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what I found never mentioned in any pen tablet reviews that, wacom default pen pressure configuration set to ignore the initial 5% pressure detection (which most people won't notice), which is important for me that draw lightly, and keep switching between drawing with pencil and digital. I have a wacom intuos pro and huion kamvas 22, the lack of light pressure sensitivity on huion pen is especially more noticeable after I just got back from drawing with pencil on paper. Now I swtiched back to draw with my wacom intuos pro for digital art because that 5% is a big deal for me
This is where Wacom is better. I am also a light-handed artist, and that low actuation makes a big difference. Most artists I've met scrap their tablets while drawing so it this doesn't matter. However, I'm someone who doesn't do that and because of that the other brands still feel worse to me. I also hardly replace my nibs, some of these artists on RUclips straight up say they replace their nibs every 6 months lmao. I bet if I sat next to them, I'd hear a knife scraping their tablet.
I own two Huions and also a cintiq pro 24. The Wacom cursor doesn’t lag. I notice it on my Huion tablets. That kills the natural draw feeling imho. That one thing alone is worth the extra $600
The review was more positive than I would expect given the issues shown. Those tapers are ugly. Someone needs to make a device that performs like the iPad, but on desktop, and put 3 (not two, 3) macro keys on the pen. The only thing holding iPad back is that you can’t run the same software. That’s it.
@Haruka Matata I work in studio operations for a medium sized studio that works on AAA games (30+ artists). We've tried all of the cheaper brands and products featured on this channel and after 1000+ hours of usage, ALL of our artists say Wacom and Apple products are definitely superior in terms of reliability, consistency and compatibility with all of the professional applications we use. It's not some random bias some people have.
@Haruka Matata Nah, he generally reviews and points problems in all of them, be it Xp-Pen, Huion, Wacom, if is cables, response, gamma, color , etc. He makes very clear while you are paying premium for Wacom pen and is fairly good, still the difference on Price is not justified. Maybe you expect Someone like Aaron Rutten, that reviews every Wacom like is his favorite Toy or something, and is the best thing since sliced bread, never complains about price, and if he reviews" something else", he starts "why u no Wacom".. + avoids anyone commenting on his videos for 'personal reasons'. His channel is what Transformers movies are to the Toys. Nowadays tablets are getting very close specially since Wacom EMR patent reached its end, and sine Wacom Quality has been having some problem lately. That's why they have been releasing "budget" graphic tablets on recent years.
@Paul those taper issues are a total non-issue in practice. You have to learn how to use this tool, just like any other. In fact, I don't see this taper issue at all on my Cintiq Pro 16, so I think everyone is making WAY to much of a big deal about it.
Outside of the brand, it will be interesting if it really makes them "new generation". Watched the review, I think they need innovation. I don't know what that is in the tablet display game BUT if its not a jump in specs then I wouldn't suggest buying this over less expensive alternatives.
I believe that 16" is a perfect size considering portability. Nowadays it's possible to make your design studio anywhere, considering the pandemic made remote work grow, and me and many of my designer collegues moved from having dedicated set-ups to only few portable strategic design tools. That being said, price comes at hand, because technology is made more affordable by the competitors, meaning that high-end tools are now more accessible than 5 or 6 years ago. Having more options is really good when it comes to know where you want your work to be developed and how much can you invest to have it. Now, I believe the next steps these companies have to consider is the refinement of the already stablished platforms, and the rise of the tablets/3-stage-laptops. This refinement should also come with dedicated/native software development for the creators to have a more swift workflow. And finally, it will come at some price bump, but a justifiable one.
I feel like Huion, XP-Pen and the like are letting Wacom get away with stagnating in their top spot. None of them (to my knowledge) have yet developed a screen tablet with touch, which personally is a deal-breaker. If Wacom's the only place to get touch capability, then they're the only option for someone who's used to navigating that way, and $1500 is the entry price point. Really rough stuff that makes standalone tablets like the Galaxy lineup and iPad seem much more feasible, but then they come with their own limitations... I'd love 16:10 aspect ratio as well as using OLED or microLED - the fact that this price point doesn't by default make it the most fantastic, rock-solid screen on your setup is something Wacom needs to seriously consider. But nobody else is competing with better visual fidelity, so they stick with 'good'. I really want to see 120 HZ refresh rate or higher. I know it's mostly a gaming display thing, but even those aforementioned standalone tablets (including ones with Wacom tech!) are pushing 120 frames per second and it feels absolutely dreamy to draw at a higher refresh rate like that. This seems like a decent improvement over the Pro 16 that I have, but nowhere near a worthy 'upgrade'. Wacom just seems content to make minor refreshes when these products feel like they're outdated the very month they came out.
@@MaskedMammal I think your mention of standalone tablets warrant more attention. I'm on the Tab S7 with its OLED screen at 120 Hz. With the help of a 3rd party app (Superdisplay), it's practically a 12.4 inch Cintique. And its pen is Wacom tech. Now with the release of the Tab S8 Ultra, we practically have a 14 inch 16:10 OLED Cintique. Having huger screen real estate (16, 24, etc) is wonderful, I'm sure, but honestly, I'm having a great time on the 12.4" display. And upgrading to S8 Ultra's 14" screen will be a perfect sweet spot in terms of user experience and price to value ratio.
@@trenton9 That's a great tip, actually! I'll have to try that out, myself. I snagged a Tab S7 for doing art while away from home ($150 brand new, if you can believe it) and it's a fantastic screen, really responsive. If I can just use it like my Cintiq then the only thing it's missing is the nicer Pro Pen.
@@MaskedMammal adding touch capability is nothing but pointless price increase. Having dedicated KBs, macropads, controllers,... next to your screen tablet enables you stylus tip to be full-time dedicated to the screen/canvas. It always been a thing, you dont use desktop programs on desktop setup like you do with mobile tablet devices like Ipad. Wacom knows that too for years, that why they still have a dedicated physical button on top of their tablets to disable Touch feature.
I think the most exciting thing about a new Wacom launch is actually used/open-box models dropping in price. When they last updated the Cintiq 22, the price stayed at £869.99, but I managed to score a last gen 22HD for £500. The most exciting thing about a new product is getting the last generation product (which is more than good enough, I love my 22HD) for a great price.
That’s a good point; since the tech doesn’t change as much (it’s already been “good enough” for years on Wacom), used or refurb devices are a great option.
Like you say in the review. The price bump does not represent a justified equal quality bump. I still have my Wacom 24 but my xpen 15.6 honestly does an amazing job as well. Going to stick with them or Huion going forward unless Wacom earns that price bump again
I've been using the XP Pen Artist 15.6 pro, the one that came out WAYYYY back in 2019 until now, and it's served me very well. I don't care THAT much about screen resolution. I've always wanted this tablet because of the improved drawing experience. That's always been the selling point of Wacom's products. I hope that what's talked about in this review comes down to personal experience because I REALLY want this tablet and I would be disappointed if I spend all that money on a tablet that perfroms just as well as or only marginally better than the one I've been using for the past 2 and a half years. Great review though!
I doubt they will earn that. The competition has become so good and so close to the features that Wacom is offering, that the price bump isn’t justified at all anymore. The new Pro XP-Pen and Huion models are offering more now than the Wacom top of the line. While they may have had lesser quality and features, that’s not the case anymore. If Wacom keeps on releasing subpar products at top prices, they may well loose an even larger chunk of the market.
@@benjamina6915 that would be a shame. Like… you saw the tapering problem Brad mentioned in the video, right? That’s REALLY concerning. I’m PRAYING that it’s a driver problem or that he got a bad unit or something.
I love my cintiq 16, the cheap one. I tried the XP pen artist pro 16 last year and was almost perfect except the line wobble. I’m probably just going to wait for the next large Wacom tablet.
As a longtime Wacom user I always felt that the brand is somehow losing touch (no pun intended...) in relation to their leader status in this niche market. They're not alone in the game and have to face further competition with multipurpose devices such as tablets. So what the traditional Wacom user should expect? A better designed tool, improved and exclusive features, a redesigned driver, even a more competitive pricing. Did we get it? Well, no. Wacom really has to up their game - six years to "update" a model is too long, and with very few added functionality is hard to keep recommending it as a tool. Still good but not good enough...
@Paul And ditch the IPS, add 120 Hz panels, maybe add 3D hardware LUTs. Make them lighter, get rid of the bezels. Better remotes etc. There's so much to make these devices better and to stand out from the competition. Especially for the price we are paying.
@Paul Lol it makes you a pro if you spend 2000 $ for an extension of your display that is bulky with bunch of cables, that it doesn't even give you the quality in all terms for that money, that is just lol, you are a pure capitalism consumer then
As someone who owns the original 21UX since 2010 and a Companion since 2014 - one doesn't need updated models. 21UX was $7k and paid itself off that same week, Companion made me hundreds of thousands in jobs. Real professionals don't need the latest tech and gadgets, and Cintiqs are incredible and no one does a better job than Wacom. Why would you need a modem each year?
Interesting to see a review of this, given that I have its direct predecessor, the 2016 Cintiq Pro 16, that I bought in 2017. I do most of my digital drawing on my iPad nowadays, but I do occasionally use the Wacom for Photoshop and Magma Studio (the latter being a browser-based collaborative drawing app). The built-in ExpressKeys do look like a major step up from the old model (where I have an awkward double-dongle sticking out the side to use the ExpressKey remote), but overall I think I'm going to stick with my current Wacom tablet. (especially since I need a new iPad more, fingers crossed for a new iPad Pro in tomorrow's keynote)
I don’t see them updating the M1 iPad now. The pros usually get an 18 month update cycle. So that would have the update at an October event earliest. Seeing the spec jump it made from the 2020 version, I wouldn’t put it past Apple to update it in 2023. They will launch the new Air. Probably give it the A15 chip and lift the RAM to 6gb. If you want an iPad Pro get it now. The performance is amazing. And even if there is a new one coming in October, it will take 6 months for the apps to properly optimise for it. I have the M1 iPad I bought on launch. Procreate would only recognise it as an entry level iPad and I barely had layers on it. The fix took a month so it could match the 6gb RAM iPad Pro, and it wasn’t until several months later it could access my 16gb of RAM (it actually just recognises 12, but it’s an improvement).
I had a Cintiq pro 16 for half a year in 2017 before selling it, what an utter POS! 4k didnt work without a mac so you got blurry 1440p, ran so hot it was like resting your hand on a hot plate, that awful cooling fan whined like a mini banshee; and the touch and palm rejection was unreliable. Liked the fact it had a laminated screen before any of the Chinese tablets though, but that was the tablet that had me swear off Wacom after using Intuos since i was a kid, and long using a 12wx, 13hd and 22hd. The nicer Wacoms are not built for real work anymore, they are built like apple products, delicate and compromised.
