New players can't play World of Warcraft
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- World of Warcraft has been the most popular MMO since it released, unfortunately Blizzard and the wow community are deterring new players away. This is a big issue that wow has been facing for some time, and I hope it is dealt with, otherwise this will be the end of wow
Today I learned having to read quest text is Anti New Player.
Pretty much.
Homie didn't read the quest then complains about not knowing what to do for the quest
The biggest way to tell this is satire is his intro is "I want classic, but with all the addons inbuilt"
So........retail?
But outside that, retail is just couple dungons, BAM, 70. Go raid.
But then going "I want to raid without the work"? Bro, just go play an idle clicker lmao.
But legit, this has to be a pisstake, theres no way he can unironically believe this.
You don't need ad -ons, you need to read! lol
you know in the begining before TBC or earlie the question mark were not above the questgiver after finishing the quest - You you lost the questgiver -good luck Until today i feel like im being cheated by Blizzard with the yellow mark above the queastgiver..ITS too easy
its been like this for a LONG time everyone expects you top know everything
My 2 cents :
I would say retail is more noob friendly for exemple QoL addon you take for classic are implanted in game in retail.
point 1 : Where is the quest: necessity for add on.
For quest you don't need an addon you need to read the quest. You're new, don't try to rush the game read stuff and they will tell you where/what you are suppsose to do. With add on you dont immerse yourself into the game, the lore and stuff like that, I find sad that new players dont even try to read the content and just want to rush.
Point 2. Its slow. Yeah once again go play retail its faster to leveling and the game is more aimed at endgame content. Classic is/was more about the journey and slow pace.
The community point i more or less agree. For noob, try to play with guildmate or say you're noob they are friendly people too.
In my opinion, AddOns should be Quality of Life, not a Requirement!
I do use Bartender, so I can move the bars around and have extra action bars on the screen (as well as configuring 1½ bars for use with my 18 G-Keys). And I use Immersion to make the quest text easier to read, because of poor eyesight. And I have been using Titan Panel since either BC or Vanilla for the extra info such as FPS/Ping, Gold, and Coordinates. Oh and I also use an AddOn called BadBoy AntiSpam to deal with the goldspam messages. However, I stopped using Deadly Boss Mods back in Legion, since I was too used to the standards of FFXIV.
Retail is far more complicated than Classic.
As a player since actual vanilla WoW, your opinions are completely valid, and everyone saying that your a big baby or whatever in the comments is completely missing all your points and are deliberately trying to misrepresent what you are complaining about. This has been an issue with the WoW community since we practically started. They don't like change, and are basically the same people who don't relearn changes when they come out, and complain about it. They learned it once and don't wanna learn again themselves so they want you to deal with the same crappy shit your complaining about, because "I had to learn it". The fact that the first time you got kicked from your heroic you said "This sucks, but maybe its me" and went to search your rotation and such is the RIGHT THING to do. These players generally never fucking do anything like that, they just reque and fuck up again and get told to fix it and DON'T FIX ANYTHING. Thats why people like me who do know wtf is going on get frustrated and just give you a chance if you don't get it, we kick you and move on. The game is a GIANT waste of ducking time, and there is every reason to complain about it. People aren't trying to always be toxic, its mainly just that, we try to help new players and they DON'T LISTEN, they DON'T LEARN. "Hey don't stand in the fire" and then they stand in the fire and ignore you again and again. Like they just don't give a shit about your advice and or don't care about improving, and so people make that assumption about you. This sucks for everybody, but it is what it is at this point. I as someone who played the original game want all the features your talking about, and im tired of having my time wasted. These people just white knight blizzard and act like your the problem, when they do the same shit, and kick people for wasting their time while saying its not a waste of time. I gave up on that side of this community, and make all my own raids, play with my friends mostly, etc so i don't have to deal with their stupidity. You are not the problem, it is a mix of Blizzard's Philosophies, and old head players refusing to realize that being a new player when a game is new, is not the same as being a new player when everyone knows everything about the game. Its not fresh WoW for everyone like it was when they started, and it does need to change. The other this is again Blizzard making changed historically has been bad decisions on their end, and implemented so poorly people advocate for them not to ruin the game by touching it. I don't recommend picking up WoW now, or ever, just don't if your not willing to suffer through the bullshit. It wont change ever. The people still playing mostly is because we have friends or already a part of a guild etc for years, and mainly just log in to raid.
