RANT: Judas Priest to Perform as a Four- Piece WITHOUT Andy Sneap!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Join Pete Pardo for a rant about Judas Priest's recent decision to go out as a four-piece on the road without Andy Sneap in the 2nd guitar slot. #judaspriest
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Thank you, Priest, for all the wonderful music over the past fifty years. And goodbye.
KKKKKKKK...Boa!!!
A few years ago I was naive enough to think some of these metal bands would LEARN from everything that happened with Pantera but unfortunately i was wrong. Priest without KK, Sabbath without Bill all over money. These bands really tarnished their legacy with these horrific decisions at the tail end of their career.
I also hate it when bands announce they're doing a farewell tour and don't stick to their word. It comes off as a total cash grab.
@@SuperStrik9 saw scorpions final sting tour. Stood in the rain to see it that was about 10 years ago and they're still going.
@@nachonightmare148 - Don't feel bad. Ozzy Osbourne promised 'No More Tours' 29 years ago and he's still at it.
@@BVR-fc9sn To be fair, He Thought Retirement Sucked.
Wow! I can’t even fathom them as a 4 piece. This is crazy. So many guitarists out there that could crush this gig. I would almost rather see a 5 piece Priest cover band than the real deal with 4 guys. Come on guys.
Accept, Destruction and Sodom all added an extra player recently, but Judas Priest takes one away?!?
It just doesn’t make any sense. I saw Accept and Destruction back in the 80’s but I never caught Sodom. I was just watching clips of Priest from the early 80’s at the US Festival. Man! They were on fire with the classic two guitar attack. Those were the days. Cool man.
@@topperlongo hopefully this is just a short term deal and they get another player in there.
unfortunately kk priest hasn't announced the date of the tour yet
Yea totally agree
A Judas Priest lineup as a four piece I don't think can work especially as they built their legendary reputation with two guitar players, that's what the band has always been known for. Musically it will still sound good but this will be a very short term deal, I personally think KK Downing should come back as I feel this is the best time but we'll see what happens.
Yes, so none of the parts will have the harmonies?
The latest news from Priest management is that another improvement to their streamlined metal machine us that Rob will now ride a more environmentally responsible electric vespa scooter onstage and change the title of their iconic song as PETA wanted many years ago to Hell Bent For Pleather!!
If that were true, I would legitimately kill myself
Haha, nothing would surprise me these days. 🌱
Another announcement...Rob is now Transgender and will appear in a leather ( plearher) studded skirt. The hormones will help his high range.
LOL
Good job you got the ever loving crap out of me! :-) the fact that you did though is very disturbing it means I've seen quite a lot over these last few years.
I hadn't even thought of bringing another name guy. A name you didn't say that loves Priest, Kerry King. I'd bet they're one of the few bands he'd put his personal stage schtick aside for.
You're right, it makes no sense to me either.
So sad about Glenn, one of my favorite guitar players. Wish him the best. I have seen this band with the classic lineup a few times and they were great. I don't think I will see this line up now.
Pete, you made a good point about the grief the band is getting from the single guitar attack & how JP will/should/might re-think this approach without looking foolish.... so.... Next great idea.... the rest of their tour will be all acoustic versions.... (with one guitar player of course).
Sadly, this decision can only be considered as the final step in a trend that has steadily led to this band's decline. It started with KK Downing leaving the band 2011 and now we're here. It has gone to a point where I'm questioning how much I really can stand behind the band anymore.
A couple of weeks ago, Judas Priest publiced a photo from the 80s on their Facebook page, showing Ian Hill, Glen Tipton & Rob Halford in the band's heyday. It wasn't a horrible photo by any means. The horrible thing was that they intentially left out KK Downing & Dave Holland, who both appears in the original photo. I don't mind them leaving out Dave Holland considering his past, but leaving out KK Downing was disrespectful and childish. It seems to me that the band want to erase KK's involvement and history with the band, to the point where they intentially take measures to make it happen. When Glenn, Ian, Rob & Scott talk about KK they don't call him KK or Ken but "a former guitarist", indicating that his part in the band's success and history is minimalstic and not as important as many claims it to be. Anyone who likes metal knows how essential KK is/was to the Priest sound, not alone but in interplay with Glenn Tipton, and that the band would have been jack s**t without him. He was one of the band's founding members, he was there before Glenn & Rob, and his importance for the band is bigger than Ian Hill's and Ritchie Faulkner's will ever be. It makes me sad to see Judas Priest acting like 5 year-old kids in the KK dilemma, and that they want to erase him from the band at all costs. That's not how you treat a band legend that has been fundamental for the success of the band. I don't ask for KK to return to the band (that's impossible at this point considering all the stupid s**t KK has said about the band in recent years), but I at least want Judas Priest to acknowledge him and his history with the band and give credit where it's due.