I am in the same situation. i prefere working on my Ipad pro (10") than on my Cintiq Pro 16" first gen. since several years. I just grab the Wacom device when i have to make some work on softwares that don't exist on tehe Ipad, and it's always a pain in compared ergonomics...
@@anasevi9456 what a bunch of bullshit! That tablet doesn't overheat and the fan noise is not loud at all, what are you talking about? Also, you can get 4K with a PC, you have no idea what you're talking about Just because you have no idea how to setup your tablet, doesn't mean it's not possible. If you say other brands are better, you must be out of your mind and don't appreciate quality
I have this and honestly, loved the pen performance. I noticed the taper issue as well in CSP, but it doesn't bother me as it only happens in quick strokes (also I think turning off stabilization by speed reduce the issue a bit). But personally, jitter is more important to me and this basically has none of it. Display is decent and seems to be color accurate, but Wacom can definitely do better at this price point. I don't mind the IPS tech, but the main problem is my unit suffer from backlight bleeding in one part of the screen, which can be a bit distracting when viewing dark content. That said, I like the textured surface and surprisingly, the multi-touch is pretty great and I personally never see any issue with palm rejection.
Hey there! I've had a Cintiq 22HD since 2012, but I really need to downgrade size for my personal comfort. Now... seeing a lot of reviews, I notice a trend of disappointment and a LOT of issues with the Cintiq 16 models, especially the newer 2021 Pro 16. It's making me question my decision to go for one, even though it really would be the best option for me. I've heard that despite many improvements, the XP-PEN similar sized tablets have a lot of issues with longevity (many people seeing their pen displays fail after 1.5-ish years). How has your Cintiq Pro 16 experience been? Would you still recommend it? I'm so torn!
@@zerasuprime aside of the backlight bleeding (noticable only in dark scene), this has been a joy to use personally. For drawing, it's as good as it can be I think. I bought a Pro Pen Slim and I prefer that than the standard Pro Pen, as it's lighter and feels more like a normal pen/pencil. I also get the additional vesa stand for Cintiq 16, which works with this model too. There's plenty of angle adjustment with it and I think it's essential. If you can swallow the cost of both the display and stand, there doesn't seem to be a better option on the market right now.
In a dream world, I’d love for apple to refresh the Pro Display XDR with the new mini leds and pen support of the iPad Pro to make just the ultimate professional drawing display. Something like the surface studio seemed like the dream large format drawing tablet, so if someone can capture that in a standalone display with good pen support, it would really disrupt wacoms hold on the professional side of this space.
@@thebradcolbow well after Apple adding their M1 chip to the latest iPad Air today you may only have to wait to the later part of this year to get that dream iPad Pro 🤯
@@yourfriendrich the iPad pro already had M1 though right? Theres now just slightly less distinguishing the 11" models. The dream iPad pro really needs Mac app support or apple to finally bring things like FCPX or logic to ipadOS
I find that the 16" is the best average size. I have the original Wacom 16" Cintiq. But I got it for $800. I would not pay more for it, Especially seeing that a 12.9" iPad Pro provides more options for the price of the new Cintiq version. I think Wacom can do better price wise.
@@kalel33 Current gen tablets is quite 'literally' full blown computers. With some boasting more power than some laptops on the market. OS is all up to preference, but for most people, current tablets can do everything desktops and laptops can do. In the case of M1 tablets, perhaps faster (which is kinda nuts tbh)
@@radiospines It's still a tablet OS, which is handicapped by programs you can run...which was my entire point. That's not even counting on storage space. If it's a computer replacement and tablet then you'd want at least 1TB of storage space. That relegates you to the IPad Pro M1, which is $1800. I don't even have a laptop any longer but I do own a tablet and a desktop computer, with no tablet being able to replace my desktop....M1 chip or not.
The iPad is great.... until you need to draw in a program that isn't on iOS... like every professional VFX, and Animation program. Even Photoshop on the mac is lightyears ahead of the iOS version.
I purchased the huion 16 4k pro and it’s amazing. I have the older version of the Wacom cintiq pro 16 and I think the Huion is much better. You can also connect the Huion with a usb c to usb c cable.
There used to be a time when Wacom was the only game in town for reliable (and expensive) pen displays and many of us forked out hard cash for them, but that ship in all honesty sailed a long time ago. If I want to experience sick precision and natural drawing off a display tablet, nothing yet comes close, in my experience, to the iPad Pro/Pencil 2 combo. And when I want to go bigger I use a 24” XP-PEN Artist Pro display with plenty of express keys + jog wheels that is about half the cost of this Wacom and has worked great for me so far. I don’t feel that I need anything else on this respect for now. Speaking from my own experience, for what it’s worth.
With a higher resolution, you would need a larger screen as a smaller screen compresses the pixels which can create compact and splotchy strokes. I think the 24 inch version allows the 4K pixels to spread out more evenly.
I've been waiting to see an updated version of the 16" and man Wacom really is getting lazy and greedy. I'm glad I got a Huion for 3 times less. Also recently got an iPad Air for work on the go and both of those combined are still cheaper than this. The iPad even has a better display.
Of course the iPad has a better display it's from 2022, but that display is way smaller, if it were of the wacom's size, you would be playing significantly more. Don't tell me you can do the same work better on an iPad than on a significantly larger display which was built for drawing
@@ocadyen7044 The Air model I got was originally released in 2020... My old Wacom was a 12 inch so the air isnt too much different 10" and the Pros are 13 I believe. So yeah I am able to get the same work done on it as my Huion. Alot of digital artists are using iPads for illustration thanks to Procreate.
2:09 you don't want amoled on a pro device unless you've got enough business to justify replacing it yearly. Burn in is not good. 500 cd/cm2 2560x1600 IPS would be my preferred option.
Great Review! I've been looking at a Wacom for a while but compared to the drawing experience in Procreate on the Ipad Pro 12.9, its a hard leap to make. Man, wish Apple would give us a 17 inch iPad Pro!
Do you people use or find usable Apple's Sidecar for using your iPad as a drawing tablet in Photoshop o Illustrator? I've been debating if this is a reasonable option and most videos on this topic are pretty outdated. I would appreciate if you share your experience :)
@@juancarlosg.zuniga1410 You can use AstroPad and whatever other derivative they offer for iPad/MacOS if what you need is precision drawing on MacOS. That being said ...iPad Pros + Procreate should let you do 95% of work already. A lot of Japanese artists work this way. They either do their linework, inking, etc traditionally or on Procreate and then scan or transfer over to CSP/PS for anything that can only be done on the PC, but precision isn't needed there so regular Intuos tablets are very common.
"This is touch enabled..." which is how they justify charging $400 extra for it somehow. I'm also disappointed but not surprised that the display is just... standard. For what wacom charges, this thing should be a MicroLED screen with a 120Hz display. Hopefully one day soon, Xense labs or one of wacoms other competitors will finally force them to be competitive.
oh yeah, cause those things are so cheap at this size, right? What the heck is so special about those Chinese knock offs? How cares they updated the panel if the brightness is 220 cd/m? Who wants that shitty luminosity on their screen? You clearly are not tech savvy, otherwise you woudln't spew stuff like that
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I don’t understand why Wacom changed the pen holder design. I loved the old one on my intuous tablet, it was perfect. I invested in the cintiq 24 when It came out and the holder really surprised me. It’s less intuitive and I managed to lose a nib because I didn’t realise it wasn’t completely closed one time. It does look more modern but the old one worked better imo.
Couldn't agree more. Is one those cases of redesigning just for te sake of it. Tried and tested products should be slightly improved not radically changed and with no added functionality.
Bought this model a week ago and have already returned, I'm very pissed because I had very similar issues to some reports over at Reddit and my country's Amazon reviews: - The box itself doesn't have any interior foam or additional protection, so the only thing protecting your tablet against shipping is ONE thick box layer. - The chasis came bent in the top right part of the device, almost as if the plastic wasn't glued properly to the glass - One of my fans wasn't working properly compared to the other one, the noise was lower and the wind felt weaker, consequently that side of my screen was much hotter than the other one. - Either way the unit was getting HOT, not burning hot but definitely uncomfortable hot. - The express keys on the left side were squeaky and not properly in place. When I pay $1500 i.e. Apple levels of money I expect an Apple level product, this was a horrible experience and I'll probably never buy a Cintiq again.
Was the return process easy? I just ordered one and I’m definitely going to test it hardcore as soon as it arrives, especially with what everyone’s saying
Seems like I'll be sticking with the Huion line. Small feedback idea, if you are up for it: when you showed the tablet screen next to your laptop to compare colors, it would have been extremely helpful if both had the same image on them. To see the quality difference clearer. Otherwise, a perfect review, I always get all the info I need from you!
Actually more curious how far behind Huion and or Xp Pen are on Wacom!? Seeing the previous mentioned are refreshing more often. And also what kind of future development do you hope in the Drawing Tablets will get??
@@bsigns1935 Wacom also suffers from this. Check their subreddit. The days of Wacom being higher quality are long gone. You today are just paying for the name.
I didn't see any videos on the wacom bambo vs. remarkable would you suggest one over the other for general note taking? I watched your video on the remarkable one just trying to figure out which one is best...
I have a habit of zooming and out when I am drawing using touch gesture instead of keyboard shortcuts. Do you think having a bigger screen mitigate that? Just drawing on bigger screen?
Hello, Brad Colbow. I like your review of the products and got interested in getting a tablet but I'm new to drawing on a digital display and havent used one before, but I wanted to try it out which tablet do you recomend? I was looking at the Huion Kamvas Pro 13 and the Wacom One.
he made a smackdown video comparing the wacom one and the huion kamvas 13 (regular ver. not pro i believe) last year if that helps here's the link: ruclips.net/video/vP_-kE0b8WE/видео.html&ab_channel=BradColbow
@@panickedshears Thanks, yeah I saw it I'm leaning more to wards the Huion kamvas 13 now but they just released the pro with a 2.5k screen so I'm unsure again between the 13 and the new 13 pro. Thanks again for the link to his video.
Maybe I'm just misremembering (to coin a phrase), but I recall the old 16" Pro had a lot of technical, product flaws. Let's hope they have ironed those out. Even so, they still need to justify the price in this age of much-improved competition. Of course, that never stopped Apple... ;)
That rings a bell for me too, but I can’t recall if they were software or hardware related. I think the Mobile Studio Pro came out around the same time and also had a number of hardware issues. In general I want to say Wacom had more QA problems for a few years back there, but other than some driver problems with the new M1 Macs I don’t feel like I’ve noticed as many recently.