Play retail, that is more noob friendly.
If you want to play Classic without addons, you have to read quest text, and have wowhead up in the background if the text is unclear.
Retail has quest tracker in the game which is quite handy.
And being kicked from a few dungeon groups is expected. You where unlucky with those. There are always some rotten apples in the player base who just wants to min max everything, and if you don't do it their way, they get super irritated, which I love to add fuel to the fire to.
By the way, addons is optional.
I played wow when I was twelve, we had thotbot back then, that was it, and I had a blast. If you're not having fun it's because of two things here. One you're not paying attention to your quest text, and two you're too used to a gameplay loop that doesn't just rail road you, but is actively pushes the cart down the rails for you.
To be fair this is one of the biggest L take what I ever seen about MMO-s.
First of all you say fuck blizzard but you gave them money for a level boost wich is insane to me when you doesent even know how to play the game. Thats what the leveling is for, making sure players understand their classes and the basic game mechanincs. Do not be suprised when people doesent want to play with you when you use the boost and doesent know anything about your class.
Secondly If you have no time to play games (But you have time to make a video and complain about it) why in the seven hells do you wanna play MMO-s, those are the grindiest . Go play something what doesent require you to grind your ass off.
Third, you doesent need addons to play Classic, you can READ the quests and figure it out.
Overall I think these games are not for you quit them and go find happines somewhere else, do not try to change them for people who enjoy them the way they are.
playing solo or playing solo ?
me an fps player tried classic wow and quit after having to install addons , gss wll try again later
To translate the title: "Lazy and spoiled new players can't play World of Warcraft" specifically classic WoW.
If what you're looking for is a 2h a day playtime to chill, play retail since its designed for that. Older versions might be simpler, but also way way grindier. In retail you get to max level in a cpl days at most, breeze through the leveling and have extremely accesible modes to learn (regular dungeons, LFR). If you wish to find a more challenging experience then you start doing some mythic+ or normal/heroic raids.
I seen an experience buff and thought now is the time to join. I hate this generation. Ill wait until i can look up step by step guides woth extra fast experience so i can skip the whole point of the game so i can get to the end and complain that it doesnt make sense...
Got to 85 in 2 days, I did solo dungeons leveling as a blood dk so no gear was collected. So I went threw regular dungeons farming up gear so I can do heroics. Keep in mind I generally over prepare.
I farmed all the way until I had atleast 333 in every slot.
I was working but it was about 3 days before the raid was released.
I went threw heroics and went in a dungeon I had even done in regular, we went threw and it was established from the start of the dungeon that I was new to this one. When we went threw seemed as if the healer was abit undergeared as they barely even kept up to my self heals. Got scary at somepoints almost as if they werent paying attention.
We didnt wipe but got to the final boss, we wiped and they told me it was my fault because I kept the boss on the stairs and wqs calling me a noob, I was like well no one clarified, we all knew I was new to this dungeon, so I clarifed about where I tanked. Funny enough 3 anwsers were all different.
We picked one and went with it. We wiped again. Why? I noticed the same shit happened. The boss shoots arrows that you have to dodge and some ability you have to kick.
They weren't doing any of that. The tank postion litterally barely mattered and yet they blamed me.
They all left, and had a group that was all apart of the same guild, we cleared it in a minute. They waited before looting the boss for my response on how idiotic the other players I was with were lmao.
Had another stupid experience in Wrath but therr is always people who think they are good but are actrually trash. Like its litterally just a number sequence game, no real skill learning 1,3,5,2 repeat..
I've always kept with a dungeon group even though I am annoyed on how lacking they are at the game because I know either two things they are learning or they don't pay attention. Had to leave one timr in Wrath, healer and I had crazy good gear, but since I am a blood dk, I barely can kick. They kept dying because they kept sttacking the wrong person and wasnt kicking the heals so we litterally fought it for 40 minutes and I was spamming kick the heals yet nothing was done..