The fact that they rather play with one guitarist, thus throwing all their musical trademarks through the window, than ask KK to play with them again is a clear indicatior of how bad the blood is. I'm not behind that decision at all. Truth be told, I have never been a fan of Ritchie Faulkner. Great guitar player, but I simply don't want him in Judas Priest. When you have two guitarists that has played together for 40 years, and together have shaped the forms of heavy metal, you can't throw in a new guy and pretend that nothing has changed. Maiden were able to to it when they brought in Janick Gers, because Adrian Smith had only played in the band for less than 10 years, but for Priest it was an impossible task. The void of KK Downing can never be filled IMO, and as long as the band continue like they do now, KK's abscence will continue to shape my experience of them. I will continue to watch them live and I will listen to their new albums, because I'm a fan after all, but Judas Priest without KK Downing will never sound "complete" and "pure" to me. Like I said, I'm not asking for KK to rejoin the band at this point, but when push comes to shove, that's what I have wanted ever since he first left.
Very well spoken!
Trying to whitewash KK - AND Dave Holland - from their past is just petty and lame. Their contributions are enormous - each of them - and they should be recognized. To Rob and Company, I say, "Grow the fuck up and have some intrgrity!".
Marty, did Priest actually do that? Or, was it someone from the management? Also, not saying it's right, but K.K(like Pete said in the video) left the band before a big tour. Then, he trashed the band in his book. Also, because of what Dave did is probably why he wasn't in the photo. Also, perhaps it's a promotion thing. Why show a pic with an old lineup?
@@JIF882 Its 50th Years of Heavy Metal, why not embracing their past. they can play Rocka Rolla on tour but why cant show former member on promotion, they seems hate their Al Atkins and Ripper Owens day so they didnt write their history
@@echoofdawn7209 Where do you come up with this stuff? Al didn't sing on any album, and has even denied writing the some of the stuff he is given credit for. Also, when the band say that they hate Tim?
This is just bizarre, there's no other word for it! How in the name of bloody hell can removing one of a twin-guitar attack make them "even more powerful"?
Needless to say, it can't. They will be less, not more - and that press release is utterly transparent and patronizing. And their fans are smart enough to recognize that, of course.
Perhaps by pumping up Ian Hill's bass....
The first time I saw Judas Priest was at the Starwood in West Hollywood. 1979. They played 3 consecutive nights the during the Hell Bent for Leather tour. Binks was still the drummer. They were on fire.
Management had to be part of this wacky idea - maybe K.K. was right about a lot of the decisions made
KK has to be laughing his ass off LOL
Major heart surgery generally leaves one with reduced endurance, at a minimum. And Faulkner is supposed to handle ALL the guitar duties on a major tour? I hope they know what they've signed up for.
Maybe they called the other bands using tracks and asked how to do it.
Glad I got to see 'em the last few go-arounds because I have absolutely ZERO interest in seeing them as a 4 piece. Judas Priest is a two guitar band...period.
They were always a definitive twin guitar band, the first real metal band to have that line-up. Hard to imagine how this can work with a band whose established sound is based around having two guitarists.
Pete, as you said, Priest has always been a two-guitar band. Their going out to play concerts with one guitarist (and *not* just as a one-off, due to some last-minute emergency, but apparently, now, in an ongoing way!) is utterly absurd. A *50th anniversary* Judas Priest tour with only *one guitarist* is a Spinal Tap moment! How can they think this is a good idea?! I have no interest in seeing Priest with one guitarist.
To be clear, I absolutely *love* "This Is Spinal Tap!" It's a work of satirical genius! :-) I know that at least some of it is based in reality, which, of course, makes it even more funny. With all of this said, I don't want to see Judas Priest, one of the greatest metal bands of all time, playing out their 50th anniversary tour as if it were *an actual scene* from "Spinal Tap!"