The iPad pro is SO absurdly good I can't believe Wacom haven't tried to raise the bar at all. How can the user experience, display quality, pen feel, refresh rate, and palm rejection be so much better on iPad when that is ALL these Wacoms are meant to do. The only thing better about a Wacom is the fact that you can/have to plug it into a computer. I feel like Apple could take Wacom's market share in an instant with a custom tablet of their own. It would be like the PRO XDR coming in and clapping pro level color monitors for a fraction of the price. I'm not even an apple fanboy (just an iPad one lol) but this lack of innovation in the professional space should be laughed out of the room. Not that I think Apple would do that, but they could start with a bigger iPad pro and work with adobe to get some of their suite on ios. I'm a firm believer that if the software was there, very few people would need more than an ipad with a keyboard these days. Even 3d sculpting is very doable on the ipad, and I don't even have an M1. Software is all we need man.
@@chris60036 True but it is slightly rubberized tbf. I recently upgraded to some hard nibs with a paperlike screen protector and it is insanely nice to draw on.
@@chris60036 a matte screen protector fixes that completely. I feel like Apple Pencil needs proper buttons to be fully functional though, that's one thing I miss from my Wacom pen - double tap on Apple Pencil is hit or miss unfortunately
@@anam00090 Thanks - I’ve tried the paperlike but it didn’t make much difference - scratches easily and is still a hard surface to draw on. I actually went from iPad to Wacom having loved the Pro, Pencil and Procreate. I just love the way it feels on the Wacom. I only wish Procreate was available for my Mac
Completely agree, which is why I'm getting an iPad Pro soon and downgrading to whatever Intuos Pro comes next (the current models are already 5 years old ffs) if anything needs to be retouched on PC. I've heard some rumors on Apple working on a bigger tablet and now that Samsung has released their Ultra it's more likely than ever that we're gonna get a true Wacom competitor by Apple.
currently in the market looking for an upgrade to my intuos. One thing that may genuinely make me go wacom again is the pen, I use two buttons on it and the eraser nib all the time, none of t-e competition have pen with 2 buttons and eraser at 4K and decent colour gamut
Honestly after you use a Wacom pen its hard to use anything else. Even as good as some of the competitors claim to to be (and really they are just copying Wacom), they just feel like using a cheap tablet by comparison. I tried a Huion and after two days returned it because of really bad lag, dropouts on light strokes and parallax problems. It was like switching from a top of the line iPhone to a mid priced Android. I went back to the Cintiq where I have never have to even think of these issues.. Its MILES better for me. Price is important, of course, but time and stress and a good working experience is more crucial to me.
I recently upgraded from a Cintiq 21UX (2nd generation) to a Cintiq Pro 24. The ExpressKey remote is a severe downgrade. It slides along the empty bezel and I have to plug it in to keep the battery charged. I remember waiting to buy the 21UX until they added features from the Intuos 4. Dual touch strips on the back was nice as I could zoom with my dominant hand and change brush size with the other. Mode toggle in the middle and equal amount of buttons on either side, very easy to customize. The remote is closer to the Intuos 3 design, bunching the buttons up and expecting you to recognize them by feel. Wacom's lineup is confusing (Wacom One, Cintiq, Cintiq Pro with and without touch, etc.) so I understand why they're slowly implementing hardware changes. Imagine if every model only came with touch when they rolled that out or kept the ExpressKeys to the remote. The problem is competition's catching up with things like 4K and brush stabilization. If they want to keep justifying that premium price they have to knock it out of the park, which is very hard for any company to do consistently
I see many of these comments about screen quality, from artists that don't draw for an actual living and use ipad computer tablets.... of course an iPad or other tablet will work perfect and honestly have better screen quality in a lot of ways. However, If you are a professional artist, graphic designer, animator. Etc. That needs to use actual professional PC programs and not just free android apps. WACOM is the top of the top for a quality monitor.
Hard agree, drawing experience and ergonomics will be far better on a dedicated device like pen tablets/pen displays. iPad is just a consumer product that needs a lot of set-up to make it comfy to draw on for longer sessions. The Apple Pencil weight, thinness and skating all over the screen with it's hard plastic nibs are a perfect recipe for hand injuries. Not to mention that iPad needs a stand just so you don't destroy your neck and back but also to prevent any possible hand cramps due to the lack of thick bezels for your hand to rest on when near the edge. iPads are a trusty art companion, yes, but I don't see anyone working 8 hours a day and still have a body in a good state.
You know what might make the higher price worth it? If Wacom products last longer before breaking down. I don't know if it does. I know I have a huion pro 16 for these last two years and the power button is broken, and the cable randomly cuts out. There's other little random glitches that I didn't notice in the first week of use but became apparent shortly after. Could these issues happen with a Wacom? I don't know. But seems to me it's something a reviewer should consider. Not just specs. Especially a reviewer that cares about packaging and the environment. I don't want to be buying new devices every two years. Can you talk about longevity and reliability?
I’ve seen many artists who report using their Wacom products for years and years - but you can also find users who report having technical problems, either with software and compatibility or hardware breaking down. As always, those with problems will be more vocal and more motivated to air their discontent, so we have no idea what the actual rate of failure is. In general, my sense is that most Wacom products can remain in service for at least 5 years and often more. However, this is incredibly hard for a reviewer to test at scale in a methodical way, short of running long term user survey panels like Consumer Reports does. As far as I know, Wacom remains the industry standard, which may tell us more about reliability than any of this anecdotal data - however even that could be due to inertia or accepted wisdom & brand loyalty in the digital art world.
@@AnalogKensho there's always random fails in any product for sure. Differences in use, and abuse etc. But I have been looking at the second hand market for clues. Wacom sees a much lower depreciation in price when getting an item second hand compared to XP pen and huion. You definitely can see more older wacom devices in apparently good working order available for sale. As for reviewers, I think they should be spending a longer period with these products before releasing a review. When they resell or gift them it should be under the condition that they keep in touch and give feedback on issues that crop up. Really the least of all is to at least mention low long the device is might to last.
I've heard from people that they can be quite long lasting!! I've seen someone say they've been using their cintiq for 10 years and that's when they bought it used even haha. (I myself had my Cintiq13HD for 4.5 years so far and it still works super well) The main problem would be if u recieved a faulty product however, that's where the complaints usually come from. Wacom support is apparently quite bad, and they might replace ur device with an even worse one or refurbished etc which is quite unfair. Or mishandling the device and it getting scratched.
I love the touch features of the 12.9 iPad Pro. I am wondering if the Wacom 16 pro is as responsive meaning the touch mode as the iPad Pro I have gotten so used to being able to pinch and zoom on the iPad Pro but I want a larger surface. I have the 22 HD, but truly miss that touch feature when I’m drawing on it.
I just purchased this model it has not arrived yet. I love your review but not sure it convinced me to go with the 3rd party models which I did consider. One of the big selling points for me is the VESA mount which the others do not have and of course the Pro Pen 2 and behind the screen buttons. I am hoping this will be the same experience as the Cintiq Pro 24 I own (it takes up way too much space) in a smaller package. Thanks for the review Brad!
As a reviewer, you can demand 'better screens'. As someone who makes $15-20k on a 2 week project, I say Wacom's screens have always been perfect. What I create and what you see on THAT screen, get's printed on a billboard and all colours remain 100%. Think about the use of that product - it isn't just to look at.
Hi Brad, I recently bought Huion HS610 graphic tablet and it's been quite challenging to draw on it, I can draw quite decent on pen and paper, can you suggest some tips on how to get the hand eye coordination? I tried tracing some photos, but when I tried making without tracing, I just well suck lol. Can u give some tips?
Yeah, it takes some getting used to. I guess the best tip is keep going because you will get better. A less cookie cutter answer: make use of shortcut keys and declutter the UI. Assign navigation (pan, zoom, rotate) to shortcuts + pen so they feel intuitive / second nature. Hide the less useful UI menus and toolbar so you get the maximum drawing area and make it look more like drawing on paper
Love the videos! I am curious, because you do the pen displays and the tablets separate I’m curious which are better. I know that’s a loaded question considering the software differences, I guess I’m just curious how the holistic experiences compare between drawing on them
I don't do graphics/media work, but I was thinking that a pen and screen might replace my laptop and mouse for work I do on charting - (lines, levels, measurements) - would this Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 be overkill? Is there another solution or would this be a nice tool to use?
I had the previous cintiq pro 16 is this using the same display? When I apply pressure on the screen it creates a well blooming effect around the pen tip and is there a glow around the edge of the display? My previous cintiq pro 16 had all these issues please talk more about what they changed.
Really disappointed about the display quality at this price. I mean, it's 2022 for one thing, and this above all other types of displays really needs to be good quality. You're drawing/painting right on the thing. I have a Mobilestudio Pro 16 and it has the same problem but at least it's a few years old now. No excuse now with even cheap laptops and tablets having better quality displays. I'll just continue to use my MSP as a Cintiq. One day someone is going to seriously outperform Wacom in quality and give us something we deserve, and at the same or lower price. Can't wait for that day.
I'd been a Wacom diehard for some years. Though I'm still a fan, there's things about the company that makes me less of a diehard, such as their sometimes lackluster customer support or their $100 pens that have crumbled on me numerous times throughout the years. They've been too comfortable for too long. But I really do wonder if they're starting to sweat in their collars.....because they should be sweating. Competitors are catching up at increasing momentum, which should shake Wacom's complacency.
I was going to say you could get 5 Huion tablets for this price. But it's 4k, which is nice for this size of tablet. It's also touch, something Huion REALLY needs to add. Still not sure it's worth $1500, given Huion has a non touch version of this for ~$800. (Though after moving to a Samsung galaxy tab S7+ I just can't go back to a non touch display. My poor Huion Kamvas pro 16 has been sitting now for almost a year). AND for those that want to claim Wacom has better software, just visit the Wacom subreddit. TONS of complaints of driver and software issues. If I'm going to pay twice of what their competitors have, they better be at least twice as good.
i use a ipad pro at the moment to draw motifs for patterns than i transfer it to my pc so i wanted to get maybe this or a huion so i can start draw on my pc when i want to, i have a intuos pro and love it but always wanted a screened one, i dont use the express keys much yet
I think the pen is almost the most important part of the tablets, Huion is still far behind and XP pen is still having problems as you said in the videos of the new models, I don't think they will release cheaper models until Huion or XP pen reach in terms of pens quality
Hey Brad - thanks for the review - I bought this tablet recently and before I did I was wondering why you hadn't reviewed it yet! I use the tablet with a fairly high spec 2020 iMac. But I have lag issues using big brushes in Krita, CSP, and Painter - It's such an issue they're almost unusable. Did you notice this issue?
