Armor*, Shield*, Sleep*, Absorb Elements*, Find Familiar, Comprehend Languages. SA 8/14/13/15/10/12. Criminal: Deception, Stealth. Dagger, Arcane Focus, Explorer’s pack.
    2: Wizard 2: Enchanter, Detect Magic, Tasha’s Hideous Laughter*
    3: Wizard 3: Misty Step*, Web*, Sleep(*)
    4: Wizard 4: Resilient Constitution, Frostbite, Mirror Image*, Flaming Sphere*, Tasha’s Hideous Laughter(*)

    • @marky6456
      @marky6456 3 года назад +3

      You're the MVP. It's great to be able to come back and look through this level by level.

  • @smbakeresq
    @smbakeresq 4 года назад +48

    Enchanters were and are heavily underrated because they’re not a damaged focused class therefore resist the mathematical capture of optimization. It’s hard to quantify their effect unless you have actually seen it.
    Essentially they are screwing with enemies turns, which is a defensive feature. In any campaign with a lot of non-combat interactions they are the best subtype IME.
    I do wish other subclasses had features like the enchanter which really tied into the subclass. Conjurer has good features, but they only sort of tie into conjuration school.

  • @BlackTempleGaurdian
    @BlackTempleGaurdian 4 года назад +32

    I didn't notice before, but you've gotten a lot smoother at speaking.

  • @evansmith2832
    @evansmith2832 3 года назад +13

    Enchanter benefits from an artificer dip way more than other wizards. Basic gameplan is cast your big concentration battlefield control first round, then second round you use hypnotic gaze and sanctuary on yourself as a bonus action. Along with medium armor and shield proficiency, your defense is better than most martials, let alone wizards.

    • @mme.veronica735
      @mme.veronica735 3 месяца назад +1

      Wouldn't necessarily need to be Artificer for this, if you changed around your ability scores Cleric might be a better option. Having healing word available for a pop up on a downed ally even when using Hypnotic Gaze could be more crucial than keeping wisdom low for more Dexterity

    • @jlstudio1050
      @jlstudio1050 Месяц назад

      ​@@mme.veronica735I disagree, having con save proficiency is most likely better than heavy armor. You are a caster so you want good dex for initiative, meaning you are most likely to lose value when using heavy armor. Also heavy armor requires strength, unless you are a dwarf. Speed is important for this strat considering the poor range on hypnotic gaze.

  • @migueldelmazo5244
    @migueldelmazo5244 4 года назад +15

    Great job. It's good to see how you change the build based on making "sub-optimal" choices. I love min-maxing, but there is definitely a role for making a character interesting. 5e is generally well balanced enough that taking away a small advantage doesn't gimp the character, and it can open up a lot of variety.
    Hypnotic gaze can make kidnap missions a lot, lot easier which is something fireball doesn't necessarily do....
    Thanks again, High Optimagus.

  • @Lastofthesigilites
    @Lastofthesigilites 2 года назад +19

    The eldrich Adept feat would make this build a God. Mask of Many Faces + Friends would be amazing

  • @AtholIronworks
    @AtholIronworks 4 года назад +6

    I can't wait for the illusionist video !!!! I have a campaign coming up as an illusionist and I love your in-depth analysis and input.

  • @captainbarbossa289
    @captainbarbossa289 2 года назад +2

    I really love the flavor of a “Snake-Charmer” Wizard! Thanks for the build.

  • @KevShaw808
    @KevShaw808 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video. I had no idea this class could be so potent. I will have to try this one out sometime.

  • @mernix
    @mernix 4 года назад +1

    I immediately clicked "Life" after the scene from Jungle Book :D Good guide. May try this one day. Thanks.