They're going to have to play "Jazz Odyssey."
@@Chazg-cc8kc Even better, they'll play "Big Buttom" - after all, it only takes bass guitars on this one
@@Chazg-cc8kc You can't do a free-form jazz
exploration in front of a festival crowd
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I saw them in 2019, thought Andy was great, good stage presence, not interested at all in seeing “Priest” as a 4 piece now. Solid rant Pete!
This would be like Deep Purple going on tour without a Hammond organ player.Hell no.
Or Yngwie saying he'll play through one Fender amp.
There's been a few things as of late in the Judas Priest camp that have concerned me in regards to their live performances. It's clear that Rob is now using backing tracks to help bolster his vocal performance (go watch any live recordings from the 2021 shows, especially those of Painkiller and Touch of Evil), and without a second guitar, I'm assuming the band will have to use more backing tracks to compensate for a missing member.
Priest is right up there in terms of my favourite metal acts, but honestly, if they start becoming an over produced almost pop like live act with an over use of dubbed tracks, etc. I can no longer justify the decent amount of money I'd need to spend to see this band live. Either do the tour right as a five piece, or call it a career which is something I'd never thought I'd say about this band.
Unfortunately, Rob needs to read teleprompters as well. It makes it less interesting.
Too bad l.Judas Priest, has stepped over the line from being heavy metal pioneers and innovators and "the" heavy metal band to just being a heavy metal "brand".
The man is 70 years old, what does anyone expect
@@godetonter4764 Well, Arthur Brown at 79 (soon to be 80 in June of this year) doesn't need backing tracks or teleprompters so it's not a question of age but of physical and vocal condition !
@@a.k.1740 there's something most people never consider. Someone who performs in colleseums 6 to 8 months every year is putting a lot more strain on his Voice than some Underground Vocalist that decides to perform in front of people again after a 20 - 30 year hiatus. For example, Vince Neil of Motley Crue and Ozzy Osbourne of Jefferson Airplane ✈ both sound like crap , but someone approximately the same age like Luther Beltz of Witchfynde, and John Gallagher of Raven both sound like they did in 1982 . I am not implying that the Crazy World of Arthur Brown didn't sell a lot of albums in 1969 , but Judas Priest has consistently recorded popular music and kept a professional touring schedule since 1974. If anyone in Judas Priest could be worn out by 2021 it would be Rob Halford. When he left Judas Priest in 1991 he jumped right into professional touring and recording band Fight, then Two , a Solo album, and back to Judas Priest
Let’s face it-if you were the band/management and you wanted to make the biggest splash possible for the 50th anniversary tour then logically you would:
A)put KK back in opposite Richie(the nobrainer of all nobrainers)
B)finish the gig(where possible)with a 3 song encore.KK and Glenn would come out and play 2 songs to wild adulation-then Ritchie would join them for the 3rd(Hell Bent maybe)
Cue pyro and general hysteria.
Even if the KK/Glenn pairing only happened occasionally the speculation that it MIGHT at your nearest show would cause such a buzz.
It’s obvious obviously🤘
Putting aside the fact that Priest with just one guitar player wouldn't be the same, Richie Faulkner just had major heart surgery. Giving him the pressure of handling all the guitar parts himself just seems like a bad idea, health-wise.
Eu também pensei exatamente isso!
No shortage of guitar players out there.
Thank you. I was thinking the same thing.
UPDATE: The members of Judas Priest has reversed their decision to tour as a 4 piece and asked Andy Sneap to rejoin the band. Judas Priest are back as a 5 piece live band.
To me, too late. The decision making is bad now.
I respect these guys immensely, but I won't see them in concert. I had tickets for 2018 or something like that and then came Ozzy's sickness and then the pandemic. I'm excited for the new album but I really hope they will refrain from their decision in touring with one guitarist. I'm still excited for the new album. I'm positive they might top Redeemer and Firepower.
Totally agree with you Pete. Utterly absurd.
This is a mistake. I wouldn't pay to go see this and I love all versions of Priest. Even if they pick songs they can pull off with one guitar they will lack the rhythm guitar power of 2 guitars. I don't get why they don't at least get someone from Halfords band or another hired gun like a Jeff Loomis or whoever. I can't believe they aren't even trying to find a guy, it boggles the mind.