That’s nothing to do with the Wacom. It’s brush spacing and hardware. The tablet doesn’t care how big your brush is. Its job is simply to move the cursor.
lag issues with bigger brushes is normal, at least in my experience, and i don't think it has much to do with the tablet. i have 3 different drawing tablets, all 3 of them vary in quality and price, and its happened with all of them in krita and csp (i don't have painter, so i haven't tried it on there). since I'm not really the biggest tech guy I'm not sure what the reason could be other then maybe the programs themselves
have you found a monitor arm for this? i don't want to use a stand, and all the arms i've found are either for heavier/bigger pads, or are like $400 canadian which I am not paying lol
Genuine question- is this actually worth it considering you can attach a new iPad pro or Samsung ultra to a PC/Macbook and are portable? I was wondering how Wacom would evolve with this generation seeing as everyone else seems to have surpassed them in many other areas
For the iPad/Mac combo you have AstroPad and whatever derivative they offer for Apple products and for Tabs/PC you have Superdisplay which is like $10 on the Google Store. Like the other user said Sidecar isn't made for precise drawing but I'd argue why do you need that when you can already do most of your linework and coloring in Procreate and transfer your file to PC Photoshop for some final touches and there's always the Wacom Intuos for that.
@@frieren848 and he have even with Windows, Easy Canvas normal and pro. I'm surprised at how many people doesn't know about it, even years after launch 😶
@@alejandroromito Right! There's also Easy Canvas for iPad/PC combo and afaik AstroPad also released a Windows beta not too long ago so everyone should look forward to that as well
@@frieren848 I bought those apps, Astropad, Easy Canvas and Duet screen pro with the subscription for Apple Pencil support. They aren’t very good either. Easy canvas seems best, but still not good enough. As to why would you want it? Sadly some work apps like TVpaint (it exists on android), toon boom products and full Adobe suite aren’t available on iOS. And if you already have a 12.9” iPad, buying a 13” screen tablet for those apps feels wasteful. If you work for yourself and you just have to add a final product to someone, than iPad apps work fine, but if you need to integrate your workflow to other companies, you need desktop apps.
They are both good, but the Wacom can use way more professional apps then the iPad as it’s limited to who makes it for them. A lot of adobe apps suck on iPad right now, even tho it has the m1 and can run it fine.
@@GrimAbstract eh in some sense you’re right but it’s much more nuanced than that, if it’s for 2d drawing I’ll still go the iPad, there’s more art software than just adobe(lol) and I find Artstudio pro to be perfect for professional work, if you need to do your brush blender etc sure it’s a no brainer
@@GrimAbstract no, I meant that there are some apps that let you use the ipad as a graphics tablet and connect it to a computer just like this tablet. So I want to see how good the experience would be
@@himoplayer1959 oh in that case I would not recommend it. The iPad is a good standalone device, I wouldn’t use it as a second monitor/ drawing monitor. There are videos comparing the two, but the Wacom usually always wins.
@@wandrinsheep you aren’t wrong, but in a professional office setting, adobe is usually always the applications they require. For free lance work, sure use whatever app you like the most.
I am left-handed. I don't think I can use the express keys as the cables seem to run from the top. Brad, please include a section for left-handed people too in your videos
Basically Wacom realised they were losing ground and just released a product to remind people that they still exist. Just in time for that production lifecycle timer (cos I imagine artists don't need to replace the tablets more often than 4-5 years?)
I Bought the cintiq 22 HD, I really hope they don't release anything new and a little bit better, because i'll be really sad. 16 inches is just really small for 3d work and 4k doesn't really make much of a difference for a 16 inch display. I just ish my 22 HD was QHD or something. Didn't want to go with other brands because i've heard they have awful support, which is a huge nono for me. Great review! thanks!!!
Not that whole 'no plastic package' means anything anyway, but did you guys noticed that cables are still wrapped with classic plastic-metal strips? Thats about it with environmental concern of Wacom company.
What I think it comes down to now, where the next generation of pen displays will have ro focus the bulk of their innovative energy is in improving on pen lag. Since Huion's 16" tablet is also fully laminated, has 4K resolution and the same preasure sensitivity this is the hill they will need to be willing to die upon. Pen lag seem to be the thing that will make or break it for me personally. Ipad Pro has no pen lag at all as far as I can see in review videos and demonstrations and it supports 120Hz, while both Wacom, Huion (and I belive Xp Pen as well) only supports 60Hz and the pen lag is noticable on their products. I can undestand this when it comes to Xp Pen and Huion since they haven't been in this game for that long and they both try to appeal to a more average market, but Wacom, come on! They definitely should have gotten further when it comes to pen lag, especially considering the price tags on their displays 😬
i got very frustrated with the remote on my cintiq. it just stopped working. wacom insisted on a whole load of codes proof of purchase, trying the screen out with other computers, when i had tracked the problem down to just the Bluetooth dongle, which is a fraction of a cost. but they refused to send me a new one without me sending at my expense the whole remote back, and providing loads of information and so on. considering other companies just sort out the issue, no quibble, I have been very disappointed. i really want a remote, but don't know which to get. certainly not wacom. and i would love to have the buttons on the machine, hardwired in
Man... We need an Apple Pencil with hover cursor. One can dream! It's tough watching these knowing that these companies are still releasing products with LCD at 60hz.
@@ocadyen7044 Sorry, you are right, IPS is better than LCD. My mistake there. But the second part is a really, really hard argue. I'm as much a Wacom fan as anyone, but Apple is just destroying the playing field with display tech. Wacom needs to adopt mini-LED and ramp up the refresh rate to help with response time.
I had a huge problem with my cintiq pro 32, thousands of stuck pixels appeared on the screen after a year. I could replace it on Amazon for a brand new one but a bunch of dead pixels were on the screen since the first day. Does this new version still have that issue? I hardly recommend buying anything from wacom since I had this problem but it's true that are the best pen displays... I also have a cintiq pro 13 that works perfectly fine since 2017, so I don't know if this issue is exclusively from those cintiq pro and this one doesn't have it.
Does anyone know if there are any non-online shops in Ireland that you can buy a Wacom Cintiq Tablet that displays the PC screen and comes with a pen? I tried to order it online and I explained every single problem with my bank and tried to resolve it as much but the bloody bank kept repeating itself with useless information that doesn't help at all.
Okay I would like something like this but 10 inches with almost no bezel. I'm not an iPad guy but I'm not sure there is a good windows tab like that without being expensive. I would not mind android they just need better art apps.
I don't have this issue on my Cintiq and none of my coworkers do either.... I suspect either there is a weird setting somewhere or his pen is defective.
I have this its awesome only I wish I got the Mobil pro version because I don't have a designated area to work digitally so every time I want to use it I have to take out my computer then hook it up. It's a pain sometimes so I stick with my tab s7 plus.
Awesome Review. I think I'll stick with my current model (previous version of this) for now. Will you by chance review the new ROG Flow Z13 (aka Surface Pro 8 on steroids)?
Thank you for the review. I do have a question. My daughter will be graduating from a BFA program at a Cal State school here in California in the near future and she is majoring in Post Production Character Design / Story Boarding. For a student preparing to enter the workforce of animation, even maybe some freelance work, which Cintiq would you recommend that could suffice the workload from possibly working from home if needed yet not sacrificing the quality that some studios would be expecting? Not really looking to buy a low-end model only having to upgrade later down the road because the low-end model just didn't get the job done. Thank you again!
A larger sized screen than this one is important. We 24 and 27" where I work. She doesn't need the very best for storyboarding (quick black and white loose sketches), but for colour work and precise drawing then I think Wacom is the way to go.
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I don't know why I'm so hyped for these reviews, while I have about 20 dollars in my bank account.
Dont worry bro one day it will be all fine i also have just ₹7 in my account btw 1doller is qual to ₹75-80
Just keep grinding one day we will all be their ☺️
I have 23
i know the feel
Get an old bamboo
when I got my first 2000$ audio mixer on layaway I bought a giant bag of rice I ate for eight months
what I found never mentioned in any pen tablet reviews that, wacom default pen pressure configuration set to ignore the initial 5% pressure detection (which most people won't notice), which is important for me that draw lightly, and keep switching between drawing with pencil and digital. I have a wacom intuos pro and huion kamvas 22, the lack of light pressure sensitivity on huion pen is especially more noticeable after I just got back from drawing with pencil on paper. Now I swtiched back to draw with my wacom intuos pro for digital art because that 5% is a big deal for me
This is where Wacom is better. I am also a light-handed artist, and that low actuation makes a big difference. Most artists I've met scrap their tablets while drawing so it this doesn't matter. However, I'm someone who doesn't do that and because of that the other brands still feel worse to me. I also hardly replace my nibs, some of these artists on RUclips straight up say they replace their nibs every 6 months lmao. I bet if I sat next to them, I'd hear a knife scraping their tablet.
Thank you for pointing this out, I draw lightly too and been wondering what's going on with my wacom now I know where the issue lies.
I own two Huions and also a cintiq pro 24. The Wacom cursor doesn’t lag. I notice it on my Huion tablets. That kills the natural draw feeling imho. That one thing alone is worth the extra $600
I can confirm this applies to XP-pen too, when drawing lightly it doesn't register. Im back using Intuos pro too
Definitely would expect a mini LED level display for this price, glad you pointed this out in your review.
The review was more positive than I would expect given the issues shown. Those tapers are ugly. Someone needs to make a device that performs like the iPad, but on desktop, and put 3 (not two, 3) macro keys on the pen. The only thing holding iPad back is that you can’t run the same software. That’s it.
@Haruka Matata I work in studio operations for a medium sized studio that works on AAA games (30+ artists). We've tried all of the cheaper brands and products featured on this channel and after 1000+ hours of usage, ALL of our artists say Wacom and Apple products are definitely superior in terms of reliability, consistency and compatibility with all of the professional applications we use. It's not some random bias some people have.
@Haruka Matata Nah, he generally reviews and points problems in all of them, be it Xp-Pen, Huion, Wacom, if is cables, response, gamma, color , etc. He makes very clear while you are paying premium for Wacom pen and is fairly good, still the difference on Price is not justified.
Maybe you expect Someone like Aaron Rutten, that reviews every Wacom like is his favorite Toy or something, and is the best thing since sliced bread, never complains about price, and if he reviews" something else", he starts "why u no Wacom".. + avoids anyone commenting on his videos for 'personal reasons'. His channel is what Transformers movies are to the Toys.
Nowadays tablets are getting very close specially since Wacom EMR patent reached its end, and sine Wacom Quality has been having some problem lately. That's why they have been releasing "budget" graphic tablets on recent years.
@Paul those taper issues are a total non-issue in practice. You have to learn how to use this tool, just like any other. In fact, I don't see this taper issue at all on my Cintiq Pro 16, so I think everyone is making WAY to much of a big deal about it.
Outside of the brand, it will be interesting if it really makes them "new generation". Watched the review, I think they need innovation. I don't know what that is in the tablet display game BUT if its not a jump in specs then I wouldn't suggest buying this over less expensive alternatives.
