BKCHAT LDN: S5 EPISODE 7 - "You Can Go Uni, But Sometimes They"ll Just Hire Someone Off The Streets"
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2021
- Episode 7 discusses University and whether it's worth going/applying during this pandemic vs. applying for a job, however waiting ages to be employed. Join the cast and see what they have to say tonight. Enjoy!
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The problem with this generation is everyone wants to work for themselves, no one wants to work for anyone else, thinking they're gonna become millionaires and this leads to unrealistic mindsets that you don't need education. You learn things about yourself and others you would never be able to unless you went to university... If you wanna go to uni go if not its okay.
Thisss☝🏾
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Thank you!!!!! Not everyone will CEO's or millionaires. Someone has to work under someone else and education is important and uni can be done at any age
This is exactly the problem. And most of these people don’t have back up plans. Which is another reason why I feel going to University is vital.
this is so true
AY Mili was speaking facts. Degree is not everything but it opens doors.
Not necessarily
Did ao else pree nks face expressions. So rude😂😂😂
Most of these people go uni for the sake of going uni and do useless degrees like media study and then when they can’t find a job they try to tell dental, IT, medical students and so on that it’s useless 😒🤦♂️
@@Jojohumf lmao
@@Jojohumf I feel lik degrees are for high demand jobs like doctors, lawyers etc
ik aymilli's parents are proud of him if they watch this
Hahahaha
This start a business thing they really need to stop..... its actually not for everyone and like milli said people need to stop acting like working for someone is negative. Like you can still be rich and work for someone
Right!!! 👌🏾
Not only that, but most people who have businesses have worked for someone in the past.
@@abdi1659 exactly I even wanted to say that as well !!
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Omg that’s exactly what I was saying !!! They make it seem like people just start a business and are successful overnight majority of people actually worked for someone at one point in life.
I’m screaming😂😂😂😂😂how’s NK complaining about making no money off a degree he hasn’t even got yet
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
😂😂 he got a lot to learn he more focus on money than the degree
Dude is the male Lani...
Jesse is the best on this panel. So open-minded and the way he articulates him self is just on point!!!!
Wordd
been saying thisss he's amazing
He articulates himself very very well
Hands down he’s got to be my favourite.
I like him. His critical thinking skills are phenomenal.
Everyone: Talking about the relevance of university
Iqra: START AN ONLINE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!
she's 100% right tho.
@@michael43567 I get that but not everyone is ready to start a business
Ahlie she said it about 20 times😭😭😭😭
Shes screaming business as if it’s so easy to have one
the way everyone cringes when she says it 😭😭
I agree with AyMilli TV. University is a key part of society, where the integral professions within society rise from. It is not compulsory, so its your choice but you cannot discredit university just because you are focused on the negative elements; in life there is always going to be negatives in everything you do anyways.
The problem with university is they pad the program to make more money but pretend it's to make students more well rounded. Books cost way too much and a lot of school actively try to force students to buy new books, or new editions. The fact that it is a key part of society is a fallacious argument and even if it was, that still doesn't mean anything at all. Slavery was once a "key" part of society, that became obsolete due to industrialization. Formal education is only good for establishing a curriculum, but with the advent of the internet it exists only to artificially separate people who can afford to pay for it from those who can't.
@@ezradlionel711 If something is key then it does mean something so, you are contradicting yourself... You wouldn't want someone who is not qualified to be a heart surgeon to do heart surgery on you. Students aren't forced to buy any of these books, they are just recommended to - speaking from experience. Using slavery as a comparison is invalid in this scenario, how are you trying to compare the education system to the concept of slavery and everything that formed it.
@@seforambongo5905 You missed the part where I said some professions require hardware/equipment that only schools have the funds to acquire?
The only thing that qualifies someone is their ability to do something. Certification (Accredited) means that someone has been approved to assess qualification.
In an analogy you use the parts that are analogous, because everything has dozens to millions of variables. It's kind of like a simile, you know what that is? If I say I'm like a lion, you gonna ask me if I hunt Zebra?
Since you're playing dumb, I'll explain: Slavery was such a big deal that even good Christians owned slaves, now the concept disgusts most people. University is seen as a requirement but is gradually becoming more obsolete with the internet, made all the more obvious by the rapid push to online learning since the pandemic got worse. So in a couple decades what seemed like a key component of society will be replaced by more customized online learning, not centralized to any one institution, where students can learn at their own pace.
There's always going to be the need to assess students but I think that should be the job of the employer. Any head of a department should know the requirements of a position and whether or not a potential candidate is equipped for the post.
These man aren’t understanding that you only pay back a fraction of your loan only after you make a certain amount of income, moving like we’re in America where you’ll be in debt, Lool you can tell whose educated on this pannel by watching this
G truss me, the ones who said they hadn’t gone uni were mentioning the “debt” as if they even know how it works. Clearly they don’t 🤣
@@e11b10 exactlyy speaking rubbish kmt
It’s still debt because it’s money you have to pay back in instalments
N K it’s a debt yes. That you begin to pay 9% of any thing over 27k you earn, which you don’t even see come out of ur account because it gets deducted before you get your wage. So it can be seen as a tax more than a debt.