  • @swxqt6826
    @swxqt6826 2 месяца назад

    I had the interesting idea of tying a loop that you throw over the creature’s head after using Hypnotic Gaze. It’s Incapacitated and so you shouldn’t have any trouble doing so.
    The idea is that you can then drag the creature with you and keep it within 5 feet. The idea then is to more easily take the creature with you away from everything else.
    Although you’d definitely have to ask your DM before trying this. Some would say you move at half speed, while others might say that dragging the creature would require your action as it’s not actually a grapple.

  • @ben5056
    @ben5056 4 года назад +6

    Playing a bounty hunter with this would be cool. You charm them then grapple them to jail with no extra saves (edit: you would have to grapple them first then use your action on the next turn to charm them, then drag them with your move)

  • @joshdragonboy
    @joshdragonboy 4 года назад +2

    Hooray the one I'm most excited for! Before I watched your guide on wizard schools and what not I already wanted to play an Enchantment Wizard as it, and illusion, sounded the most interesting and fun to me. Sure evocation is great for damage, but sounds a bit boring to me sometimes. Even a level 1 this guide is kinda making me feel a bit better about myself as it had a lot of what I was considering going for if I ever play a wizard. I imagine playing them as a spy, trying to work their way into human colonies and somehow weakening them from the inside and sending strategic information back home to prepare for an attack.

  • @mateusdmt5505
    @mateusdmt5505 4 года назад +6

    Just use a disguise before doing friends. Hat of disguise makes friends OP. Disguise yourself as the enemy leader, use friends on everyone, start a riot without save throws.

    • @TreantmonksTemple
      @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +6

      Good idea!

    • @ProfBrunoClemente
      @ProfBrunoClemente 3 года назад +2

      This is an amazing strategy and I've used it with great results ! Friends is, ironically, more useful to create enemies than, well... friends!
      Sadly, a low level Wizard doesn't have access to many spells and cantrips and is heavily reliant on some spells early game, but I'll grab it again with a new character I'm playing as soon as possible.

  • @arsov9885
    @arsov9885 Год назад

    The abjurer start was great but this is interesting too.

  • @d3c0yBoY
    @d3c0yBoY 4 года назад +9

    This makes me happy

  • @nexcz9289
    @nexcz9289 4 года назад +3

    If you use Hypnotic Gaze and move away I assume you don't provoke opportunity attack even though it stops working? (assuming their range is 5 feet)

  • @the_brutal_king4314
    @the_brutal_king4314 4 года назад +1

    What cantrips and ability scores would we be seeing for the Variant Human build?

  • @quonomonna8126
    @quonomonna8126 3 года назад

    friends cantrip is redundant with your hypnotic gaze

    • @benjaminkowal7310
      @benjaminkowal7310 3 года назад

      Unless you can derive some advantage from making the npc you charm into becoming hostile to you.

  • @jordanflutes
    @jordanflutes 4 года назад

    You basically made my current enchanter :P

    • @TreantmonksTemple
      @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +6

      I choose to see that as definitive proof that we are both brilliant.

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 Год назад

    With friends cantrip and suggestion I'd definitely take disguise self or maybe even go for changling race. It's either that or a dip into warlock for mask of many faces also good with a charisma-boosted race. With spells like suggestion and mass suggestion, I'd take linguist as a feat and aim for languages that are known by types of monster that don't understand common.

  • @khyron96
    @khyron96 Год назад

    I took 1 level of Fathomless warlock and then went enchanter. BOOM Siren! Weaponized the bonus action, all the underwater abilities , swim speed etc...

  • @Vukela22
    @Vukela22 4 года назад +6

    What about using hypnotic gaze out of combat? It gives creatures charmed condition, so maybe we can use it as better version of friends?

    • @TreantmonksTemple
      @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +4

      Except it incapacitates your pals

    • @Vukela22
      @Vukela22 4 года назад +3

      "An incapacitated creature can’t take actions or reactions."
      To me it doesn't seem like the condition prevents speech or listening.

    • @Vukela22
      @Vukela22 4 года назад +2

      P.S. Contrast incapacitated condition with paralyzed.