I believe that 16" is a perfect size considering portability. Nowadays it's possible to make your design studio anywhere, considering the pandemic made remote work grow, and me and many of my designer collegues moved from having dedicated set-ups to only few portable strategic design tools. That being said, price comes at hand, because technology is made more affordable by the competitors, meaning that high-end tools are now more accessible than 5 or 6 years ago. Having more options is really good when it comes to know where you want your work to be developed and how much can you invest to have it.
Now, I believe the next steps these companies have to consider is the refinement of the already stablished platforms, and the rise of the tablets/3-stage-laptops. This refinement should also come with dedicated/native software development for the creators to have a more swift workflow. And finally, it will come at some price bump, but a justifiable one.
I feel like Huion, XP-Pen and the like are letting Wacom get away with stagnating in their top spot. None of them (to my knowledge) have yet developed a screen tablet with touch, which personally is a deal-breaker. If Wacom's the only place to get touch capability, then they're the only option for someone who's used to navigating that way, and $1500 is the entry price point. Really rough stuff that makes standalone tablets like the Galaxy lineup and iPad seem much more feasible, but then they come with their own limitations...
I'd love 16:10 aspect ratio as well as using OLED or microLED - the fact that this price point doesn't by default make it the most fantastic, rock-solid screen on your setup is something Wacom needs to seriously consider. But nobody else is competing with better visual fidelity, so they stick with 'good'.
I really want to see 120 HZ refresh rate or higher. I know it's mostly a gaming display thing, but even those aforementioned standalone tablets (including ones with Wacom tech!) are pushing 120 frames per second and it feels absolutely dreamy to draw at a higher refresh rate like that.
This seems like a decent improvement over the Pro 16 that I have, but nowhere near a worthy 'upgrade'. Wacom just seems content to make minor refreshes when these products feel like they're outdated the very month they came out.
@@MaskedMammal I think your mention of standalone tablets warrant more attention. I'm on the Tab S7 with its OLED screen at 120 Hz. With the help of a 3rd party app (Superdisplay), it's practically a 12.4 inch Cintique. And its pen is Wacom tech. Now with the release of the Tab S8 Ultra, we practically have a 14 inch 16:10 OLED Cintique. Having huger screen real estate (16, 24, etc) is wonderful, I'm sure, but honestly, I'm having a great time on the 12.4" display. And upgrading to S8 Ultra's 14" screen will be a perfect sweet spot in terms of user experience and price to value ratio.
@@trenton9 That's a great tip, actually! I'll have to try that out, myself. I snagged a Tab S7 for doing art while away from home ($150 brand new, if you can believe it) and it's a fantastic screen, really responsive. If I can just use it like my Cintiq then the only thing it's missing is the nicer Pro Pen.
@@MaskedMammal adding touch capability is nothing but pointless price increase. Having dedicated KBs, macropads, controllers,... next to your screen tablet enables you stylus tip to be full-time dedicated to the screen/canvas. It always been a thing, you dont use desktop programs on desktop setup like you do with mobile tablet devices like Ipad. Wacom knows that too for years, that why they still have a dedicated physical button on top of their tablets to disable Touch feature.
I think the most exciting thing about a new Wacom launch is actually used/open-box models dropping in price. When they last updated the Cintiq 22, the price stayed at £869.99, but I managed to score a last gen 22HD for £500. The most exciting thing about a new product is getting the last generation product (which is more than good enough, I love my 22HD) for a great price.
That’s a good point; since the tech doesn’t change as much (it’s already been “good enough” for years on Wacom), used or refurb devices are a great option.
Like you say in the review. The price bump does not represent a justified equal quality bump. I still have my Wacom 24 but my xpen 15.6 honestly does an amazing job as well. Going to stick with them or Huion going forward unless Wacom earns that price bump again
I've been using the XP Pen Artist 15.6 pro, the one that came out WAYYYY back in 2019 until now, and it's served me very well. I don't care THAT much about screen resolution. I've always wanted this tablet because of the improved drawing experience. That's always been the selling point of Wacom's products. I hope that what's talked about in this review comes down to personal experience because I REALLY want this tablet and I would be disappointed if I spend all that money on a tablet that perfroms just as well as or only marginally better than the one I've been using for the past 2 and a half years. Great review though!
I doubt they will earn that. The competition has become so good and so close to the features that Wacom is offering, that the price bump isn’t justified at all anymore. The new Pro XP-Pen and Huion models are offering more now than the Wacom top of the line. While they may have had lesser quality and features, that’s not the case anymore. If Wacom keeps on releasing subpar products at top prices, they may well loose an even larger chunk of the market.
@@benjamina6915 that would be a shame. Like… you saw the tapering problem Brad mentioned in the video, right? That’s REALLY concerning. I’m PRAYING that it’s a driver problem or that he got a bad unit or something.
@@stormrave5371 it would be. Sometimes I wonder if Wacom realizes they've got real competition now. Hopefully they will and step up their game.
@@stormrave5371 do you think xp pen 15.6 is still good buy today? I want to buy a tablet, but in my country they don't sell the newer version
I love my cintiq 16, the cheap one. I tried the XP pen artist pro 16 last year and was almost perfect except the line wobble. I’m probably just going to wait for the next large Wacom tablet.
Friendly reminder they did release a new 27 inch tablet 😂 but the cost
Lol. The "cheap" one.
As a longtime Wacom user I always felt that the brand is somehow losing touch (no pun intended...) in relation to their leader status in this niche market. They're not alone in the game and have to face further competition with multipurpose devices such as tablets. So what the traditional Wacom user should expect? A better designed tool, improved and exclusive features, a redesigned driver, even a more competitive pricing. Did we get it? Well, no. Wacom really has to up their game - six years to "update" a model is too long, and with very few added functionality is hard to keep recommending it as a tool. Still good but not good enough...
*losing
@Paul And ditch the IPS, add 120 Hz panels, maybe add 3D hardware LUTs. Make them lighter, get rid of the bezels. Better remotes etc. There's so much to make these devices better and to stand out from the competition. Especially for the price we are paying.
@Paul Lol it makes you a pro if you spend 2000 $ for an extension of your display that is bulky with bunch of cables, that it doesn't even give you the quality in all terms for that money, that is just lol, you are a pure capitalism consumer then
Completely agree with you
As someone who owns the original 21UX since 2010 and a Companion since 2014 - one doesn't need updated models. 21UX was $7k and paid itself off that same week, Companion made me hundreds of thousands in jobs. Real professionals don't need the latest tech and gadgets, and Cintiqs are incredible and no one does a better job than Wacom. Why would you need a modem each year?
Interesting to see a review of this, given that I have its direct predecessor, the 2016 Cintiq Pro 16, that I bought in 2017. I do most of my digital drawing on my iPad nowadays, but I do occasionally use the Wacom for Photoshop and Magma Studio (the latter being a browser-based collaborative drawing app). The built-in ExpressKeys do look like a major step up from the old model (where I have an awkward double-dongle sticking out the side to use the ExpressKey remote), but overall I think I'm going to stick with my current Wacom tablet. (especially since I need a new iPad more, fingers crossed for a new iPad Pro in tomorrow's keynote)
I'm waiting for iPad Pro to get launch tomorrow
I don’t see them updating the M1 iPad now. The pros usually get an 18 month update cycle. So that would have the update at an October event earliest. Seeing the spec jump it made from the 2020 version, I wouldn’t put it past Apple to update it in 2023.
They will launch the new Air. Probably give it the A15 chip and lift the RAM to 6gb.
If you want an iPad Pro get it now. The performance is amazing. And even if there is a new one coming in October, it will take 6 months for the apps to properly optimise for it. I have the M1 iPad I bought on launch. Procreate would only recognise it as an entry level iPad and I barely had layers on it. The fix took a month so it could match the 6gb RAM iPad Pro, and it wasn’t until several months later it could access my 16gb of RAM (it actually just recognises 12, but it’s an improvement).
I had a Cintiq pro 16 for half a year in 2017 before selling it, what an utter POS! 4k didnt work without a mac so you got blurry 1440p, ran so hot it was like resting your hand on a hot plate, that awful cooling fan whined like a mini banshee; and the touch and palm rejection was unreliable.
Liked the fact it had a laminated screen before any of the Chinese tablets though, but that was the tablet that had me swear off Wacom after using Intuos since i was a kid, and long using a 12wx, 13hd and 22hd. The nicer Wacoms are not built for real work anymore, they are built like apple products, delicate and compromised.
I am in the same situation. i prefere working on my Ipad pro (10") than on my Cintiq Pro 16" first gen. since several years. I just grab the Wacom device when i have to make some work on softwares that don't exist on tehe Ipad, and it's always a pain in compared ergonomics...
@@anasevi9456 what a bunch of bullshit! That tablet doesn't overheat and the fan noise is not loud at all, what are you talking about? Also, you can get 4K with a PC, you have no idea what you're talking about Just because you have no idea how to setup your tablet, doesn't mean it's not possible. If you say other brands are better, you must be out of your mind and don't appreciate quality
I have this and honestly, loved the pen performance. I noticed the taper issue as well in CSP, but it doesn't bother me as it only happens in quick strokes (also I think turning off stabilization by speed reduce the issue a bit). But personally, jitter is more important to me and this basically has none of it.
Display is decent and seems to be color accurate, but Wacom can definitely do better at this price point. I don't mind the IPS tech, but the main problem is my unit suffer from backlight bleeding in one part of the screen, which can be a bit distracting when viewing dark content. That said, I like the textured surface and surprisingly, the multi-touch is pretty great and I personally never see any issue with palm rejection.
For something at this price point, there BETTER NOT be any jitter!! 🤣
Hey there! I've had a Cintiq 22HD since 2012, but I really need to downgrade size for my personal comfort. Now... seeing a lot of reviews, I notice a trend of disappointment and a LOT of issues with the Cintiq 16 models, especially the newer 2021 Pro 16. It's making me question my decision to go for one, even though it really would be the best option for me. I've heard that despite many improvements, the XP-PEN similar sized tablets have a lot of issues with longevity (many people seeing their pen displays fail after 1.5-ish years). How has your Cintiq Pro 16 experience been? Would you still recommend it? I'm so torn!
@@zerasuprime aside of the backlight bleeding (noticable only in dark scene), this has been a joy to use personally. For drawing, it's as good as it can be I think. I bought a Pro Pen Slim and I prefer that than the standard Pro Pen, as it's lighter and feels more like a normal pen/pencil.
I also get the additional vesa stand for Cintiq 16, which works with this model too. There's plenty of angle adjustment with it and I think it's essential. If you can swallow the cost of both the display and stand, there doesn't seem to be a better option on the market right now.
@@jeffriart Thanks, pal :) I appreciate the reply. I'll definitely be considering it for the near future!
In a dream world, I’d love for apple to refresh the Pro Display XDR with the new mini leds and pen support of the iPad Pro to make just the ultimate professional drawing display. Something like the surface studio seemed like the dream large format drawing tablet, so if someone can capture that in a standalone display with good pen support, it would really disrupt wacoms hold on the professional side of this space.