PSA: Classic is for those who want old game experience
for others the choice is the retail version
you don't need any addons
every boss room should spawn a teleportation beacon after killing the boss that way whenever you die you dont have to walk back to where you died and also when you die you should respawn to the closest beacon
whole point of classic is to keep it classic. its not meant to be easy or simple, its .... classic! :)
When the OG came out I was 19 and been playing ever since. That is the way it use to be. You actually have to sit down and read the quest and find out where to go. Mods/addons didn't come out till much much later on.
i, for one, dont like that leveling is too fast
around 1:20 you said you need an addon for the quest you really don't. just read the quest imagine right.
The core leveling experience for a new player is terrible.
1. Beneath level 30 or so (give or take a few levels based on your class), everything dies in about 3 seconds. This feels pretty terrible on any class you play, because you have no time to really use any of your abilities or develop any strategies other than hit your highest damage dealing attack. After this point, the scaling gets worse in the opposite way - mobs become extremely tanky but still deal no damage. It's bad on both fronts and doesn't feel like you're actively progressing.
2. You never really run into other players when leveling a new character. You may see, at most, one to three players in a hub, and maybe one player generally out in the world. There's an endless ocean of content, but it's all dead content that Blizzard abandons. This is a terrible approach to game design. It's like butter, spread over too much bread. So your chance of player interactions are extremely low.
3. The game kinda just throws dungeons at you as the best way to level. Yes, you group with 4 other players, but at least three of those players will be absolutely mute. And if you talk too much, you might just get kicked because you're not focusing on your role, or playing too slowly to keep up. So not only are you removed from the strongest element of an MMO (the world), but you're stuck with players who honestly just want to finish leveling. Speaking of leveling...
4. Players who typically sit through leveling a new toon make up the majority of new toons in world. These people don't communicate with any new player and typically runs endless dungeons.
5. When you finally join other players in the current expansion, you're forced to dump story lines, quests, and loot you otherwise would have obtained - because every piece of gear in Dragonflight has 10x the stats. It's like jumping from Vanilla to BC all over again.
6. Every aspect of the end-game encourages little to no communication with players you interact with. If the chat system was removed from WoW, the only thing that might suffer is that Raid Finder wipes would be harder to place blame on someone. Mythic+ is on a timer, you can't strategize or talk because you've gotta work at max speed to keep up. Raids are done either over coms (you're not allowed to speak) on Discord (an outside app you have to download) or has 0 communication except for the raid leader dressing down someone who failed mechanics (causing a massive wipe + waste of time for everyone involved) or a quick explanation on how to do the fight. There's 0 interaction with other players except the negative ones when other players let you down.
7. Joining a guild doesn't even give you a place to chat most of the time, because each guild has discord, and they all expect you to hop on DC and talk there. Again, removing chatting from the game seems to be the intentions of the developers.
8. There's no reason to group up in open world at all. Every player as a big DPS cooldown, a self heal, a big defensive, a crowd control, an AoE - all players are so sufficient that interacting with others is pointless. Gw2, which has a similar system, at least encourages joining groups on the fly and you'll always run into people who are doing something. Most maps have at least 20-30 players in them. Imagine if you could go to Redridge in retail, right now, and find 25 players running around doing their own thing. How alive would the world feel to you? If you went to say, Loch Modan and there were players there. In Retail. Gw2 does that every every map, because every map has a reason to return to it. I could pick any place in the game and think of a reason to go there. Can't do that in WoW.
The fact of the matter is, no matter what you do in Retail WoW as a new player, you feel like you're playing a dead game devoid of players. Remove the players and you remove the biggest aspect of an MMO. The players need to be in world. The veteran players need a reason to be there.
The gameplay matters less than the people you meet along the way. I met a random person in Gw2, and became friends with them. And they told me that if I didn't talk to them, they probably would have quit the game. They finished two expansions worth of content since then.
It's gonna be a hard take for sure, but i got nothing to lose so here's my honest unfiltered take on this:
This is another modern day gamer review who wants to get invested to the game but dont want to invest to the game. Let me explain: The walk back for wiping has been there since the beginning. Back then it wasn't a problem, so what's different now? Also no dungeon has 10min walk back time, even in classic, even if you are new and dont know the correct path. About questing: Did you try reading the quest text? Back when i started playing wow, the first thing that drew me into the world itself and second thing was that i actually had to read the quest before going on for whatever i was looking for. Not some quest tracking addon that you just mindlessly follow. Explore yourself. Have time with yourself.