  • @HeirophantCarneus
    @HeirophantCarneus 4 года назад +2

    These videos are excellent sir. You a master of the craft. Is there somewhere one could pour over your builds in written form?

    • @TreantmonksTemple
      @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +1

      I post a link to the completed build in the video description, but no, there is no written version of my videos.

    • @HeirophantCarneus
      @HeirophantCarneus 4 года назад +1

      @@TreantmonksTemple that's cool, I'm reading through your guide to wizards on your site and loving the in depth spell analysis. I'll just have to wait for the Necromancer build video 😁 happy RP heavy optimancy to you!

  • @PhilUpOnLife
    @PhilUpOnLife 3 года назад +1

    How would this go with a 2 lv dip into trickster cleric?

  • @lelandfallon8273
    @lelandfallon8273 2 года назад

    What do you think if you make the enchanter only use enchantment spells and concept wise the enchanter liked to use others do his fighting for him and keep himself clean. Using find familiar to use the touch spells do the range Is 100. My first game is Thursday and I made same race as this enchanter. And that is my concept I'm doing. I think I only have like 2 damage spells total and he's starting at lvl 6

  • @sesimie
    @sesimie 4 года назад

    Thematic Builds i like. Combat aint everything.

  • @zachdurocher1166
    @zachdurocher1166 3 года назад

    cast suggestion
    "go away"

  • @kethos017
    @kethos017 4 года назад +8

    Algorithm +1

  • @tlgeros1
    @tlgeros1 6 месяцев назад

    It seems in dnd the best enchantment spells are only available to bards or clerics.

  • @Porphyrogenitus1
    @Porphyrogenitus1 4 года назад +3

    > Someone like this is going to be playing cards
    Who is the small dark stranger there?
    Maverick was her name
    Slidin' the trail to who knows where
    Pluck is her companion
    Scamming is her game
    She's gonna bring you hell
    Fare thee well goes your will
    Luck is the hero that she loves the best
    Livin on jacks and queens
    Maverick is quite better than the rest
    She's gonna bring you hell
    Fare thee well goes your will
    Luck is the hero that she loves the best
    Livin on jacks and queens
    Maverick is quite better than the rest
    Maverick is quite better than the rest!!
    ruclips.net/video/Tfz5tv_dfLA/видео.html

  • @jamesdefrange
    @jamesdefrange 2 года назад +1

    Both hypnotic gaze and flaming Sphere are an action…how it it possible to have someone in a trance and cast flaming sphere?

    • @thomazeblen
      @thomazeblen 2 года назад +2

      you can move flame sphere with a bonus action

  • @esgeir9499
    @esgeir9499 2 года назад +1

    Why use chill touch on an undead if it won't do damage? If it requires a to hit roll to impose disadvantage then wouldn't it be better to take the dodge action?

    • @johnnyd9174
      @johnnyd9174 Год назад

      Or just use hypnotic gaze. I thought that was a weird comment.

  • @FuelDropforthewin
    @FuelDropforthewin 4 года назад

    Getting in an intrigue heavy political game. Tag teaming my enchanter with a diviner for making the enemy malleable. Also, Hypnotic Gaze is awesome for "negotiations" since charmed creatures give you advantage on your charisma checks against them and there's no charmed creature style "they know they were charmed" backlash.