That would be so cool!
@@thebradcolbow hello
Big fan
of urs
@@thebradcolbow well after Apple adding their M1 chip to the latest iPad Air today you may only have to wait to the later part of this year to get that dream iPad Pro 🤯
@@yourfriendrich the iPad pro already had M1 though right? Theres now just slightly less distinguishing the 11" models.
The dream iPad pro really needs Mac app support or apple to finally bring things like FCPX or logic to ipadOS
It's a good day when Brad uploads :)
I find that the 16" is the best average size. I have the original Wacom 16" Cintiq. But I got it for $800. I would not pay more for it, Especially seeing that a 12.9" iPad Pro provides more options for the price of the new Cintiq version. I think Wacom can do better price wise.
Exactly this. An ipad pro has a 120hz screen that looks better, it has better palm rejection and it's a full blown computer.
@@Owsiris. Ease up on the claims. Ipads aren't full blown computers. IOS is a tablet OS, not a computer OS.
@@kalel33 Current gen tablets is quite 'literally' full blown computers. With some boasting more power than some laptops on the market.
OS is all up to preference, but for most people, current tablets can do everything desktops and laptops can do.
In the case of M1 tablets, perhaps faster (which is kinda nuts tbh)
@@radiospines It's still a tablet OS, which is handicapped by programs you can run...which was my entire point. That's not even counting on storage space. If it's a computer replacement and tablet then you'd want at least 1TB of storage space. That relegates you to the IPad Pro M1, which is $1800. I don't even have a laptop any longer but I do own a tablet and a desktop computer, with no tablet being able to replace my desktop....M1 chip or not.
The iPad is great.... until you need to draw in a program that isn't on iOS... like every professional VFX, and Animation program. Even Photoshop on the mac is lightyears ahead of the iOS version.
I think the Huion Kamvas 16 4k Pro is coming in at $829 now. I was waiting for this and the HK 2.5K Pro reviews. Thank you for the great info
I purchased the huion 16 4k pro and it’s amazing. I have the older version of the Wacom cintiq pro 16 and I think the Huion is much better. You can also connect the Huion with a usb c to usb c cable.
In what ways better, please?
Works perfectly
Touch is smooth
Palm rejection excellent
Loving this thing
There used to be a time when Wacom was the only game in town for reliable (and expensive) pen displays and many of us forked out hard cash for them, but that ship in all honesty sailed a long time ago. If I want to experience sick precision and natural drawing off a display tablet, nothing yet comes close, in my experience, to the iPad Pro/Pencil 2 combo. And when I want to go bigger I use a 24” XP-PEN Artist Pro display with plenty of express keys + jog wheels that is about half the cost of this Wacom and has worked great for me so far. I don’t feel that I need anything else on this respect for now. Speaking from my own experience, for what it’s worth.
With a higher resolution, you would need a larger screen as a smaller screen compresses the pixels which can create compact and splotchy strokes. I think the 24 inch version allows the 4K pixels to spread out more evenly.
I've been waiting to see an updated version of the 16" and man Wacom really is getting lazy and greedy. I'm glad I got a Huion for 3 times less. Also recently got an iPad Air for work on the go and both of those combined are still cheaper than this. The iPad even has a better display.
Of course the iPad has a better display it's from 2022, but that display is way smaller, if it were of the wacom's size, you would be playing significantly more. Don't tell me you can do the same work better on an iPad than on a significantly larger display which was built for drawing
@@ocadyen7044 The Air model I got was originally released in 2020... My old Wacom was a 12 inch so the air isnt too much different 10" and the Pros are 13 I believe. So yeah I am able to get the same work done on it as my Huion. Alot of digital artists are using iPads for illustration thanks to Procreate.
2:09 you don't want amoled on a pro device unless you've got enough business to justify replacing it yearly.
Burn in is not good.
500 cd/cm2 2560x1600 IPS would be my preferred option.
As a child I always wanted one of these :) still don’t have one but I realize it’s for the best as I never took art seriousl
well you could just get an xp pen or huion for half the price! same quality feel
Great Review! I've been looking at a Wacom for a while but compared to the drawing experience in Procreate on the Ipad Pro 12.9, its a hard leap to make. Man, wish Apple would give us a 17 inch iPad Pro!
I've seen more and more people wishing for a extra large iPad recently. I wasn't sure the demand would be there but I could be wrong.
Rumor has it they have been working on a 15in iPad screen in one of their factories so there is hope! I would pay a hefty price for a 15in iPad Pro
Do you people use or find usable Apple's Sidecar for using your iPad as a drawing tablet in Photoshop o Illustrator? I've been debating if this is a reasonable option and most videos on this topic are pretty outdated. I would appreciate if you share your experience :)
@@juancarlosg.zuniga1410 it's still worse than huion/xp pen
@@juancarlosg.zuniga1410 You can use AstroPad and whatever other derivative they offer for iPad/MacOS if what you need is precision drawing on MacOS. That being said ...iPad Pros + Procreate should let you do 95% of work already. A lot of Japanese artists work this way. They either do their linework, inking, etc traditionally or on Procreate and then scan or transfer over to CSP/PS for anything that can only be done on the PC, but precision isn't needed there so regular Intuos tablets are very common.
"This is touch enabled..." which is how they justify charging $400 extra for it somehow. I'm also disappointed but not surprised that the display is just... standard. For what wacom charges, this thing should be a MicroLED screen with a 120Hz display. Hopefully one day soon, Xense labs or one of wacoms other competitors will finally force them to be competitive.
oh yeah, cause those things are so cheap at this size, right? What the heck is so special about those Chinese knock offs? How cares they updated the panel if the brightness is 220 cd/m? Who wants that shitty luminosity on their screen? You clearly are not tech savvy, otherwise you woudln't spew stuff like that
@@ocadyen7044 not very happy are you ? maybe spend more time drawing than plastering comments with so much negativity…..
@@ocadyen7044 not very happy are you ? maybe spend more time drawing than plastering comments with so much negativity…..
@@spycedezynuk I don't like BS, so I speak my mind. Just cause it looks like negative comments to you doesn't make it ess true Maybe know what you;re talking about, before posting PS: I am very very happy, don't worry about me
@@ocadyen7044 yet you come back 7days later 😂😂 your negative comments are all over this thread that’s a fact
I don’t understand why Wacom changed the pen holder design. I loved the old one on my intuous tablet, it was perfect. I invested in the cintiq 24 when It came out and the holder really surprised me. It’s less intuitive and I managed to lose a nib because I didn’t realise it wasn’t completely closed one time.
It does look more modern but the old one worked better imo.
Couldn't agree more. Is one those cases of redesigning just for te sake of it. Tried and tested products should be slightly improved not radically changed and with no added functionality.
agree! I just use the old pen holder instead
It was changed because of user input, I believe
Comparing this one with the huion Kamvas pro 16, which one is better?
You finally reviewed the cintiq pro 16!!!
Bought this model a week ago and have already returned, I'm very pissed because I had very similar issues to some reports over at Reddit and my country's Amazon reviews:
- The box itself doesn't have any interior foam or additional protection, so the only thing protecting your tablet against shipping is ONE thick box layer.
- The chasis came bent in the top right part of the device, almost as if the plastic wasn't glued properly to the glass
- One of my fans wasn't working properly compared to the other one, the noise was lower and the wind felt weaker, consequently that side of my screen was much hotter than the other one.
- Either way the unit was getting HOT, not burning hot but definitely uncomfortable hot.
- The express keys on the left side were squeaky and not properly in place.
When I pay $1500 i.e. Apple levels of money I expect an Apple level product, this was a horrible experience and I'll probably never buy a Cintiq again.
Was the return process easy? I just ordered one and I’m definitely going to test it hardcore as soon as it arrives, especially with what everyone’s saying
don't buy tech on Amazon. lol
Seems like I'll be sticking with the Huion line.
Small feedback idea, if you are up for it: when you showed the tablet screen next to your laptop to compare colors, it would have been extremely helpful if both had the same image on them. To see the quality difference clearer. Otherwise, a perfect review, I always get all the info I need from you!
Actually more curious how far behind Huion and or Xp Pen are on Wacom!? Seeing the previous mentioned are refreshing more often. And also what kind of future development do you hope in the Drawing Tablets will get??
the main problem with those brand are the quality control, material, and durability. Yes They are way cheaper than wacom but also easy to break.
@@bsigns1935 Wacom also suffers from this. Check their subreddit. The days of Wacom being higher quality are long gone. You today are just paying for the name.
I didn't see any videos on the wacom bambo vs. remarkable would you suggest one over the other for general note taking? I watched your video on the remarkable one just trying to figure out which one is best...
IPS is more color accurate from what I know which is better for artists.
Huion for the win in value-for-money, and in performance-for-money. Kudos to Huion for delivering a natural taper to drawn lines.
Which Huion would be comparable to the 16?
@@painter4lifenyc909huion kamvas 16 (2021)
Is the pro worth the extra vs a Cintiq 16 reg?
I have a habit of zooming and out when I am drawing using touch gesture instead of keyboard shortcuts. Do you think having a bigger screen mitigate that? Just drawing on bigger screen?
Imagine if huion or xp pen come out with the world’s first mini led drawing tablet before wacom
that would be pog RIP WACOM
Hello, Brad Colbow. I like your review of the products and got interested in getting a tablet but I'm new to drawing on a digital display and havent used one before, but I wanted to try it out which tablet do you recomend? I was looking at the Huion Kamvas Pro 13 and the Wacom One.
he made a smackdown video comparing the wacom one and the huion kamvas 13 (regular ver. not pro i believe) last year if that helps
here's the link:
ruclips.net/video/vP_-kE0b8WE/видео.html&ab_channel=BradColbow
@@panickedshears Thanks, yeah I saw it I'm leaning more to wards the Huion kamvas 13 now but they just released the pro with a 2.5k screen so I'm unsure again between the 13 and the new 13 pro. Thanks again for the link to his video.
Maybe I'm just misremembering (to coin a phrase), but I recall the old 16" Pro had a lot of technical, product flaws. Let's hope they have ironed those out. Even so, they still need to justify the price in this age of much-improved competition. Of course, that never stopped Apple... ;)
That rings a bell for me too, but I can’t recall if they were software or hardware related. I think the Mobile Studio Pro came out around the same time and also had a number of hardware issues.
In general I want to say Wacom had more QA problems for a few years back there, but other than some driver problems with the new M1 Macs I don’t feel like I’ve noticed as many recently.
The iPad pro is SO absurdly good I can't believe Wacom haven't tried to raise the bar at all. How can the user experience, display quality, pen feel, refresh rate, and palm rejection be so much better on iPad when that is ALL these Wacoms are meant to do. The only thing better about a Wacom is the fact that you can/have to plug it into a computer. I feel like Apple could take Wacom's market share in an instant with a custom tablet of their own. It would be like the PRO XDR coming in and clapping pro level color monitors for a fraction of the price. I'm not even an apple fanboy (just an iPad one lol) but this lack of innovation in the professional space should be laughed out of the room.