Dont need to "find" anyone. Andy.
@@dietersmit6639 Andy was doing a fine job! If he wanted to tour yes, but if he wanted to delay the tour to produce I would say find another.
Any chance this is a way to subvert expectations before secretly bringing KK back for the 50 year tour?
Doubt it, I'd think they'd want to announce it ahead to sell more tickets.
Classic ('70's) Priest is my favorite band of all time...so badass, before the cartoonish '80's...there's nothing they haven't done. So you know what? Bring on the 4-piece. I think it's a great twist for, let's face it, a dinosaur band. I love Richie, he's a monster & the perfect guitarist for Priest. Sneap performed...admirably, but I'm actually interested in seeing Priest bring it in 2022 as a 4-spot.
Pete - not a fair comparison with Lizzy or Maiden. Those two bands' song repertoire is much more heavily steeped in the whole twin guitar harmony thing than Priest ever was. Priest has always had the twin guitars, but it was more of a call & response thing than a harmony context.
I'm with you here. was a great fan of 70s Priest, until they started releasing piss- poor pop songs and then settled, as you rightly put it, for the cartoonish 80s
Priest with one guitarist is an absolute joke. No way it can be done correctly as a four-piece, unless you're using backtrax. Which is an even bigger joke. This is embarrassing.
Totally agree. No Priest as a four piece for me too.
They either should let KK come back or call it a day
@@BlindArthurBlake I don't think that would've happened anyway. KK wasn't going to take hired-help money to rejoin, and I'm sure the other three didn't feel like parting with any of their cash either. But now, after hearing a few things KK said in his book, I definitely don't think it's happening.
They will have to, or have a guitar tech backstage playing. Lame.
I saw Judas Priest at the Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, MI last September and the show was phenomenal! This was my fourth or fifth time seeing the band, while my buddy who came with hadn't ever seen them, so seeing the Sneap/Faulkner guitar duo was not a change to him (at least live). While the chemistry/dynamics of the Tipton/Downing duo were iconic, I thought the new line-up absolutely did justice to the Priest catalog, and I told my friend that even without KK and Glenn, it was still a proper Judas Priest show in all its power and glory.
I'm with you regarding Richie in that he's a great guitarist. He handled 80-90% of the leads (both KK and Glenn solos) and he's excellent at them. That said, I cannot FATHOM the Priest as a single guitar band. Are they going to use tracks, as you suggested? Will there be an unseen rhythm guitarist behind the curtain like many other metal bands use (Sabbath used Adam Wakeman for keys and rhythm guitar and it worked very well on their last tours), which would at least be a human being playing live? How the hell do they plan to adequately fill that sound?!
As far as bringing KK Downing back - and this may be unpopular with my fellow fans - I'm actually with Judas Priest for not inviting his return. He wrote a tell-all book and has said a fair amount of negative things over the years, continuing to this day when he released his own "Priest" record with Tim Owens. He planned on leaving the band after the Painkiller tour and had even penned a letter saying so, but Halford beat him to it. KK was willing to break up the group 30 years ago, and bitched publicly and privately ever since Halford came back. I can see why they believe he'd be more trouble than it's worth.
To my mind, there would be a number of guitarists who could step in and fill the vacant spot while maintaining the Priest sound. Mike Chlasciak and Roy Z. (and Patrick Lachman before him) from the Halford band honestly did a better job recreating many Priest songs on stage than Tipton/Downing did in the 90s/early-2000s when they altered keys for Ripper to sing in. I'm sure there are numerous others who could handle at least the rhythm parts while Richie handles the solos.
Thanks for getting Priest's back and explaining the other side of the story, its messed up. I think bands would rather play with their friends and lose something than hire a rando off the street to do the second guitar.
@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj Yeah, I can't see them pulling just any schmuck off the street or a cover band to play, either. At this point it would have to be someone they've worked with before, either in their projects outside of Priest or a friend they've toured / played with over the years. I looked at other comments and I see a lot in favor of Metal Mike from the Halford Band. I saw that line-up twice and it was stellar, he knows the music inside and out.
Metal Mike is the one they need!
How about a rotating group of secondary players who have been inspired by Priest over the years? I'd pay to see that!