I would say somewhat big part of why i became so addicted to wow in the first place, was because i had to solve things myself and work for the goals. When i finally reached the goals, it felt so much more meaningful and rewarding. Had i started playing the first time with all addons possible, running around mindlessly without a single thought in my mind what i was doing or why, i would had never developed a deeper immersion and understanding to the lore and the game world itself. So yeah, I would have definately had the same result as what you expressed in this video if i had all these tools in my hand back then.
The actual problem is that nowadays life is (generally speaking) so insanely easy compared to old days. Questions like staying alive is not a problem in the modern world. After this becoming the normal - people became lazy (in general). So naturally people want everything easier and easier, irl and in games as well. It has gone so far that people dont have any patience anymore to do anything long term. They just want instant progress and instant milestones, with 0 effort. Its a global issue and it affects everything in life. Modern life has become so much faster pace then what it was back in the old times. Ultimately this is the reason why this video exists. People naturally steer themselves towards their comfort zone. Back in the days the comfort zone was to take your time, dont bite too much at once so that you dont miss any smaller nuances, get immersed to the magic, get some glimpses of some of the bigger lore moments of the game by reading the quest texts/books in game, etc. Nowadays the comfort zone is just "GOGOGO FASTFASTFSAT NO BREAKS KILL THIS KILL THAT BIGGER GEAR MORE FAST MORE MORE GOGOGO". Nowadays its only about maximising effectiviness - how can i do this faster - just like in work. With that mindset i dont think anyone can REALLY enjoy anything.
Some chatter once said PTW - pay to work. I think it fits here.
Personally i wouldnt say that people are lazy for expecting a basic QoL in their game. I think its more down to the fact that the average person has so many things competing for his time that being asked by the game to read a quest text to ascertain i need to run to a different zone and pick something up is too much for most people. I think the game making that ask is fine as long as the reward is somewhat equivalent and in classic wow the reward is some small amount of xp. Look at elden ring, the game never holds your hand or points you in directions (well grace points you where main story bosses roughly are) but the game is rewarding enough for people to stomach the effort.
I will never forget trying to encourage a friend of mine to quest with me in classic after they felt bored in elwynn forest and they just said "I could be playing God of War (2018) right now, this feels like a chore". The truth is games dont exist in a vacuum, classic wow can never be as good as people remember because in the past 15 years peoples standards for media have been raised quite a lot.
Im not trying to argue against your points but rather add to them, your comment unlike other comments down here is not insulting the person who made the video, cheers!
game is from 2004 bro..?
Classic wow / Vanilla did NOT hold your hand. You had to read the quest text and go find the objectives to complete them. Leveling is the game in classic wow. Unlike retail where the game starts at 70, you are playing the game at level 1 in classic. Classic is more work than retail. Sounds as if Retail is for you.
You would have hated Ever Quest then. Not only did you have to re-buff. If you died, you, lost experience and might de-level making it so you can't use your gear if it had a level requirement. Is World of Warcraft toxic, yah there our definitely groups of players to avoid, for me it was the Mythic + crowd.
Because I have amputated fingers on one of my hands, I just can't push out the numbers or dodge things at times because I just don't have the hand dexterity anymore. For me Classic is nice because it slows the game down, forcing you to learn your character and its kit of abilities. In retail you level so fast until the current expansion then leveling slows down greatly. Blizzard doesn't push bug fixes out on a regular basis and sometimes when they add new content they break old content.
They are slow to ban people that abuse the system from what I see. They do it in waves, but by then the damage is done. Think they try to get as much money from the people they plan to ban maybe knowing that they'll be back in a day or so doing it again and regain the money that user was spending?
Honestly in the modern day, World of Warcraft is so bloated with Toxic Elitist players, that it's not worth trying to get into as a new player, unless you have friends helping you get into the game (in which case, they should be there to help you get used to the gameplay, and run dungeons with you!). However, less popular older subscription based MMOs will generally tend to have a more welcoming atmosphere to new players. Free to Play MMOs sometimes tend to be just as toxic as WoW.
Currently, I am playing the Mists of Pandaria Remix, and even though most people seem to be toxic, I'm still trying to do my best to help people get leveled up and geared. Even though my stats are capped, and I have most of the rewards from bronze (only transmogs I probably don't care about, left to use Bronze on). When I was playing Final Fantasy 14, I was always making gear for new players, and trying to help them level and learn the game. People do exist out there that will try to help people, but they really are few and far between.