Not that I think Apple would do that, but they could start with a bigger iPad pro and work with adobe to get some of their suite on ios. I'm a firm believer that if the software was there, very few people would need more than an ipad with a keyboard these days. Even 3d sculpting is very doable on the ipad, and I don't even have an M1. Software is all we need man.
Agree with most of this but using the Pencil compared with the Wacom is different. It skates on glass which isn't nice.
@@chris60036 True but it is slightly rubberized tbf. I recently upgraded to some hard nibs with a paperlike screen protector and it is insanely nice to draw on.
@@chris60036 a matte screen protector fixes that completely. I feel like Apple Pencil needs proper buttons to be fully functional though, that's one thing I miss from my Wacom pen - double tap on Apple Pencil is hit or miss unfortunately
@@anam00090 Thanks - I’ve tried the paperlike but it didn’t make much difference - scratches easily and is still a hard surface to draw on. I actually went from iPad to Wacom having loved the Pro, Pencil and Procreate. I just love the way it feels on the Wacom. I only wish Procreate was available for my Mac
Completely agree, which is why I'm getting an iPad Pro soon and downgrading to whatever Intuos Pro comes next (the current models are already 5 years old ffs) if anything needs to be retouched on PC. I've heard some rumors on Apple working on a bigger tablet and now that Samsung has released their Ultra it's more likely than ever that we're gonna get a true Wacom competitor by Apple.
currently in the market looking for an upgrade to my intuos. One thing that may genuinely make me go wacom again is the pen, I use two buttons on it and the eraser nib all the time, none of t-e competition have pen with 2 buttons and eraser at 4K and decent colour gamut
Honestly after you use a Wacom pen its hard to use anything else. Even as good as some of the competitors claim to to be (and really they are just copying Wacom), they just feel like using a cheap tablet by comparison. I tried a Huion and after two days returned it because of really bad lag, dropouts on light strokes and parallax problems. It was like switching from a top of the line iPhone to a mid priced Android. I went back to the Cintiq where I have never have to even think of these issues.. Its MILES better for me.
Price is important, of course, but time and stress and a good working experience is more crucial to me.
I recently upgraded from a Cintiq 21UX (2nd generation) to a Cintiq Pro 24. The ExpressKey remote is a severe downgrade. It slides along the empty bezel and I have to plug it in to keep the battery charged. I remember waiting to buy the 21UX until they added features from the Intuos 4. Dual touch strips on the back was nice as I could zoom with my dominant hand and change brush size with the other. Mode toggle in the middle and equal amount of buttons on either side, very easy to customize. The remote is closer to the Intuos 3 design, bunching the buttons up and expecting you to recognize them by feel. Wacom's lineup is confusing (Wacom One, Cintiq, Cintiq Pro with and without touch, etc.) so I understand why they're slowly implementing hardware changes. Imagine if every model only came with touch when they rolled that out or kept the ExpressKeys to the remote. The problem is competition's catching up with things like 4K and brush stabilization. If they want to keep justifying that premium price they have to knock it out of the park, which is very hard for any company to do consistently
I see many of these comments about screen quality, from artists that don't draw for an actual living and use ipad computer tablets.... of course an iPad or other tablet will work perfect and honestly have better screen quality in a lot of ways.
However, If you are a professional artist, graphic designer, animator. Etc.
That needs to use actual professional PC programs and not just free android apps.
WACOM is the top of the top for a quality monitor.
Says a western dude who has a Japanese fetish without knowing jack sh*t about Japan.
Hard agree, drawing experience and ergonomics will be far better on a dedicated device like pen tablets/pen displays.
iPad is just a consumer product that needs a lot of set-up to make it comfy to draw on for longer sessions. The Apple Pencil weight, thinness and skating all over the screen with it's hard plastic nibs are a perfect recipe for hand injuries. Not to mention that iPad needs a stand just so you don't destroy your neck and back but also to prevent any possible hand cramps due to the lack of thick bezels for your hand to rest on when near the edge.
iPads are a trusty art companion, yes, but I don't see anyone working 8 hours a day and still have a body in a good state.
You know what might make the higher price worth it? If Wacom products last longer before breaking down. I don't know if it does. I know I have a huion pro 16 for these last two years and the power button is broken, and the cable randomly cuts out. There's other little random glitches that I didn't notice in the first week of use but became apparent shortly after. Could these issues happen with a Wacom? I don't know. But seems to me it's something a reviewer should consider. Not just specs. Especially a reviewer that cares about packaging and the environment. I don't want to be buying new devices every two years. Can you talk about longevity and reliability?
I’ve seen many artists who report using their Wacom products for years and years - but you can also find users who report having technical problems, either with software and compatibility or hardware breaking down. As always, those with problems will be more vocal and more motivated to air their discontent, so we have no idea what the actual rate of failure is.
In general, my sense is that most Wacom products can remain in service for at least 5 years and often more. However, this is incredibly hard for a reviewer to test at scale in a methodical way, short of running long term user survey panels like Consumer Reports does.
As far as I know, Wacom remains the industry standard, which may tell us more about reliability than any of this anecdotal data - however even that could be due to inertia or accepted wisdom & brand loyalty in the digital art world.
@@AnalogKensho there's always random fails in any product for sure. Differences in use, and abuse etc. But I have been looking at the second hand market for clues. Wacom sees a much lower depreciation in price when getting an item second hand compared to XP pen and huion. You definitely can see more older wacom devices in apparently good working order available for sale. As for reviewers, I think they should be spending a longer period with these products before releasing a review. When they resell or gift them it should be under the condition that they keep in touch and give feedback on issues that crop up. Really the least of all is to at least mention low long the device is might to last.
I've heard from people that they can be quite long lasting!! I've seen someone say they've been using their cintiq for 10 years and that's when they bought it used even haha. (I myself had my Cintiq13HD for 4.5 years so far and it still works super well)
The main problem would be if u recieved a faulty product however, that's where the complaints usually come from. Wacom support is apparently quite bad, and they might replace ur device with an even worse one or refurbished etc which is quite unfair. Or mishandling the device and it getting scratched.
Our studio has literally scores of Cintiqs, many going back over a decade and they are all still going strong.
I own two very old Cintiqs (18SX and 21UX) and they both still work solidly! I hope the newer ones are still made as well.
I love the touch features of the 12.9 iPad Pro. I am wondering if the Wacom 16 pro is as responsive meaning the touch mode as the iPad Pro I have gotten so used to being able to pinch and zoom on the iPad Pro but I want a larger surface. I have the 22 HD, but truly miss that touch feature when I’m drawing on it.
I just purchased this model it has not arrived yet. I love your review but not sure it convinced me to go with the 3rd party models which I did consider. One of the big selling points for me is the VESA mount which the others do not have and of course the Pro Pen 2 and behind the screen buttons. I am hoping this will be the same experience as the Cintiq Pro 24 I own (it takes up way too much space) in a smaller package. Thanks for the review Brad!
Turn off smoothing in the brush settings to get a better taper. Don't know if it was mentioned.
As a reviewer, you can demand 'better screens'. As someone who makes $15-20k on a 2 week project, I say Wacom's screens have always been perfect. What I create and what you see on THAT screen, get's printed on a billboard and all colours remain 100%. Think about the use of that product - it isn't just to look at.
Hey, what’s your instagram
@@v1nigra3 Don't have one, sorry. Posting things on instagram brings no money.
@@PP-ed9cf I would like to learn more about what you do, any way we can chat?
lol weird flex
I had the tapper issue, but doing some system and photoshop updates, reinstall of the wacom drivers helped.
Good to know 👍
Hi Brad, I recently bought Huion HS610 graphic tablet and it's been quite challenging to draw on it, I can draw quite decent on pen and paper, can you suggest some tips on how to get the hand eye coordination? I tried tracing some photos, but when I tried making without tracing, I just well suck lol. Can u give some tips?
I just played osu to get used to things
Yeah, it takes some getting used to. I guess the best tip is keep going because you will get better.
A less cookie cutter answer: make use of shortcut keys and declutter the UI. Assign navigation (pan, zoom, rotate) to shortcuts + pen so they feel intuitive / second nature. Hide the less useful UI menus and toolbar so you get the maximum drawing area and make it look more like drawing on paper
@@the11thhour44 thank you man, I'll try it
Sell it and buy a pen display instead!
Love the videos! I am curious, because you do the pen displays and the tablets separate I’m curious which are better. I know that’s a loaded question considering the software differences, I guess I’m just curious how the holistic experiences compare between drawing on them
I don't do graphics/media work, but I was thinking that a pen and screen might replace my laptop and mouse for work I do on charting - (lines, levels, measurements) - would this Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 be overkill? Is there another solution or would this be a nice tool to use?
I had the previous cintiq pro 16 is this using the same display? When I apply pressure on the screen it creates a well blooming effect around the pen tip and is there a glow around the edge of the display? My previous cintiq pro 16 had all these issues please talk more about what they changed.
Really disappointed about the display quality at this price. I mean, it's 2022 for one thing, and this above all other types of displays really needs to be good quality. You're drawing/painting right on the thing. I have a Mobilestudio Pro 16 and it has the same problem but at least it's a few years old now. No excuse now with even cheap laptops and tablets having better quality displays. I'll just continue to use my MSP as a Cintiq. One day someone is going to seriously outperform Wacom in quality and give us something we deserve, and at the same or lower price. Can't wait for that day.
I'd been a Wacom diehard for some years. Though I'm still a fan, there's things about the company that makes me less of a diehard, such as their sometimes lackluster customer support or their $100 pens that have crumbled on me numerous times throughout the years. They've been too comfortable for too long. But I really do wonder if they're starting to sweat in their collars.....because they should be sweating. Competitors are catching up at increasing momentum, which should shake Wacom's complacency.
Man, can you imagine Super AMOLED 120hz for a graphics display? That's a going to be a game changer...
Samsung ultra exists now
@@alejandroromito I meant on Wacom, XP Pen, Huion, and others more...
I was going to say you could get 5 Huion tablets for this price. But it's 4k, which is nice for this size of tablet. It's also touch, something Huion REALLY needs to add. Still not sure it's worth $1500, given Huion has a non touch version of this for ~$800. (Though after moving to a Samsung galaxy tab S7+ I just can't go back to a non touch display. My poor Huion Kamvas pro 16 has been sitting now for almost a year).
AND for those that want to claim Wacom has better software, just visit the Wacom subreddit. TONS of complaints of driver and software issues. If I'm going to pay twice of what their competitors have, they better be at least twice as good.
Wait, WHAT! $1500 and no glove?