This reminds me a bit, just a bit mind you, of the recording process for "A Tale of Creation" by Candlemass. Leif said the producer had this idea of recording only one guitar, they objected, but he insisted saying he had this vision of how great it would sound. Leif said it was sounding empty and he finally had to override him and demanded both guitarists be used! These hair brain ideas don't work!
It'd be like a four man Rolling Stones or Aerosmith. Something substantial would be missing.
I am having a very hard time trying to figure out what could drive this decision. JP wants to put ALL the guitar parts on a guy who almost died less than six months ago? AC/DC got AXL, they should be able to find another guitarist if they don't want Andy Sneap. Surely, this isn't about splitting the money four ways instead of five. That would be really sad, if true.
Guitarists are two a penny, plenty of semi pro guys available...i would be cheap
'Its like Thin Lizzy with only one guitarist' - though to be fair Lizzy did have just the one guitarist at the start and they did once do a tour (maybe a short one just in the UK - in 76 or possibly 77)with just Scott after Brian was out for the first time. However that being said they saw sense and soon went back to the twin guitars; and although Priest were at the start a 4 piece with just KK before getting Glenn in for Rocka Rolla, for them to even contemplate dropping to just the one guitarist now, just beggars belief.
Let's clear up some facts
Ian Hill is the only current member who was in Judas Priest 50 years ago.
Judas Priest are KK, Glenn and Rob, the sum of the parts if you will.
RF is a Guitar Hero, literally, his talent does not include writing melody or lead solos, he was a better fit for his favourite metal band IM.
JP has not written a song since Painkiller that makes me glad Rob came back and when KK left, they have only written stuff that makes me wish they'd stopped long since.
The only selfish reason I was pleased Rob came back was so my son could see one of the greatest metal bands of all time.
I have no right to expect them to have quit at the top, but they did once ask 'why do you have to die to be a hero'... well they have answered that question loud and clear by tarnishing the brand of a band (catchy) I was once so proud to support and be fanatical about.
Glad the rants are back! Very interested to see how it pans out. I'll bet they find a guitarist to fill in and Sneap likely couldn't commit to touring as much as the band would like due to his producing work.
Will always be known as twin guitar band. I am also a bit concerned with Ritchie touring again so soon after his health issues, which makes this decision even stranger. Much as i love Priest, Halford is struggling with his voice as well and would no longer pay to see them. Classy response from Andy Sneap
I love Judas Priest, and Rob still sounds great...but I would rather see them retire now. This band does not work without 2 guitar players. Think of every metal band that has 2 guitar players, and now think of how many of those that would work with just 1. Totally a disappointing move.
The music was written for 2 guitars. It would sound weird without the second guitar harmonising on a lot of those iconic tracks.
UPDATE: the band reversed their decision and they are keeping Andy - remaining a five-piece band.
Andy was only ever suppose to be a temporary touring musician to help the band out. I honestly decided to call it quits on JP last year before this announcement. I full understand the remaining member desire to continue to play music if it's what they love doing, but for me it's time to retire. The thing is K.K. offered to come back, and this is still what they opted for.
This definitely doesn't feel like Judas Priest anymore and it's sad seeing this happening from one of my all-time favorite heavy metal bands and kk downing needs to comeback and it pains me to say this KK's Priest feels more like Judas Priest then Judas Priest does right now.
Very well said Pete. This is becoming a joke, they should look at changing the name to Spinal Tap. They will be lucky to fil a bar soon. Look at Maiden, they have been consistently great since getting back together.
Maiden honestly makes Priest look like a joke, which is so sad considering 1982 was a peak metal year with screaming for vengeance and number of the beast in my opinion. Can’t wait to see Maiden later this year.
I’ve been hearing about this lately and thanks Pete for clearly saying what’s happening in this situation. They do need to find another guitar player then. I thought maybe if they started the tour they got the surprise touring guitar to introduce, but it doesn’t seem that way I suppose now. I do miss your rants, and this is clearly one that had to be made. Thanks always Brother! 🤘🏼
agreed .they are a twin guitar band. i cant believe this could work somehow. I have no idea why they would even consider it
I'm at a loss of words! This is really sacrilegious. I cannot really add anything new to your thoughtful and articulate diatribe. I'm a lifelong fan and feel that this is the sad swan song of a musical institution. Thanks for the memories boys!