If you are going to pretend FF14 has no toxicity then you just trying to push 1 game over the other. Everything connected to the internet that has human interaction has toxicity. If you pretend like it doesn't you are just fan boying 1 game over another while both have the same problems cause humans are humans.
Besides classic hardcore are not as hard a vanilla wow- mobs are fewer some lowlevel mobs healers removed. And the slow levelling -In early vanilla You are done with elwyn forrest after 1 week played about 2-8 hours day... you have to eat as warrior at lv 2 and drink after every mob. Maybe its a generation issue-played not not easy 20-30 years for a reason limited +bad graphics = good music and good long experince
Unfortunately, my friend, you received some poor advice. Having watched the video, and still need completely sure it's not satire, I would say your goals and availability are much more suited to the retail game. Going into the classic version you are playing a game that has been "solved" and players take pride in the fact that they know it inside and out and are happy to be dismissive and even outright mean to players that are in the learning phase. I am sorry to hear you had a negative experience and can only hope after playing retail, if you choose to, you find a world of adventures for you to experience either as a solo player or with friends, existing or newly found.
If you want a relaxing, casual experience, then retail is it. Yes, there are very hardcore players in Retail. 99% of them are not hardcore. The game is very beginner friendly.
It's a real shame but every version of wow currently has a cesspit. Classic Era is just a gold farmed stock exchange; but has one of the best communities. TBC, Wrath and Cata all have heroics; i.e more toxicity (not friendly to newbies and class/spec restrictive. Although retail has no need for addons; any form of dungeoning (normal/heroic/mythic/mythic+) is a complete toxic wasteland. I haven't experienced toxicity in SoD and I hope the upcoming difficulty options in phase 4 don't hinder that.
it's the internet man all you will find is toxicity woven in with everything you like. You'll have to deal with it like an adult does in the real world. If you think WOW is more toxic then anything else, I am starting to think you've done literally 0 things in your life that required large scale human interaction lmao.
World of Warcraft is what you make it. You can play casual. We call them casuals. You can also go hardcore. I help people when ever I can if they need help in open chat or with other things. Some people love to help other. Your basing the whole game on a few experiences. An MMO also requires a longer attention span. It is more detailed. Did you ask for help ever? Classic is classic with all it's good things and bad things. OK retail now has quest indicators as of War Within. Again, part of Vanilla wow is the grind. Retail is fixing leveling. Um there are bad apples out there that are going to kick you. You get in the next group and they will be more supportive. If you are doing mythic keys you need to know your stuff though. um wasn't that outside a dungeon? @9:27 is in the Blackrock mountain not in an instance. And most dungeons will put you further ahead if you do die at a certain point in the dungeon. At least in retail that is how it happens. If you have a problem getting back did you check your map? Did you ask one of your guildies for help?
Ya man sounds like trump learning about wow day dot
Are you really saying you don;t have much time to play games therefore you play classic? :D Classic was always grindy. From what you're saying you would fit into retail, but you are just too lazy to learn things. Crying about vanilla not having addons preinstalled? Wow classic(vanilla) is a nostalgic game, no one back in time had any addons, you had to READ the quests and figure it out by yourself.
"Leveling was too slow, I quit at lvl 20." - Classic is not for modern kids that need to button smash keyboard every 1 second.
I don't want to learn about the game, but I want to be optimal in lvling. - You can apply it to any game.
Blizzard have many issues like u said(running back to corpse, rebuffing etc) but don't try to force changes to vanilla. Just go retail and learn how to play it.
This is the reason right here!
0:59 yellow dot appears on the minimap as u accept ur first quest XDDDDDDDDddddddddddd
genius troll for attention, well done
At least on retail side, blizzard is trying out new ways to get players through new game modes like Plunderstrom and MoP remix which are proving to be successful.
On the other hand I kinda don't get the point in *everything* should be available to new players. Even tho I agree that WoW community is toxic to an extent. Experienced pug players not tolerating new players is not a big deal. Just find a group of likeminded people and enjoy everything game has to offer peacefully or stick with lesser difficult content. You say you don't have time to learn the game and buying level boost expecting everything else to be handed to you is on another level of wrong, if blizzard really catered difficult content to people like you this game would have literally have died decade ago. Endgame difficulties are appealing because of hard approach, especially in retail, but also Cata.