  • @joeld2925
    @joeld2925 2 года назад +1

    This character concept is obviously crafted with combat in mind, and other than a few level 1 rituals, has surprisingly little to offer the party outside of combat. Here is how I developed my enchanter so far:
    Ability scores: Str 10 (I hate not being able to clear 10-foot pits), Dex 14, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 12.
    Race: variant human, prodigy feat (proficiency + expertise deception, proficiency poisoner's kit, 1 additional language)
    Background: custom, with forgery kit, 1 language, nature, medicine, and criminal background feature.
    Level 1: control flames, mending, minor illusion, alarm, comprehend languages, disguise self, detect magic, fog cloud, shield
    Level 2: charm person, mage armor
    Level 3: misty step, Nystul's magic aura
    Level 4: +2 intelligence, fire bolt, arcane lock, invisibility
    Level 5: fear, tiny servant
    (it's a party of 5 with few combats - don't need to spend too many spell picks on combat spells)

  • @kirbo1248
    @kirbo1248 Год назад

    Level ten twin Psychic lance.... Buy one get one free turn+ damage and uh twin silvery barbs if they pass the save

  • @tpete096
    @tpete096 2 года назад

    Invisibility doesn't work with hypnotic gaze, the target has to be able to see you. It's in the description

    • @thomazeblen
      @thomazeblen 2 года назад +1

      or hear, so it works

    • @jasperjones8401
      @jasperjones8401 2 года назад

      "If the target can see OR hear you"
      It works

  • @markcronan
    @markcronan 4 года назад

    I was surprised you did not take Find Familiar at lower levels. Is it because most turns are spent doing something the Familiar cannot help with?

    • @cmikewilson
      @cmikewilson 4 года назад

      He took it at level 1.

    • @markcronan
      @markcronan 4 года назад

      I must have missed it. Thanks Mike.

  • @BR4IN1N4J4R
    @BR4IN1N4J4R 4 года назад

    So very weird question, but what is your opinion on the new UA cantrip? Personally, I think it's a valuable tool akin to Chill Touch or Frostbite, but d8 Psychic and essentially Bane on their next save opens the door for the strong "Save or Suck" spells to make a return to prominence in 5e

  • @archmagemc3561
    @archmagemc3561 4 года назад

    Mountain Dwarf feels like they'd be a good race for this, since they can get into heavy armor @ 4. Yeah they don't get any int bonuses, but you can get 16 in via point buy so thats not an issue and dex isn't as important since your wearing heavy armor. Still a bit more gimmicky,, but having an AC of 20 with basic magic items at level 4 is pretty good.

    • @Vernoan3
      @Vernoan3 4 года назад

      Highest you can go to in point buy is 15.

    • @rpranger6115
      @rpranger6115 4 года назад

      Oddly enough, because neither Mountain Dwarves nor Heavily Armored feat give you proficiency in shields, you will get better AC by being a Hobgoblin with 14 Dex (you can start with 13 with point buy) and getting the Medium Armor feat. And Hobgoblin boosts your intelligence (of course, hobgoblins might have in-setting disadvantages that Dwarves won't)

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 4 года назад

      @@rpranger6115 Very good point. Also saves an ASI upgrade. The race disadvantage thing isn't too huge if its a high magic setting, since glamor charms can just be used. Thats how I'd justify it to my DM if I wanna do a race like that.

  • @jacobmoll2878
    @jacobmoll2878 4 года назад +3

    Why not gnome for the suggested race?

    • @muker83
      @muker83 4 года назад +9

      As a Gnome it's tougher to maintain eye contact for the Hypnotic Gaze!

    • @jakestavinsky3480
      @jakestavinsky3480 4 года назад +2

      @@muker83 As a short person, i sadly agree

    • @TreantmonksTemple
      @TreantmonksTemple  4 года назад +17

      An oversight on my part. See what I did there?

  • @twinkacast
    @twinkacast 4 года назад +1

    Enchanters are straight up evil so I haven't had a chance to play one yet. Like morally worse than necromancers

  • @Nomore304s
    @Nomore304s 3 года назад

    Dm said no to yuan ti :(

    • @Sajuek
      @Sajuek 3 года назад

      Good lol

    • @akmi1931
      @akmi1931 2 года назад

      That’s when you say no to that DM

  • @CaitSith87
    @CaitSith87 4 года назад

    Probably halfelf or changeling would be better. Deception and persuasion for free. Sorry to early. :)