I honestly think this is all about power. Halford showing he's the undisputed leader. Even if it hurts the bands performance, in essence us fans.....the members, past and present are shown.....it's HIS BAND.
Strange move. If they want to go with more of a sparse sound, I could be open minded. But definitely no backing tracks. Does Halford play guitar?
This ranks up there with the “New Coke” debacle. Of course, the return to “Classic” Coke made many speculate that the company did it all on purpose. Is Priest maybe up to something here? ;)
I was thinking that too.
I haven't missed a tour since Screaming for Vengeance...but I won't be seeing them again. MY ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND...RIP
I love Judas Priest. They're my favorite band, along with Dio. They're the band that got me into Metal. I've always defended them, but I can't this time! They're a two guitar band. It can be argued they helped pioneer that format. They need another guitarist! Getting a guy from a tribute or cover band would be fine with me. I also like some of the names Pete threw out. Wolf Hoffmann. Gus G. George Lynch. Chris Caffery. All great! The first names that came to MY mind were John Sykes, Warren DeMartini, Jake E. Lee, and Doug Aldrich (if they could get him away from Dead Daisies, of course). As long as the person is good, I think the fans will accept it. I know I will. I was an Andy Sneap fan going back to his work in Sabbat, so I never had a problem with him.
Hopefully, the band takes our criticism to heart! Who knows? Maybe this is all a publicity stunt to drum up press and announce somebody like George Lynch or even get KK back! I know, not likely. But stranger things have happened in the Metal world before. Regardless, they need that second player!
PS I just had to add that my comments are NOT meant to be taken as an insult to Richie Faulkner, as he is a great player and has done some awesome work with the band.
I hope kk doent come back kks priest would be better live now than priest.
Who would have ever thought that dumping Andy Sneap would be a bad move? But it's the not replacing him part that's a head scratcher. Selling Glen's here and there approach as a hopeful tactic is even more confusing? Ritchie just had a life saving surgery and now the band is on life support, WTF🤬
It happens to every legendary band, ego .... lead singer or lead guitarist, or both ... who thinks they are it. People goes to see every member play and sing the songs they love.
Absolutely BONKERS!! What's that noise? ..... Oh, it's KK laughing his butt off ;)
Unbelievable decision indeed. When AC/DC got Axl, I sold my tickets because I just couldn’t see them with him. This is the same. I have tickets for the Priest show here in The Netherlands, but I am doubting if I should go.
On a sidenote: Elton John fronting Priest would be something else!
Elton John fronting Priest would be ridiculous.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 that’s my point
I wouldn't pay to see Axl singing with AC/DC, but I think I would pay to see Elton sing for Priest. At the very least, it would be a hoot.
Well, he played with Saxon.
@@seethroughhead505 Indeed he did!
I saw "B Team" Judas Priest live in 2021 and Andy was clearly there just to fill in the background, Richie was unquestionably favored as Andy stood in the background the whole time and barely played any solos. The whole time I kept thinking why isn't KK up there with Richie this makes no sense.
Nowhere near a fan of the band of the caliber of most SoT commenters, co-captains, and you, too, Pete. Like those fans, cannot comprehend what the band must be thinking - particularly after having sold so many tickets for the coming shows. As one of my grandfather's used to say: "You gotta be sure not to shit where you eat." The band has now laid out the big turd, so to speak. All that aside, hoping that you will go to the concert - regardless of the configuation of the group - and then have a show expressing your thoughts and review of the concert. Your rant is spot on and Chris Alo was on a roll on last night's Hudson Valley Squares episode regarding this very topic. Those watching this who may not regularly watch those episodes should be SURE to hear Chris' quite compelling rant/discussion of the topic. Thanks for venting!
I agree with you, Pete, that this is not a good decision. I have tickets for that show also, which I'll be taking my son to see. As good as Andy apparently has been, his real job is as a record producer, not as a touring musician. It's a totally different lifestyle, and I imagine he's had to turn down a lot of work due to his commitments playing with Priest, and had he said that as an explanation, I would have said, OK, that's fine. I understand. Why not hire another guy who can play the music and do the live shows, and just keep the band as a four piece in the recording studio? I think you may see them change their minds on this.