WoW is also not only about Raiding and PvPing. There are dozen of other things you can do within the fictional world of WoW like farming Mounts/Pets or other collectables, Role-Playing, Pet Battles, Lore seeking etc. Any version of WoW can be a starting point to a new player. The only separation I would give is that the older the expansion the more community driven it is and vice-versa.
troll
Whoesver told you classic is casual and retail is hardcore played a big prank on you
In infant could play classic wow how its intended
1 button rotation classes. 1 retail dungeon has more mechanics then half of the raids in classic. the only difficulty classic had was finding the time to actually level to max becuase it took so long. this is a private server elitist L bozo take
Oh boo hoo.
I'm trying to return to WoW retail and I feel exactly the same way.
Classic Cata is meh. Not going to play it.
SoD is good, but it has zero QoL.
Retail has all the QoL and looks great, but I am just lost figuring out what to play and how to go about doing anything at 70.
Just play WoW Turtle then.
Try MoP Remix, it's actually quite easy to get a class to level 70, and the characters are going to convert to retail after the event. So you can learn what works best for you in an atmosphere that's easy enough to level in. As well as being able to earn some of the mounts/toys from the event. There's a video from Kraken Latte for earning 80k bronze per character in about a day, which included getting to 70.
Retail is where most people tell new players to start, cause everything guides you and kind of teaches you, no real need to dl addons till you do m+ and raiding. Classic doesn't have any features, super barebones. You literally have to read all the quest and figure shit out for yourself, that's just the way it was back in the day. Not many people used addons, or at least knew about them. I had a couple, but it was real basic stuff. Cata I'd say is a real good start, a lot of features were added to the game that are still used today.
The community is the worst part about wow. I've been lvling alts in sod, and trying to get rep from ash pvp event, and you'll have people pulling mobs away from you, if you're lower lvl so the mobs will charge you and get you killed, so you don't get rep. and xp. Then you've got players that'll kill civilian npcs while in grps, giving everyone a dhkp...so now nobody grps up, and so you get everyone crying in chat about how/why nobody grps to finish pvp event.
I don't need any addons to level. What are you talking about? The only two Addons I use are Recount für Dmg and DBM.
Nice video. Well presented and explained.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 end of wow.
go play minecraft
I’m encountering more completely new WoW players on classic era rn than on retail ever.
The map and quests are easy to see on the map in RETAIL Classic IMO is harder than retail much slower paced and you can easily get yourself dead a lot faster in Classic. 😆Retail you can go 1 to 70 easily, and see all quests on the map. The UI is much much better. Maybe it's something you might want to try. I just returned yesterday from a 6 month hiatus. I was texting with my friend yesterday who also play. I shit you not, I said: "How a new player is supposed to navigate this game is beyond me." I have been playing since 2005, and I find it a little overwhelming starting back up. But yea, Retail is more fast paced.
stopped reading after you called the 20 year old version of the game "harder"...bro you are delusional...1 dungeon boss in the today version of WoW has more mechanics and shit than the hardest encounters in vanilla had...you know why? because it was 20 years ago and we had shit connections and shitty PCs...
I Play since Vanilla release and the game has evolved more and more over the years...being more player friendly but also it has gone up with the difficulty in the highest endgame...Nothing in Vanilla was "hard", it was time consuming and it was at times unfair programming you couldn't do shit about...but hard? no man, not at all...
@@Gnolde Holy hell did I not put IMO in CAPS enough for you? It mean "in my opinion", and my opinion can't be wrong. An "opinion" is a "personal take", shall I explain more or do u get it? My reason for saying it's hard might differ from yours. For instance, it would take a new CASUAL player at least 2 months if not longer to level to 60 in classic. I can get to max level with minimum deaths in retail in about 5 days. There are pro's and con to both, and I play both. My con's could be your pro's. There are a ton of classic players who aren't big on the flying thing, I love flying. It makes the game easier for me by speeding up how fast I level and allows me to avoid a lot of danger I would encounter if I was walking. If you think "boss mechanics" is what defines WoW retail as hard, I respect that because it's your opinion. Do you think the "new" player is worried about running Shadowfang keep? No they are trying to figure out the basics. In fact this video would probably not have been made had the creator made it to level 70 and was raiding. @Mistpyromaniac even stated "you just don't spam dungeons". He makes a good point no?
nobody likes tourists...