So what, you'd rather earn less than 27k a year because you don't pay back the loan? That's a loser's mindset.
And just because it's a small amount you're required to pay, doesn't mean it's not a debt.
If you're gonna go to uni, make sure you make the most of it. Join societies, do internships, study abroad, do extra curricular activities. Uni is about a lot more than just a degree, so make sure you make the most of that £9K!!
no
@@taminax3508 bum
Everyone is sooo obsessed with being a CEO. There is literally nothing wrong with working for someone lmao, are you not going to employ people when you start your business?? Not everyone can or wants to start their own business. 🤦🏾♀️
i see u have common sense , thank you.
Frr
Right? Also, most businesses and startups fail.
@@pppeachezify and leave u in debt
Very true. Not everybody wants to be a entrepreneur. I enjoy working for people.
NK is always so passive aggressive man. His facial expressions towards people he doesn’t agree with.
I agree with aymilli. NK is waffling as usual. He always changes his views to what the majority says, he needs to learn to stick with his guns.
NK’s such a wired guy. One minute he’s mentioning that the 3 richest people in the world went to University, by the end he’s saying he doesn’t make money from his degree? :S Which was stupid, because he hasn’t finished his degree to make money from it :S
@@KeishaDapaah agreed.. the geezer says things to try look good but instead looks a fool.
@@thomaspatrickegan6857 I'm sorry but what does geezer mean?😭
@Mr jay oh ok thank you
lol this. NK saying uni is worthless and he's still there. Drop out then?
This NK guy is just flip flopping between opinions, actually confusing. Aymilli and Jesse are the only individuals that are making sense on this panel
I feel like none of NK's opinions are actually his own he just regurgitates what he hears that sounds like it makes sense, feel like he's just putting up a front for the cameras, every episode this guys opinions are all over the place
@@DRandR1productionz It's actually obvious.
Fans think they know everything😂😂
If everyone was running businesses do you think people will actually buy from every single business. Not everyone is capable of running a business. I’ve seen too many people with businesses not making no money. THE MAIN THING YOU NEED TO START A BUSINESS IS INFLUENCE WITHOUT INFLUENCE YOU AIN MAKING SHIIIIIIIII
AyMilli is the only one that isn’t brainwashed
Jesse isn't brainwashed
People who did a degree in a field they don't work in shouldn't discredit the uni route and should have picked a better degree.
This is not a fair statement because a lot changed between the time that you apply, get accepted and begin and the time that you graduate and figure out your career post degree….
good point. Though I'd also say most of us didn't know what we wanted to do 100% at 18. And our parents pressured us to go to uni (and do a respectable degree).
And I'd also say that most degrees aren't useful. If it's not stem or law, you likely don't need it. Apprenticeships, internships & online courses would be a better option. I did a finance degree but I learned way more & more useful things online. Investing, credit score, real estate etc. All online. Didn't learn a peep from the degree
@@nyeshahudson43 not if its art oo
Good point
At 18 Young people need good advice of guidance to make a good decision unfortunately a lot of people don't have that
PSA to young kings and queens While you’re at uni, take advantage of your status as a uni student, apply for Insight week, Internships, Placements, Grad schemes- do that and your degree will
open up doors. You can gain experience while on a degree course. So look into this people 🙏🏽 I did a Economics degree, did a finance placement during it and now i’m a Accountant and can take my skills, experience anywhere in the world.
Congratulations I’m glad that worked for you👏🏾🙌🏿🙌🏿
We also have to admit that not everyone can just "start a business", "" start an online business". I hear it so often being told to others to do but gosh not everyone has the skills to start and carry out a business.
everyone sees other people start a business and become successful and don't realise the effort and struggle it takes to start a business you probably won't even see profit in the first 3-5 years and will just be scraping by, not everyone has the ability to be a CEO this generation makes it seem like unless you work for yourself everything else is useless
omg right!!!!
Not even just that , if everyone is starting businesses none are going to make money cause it’s not even like people are selling unique things
@@annelyam3530 100% agree
NK needs to think logically, you cannot get a *grad* banking job without a DEGREE doesn't matter if it's your field or not
NK said at the the start the people doing the best in the uk have a degree he was thinking logically
@@Joemama-ul9vl His point towards the end was so retarded
just silly. Lani is the only one with a GOOD paying job & a uni degree. They should have put her in.
Literally
Iqraa literally just said she has a degree and a job, did you not watch the video ??
@@zaraadam8906 Clearly not.
@@zaraadam8906 what did she add to the episode? Alright then
@@zaraadam8906 what is iqra is a social media influencer. She doesn’t use her degree. Whilst lani does. Next.