Firstly,thanks Pete for reading out my comment ,(maniac/april fools),hearing that was a wow moment for me for sure,it's impossible to fathom how anyone could seriously see this as a good idea,the fact that their management clearly did shows incredible ineptitude,if as mentioned this is a money decision,then fire the management member responsible and use that saved salary to add that required 2nd guitarist for the live shows ! To end your career and 'celebrate' 50 years in this way is by far the most ludicrous decision,maybe now the tour should be The 50 Years & Tainted Tour 2022
Would be cool to see Michael Schenker or Wolf Hoffmann play with them!!
What about Kerry King?
Iron Maiden have three guitarists....it's not fair 😩
@@robbiekop7 Helloween too
You nailed it - my thoughts exactly!!! I am extremely disappointed!! Crowds will be minimal once the tour starts up. HORRIFIC!!!
Great rant ! I don’t understand this decision myself . Priest is all about Halford’s vocals and the twin guitar attack . It already seemed different before this now it’s really really different. Head scratcher.
The only way I can figure it is if they use a offstage keys/guitar guy in the Sabbath mould, a touch more noble than pure backing track but still bizarre in the context of Priest.Just tell Ritchie to enlist his father in law!
Thank you for wearing the Budgie shirt. R.I.P. Burke Shelly.
Loved the Iron Maiden without Dave Murray and Adrian Smith comparison.
Love your t-shirt. Budgie forever! RIP Shelley.
Hi Pete, did you know George Lynch is actually Richie F's father-in-law? Yes he is. Great comments - keep on rocking! Brett
Well that confirms my choice of going to see them this coming year. Glad I saw them in their prime with Glenn & KK and I would have seen them with Richie & Andy (Not quite the same) but not now. Reminds me when Molly Hatchet decided to go out on tour last year with just one guitar player. Just save my concert money & listen to their CD's now.
Guess when KK tours, that'll be the closest we'll get to Priest again. They might as well tour with "Foreigner".
I'm going to see them in March. Been so much drama this past year and now this. How bizarre.
I am pretty put off by this news. Thankful I saw the line up in 2005. The tour in 2018 was great too and I love Firepower, but at this point I feel it's time to pack it in. Maiden disappointed me (a little) with Senjutsu, but this is worse by far.
This makes absolutely no sense. I hate seeing one of my top 5 bands deteriorate like a lot of my other favorite bands (KISS, Bon Jovi, Mötley Crüe, Ratt, Dokken, Black Sabbath (Without Bill Ward), Queensryche, Def Leppard). It's so unfortunate. The really sad thing is that they WILL NOT go back to K. K.! They should at this point if this is what they are going to do, but there is too much bad blood. I hate to say it, but I think it's time for the mighty Priest to retire. Also, Andy Sneap always said he never wanted to be a permanent member but he sort of became one and I don't think he was happy about it. So, I'm not surprised by this, in a way. Got to see them 4 or 5 years ago. I want to see them again but I might just skip it, unfortunately.
Yes, I read that too and it definitely left me scratching my head. I don't have much room to talk though since I haven't seen Priest since the Turbo tour (I think).
If I were you, I'd go see Queensryche and stick around to watch Priest until you can't stomach anymore (I hang around for awhile mostly out of curiosity). Otherwise, leave the gig and go have some beers and chew the fat about how great they were in their hey day.
"Game over...GAME OVER, MAN!"
I used to cover Victim of Changes on one guitar. It was good but not good enough for an actual Judas Priest show.
Great Video Pete!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even an "unplugged" set would require 2 guitars. There must be more to this.
snap! not really into speculating but i think maybe more to this...
So basically Priest has one fewer guitarist than needed and Maiden has one more guitarist than needed :)
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Exactly.
I am picturing that scene in Spinal Tap where they play Sea World as a one guitarist band. "We hope you appreciate our new direction....."
You summed up my feelings completely. I had tickets to 2 shows. I am glad I sold one of them.
I think I’m gonna listen to Halfords Live Insurrection album. Great twin guitar work and fantastic renditions of Priest classics!!!
This really makes me think of a good topic for discussion. Should bands “Retire”? I mean, athletes retire because their skills diminish with age and to see some of these bands, legendary bands, drag on and continue. I don’t know. I love these bands too, but just thought it was an interesting topic for discussion. Cool.
