Your literally the best teacher on RUclips. And I have been on here for years. Bro. Literally. I have mixed for majors and minors and don't really comment or upload but just know...your AMAZING at what you do. Its not new information, its how you break it down! 🙌🏿🙏🏿💯
did you use the compressors on the same channel where the vocals are or did you link it to another mixer channel? btw, i love your videos, I'm learning a lot from them !
I prefer to have the CL1B first as a leveller and then the 1176 after. This way the 1176 is always doing a similar amount of gain reduction and the tone it gives is more uniform.
I always thought the frequency knob at the bottom of the CLA-2A was a Hi-Pass filter kinda thing where its shaving off the lows. Like everything BELOW the number is NOT being compressed. So its actually what's ABOVE the number is NOT being compressed? Ive only been compressing under 50hz of my vocals? 😅😅
Hey jerry how come when i put on a mono compressor on my mono recorded vocals whenever i set the compressor parameters right its fine but as soon as i try to add make up gain the sound goes from one side of the headphones to the other? Is it better to use a stereo compressor on mono vocals seems to not have that issue when i go that route
Great tutorial on stacked compression. I'm using those same (almost) 2 Waves compressors, the CLA 76 Blacky into a CLA 2A sitting in the Waves Studio Rack. Each is gain reducing about 2.5 dB on mine. IMO another great compressor is their PuigChild 670, which I have also. Those 3 have a very unique sound to them, even more when all 3 are stacked. Yes crazy Delta said 3, each doing 2-3 dB reduction.
@@impelskies7715 This puigchild represents the grandfather compressor, the Fairchild, from the '50s or so. It's adding an old analog tube saturation sound as well as compression. 670 versions are stereo and 660 is mono. It can work well to color and compress, which is why I used it, and it seems to do this well. Settings are somewhat different than other comps, in that there's a time constant selector switch, it affects the release. There's a spec chart that describes the different TC settings. I haven't used this comp plugin for a month or so, as I'm trying out other compressors, as for my use case, it might be the culprit of using too much CPU resources on my DAW. Bottom line Puigchild gives a tube and transformer like vibe that is a bit different than most others. I may be incorrect, but I think the Manley Mu is a more modern but similar type of comp. My main reason for differring comp types is color and my perceived compression action differences. My opinion is you'd want to sample it to see if you like its color and comp action, because it may not suit your taste or music.
Nice work… but you didn’t really let a full passage of the dry uncompressed vocal to come through so we could hear a solid before and after, in order to really assess the difference. 👍👍
Hi Jerry, super useful. One thing I don't quite get. When you load the compressors in succession - are these on the actual track itself, or is your compressor chain on an aux and you are sending to it? And if you are sending to an aux, what ratio of dry signal are you sending, and why?
Probably not that really doesn't matter in any way as long as you're not clipping it could be -1 -3 -6 it makes no difference if its too loud turn it down
I heard the CLA 2A is more used for rock songs over rap. So I been using the CLA 76 and R Comp compressor on my rap vocals. What's your thoughts on that combo over using the CLA 2A ?
It doesn’t matter really so much as to what compressor you use, but you want one to have a fast attack setting to control the peaks and one with a slower attack setting to add some smoothness.. the actual compressors you decide to use is a stylistic choice
My opinion: it's not so much which ones specifically you're using, but how you're using them. As Jerry said in his comment, make sure one does a fast attack and the other one slow. The 1176 and LA2A, and emulations of those, naturally give you those fast and slow compressors, but there are others. Some, if settings allow, could be both slow or fast. That's why I said in the beginning it depends on how you're using them.
after the two compressors is that when you would maybe start using paralel compression aswell ? Trying to learn so would be happy to hear some feedback on what is best practice
Parallel Compression would typically be done on its own mixer track so it is processing a duplicate copy of the lead vocal. So it’s not really a part of the lead vocal’s plugin chain if that’s what you’re asking.. but I usually mix the lead vocal and if I still need it to be more upfront in the mix then I will add parallel compression to add thickness. Parallel compression completely squashed the signal so there’s no peaks. That’s why it’s great for blending in with the lead vocal because it won’t really raise the overall peak level of the vocal, which will help you get the track loud at the end during mastering along with many other things across the mix. Hope this helps.