I SWR I LOVE JESSE HES SO WELL SPOKEN AND I JUST ALWAYS AGREE WITH HIS POINTS
Easily the most intellectual on bkchat
NK basically said all you need to do it network to get into an investment banking job. Yeah maybe as the receptionist, tf
I expected better from him after he mentioned those roles. Expected him to mention the fact that you can get experience while studying in the form of spring week , internships which he didn’t decide to mention even tho I’m pretty sure he wants to go into finance. He made it out as if you can not have experience and a degree concurrently
LMAOOO
😂😂😂😂
Monty come like she is Queen of Wahala...so she believes people are wasting their 20s to get a degree. Yet she is now 27 going to uni to get a degree 🙃
The problem isn’t that everyone is trying to be self employed in their own business. It’s the fact that everyone is trying to establish the same businesses, nails, shoes, clothes and hair etc… and that’s why those people won’t get far unless they have lots of influence
Exactly. They’re all acting as if its bad to be employed by someone else but they don’t realize that a lot of big business owners didn’t jump into entrepreneur ship immediately. A lot of them had to work under other people to have an influence and an example on what can benefit you when running a business. They can think back to how their boss did certain things to boost their business. This will help you a lot more than being prideful and feeling like working under someone else makes you “smaller”.
I went to uni for graphic design I went to the second best art school in the country and had everyone in my ear telling me I can learn graphic design/photography at home. I went because of how prestigious the uni was and the main reason was to network. I ended up getting a recommendation from my tutor to nike and since graduating I've been running a successful freelance photography business. Not to mention I learned so much about myself and grew in confidence when it came to talking to people and making friends which I still use today for my job. People don't make the most out of uni when they go, they mess around and finish with barely a pass and say it's not worth it. It's definitely not for everyone but that doesn't mean it's not worth it.
You are an exception. There's only so many spaces and jobs. What's wrong with you lot? Imagine someone with a graphic design degree urging others to go uni? Unless you recommend STEM, Non-Creative degrees then you're not the best person to be giving opinion
There are only so many spaces and jobs in every field and every uni so what's your point? who is urging anyone to go to uni? I'm simply talking about my personal experiences as I said at the end it's definitely not for everybody only you can make that decision, but just because it's not a STEM field that means it's not worth it? you do realise the vast majority of creative agencies still require you to have a degree in fine art unless you have experience already working in the creative industry for a decent amount of years. I was able to network at university and still use those contacts today who hire me for jobs and I return the favour, not to mention it helped me grow as a person in confidence and allowed for better communication which has helped ridiculously in the industry when it comes to talking to new clients and pitching. Uni allowed me to have better resources that I would never have been able to have on my own, art isn't cheap. It also gave me time to work on the projects I wanted to and build my portfolio up to suit the agencies I wanted to apply to. I didn't learn anything at uni in relation to my degree but I got exactly what I wanted out of it.
Congratulations
You can have a personality disorder whether you do or don’t go to Uni
Idek know what that one is about. He chose violence during this discussion 😂😂😂
Exactly 🙄
Honestly that triggered me as someone with one I wanted to just slap them through this screen loooool
I was socially awkward even after uni lol. Grew out of it eventually
@@Soneelicious same I have one too and it was so triggering to hear. He clearly doesn’t know the definition of different personality disorders
What if social media stops existing, how will influencers and the rest of them earn money? I feel education should be plan B for most cases except you want to use your degree. GO TO SCHOOL!!!
Yes. Go to school and throw away 75k 🤦🏾♂️
@@Aj-wh8su Well then do your degree get a good job and pay it off. There are so many people in student debt it's not the end of the world. Why are you so fixated on the debt. If you work hard in Uni get a good degree you'll get a high-paying job and pay it off in no time. For the debt is a weak argument.,
@@32442792 I’m saying most people go to college just to go or don’t even work in the field they got their degree in. It’s just pointless most of the time.
There are many basic jobs you can get without a degree. However when you’re trying to elevate within that industry that’s when they want people with degrees
I can’t believe that this is actually a topic. We really live in a privileged world were we have access to everything to do better in life yet we choose to hustle and make it at our own. Tell that someone back home and they will look at you funny. I don’t see other communities talking about this nonsense and they are striving!! Please if you have the opportunity and Privilege to study go and study!!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Preach!!
But because of this privilege we also have other avenues that we can go down on. Our privilege is based on the fact that we live in the UK not just on the fact there are unis or schools. There are unis and schools in Ghana or where ever your from, it’s also down to the government to provide these things.
This discussion was painful to listen to... They are talking about tertiary education and this girl is talking about her 12 year old brother doing people's garden.
@@benja303 beyond me
I think people are afraid of hard work. They want the easy way out.. they don’t want a challenge. Not everyone is meant to pursue a career that requires Uni, but to be honest, those who think Uni is a waste of time are afraid of hard work. Bare people wanna be “influencers” and be a model, make story times, pranks etc.. lol.. and SOME of the same people that say “oh you can learn on your own” are the same ones that have never read a book in their life and are social media warriors.. but that’s none of my business☺️
I think uni is a waste of time and money most of the time, and I have a degree in chemical engineering 🙃
80% of billionaires do NOT have degrees. Billionaires (the self made ones) likely worked harder than you can imagine to get to that status. Elon worked 100hr weeks.