@@harshbarj no adjustable stand either, lmao
Hi
Does the 4k resolution of the Wacom 16 Pro work well on Mac OS? I mean, are the icons and texts clear in the drawing program?
Why are these impossible to find? Was it discontinued?
i use a ipad pro at the moment to draw motifs for patterns than i transfer it to my pc so i wanted to get maybe this or a huion so i can start draw on my pc when i want to, i have a intuos pro and love it but always wanted a screened one, i dont use the express keys much yet
I think the pen is almost the most important part of the tablets, Huion is still far behind and XP pen is still having problems as you said in the videos of the new models, I don't think they will release cheaper models until Huion or XP pen reach in terms of pens quality
Hey Brad - thanks for the review - I bought this tablet recently and before I did I was wondering why you hadn't reviewed it yet! I use the tablet with a fairly high spec 2020 iMac. But I have lag issues using big brushes in Krita, CSP, and Painter - It's such an issue they're almost unusable. Did you notice this issue?
That’s nothing to do with the Wacom. It’s brush spacing and hardware. The tablet doesn’t care how big your brush is. Its job is simply to move the cursor.
lag issues with bigger brushes is normal, at least in my experience, and i don't think it has much to do with the tablet. i have 3 different drawing tablets, all 3 of them vary in quality and price, and its happened with all of them in krita and csp (i don't have painter, so i haven't tried it on there). since I'm not really the biggest tech guy I'm not sure what the reason could be other then maybe the programs themselves
Could you do an in depth comparison of the cintiq pro 17 and cintiq pro 16? Thanks for your helpful content.
8:06 that not only the tabletc manufactures, is Photoshop problem, in other software thats dosent happened.
have you found a monitor arm for this? i don't want to use a stand, and all the arms i've found are either for heavier/bigger pads, or are like $400 canadian which I am not paying lol
Genuine question- is this actually worth it considering you can attach a new iPad pro or Samsung ultra to a PC/Macbook and are portable? I was wondering how Wacom would evolve with this generation seeing as everyone else seems to have surpassed them in many other areas
I have an iPad Pro and sidecar is absolute trash for drawing. The lag and response is useless.
For the iPad/Mac combo you have AstroPad and whatever derivative they offer for Apple products and for Tabs/PC you have Superdisplay which is like $10 on the Google Store.
Like the other user said Sidecar isn't made for precise drawing but I'd argue why do you need that when you can already do most of your linework and coloring in Procreate and transfer your file to PC Photoshop for some final touches and there's always the Wacom Intuos for that.
@@frieren848 and he have even with Windows, Easy Canvas normal and pro. I'm surprised at how many people doesn't know about it, even years after launch 😶
@@alejandroromito Right! There's also Easy Canvas for iPad/PC combo and afaik AstroPad also released a Windows beta not too long ago so everyone should look forward to that as well
@@frieren848 I bought those apps, Astropad, Easy Canvas and Duet screen pro with the subscription for Apple Pencil support. They aren’t very good either. Easy canvas seems best, but still not good enough.
As to why would you want it? Sadly some work apps like TVpaint (it exists on android), toon boom products and full Adobe suite aren’t available on iOS. And if you already have a 12.9” iPad, buying a 13” screen tablet for those apps feels wasteful.
If you work for yourself and you just have to add a final product to someone, than iPad apps work fine, but if you need to integrate your workflow to other companies, you need desktop apps.
Please compare it to using an ipad with apple pencil as a graphics tablet
They are both good, but the Wacom can use way more professional apps then the iPad as it’s limited to who makes it for them. A lot of adobe apps suck on iPad right now, even tho it has the m1 and can run it fine.
@@GrimAbstract eh in some sense you’re right but it’s much more nuanced than that, if it’s for 2d drawing I’ll still go the iPad, there’s more art software than just adobe(lol) and I find Artstudio pro to be perfect for professional work, if you need to do your brush blender etc sure it’s a no brainer
@@GrimAbstract no, I meant that there are some apps that let you use the ipad as a graphics tablet and connect it to a computer just like this tablet. So I want to see how good the experience would be
@@himoplayer1959 oh in that case I would not recommend it. The iPad is a good standalone device, I wouldn’t use it as a second monitor/ drawing monitor. There are videos comparing the two, but the Wacom usually always wins.
@@wandrinsheep you aren’t wrong, but in a professional office setting, adobe is usually always the applications they require. For free lance work, sure use whatever app you like the most.
I am left-handed. I don't think I can use the express keys as the cables seem to run from the top. Brad, please include a section for left-handed people too in your videos
They have the express buttons on the right side also. No need to flip the tablet around.
Basically Wacom realised they were losing ground and just released a product to remind people that they still exist. Just in time for that production lifecycle timer (cos I imagine artists don't need to replace the tablets more often than 4-5 years?)
I Bought the cintiq 22 HD, I really hope they don't release anything new and a little bit better, because i'll be really sad. 16 inches is just really small for 3d work and 4k doesn't really make much of a difference for a 16 inch display.
I just ish my 22 HD was QHD or something.
Didn't want to go with other brands because i've heard they have awful support, which is a huge nono for me. Great review! thanks!!!
Not that whole 'no plastic package' means anything anyway, but did you guys noticed that cables are still wrapped with classic plastic-metal strips? Thats about it with environmental concern of Wacom company.
It makes Green folks feel good about themselves.
What I think it comes down to now, where the next generation of pen displays will have ro focus the bulk of their innovative energy is in improving on pen lag. Since Huion's 16" tablet is also fully laminated, has 4K resolution and the same preasure sensitivity this is the hill they will need to be willing to die upon. Pen lag seem to be the thing that will make or break it for me personally. Ipad Pro has no pen lag at all as far as I can see in review videos and demonstrations and it supports 120Hz, while both Wacom, Huion (and I belive Xp Pen as well) only supports 60Hz and the pen lag is noticable on their products. I can undestand this when it comes to Xp Pen and Huion since they haven't been in this game for that long and they both try to appeal to a more average market, but Wacom, come on! They definitely should have gotten further when it comes to pen lag, especially considering the price tags on their displays 😬
Are you going to review the Mac Studio when it comes out?
What pen display has the best total package in your opinion in 03/2022?
You played me with that drawing glove. my eyes lit up and was ready to dance... why Brad?!
i got very frustrated with the remote on my cintiq. it just stopped working. wacom insisted on a whole load of codes proof of purchase, trying the screen out with other computers, when i had tracked the problem down to just the Bluetooth dongle, which is a fraction of a cost. but they refused to send me a new one without me sending at my expense the whole remote back, and providing loads of information and so on. considering other companies just sort out the issue, no quibble, I have been very disappointed. i really want a remote, but don't know which to get. certainly not wacom. and i would love to have the buttons on the machine, hardwired in
I love the touch on my Wacom but you need a thick drawing glove like the Mazo V2 which is perfect.
Can you rotate the drawing canvas with just fingers? or maybe undo by just tapping two fingers on photoshop ?
Man... We need an Apple Pencil with hover cursor. One can dream! It's tough watching these knowing that these companies are still releasing products with LCD at 60hz.
It's an IPS, not an LCD, get over it, it's tons better Why do you need more than 60hz for drawing anyway ? This isn't a first person shooter game!
@@ocadyen7044 Sorry, you are right, IPS is better than LCD. My mistake there. But the second part is a really, really hard argue. I'm as much a Wacom fan as anyone, but Apple is just destroying the playing field with display tech. Wacom needs to adopt mini-LED and ramp up the refresh rate to help with response time.
Because less lag?
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I got so scared that I almost sh*t my pants omg 😂😂😂
I had a huge problem with my cintiq pro 32, thousands of stuck pixels appeared on the screen after a year. I could replace it on Amazon for a brand new one but a bunch of dead pixels were on the screen since the first day. Does this new version still have that issue? I hardly recommend buying anything from wacom since I had this problem but it's true that are the best pen displays... I also have a cintiq pro 13 that works perfectly fine since 2017, so I don't know if this issue is exclusively from those cintiq pro and this one doesn't have it.
@@DARKINBLADE. wow, I feel so lucky right now, I think wacom has no longer reliable products... What a pity
How does the screen compare to the non pro 16 and an iPad Pro?
Does anyone know if there are any non-online shops in Ireland that you can buy a Wacom Cintiq Tablet that displays the PC screen and comes with a pen? I tried to order it online and I explained every single problem with my bank and tried to resolve it as much but the bloody bank kept repeating itself with useless information that doesn't help at all.
Apple, please make a 15 or 16” iPad Pro with etched glass display!
Good review!
At that price point I was thinking of getting a 12” iPad Pro and just using sidecar, do you think this would be a good option?
Definitely NO. I have tried it and the Cintiq is a much better experience.
In what way?
does it have to be used attached to another computer?
LMAO the drawing glove fail 🧤 😆
I still remember your old animated jokes when you first started the channel haha
Okay I would like something like this but 10 inches with almost no bezel. I'm not an iPad guy but I'm not sure there is a good windows tab like that without being expensive. I would not mind android they just need better art apps.
Are you planning an S22 Ultra review?
Backing up this suggestion 🤞
Has there been a work-around or fix for that taper on PS since this review?
I don't have this issue on my Cintiq and none of my coworkers do either.... I suspect either there is a weird setting somewhere or his pen is defective.
I have this its awesome only I wish I got the Mobil pro version because I don't have a designated area to work digitally so every time I want to use it I have to take out my computer then hook it up. It's a pain sometimes so I stick with my tab s7 plus.
Brad no strait line ruler test for jitter ?
I was really looking forward to the glove dance. Awesome video btw thank you
Perhaps take a look at Light Brush? It's a new painting web app.
Does the touchscreen work fine in mac os?
Awesome Review. I think I'll stick with my current model (previous version of this) for now. Will you by chance review the new ROG Flow Z13 (aka Surface Pro 8 on steroids)?
Brad I need a side-by-side comparison between Cintiq Pro 16 and a wired S8 Ultra with Super Display
If you could get an open box version for $799, would you do it?
yaay! another awesome review ✨✨
I tought wacom suppose to be "the best" how come xp pen and huion look either the same or better in some area :/?
Thank you for the review. I do have a question. My daughter will be graduating from a BFA program at a Cal State school here in California in the near future and she is majoring in Post Production Character Design / Story Boarding. For a student preparing to enter the workforce of animation, even maybe some freelance work, which Cintiq would you recommend that could suffice the workload from possibly working from home if needed yet not sacrificing the quality that some studios would be expecting? Not really looking to buy a low-end model only having to upgrade later down the road because the low-end model just didn't get the job done. Thank you again!
A larger sized screen than this one is important. We 24 and 27" where I work. She doesn't need the very best for storyboarding (quick black and white loose sketches), but for colour work and precise drawing then I think Wacom is the way to go.
Please tell me guys which tablet Is best i will purchase