What would you do if you have really dynamic vocals and 8db GR just wouldn't be enough? Say we're talking 15-20db needed. Would you add more 1176s (clean setting, I imagine), or have it clamp down more? Or even split the GR evenly between the 1176 and LA2A (say 10db each)?
Just depends on the song and mix. If you need the vocal to be more upfront, and you want to give it some more power without just turning it up in the mix then parallel compression is perfect for that.
@@mixwithjerry thank you brother love ur new song by the way the words are very touchful... I got a quick question I just started using saturation on my mix where best in my vocals chain should I place my saturation when mixing???
Mono is for single sound sources (like a vocal recorded with one microphone). Stereo is for something recorded with multiple sources to create a left and right channel (like a synth).
RComp with a fast attack (like 2.5 ms is good starting point) and medium to fast release. Then the Rvox right after that. How much you want each compressor is up to you but the RComp is for the peaks and RVox is for overall tone and level.
You didn't really explain why you were using the first compressor in the first place, to what end, why 12 db reduction was even necessary. So it didn't really make sense to suddenly talk about two compressors working in serial because there wasn't any objective reason to do so.
There are other compression tutorials on my page where I explain why and how to compress a vocal. This is a more advanced tutorial. I didn’t want to make this video too long by over-explaining something that most viewers already grasp. Don’t focus on why I have 12 db of gain reduction. That’s just what this particular vocal needed. All vocals are different. The point is that this technique just splits up the workload between 2 compressors instead of one.
ive been mixing for 10 yrs this is the best tutorial ive seen ever
Super-clear instruction in intention/practice. many thanks.
Jerry, your compressor stack explanation/demo is the best articulation I've come across. Thank you! 🙌🏽😏
100% agree.
Great explanation.
His summarizing skills on point
Your literally the best teacher on RUclips. And I have been on here for years. Bro. Literally. I have mixed for majors and minors and don't really comment or upload but just know...your AMAZING at what you do. Its not new information, its how you break it down! 🙌🏿🙏🏿💯
We are very impressed with your teaching methods. Thank you for this tutorial!
Thanks for your clear explanation from the deepest depths of my heart!!!
0:59 CL76
RECIOを4対1。右側のメーターはgain reductionにしておく。ANALOG off 3〜6dB
attack release共にツマミを右にすれば速く左にすれば遅くなる。
最後にoutputツマミで音量調節。
6:05 CLA-2A
右のツマミはGRにしておく。2〜4dB
That's so great. Congrats for the content!
Very good information!
Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏼
This is really dope...Nice one
Great teaching 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Very nice
Thanks man! Been using those compressors for a while… can’t believe I didn’t know about the GR/IN/Out on the 76
VERY WELL EXPLAINED! BRAVO!
BRO YOU ARE THE BEST
did you use the compressors on the same channel where the vocals are or did you link it to another mixer channel? btw, i love your videos, I'm learning a lot from them !
Yes I loaded both compressors on the vocal mixer channel
Damm i love this song soooo much!!! ❤❤❤
whoa, please do a video on the tube tech CL 1b 🙏
GO JERRY GO JERRY LOVE THE INFO AS ALWAYS. KINDLY DO ONE MORE WITH STOCK PLUGINS..
Thanks bro.. I will do some vocal mixing tutorials specifically for FL Studio soon.
I'm looking forward to it and I know all plugins are the same just different display..
@@thabangadikgale461 that isnt always the case but the fruity compressor is actually pretty good
awesome thanks
I use the cl1b it sounds amazing
CLA 76 + CL1B combo is legendary
I prefer to have the CL1B first as a leveller and then the 1176 after.
This way the 1176 is always doing a similar amount of gain reduction and the tone it gives is more uniform.
Great tutorial, wicked helpful. also, I'm not a fan of country music, but whatever song was used in this video is a friggin jam!
Amazing teacher!!