Watch compilations of successful people talking about degrees. Most of them say it's a waste of time. Would like to see you argue your point with them that they're afraid of hard work.
School & university stiffles creativity & tries to train you to think a certain way. Dropping out doesn't mean you're afraid of hard work, you did hard work to get there in the first place. A lot of ppl that drop out do so because they see it as pointless to what they really want to do or achieve.
The "easy way out" as you said is actually getting a degree then being an employee for 40 years before retiring. Dropping out of uni is actually the hard way. Now you have to make something happen for yourself & you have people ready to call you a failure if you don't.
@@freeeepalestine__ you should have pursued something you’re passionate about that will make it worth it.
@@michael43567 is your 80% an actual statistic? because in 2019 they did a study on the top 250 billionaires on the forbes list at that time.. 196 of them had a University degree and only 17 dropped out. So actually, 78% of the top billionaires have a Uni degree, (and they’re self-made) while only 6.8% dropped out.. and that’s actual info.. but hey, to each their own.
@@sandra.t. I love engineering. I still think uni is a waste of time and money most of the time, now what? My real education came from my sixth form, my uni education was not worth the 9k at all, even with how much I enjoyed it and how much of a good degree it is
A lot of people will be denied certain jobs because they don’t have a higher degree regardless of the experience, books they’ve read, RUclips videos they’ve watched. Unfortunate but true. Definitely research what you want to do and see the requirements. Sometimes entry level doesn’t require a degree but a promotion might.
Exactly!!!
A lot of jobs require a bachelor's minimum, especially if it's a higher salary
@@xxsasunaruyaoi13xx exactly
@@xxsasunaruyaoi13xx Jobs such a real estate agents basically the sales industry do not require degrees just basic GCSEs which pay salaries up to 100k, ATC controllers can also make the same there is a vid about it
Idk if it’s just me but I swr NK switched up his argument mid video 😂😂😂
Literally
Always!!! 😂
He’s always flip flopping to be accepted by the majority 🙄
He did!!! I thought it was just me, I guess he was just giving a different perspective 😂
He’s so annoying
If University works for you don’t discourage those that are hustling .
Vice versa
If hustling works for you don’t discourage those that go to university .
Do what’s best for you❤️
Wordddd like some of them were really looking down on each other
It’s so clear in this episode who has a degree and who doesn’t sorry
Lmao why is NK on this honesty
😂💀
He needs to go 😂
As you can see, they just bring anybody on here.
If uni helps you reach you goals go, if it doesnt then go. Either way university or not a lot people lack of common sense
I’m 19 how will I know it will help me reach my goals, most of us don’t even know what we want to do long term lmao.
@@Jay-fv6xo surely you can think and predict
@@Jay-fv6xo think of what you love doing, what can you see yourself being truly happy doing. At 19 I had no idea myself. So didn't go to Uni right away I took a year off to work and figure it out. Jus't dont do what other people want you to do, that is usually when time and money gets wasted.
@@moneycomesfirst8681 U can’t predict to be honest.. life is unpredictable
@@kameisha4eva2 preach
The simple answer is go uni if it would help in your career such as a lawyer or doctor otherwise don’t bother
100%
yep!!!
what about accounting?
@@emmanuel2295 Apprenticeship
Teachers, nurses, midwives, radiographers, veterinarians all needs degrees. Not just lawyers and doctors
How are you studying dance and applying for i.t jobs? "Are you skunked"!!!😂😂😂
Word🤣🤣🤣
Analysis of this episode:
NK waffling as normal my God.
Nnamdi made some valid points.
Ezo this girl talks tooo much made 0 points we want to make generational wealth you won’t be a store manger forever.
Girl in white had nothing important say just bashed uni because she couldn’t go.
One in burgundy is obviously not intelligent enough to get into uni.
Pregnant one MEH.
Iqra made a lot of sense but she kept waffling about starting an online business it’s not for everyone if your stuff doesn’t sell what will you eat? Hm?
Aymilli made a lot of sense everyone just hated on him because their parents chose their degrees. Why would you pick something your not passionate in?
Jesse is great. He deserves to be on a better platform to speak about his views. He articulates himself in such a good way unlike the rest.
Accurate
Hahaha 100% accurate who was on the burgundy???
@@vanesaimafidon2791 smh I can’t even remember 😂
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@@emmao1311 How?
NK drags it every time😂😂😂😂😂😂 so dramatic
Honestly 😂
Things to embrace: 🏆💥🏆
1. Your job doesn’t define who you are
2. EQ matters more than IQ
3. It’s hard to teach someone to be kind or empathetic
4. You don’t need to be the boss to be a leader
5. Every job is important
6. We accomplish more when we don’t care who gets the credit
Yesssss!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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Every job is important 💜👏🏽
ooou this right here 👏🏾✨ especially #2
@@henrymartins4549 Dude EQ isn't a legitimate thing lol, its literally a coined word lmao
33:30 ONWARDS - AY MILLI IS SPITTING FACTS ONLY! You cannot apply for a job which requires a Degree in Business if you do not have a degree. No amount of “work experience” will save you. Go to Uni if you need it for your career, don’t go if you don’t. SIMPLE.