You don't have a lot of time? then go play Retail. Don't complain about Classic where the whole fun of the version was in the slow "Leveling" precess.
The taking time to exploring new zones, the slow running back and forth while dreaming for my turn to go getting my own mount.
The fun of having to level up different weapon skills. The gathering. The Crafting.
The using a boost as a new player? fk no mate that was on you. You didn't want to take the time to level up and learn the dungeons, of course people will try to avoid a lvl 80 newbie that doesnt know the dungeon mechanics.
Search up youtube guides on the dungeons before jumping into them. they're normally like 5-10 min vids.
7:52
"Please add dungeon finder!"
"No. It's better to find groups on your own"
*Blizzard adds it*
"Omg the community is like so toxic wtf?"
Yeah that's what happens when you add RANDOM group finder. There's no consequences for leaving. Why is this so fucking hard for people to understand.
Also, this video has to be a troll video. You got to level 20 bro. What did you do put in 5 hours into the game and then think you can do a solid review for it?
This one big QQ fest of a video
Dungeon Finder destroyed my guild. After ICC and into Cata, Guild Cohesion was at an all time low!
Cry baby
Just play Guild Wars 2. WoW is terrible
Who plays that game that costs 20$ cuz otherwise they can't sell it ? Game with 1 button classes , easy raids , no logs , no ranks etc. WoW is terrible when you are shit if you join a guild a from wr 1 to wr 200 it's actually diffrent. Guild wars is for mentally ill people and kids. Cuz nobody plays this nor watches in Twitch like this guy speaking here he is just anotehr LFR hero looking to give opinions
one and a half minute into the video and i can already see how very wrong you are 😂 play starcraft bro, play overwatch or something, this game is not for you
instant gratification generation 😂
ok dude so the only thing i agree with is that 30 minutes ban for getting kicked is bullshit, thats on blizzard, that said, you're looking at it wrong, WoW is the best game (mmo) there is, new people dont care about addons, they just want to experience the MASSIVE open world that WoW provides and all the things that are in it..
i wont go on a long-ass rant but i will give you one piece of advice, and to all new players, if you wanna start playing start on a private server that is FREE (Whitemane is one of the best (and cataclysm is one of my favorite expansions)), after you realize the difference of a private server and retail it's up to you what you wanna play
also, Warlock (affliction) is one of the hardest specs in the game and defiantly not suited for a first time player 😂😂 play BM hunter bro 😄
On a personal note, I hate to be mean, but I really think whoever said that retail is the more "hardcore" version of the game needs to get their facts straight.
You should've seen vanilla WoW. If there was ever a game in which you could end up with no gold, all your gear broken and stuck on some remote island surrounded by hostiles with no clue how to get to your next quest, it was vanilla WoW.
Cata is already a million times more casual friendly, but Dragonflight really just holds your hand all the way if you want it to and points you right at where you should be and suggests where you should go from there on. I sincerely suggest you at least give it a try before giving up on WoW completely. There's even a "follower" dungeon mode now where you can run it with NPCs that will instruct you how to clear it before you try it with real players.
As for the game being "too big" it's really no issue. You can always just devote yourself to the current expansion and ignore the old ones entirely.(Though I personally recommend exploring them when you get the chance. They're quite fun at times.)
The community still ain't too great though, won't lie. Though they're not quite as toxic as they are just plain boring and anti-social. EVEN the NPCs feel more like humans than the actual players. Everyone is just super quiet, no hello, thank you or goodbye, they just get their weekly/daily clears and move on. For that reason I suggest joining some casual or new player friendly guild when you get in.
To sum up: Retail WoW has never been more casual/new player friendly than it is today. It's actually the reason why so many have quit playing it since wotlk. Classic is the place where all the more hardcore-loving nostalgics gather up to smash some raids n stuff.
Take care dude. ✌
The answer is simple, don't play this game and play final fantasy :3
Classic exemple of creating the problem. Classic wow does not need addons, that's the beauty of it. Really hate this generation that want everything easy.
2 things , blizz dosent give a shit about wow its one of their lowest revenue games and 2 Dont play wow , its gone from what it was back in the good days . private sever is best time now