I always thought the frequency knob at the bottom of the CLA-2A was a Hi-Pass filter kinda thing where its shaving off the lows. Like everything BELOW the number is NOT being compressed. So its actually what's ABOVE the number is NOT being compressed? Ive only been compressing under 50hz of my vocals? 😅😅
Same lol
Wow great Video! Thank you! 😄 👍🏻
Great tutorial man, in other news though we're can I find the full song 😇
Hey jerry how come when i put on a mono compressor on my mono recorded vocals whenever i set the compressor parameters right its fine but as soon as i try to add make up gain the sound goes from one side of the headphones to the other? Is it better to use a stereo compressor on mono vocals seems to not have that issue when i go that route
thanks a lot.
great👌👌👌
thank u for explaining the cla combo
This was super helpful thanks!
Great vid, appreciate you!
Bro that’s fireee
Jerry: in your opinion, what is the difference between the Blacky and Bluey and why "Bluey" on this track?
Sounds great, btw.
Great one, thanks
Great tutorial on stacked compression. I'm using those same (almost) 2 Waves compressors, the CLA 76 Blacky into a CLA 2A sitting in the Waves Studio Rack. Each is gain reducing about 2.5 dB on mine.
IMO another great compressor is their PuigChild 670, which I have also. Those 3 have a very unique sound to them, even more when all 3 are stacked. Yes crazy Delta said 3, each doing 2-3 dB reduction.
Sounds good but what’s the puigchild used for ? Just for like more color or setting the attack and release better musically ?
@@impelskies7715 This puigchild represents the grandfather compressor, the Fairchild, from the '50s or so. It's adding an old analog tube saturation sound as well as compression. 670 versions are stereo and 660 is mono. It can work well to color and compress, which is why I used it, and it seems to do this well. Settings are somewhat different than other comps, in that there's a time constant selector switch, it affects the release. There's a spec chart that describes the different TC settings. I haven't used this comp plugin for a month or so, as I'm trying out other compressors, as for my use case, it might be the culprit of using too much CPU resources on my DAW.
Bottom line Puigchild gives a tube and transformer like vibe that is a bit different than most others. I may be incorrect, but I think the Manley Mu is a more modern but similar type of comp. My main reason for differring comp types is color and my perceived compression action differences. My opinion is you'd want to sample it to see if you like its color and comp action, because it may not suit your taste or music.
Thanks heaps for the video mate, helped a lot 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Awesome, glad to hear that!
Nice work… but you didn’t really let a full passage of the dry uncompressed vocal to come through so we could hear a solid before and after, in order to really assess the difference.
👍👍
I can recommend the hardware version of this trick 😍🤝🏼🤩
Great video 👍🏻👍🏻 Can I use the CL1B instead of the LA2A?
Awesome
dope asf bro
Hi Jerry, super useful. One thing I don't quite get. When you load the compressors in succession - are these on the actual track itself, or is your compressor chain on an aux and you are sending to it? And if you are sending to an aux, what ratio of dry signal are you sending, and why?
its on the track
Great video Jerry. When your setting your final output on the 2A, are you gainstaging for a -12 target?
Probably not that really doesn't matter in any way as long as you're not clipping it could be -1 -3 -6 it makes no difference if its too loud turn it down
How could u use pull Tec with this
Would this be called serial compression?
Spot on
Good video
I heard the CLA 2A is more used for rock songs over rap. So I been using the CLA 76 and R Comp compressor on my rap vocals. What's your thoughts on that combo over using the CLA 2A ?
It doesn’t matter really so much as to what compressor you use, but you want one to have a fast attack setting to control the peaks and one with a slower attack setting to add some smoothness.. the actual compressors you decide to use is a stylistic choice
@@mixwithjerry gotcha, that breaks it Down perfectly! Subscribed. Thanks Jerry!!! 🙂😎💙
My opinion: it's not so much which ones specifically you're using, but how you're using them. As Jerry said in his comment, make sure one does a fast attack and the other one slow. The 1176 and LA2A, and emulations of those, naturally give you those fast and slow compressors, but there are others. Some, if settings allow, could be both slow or fast. That's why I said in the beginning it depends on how you're using them.