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Swear NK is bare confused. One minute he says UNI is not necessary especially during COVID now he is agreeing is important in regards to what you experience. 🤔
NK and Ezo are very uneducated and really can't articulate themselves I have no idea who they think they are influencing because they can't even make a decision for themselves....
Nmandi is looking down at people that don’t have degrees, that’s the vibe I’m getting
Nnamdi basically said if you don’t go uni you can’t be normal in society you’ll have issues 🤔
he sorta had a point 😅 (not looking down) but you learn a lot of people skills and a whole lotta things in university
@@Nandiee but the way he said it’s like you can’t be normal if you haven’t gone university
@@Nandiee I didn’t
@@Nandiee those things can be learned outside of uni too. And you don't have to pay 9k a year to learn them. Ezo worked as a branch manager before going uni. I'm sure she already learned people skill from her job & uni didn't improve them much.
A lot of benefits from uni that I hear can be had outside of uni too. And for free.
Aymilli was perfect for this video he was making so much sense
Aymilli speaking some sense, very dangerous this thing of pushing the narrative that uni isn’t important. too many people go to uni for the sake of going to uni, doing 3 or 4 year degrees that are low demand and no guarantee of employment, not everyone is creative and there is no qualifications for artistry thus no assurance of employment. not everyone is gonna be great or even comfortable in the creative field. however essential degrees will give you a comfortable life at the very least. please do not go to uni for 4 years if you have no assurance of employment after. and please stop pushing this narrative that uni isn’t necessary. 2021 literally isn’t forever lol. 🥴
Uni isn't necessary depending on what you want to do with your career but if you want to pursue a job that requires it then you do need it
the one thing I learnt from this is people nowadays especially black people care more about getting money quick right now rather than actually having a career that can impact society yet they will be the first to shout why isnt there a lot of black politicians/lawyers/doctors/engineers etc and the reason is kids are being told to make money instead of getting an education so a lot of kids that have the potential to become an integral part of society are out here hustling just trying to make money
Aymilli speaking facts, everyone wants to be a youtuber or influencer, i ask you this when you go out into central london, bank, monument, canary wharf, when u see those sky scrapers with 100 floors n thousands of work spaces, i guarantee u the vast majority of people earning 6 figures have degrees in their respective fields, for every IG influencer theres 1000' s of educated people with degrees earning stupid money! They just arent Flashing it on the gram. If u go uni of bando, n get a 3rd class degree in tying your shoe laces, u shouldnt be suprised when u dont get a job
N what NK said is cap, first class in history working at sainburys from oxford that is more his fault for not marketing himself properly as a graduate than anything
I don’t like how iqra was repeating just start an online business. A lot of ppl don’t have a good business acumen, can’t be bothered/ don’t want to or just aren’t interested and find it long. There are other ways to build your bread up that don’t involve ‘online business’ such as property, stock, or cryptocurrency that others might find more interesting and they don’t have to go to uni to do.
she actually encouraged getting a degree but working on your online business simultaneously like she did.
That's the way to go imo. And like you said it doesn't have to be an online business, it could be learning about stocks/crypto. The point is, try to do something on the side, not just uni.
Thank you!!!!!
@@michael43567 yeah I agreed with her. Going to Uni and doing something on the side is smart but she kept repeating online business, online business which she did, however it’s not right for everyone ygm
@@aestheticallyayomide682 She didn't say it was right for everyone, she said it was what SHE did that worked for HER.
@@hollow9846 we could not have been watching the same RUclips video because she clearly, repeatedly said “make an online business, make an online business”. Which means she’s directing it at the collective and not just herself
Even though university is not worth it, having a degree can get your foot in the door for a lot of opportunities. You have jobs that do not require a degree/ certain fields. But for the most part some jobs even state in their application minimum requirement is a degree. It gives you skills, it helps you build connections with people. It's a lot and people downplay it at times, but just being able to get your foot in the door is a good thing.
Our generation is so foolish , EDUCATION IS KEY idc if you want to work for yourself, EDUCATION IS KEY
Education is key, not uni
@@freeeepalestine__ facts
@@freeeepalestine__ life without a degree is very vulnerable, my dad got a degree in economics but he’s an engineer, if the engineering doesn’t go well he is able to switch career path to finance, uni gives u options
@@pipscobar2899 you must be naive, people say these things all the time but it just not as simple as you say it. He can’t easily just switch to finance, that’s bs. Secondly, if he decides he wanted to be a doctor now, he can’t easily do it, he has to have money saved to put himself through medical school. There are so many people I know who went way further than people with a degree in sectors like Engineering, aeronautics etc. Because they took other routes than a degree, and are far better at what they do than people with a degree. In fact if you wanted someone to design your house 9 times out of 10 the best person for the job is someone who is a school drop out. If I could go back in time I wouldn’t have bothered with a degree I would have focused more on experience and leave a degree till wayyy later
My friend Rotimi doesn't have a degree and he works in finance works for companies and deals with contacts. This guy did some small online course then did work experience now he's earning nice money and has been able to buy a house and start a side hustle. Hes now 27 and didnt go uni met him when we both worked in retail
Only go to uni if you want to go! Don’t allow your parents force you to go. They’ll tell you to go to just to impress people in their community kmt. Are they paying back the debt?