If they have an audience, why not. ?
The only reason I can think of is a financial one. They can't afford to pay another guitarist. Sad. Pete, you're fortunate enough to get to see them. Here in Australia, we'd be lucky to see a fly cross the country by next year.
Personally I'd only go if kk was back. It's more a Rob solo act again
Agreed without kk it's not same band, but even without Glenn, its ridiculous, call it Halfords priest. Not judas priest
Way to disrespect Ian and Scott. Ian is an original member, and Scott has been in the band for three decades
@@JIF882 yes ian is original members Scott is not. So. What . Does it mean it's Judas because of one fuking original member. Not in my book. You go ahead and support them.i wi not I saw them in good old days .
@@tonyn3227 Like I said, Scott may not be an original member, but he has been in the band for three decades. Are you suggesting that they bring back Alan Moore?
@@JIF882 I know Scott has been in band since 1990, he is great drummer, but without kk and Glen it's not judas priest, plus reforming as 4 piece band with only one guitarist, no thanks, but hey you have fun
This is bizzarre! Priest with one guitar on the road?? Thats an impossible thought. Saxon, Priest, Lizzy, Tygers and Accept all need twin guitars. Thats what their all about.
Ranting is good !Richie will not be able to play alone without a rhythm guitar backing track and that sucks. Really WEIRD. But,Pete,A Big THANK YOU for the Budgie t-shirt!!!!!!!!
I have tickets for Foxwoods and now I’m upset! That’s ridiculous!
This is ssssssuch a rant topic!
Good choice Peter and thanks :)
Change of plans just announced everything will remain the same 🤘🔥🤘
I've never seen Priest live, and was looking forward to finally doing so. No way in hell I'll see them now with how gimped they will be! Also the cheapest ticket is $100+, then I have to pay $120+ for a room and transportation. Seriously, WTF Priest!!!!
The two guitar interplay and attack was always essential to the Priest sound. Please do not erode your legacy on what should be a victory lap. I know the rhythm parts and would gladly play them for room and board. And a lot of better guitarists than I would be proud to play.
I've seen the original lineup 5 times back in the day so I would not see JP live as a four piece. This is a bad decision by the band. If they had any integrity they should resolve their differences with K.K. and make their fans happy for the 50 year tour.
I agree, it’s two-guitar music. To digress: Pete, I like your Arrow & Flash artwork.
People are sick of being lied to all day by everyone, so being told we'll be more relentless and powerful less a guitarist just seems like more of the same. Not cool.
Marketing. It's what the whole world is built on now.
Great option Pete mentioned...Chris Caffery.
Sneap is a mate of mine, Ive known him for over 25 years. Great bloke... I cant say anymore but this isnt the end of the story.
When I heard that this was going down I thought it must have been a bad joke! Priest are pioneers of the dual guitar attack it goes against everything that makes Priest the legendary influential band they are. I've supported the lineup changes but this I couldn't support it would be a disservice to the fans and be a lowlights in their career in what more than likely will be their last world tour I believe. I've been a Priest fan for over 40 of my 50yrs so I'm invested . I'm glad they've come to their senses and the blowback has changed their minds Sneap has filled in nicely. It would have been a dream come true if KK were welcomed back to the band he formed but unfortunately that bridge has burned ! I feel this is the beginning of a soon to be end for one of the most influential and prolific bands in history let's enjoy what we all have left!
Honestly y'all are ungrateful as hell. Like these guys are in their 60's & 70's and touring is a logistical nightmare thanks to COVID-19, and here you are moaning that Judas Priest won't have two guitarists, a decision which days later was reversed. What a waste.
Priest has been my favorite band since the early 80's. This move is inexplicable, and though it probably doesn't mean much, I won't pay to see them as a 4 piece.
I got tickets to the Jersey show as well and I am on the fence as to whether I'll sell them or not, but who would want to buy them? My family is coming with me and they where so excited. My only thought is that someone in the band (perhaps Rob?) is going to hang it up after the tour and they want to get it over with as opposed to postponing the tour until they find an ample replacement.
Is it ironic that they have a two guitar band opening for them?
Which band is that?
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 queensryche
Hey Pete! I’m not even a fan but curious to hear what you had to say. EVERYTHING you I said I agree!!!