@@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 gotcha that makes a ton of sense. Thanks bro!
@@iamnyron welcome, best to ya on whatever audio you're into
great
after the two compressors is that when you would maybe start using paralel compression aswell ? Trying to learn so would be happy to hear some feedback on what is best practice
Parallel Compression would typically be done on its own mixer track so it is processing a duplicate copy of the lead vocal. So it’s not really a part of the lead vocal’s plugin chain if that’s what you’re asking.. but I usually mix the lead vocal and if I still need it to be more upfront in the mix then I will add parallel compression to add thickness. Parallel compression completely squashed the signal so there’s no peaks. That’s why it’s great for blending in with the lead vocal because it won’t really raise the overall peak level of the vocal, which will help you get the track loud at the end during mastering along with many other things across the mix. Hope this helps.
What would you do if you have really dynamic vocals and 8db GR just wouldn't be enough? Say we're talking 15-20db needed. Would you add more 1176s (clean setting, I imagine), or have it clamp down more? Or even split the GR evenly between the 1176 and LA2A (say 10db each)?
The more dynamic the more compression. But you need to listen how's that sounds anyway
Where can i find this song
would you still need to parallel compress after those two
Just depends on the song and mix. If you need the vocal to be more upfront, and you want to give it some more power without just turning it up in the mix then parallel compression is perfect for that.
I just bought the CLA- 2A compressor. Do I need the CLA-76 compressor?
did the song drop? really helpul tuto btw thank you!
Yes it’s called “Champagne Leaves” by Jerry Gleam on all streaming platforms
Where I can listen full song
It’s called Champagne Leaves by Jerry Gleam on all streaming platforms
Can you record vocals with these settings?
Yoooo 🔥🔥
Doesn’t vocal rider do the same the you had the first compressor doing?
In a way yeah, but vocal rider doesn’t add any color or tone that you’d get from a compressor in addition to the leveling it does.
Hey Jerry do you put both compressors one after another on your chain ?
Sure do 👍🏼
@@mixwithjerry thank you brother love ur new song by the way the words are very touchful... I got a quick question I just started using saturation on my mix where best in my vocals chain should I place my saturation when mixing???
whats the difference between bluey and blacky?
Design interface. Down to choice
can we use three compressors? like starting from cla 2a then cla 76 and lastly r vox to make it more upfront?
There are no rules so definitely. Just keep in mind how much compression you’re getting from each and what role each compressor is serving.
@@mixwithjerry sure. love your videos. learning a lot of stuffs from you
Whats the diff between cla 76 mono to streo? I have the llugin and dont know what to use
Mono is for single sound sources (like a vocal recorded with one microphone). Stereo is for something recorded with multiple sources to create a left and right channel (like a synth).
@@mixwithjerry so if i mix my rap vocal, i need to use the mono version?
@@idane1234 Yes, that would be good practice.
Only took me 3 times watching to get this down. lol
Is it possible to support the channel? kind of saved my life.
Which is the name of this song???
Champagne Leaves - Jerry Gleam
why do you use "Mono" cla-76? Why not stereo :/
Because my vocal signal is mono
Pierre Roads
I need to do this but I don't have the CLA series compressors. I have Rvox, Rcomp, and TDR Molotok. Any advice how I can use these instead?
RComp with a fast attack (like 2.5 ms is good starting point) and medium to fast release. Then the Rvox right after that. How much you want each compressor is up to you but the RComp is for the peaks and RVox is for overall tone and level.
@@mixwithjerry thank you so much! Did not expect you to reply on a year old video. Super cool man, ty again
👌✌️❤️
You didn't really explain why you were using the first compressor in the first place, to what end, why 12 db reduction was even necessary. So it didn't really make sense to suddenly talk about two compressors working in serial because there wasn't any objective reason to do so.
There are other compression tutorials on my page where I explain why and how to compress a vocal. This is a more advanced tutorial. I didn’t want to make this video too long by over-explaining something that most viewers already grasp. Don’t focus on why I have 12 db of gain reduction. That’s just what this particular vocal needed. All vocals are different. The point is that this technique just splits up the workload between 2 compressors instead of one.