This is true too
I agree completely bro, if u can get to where u want to go without uni, it isn't 100% necessary
Let’s not forget they want some if your student finance to 😂😂
If where u wanna go doesnt require you to go to university just don't go simple
@@christiandawit612 exactly
The white t shirt guy is amazing on how he kept his foot on the ground no matter how many ppl disagreed wit him
Iqraa too funny😂 the amount of times she said, Start your online business, Start your online business, *START YOUR ONLINE BUSINESS*
if iqra mentions online business one more time...
Fr😂😂
Lool init, it’s like someone is putting money in her pocket 😂
NK is such a wallad he can’t even formulate his own stance on the topic, how can man say he ain’t making money of a degree he ain’t even finish yet 😭😭😭
He's an airhead ngl... Damn. 😂
He defo the stupidest on this panel. He literally can't make a phrase that makes any sense.
He's bare insecure about her law degree. Rah! 😂
Nah you’re overthinking because he has a strong opinion.
@@Ali01007 she mentioned it TWICE and hes acting like shes rubbing it in his face thats blatant insecurity my guy because he knows she is far more educated, qualified and significant to society than he is
@@soukybird9274 unfortunately you’re still overthinking
@@Ali01007 how those are the exact words he used "it feels like youre rubbing your law degree in our faces" but hes the only one who felt salty about her mentioning her qualifications. He asled everyone else what their degree was but when she mentions hers its a problem. I bet hes got a degree i geography fam 😂😂😂
if you ask me, you're not thinking enough
Loooool NK needs to chill getting bare aggy with what Aymilly is saying and pulling faces
he annoys me, icl.
@@annabelnnamani5177 switching up he’s deffo a pick me
nk has a resting screw face, leave him
@@kay5658 no you can clearly see the way he changes his expression when’re something he doesn’t agree with is said.
Uni is expensive for what you get - I understand that, but tbh lets be real a lot of uni students are really not that serious, rave every week and do the bare minimum and somehow scrape by with a 2.1. Uni isn't a place that gives results with the bare minimum, you need to be involved (both in your studies and extracurriculars) and you'll see better results.
I went to uni purely for networking reasons I ended up with a 2.1 but got exactly what I went there for, ended up getting a recommendation to nike and have never looked back, the best decision I ever made. Would I go back to art school just to learn? definitely not I didn't learn anything I didn't already know but it was definitely worth it. Most man go to uni with no goal/aim and are just coasting by, obviously it won't seem worth it if you're just partying and ending up with a pass
@@DRandR1productionz recommendation to Nike ?? Lol I’ve always wondered how you get into companies like that cause you never see Nike advertising office jobs now I see it’s networking
@@DRandR1productionz I agree u need to have a goal in mind to keep u motivated
A 2.1 is hard to get uni ain’t no walk in the park I respect someone with a 2.1
@@jeezy9406 Yeah I wasn't saying a 2.1 is bad - my point was that people think that just getting by with a 2.1 is enough, and that's not the case. You have to be involved throughout uni to get the best out of it, not just cram to get a grade.
A lot of them are talking about how they can go and teach themselves online but it all boils down to evidence. You can’t go to an interview and tell them you’ve taught yourself with no credible evidence. More time they actually want proof, concrete proof and degrees provide that.
Exactly... Even some kind of certificate. SOMETHING.
exactly they actually want some sort of experience to back that up, projects you've worked on, internships you've been to etc most man who say uni isn't worth it dont want to do the extra work that is required for those who don't go to uni, they're just lazy.
I guess you haven't heard about the thousands of free courses google gives with certificates in the end. Also, if you truly are capable for a job and have the knowledge, a certificate isn't the only way to show proof
@@chosen3713 It does not matter, you're just proving his point. You need something, some sort of empirical evidence that you have have the skills. Call it a certificate, a piece of paper, a digital certificate, a diploma [...] does not matter as long as it's some kind of proof.
To be saved, confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead (Romans 10:9) 🤍🥳.
God says He has plans to prosper you and not to harm you. He also says He has thoughts of peace towards you and not of evil. Things may be hard right now. You are not alone. God can uplift you and use you for His glory. You are not worthless. How can you be when the God the Son came down on this earth, and died a humiliating death, but knew it was worth it and He loves you? Trust in the Lord, keep your mind on Him, and you will have perfect peace💕
Amen 🙏🏾
Amen 🙏🏾
Amen🙏🏾
load of bullshit
Amen
How can nnamdi say Jae has a personality disorder just bc he didn’t go to uni??? SIRRR U HAVE ONE! Nonsenseee
University I believe is for most people to go have fun and for the title of saying “I went to uni” whereas some actually want to go to learn but university doesn’t hold the same weight it once did as any Tom, dick or Harry can get into uni now and you can a degree in your industry but end up working in Tesco’s because you don’t have any experience
I think it also depends on what uni and what class you get out of it
You’ve said it all.
100%. If it's not STEM or law, don't bother going uni.
some degree are pointless and some are worthy like medical and engineering
@@TheonlyAnu architecture is also a good career. If you don't get a job where you're from then try to got in another country to find a job with your degree
She said she could learn business management at home? Business management has so many core subjects such as accounting, economics and so on. It’s not as easy as she’s making it sound.
People like that chat the most shit. She’s only saying it now becuase she has learnt it. She wouldn’t even know where to start if she was learning it from scratch. She wouldn’t know what curriculum to follow, what she needs to learn etc , these are things universities do so you don’t need to. But miss independent thinks she can 🤣
@@e11b10 because she had experience. Experience matters more in Business
@@NoName-sp5dp Nah she's chatting shit. She said she went back for herself. Bullshit! She went back because she realized she had more to learn.
NoName you didn’t understand what she said, she said she could’ve learnt everything she’s learning in her degree by herself, which I’m quite confident that isn’t the case and she’s chatting shit. Experience in a business is completely different to learning a business degree
I see everyone’s point but I feel like people put too much emphasis on the uni debt thing because it’s not as deep as they are making it out to be. Yes, when you leave uni there will be a lot of money you’ll have to pay back but:
1. You don’t have to pay it back until your earning over a certain threshold annually
2. It takes a only a small chunk of your money when you’ve gotten to that threshold
3. Once you’ve passed a certain age the debt gets wiped anyway
It’s a ‘debt’ by definition but it is also conditional to certain standards that some people never reach and therefore never pay a penny back but still have their degree. 🤷🏾♀️
Scotland really enjoying the free uni life chileee anyways 💀😭
kmt i might move back to do uni 💀💀💀
And free transport soon😭😭
African parents would look at this and smash the tv
Please💀
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We put so much pressure on students to HAVE to go uni between 18-22. Some people might prefer to work and enjoy life and then go uni at 30 or 45 or 70 and maybe truly appreciate education at a mature age. The pressure from parents and the system to go uni at 18 is crazy
A Man said go to uni at 70 lmao
@@swayfitness5777 didn't know education had an age limit
@@NA597 higher education doesn't have an age limit, but why would u go to uni at 70, most people go to uni to get into a certain career path, at 70 you're most likely retired so why would u go to uni at that age? If its just for
Education then u can read books or do courses online why go thru the hassle of going to lectures as an old man lol.
@@swayfitness5777 there is a loneliness pandemic happening in the west even before Corona came thru among the elderly and also the young. Imagine a world where u not only learn from a lecturer but also from fellow students who have life experience. Uni is not just lectures, it's a whole package. University is meant to be about an exchange of ideas and to be open minded, it's not just for a career path, the system has brainshwashed us to think we need to complete education by 22-23
@@swayfitness5777 I'm with the open university. A few years ago there was a man in his 70s who was studying because he wanted to start another business along with the three other businesses he had. My grandma is in here 70s and is preparing to go into business. Retirement for some makes them feel life is passing them by if they've worked majority of their lives so you'll find that some of them go back to work.
Ezo just love the sound of her own voice. 😬
Yesss! She just says useless things that won’t help the conversation and she chimes in when it’s completely unnecessary.
Degrees CAN open doors. That’s a fact.
After your first graduate role. Your degree matters less and experience, industry certifications and skills matter MORE.
Just choose wisely what you’re planning to study.
There is a threshold for when it comes to paying back the student loans and you’ll only be paying it off if your earning over £27,000 annually. When paying it off you only pay small amounts monthly. So your not necessarily in 10’s thousand of debt.
yeah its more like a tax
We can't all be entrepreneurs, we still need the doctors, nurses, teachers for our future generations
University is always a good back up, incase your business fails......
I went to uni, I dropped out then I went on to start my own business I am now 26 and the business is now turning over 730k last financial year and now on target to turnover 1.3/1.4. In my opinion uni is subjective to where you are going in life but personally I would prefer to look back in 40 years time and think “ok I gave it a go” my biggest fear is regret! Anybody at uni, I wish you all the best and please do not allow social media to put you down.
I felt this & it’s gives me a push & encourages me to push my business
@@amouraidior7056 The best of luck to you, never let failure get to your heart and keep going!
Nnamdi: Name a prostitute that has a degree
Jesse: How do you knoww
Deaddd Jesse is starting to become my fave😂🤣
Facts or super super facts?...Uni is hugely beneficial when you study the courses that your parents (especially if you're African). Such as law, accountant, doctor/nurse, and engineering. But you can still be a success financially and career wise without going to uni. The key is being able to network and connect with people. Which you learn the basics of networking when you extremely young in the environment you grow up in.
All degrees aren’t equal, you can have a great education that sets you up for life, or doss around with a weak degree and get little out of it…Uni’s will take 10k from both a serious and non serious student all the same, so pick wisely
Nailed it
Someone talks bout NKs face when he said he has the best grades ever 😂😂😂
Gap years need to be pushed more !!
Facts. I wish I had a gap year.
Only if you have something to do during that year, otherwise you’ll get bored out your mind
@@sorayaf1613 get jobs and stack your money in that year. Find hobbies start independent projects or businesses. You shouldn't really have NOTHING to do tbh.
I need Lani in every ep pls
aymilli was speaking facts. having any degree guarantees you a job. You can have a engineering degree and get into law.
How do you get in to law with an Engineering degree?
You can do a conversion course if anything engineering may give u an advantage as now u have 2 degrees, the firm may have a department where they could use both degrees it happens all the timr
Rose Gold exactly to become a lawyer, you don’t require a specific degree. People are misinformed and don’t know this. This is the case for pretty much every job role apart from medical roles which u need a specific medical degree
@@micah0190 courses.the degree is most likely to help you get into the course as well as the experience behind getting the degree.a degree doesn’t necessarily have to relate to your future jobs
@@e11b10 Exactly, even if you don’t study law as an undergraduate degree you can still do a conversion course in law. So you can still study a subject you enjoy more like English, history which can actually benefit you with law
Going to uni is important but it doesn’t guarantee your success.
Nk needs to low it 🤦🏽♀️ he's one jarring kid wallahi
A degree is just ONE OF THE OPTIONS, it doesn't make you smarter and it doesn't fast track anything, it's just another option of reaching your goals. I have studied Accounting and Finance, worked at Morgan Stanley, Unilever, Capital, Danone and many of my colleagues never stepped foot in uni.
That's what I'm saying. It can make it simpler, but if you have a goal, you should focus more on reaching that goal than HOW you reach it. If uni will help, go, if it doesn't make a difference, do what makes sense for you!
The degree gets you through the door. Then they look at your experience, portfolio. Then your personality during the interview. There are so many jobs that you think you don’t need a degree, the fraction of jobs you need a degree for compared to the ones you don’t need a degree for is large.
This episode of bkchat has me thinking about my uni days and where I am in life now. Although my experiences there and my degree were worth it, it was my work placements in my field that got me through the door in gaining my first full time job. Not my degree. Employers care more about experience as they want someone who can hit the ground running. This isn't an anti university statement. I'm just speaking my truth. Whether you're for higher education or not, have a goal. Have a vision for your life.
It was both my g. No degree and you wouldn't have gotten through the door. Trust.
What is even wrong in working for someone ? We should understand that majority of jobs crashing today is becomes people just feel, they can start a business because they can’t work for someone. How can you serve if you haven’t served ?
And let‘s be real even influencers „work for someone“.. you work and do things so that your viewers, supporters and customers continue supporting you
"They read a whole lot of books I lived a whole lot of life" - Jay Z
They didn’t lie , during covid I learnt more from RUclips in 2 days that helped me with my work than I did in my whole year of lectures
where did those ppl from youtube get the info from tho? 😏
@@iloveytyay480 studies that they had done a lot of them not uni but from books and further research
@@iloveytyay480 you thought you did something with that question
You were probably the type of student to only pay attention if the teacher played a movie.
@@joshuaa9517 no hes stating facts many informative influencers on yt have attained a degree
Going to university isn’t everything… education is!! There are various ways to educate yourself and get experience that does not always involve university.! E.g apprenticeship schemes
Nnamdi Jesse and ay milli all spoke facts this episode
If everyone wants to be a boss/ceo who's their workers? Not everyone should aim to open thier own business, its a dumb expectation only a small percentage are ceos
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@Mr jay ofc, but there's stocks, property etc i don't need to be a CEO
How many times am I gonna hear she’s a lawyer she’s a lawyer it’s enough 😂😂
Formal education as a whole is just so outdated. The world is moving so fast and yet we are in school learning the same things as our grandparents. They didn’t have the internet, e commerce, social media etc. University should be thought about like any other thing. It’s a product. If you think it’s worth the money and time then do it. If not then don’t.
Exactly
Ezo... SURGEON is a type of DOCTOR😂
Welldone Aymili! The society needs graduates!
Thank you Nnamdi and Jesse! Experiences you get through education should never be taken for granted!
University is simply teachers guiding you through text books. People need to focus on self education as being autodidactic is paramount to success in any chosen field. I personally done an IT apprenticeship and have got practical experience no one can tell me I need uni they can only tell me go Uni to learn for further studies, however In my field i can attain certifications and corroborate those certs with practical experience. I was studying sports science now I’m an IT engineer striving for senior positions. EXPERIENCE is key 🔑
but like u said ur striving for higher positions that's when people with degrees become handy I believe success in what ur doing doesn't require a degree but a promotion requires one.
Nnamdi and his scenarios 😭😭😪 and nk and his inability to debate this one was funny
If you have to go to uni for example to study Medicine or Law or whatever then but if you’re going to do something like business then go do an apprenticeship
It's that simple. Unfortunately for me I found out too late.
Their reason for voting Folake off was stupid
Nnamdi is an hater,vsue has every right too.