I had a lvl 1 flametal armor, lvl 2 Thundering Berserkir axes, Bonemass and Barley Vine, 2 health and 1 stamina foods. Some health and stamina potions if you are in a hurry. And I pretty much just clicked him to death. The only thing I had to avoid were those spikes since the fire damage they do still melts through the armor resist and the vine resist. All the melee attacks missed 75% of the time or the damage they were dealing was neglectable. Biggest problem I got was the constant random spawn coming to fight me and I had to kite them around till they die of fire. Man , I hate those ashland spawns.
I ran with 1 friend through the whole of Ashlands and we actually found Fader the easiest part. Lord Rito was way harder and even some of the adds. We went into Fader blind and just wung it and no death cleared it the first time. Bonemass and flame res potion lasted the whole fight and we didnt really need anything else.
We both ran melee with fully upgrade flametal armor, root chest, and fully upgraded lightning weapons. He has multiple hit boxes that the lightning will jump through so def go all out dps here. I was able to parry with Thunder Axes so you dont need to be too concerned with his melee attacks. Towards the end having a bow or ranged attack was helpful as he just kept spamming the fire to keep us away
While they did "hot fix" it, you can still still cheese the fight if you find a full arena. Still stay as far back as you can, but as the trolls die run up, respawn them, and run away. Because he'll stay stuck in the arena he wont be able to chase you. Just rotate around the Arena so the walls don't get too damaged by the trolls.
I appreciate you always making great videos about this game crazy it’s already been year since I watched your first valheim guides I hope you have a good day
Just thought i'd mention the pronounciation of Fader. Think "father" but replace "th" with "D" and pronounce the D as you do in "dead, dragon, dark" same applies to "Moder" It's simply mother and father in swedish :)
idk how to spell it but also the rolled R not the english one its funny where I live we mean the english r when we say "rolled r" but the normal r is just the swedish one that english people call the rolled r
Yea, the staff of wild with the askwin set and cape was how I did it first try. Just kite him. He kills his minions by himself. This setup was the easiest tactic overall, because youre so fast, nothing can come even close to you while you need like 2-5 arrows for even the hardest enemies and have plenty of stamina and HP even if you get hit. And the rest is done by the roots. Killed lord Leto with the bow of the wild and ice arrows. He was constantly immobilized. Only problem is, it made the game so easy, it was no challenge anymore
I had him down a little bit below half meleeing him when he randomly took off towards one of the conquered fortresses nearby. He then did a special move that highly damaged the fortress and there were so many damage calculations it brought my comp to a crawl.
confirmed I tried today. Fader killed the trolls with taking almost no damage. It is possible to get close and keep summoning trolls but it takes forever and if Fader aggros on you you're toast
Greetings fellow Viking, according to your Video and using the Troll Staff for Fader, and while i can't see any attacks from him against the Trolls, IronGate released a new Patch today (0.215.16) on the public Beta branch. And one of the Patch notes said, Spawned trolls can now be attacked by bosses so i guess the method to Cheese him doesn't work any more. But nice Content anyway 👍
Also to add, Fader shares a lot of similarities with Yagluth: - Summons fire meteors - Breathes fire - Both fire-themed - Both highly aggressive and will do their best to follow you wherever you try to run
Very true however Yaggy does not ramp up quite like fader does. I honestly have no idea how you are supposed to melee that fight. I tried. I even tried it cheating my butt off with over upgraded gear, no stamina and such. Fight is just nuts.
@@Firespark81 in my case i defeated Fader initially by sniping him first with arbalest until he's about half health, then do a series of quick hit-and-run melee hits with Frostner (it does a bit of knockback) 2-3 hits then i run away, look for another opening then repeat process. IT WAS NOT EASY tho. I died ELEVEN TIMES fighting Fader just to chip away at his health slowly lol. I tried using the Demolisher too but it eats up more stamina, and mistwalker is just about as effective as Frostner. In the end after my 11th death my hit and run Frostner strat finally paid off. Now im back on ashlands again and this time i plan to beat Fader using... *Catapults*
When i first fought Fader back during the first day of the PTB, i never expected his AOE *Spiky Fiery Floor* Attack would hurt so freaking bad. I instantly went from "nah, I'd win" to OH GOD IT HURTS HELP" lol
Killed him today using storm ashfang with frostarrows and poison berzerker axes, was alot easier than expected. no bosspowers, no magic and no feathercape.
@@blackwng it was the axes i had on me at the time when i went in trying, really as simple as that. Valheim isnt desgined to force you to play in a certain way, just hands you options that helps you. People also follow too many guides instead of just playing it their own way.
@@eriandhor big facts, valheim isn't designed to be meta-chased super hard. Personally the bloodstone effects seem the most interesting for me. Lightning aoe is good but i want that beefy single target damage. Although i play as a mage so my first priorities are getting all the staffs and upgrading them. Right now i love the root staff, its so spammable with full eitr foods, and since 90% of the time in ashlands I'm running around with no stam kiting things, it works pretty well to just kite things around them while my eitr builds back up.
Why take a cape that makes you very weak to fire damage against a boss that deals mostly fire damage? Surely the ask or ash capes are better for this fight?
Thanks for the vid. I think I'm going to create a border, hatch 100 1-star asksvin eggs, and when they become full size just see what they can do to him. This fight doesn't look too appealing to solo. lol
That can work saw it done. Someone posted a video of it in the discord. If you summon him and run it should work the same as the trolls now that I think about it.
Great video, as always. Just one question, why those specific foods when you can have a better stamina food (the pie, don't remember the name) and a better eitr food (the drink, don't remember the name neither)?
@@Firespark81 yes, I checked. For eitr there's Sparkling Shroomshake (30 health, 15 stamina, 90 eitr) and for stamina there's Roasted crust pie (34 health, 100 stamina). Anyway, great video, keep up with your work!
how is your ashlands so clear?(no mist/darkness, blue sky) is it via coscole commands to make it easier to see what's happening or are there portions of ashlands that are clear like this?
I don't have the game open to mess around with it but I suspect it might be related to some of the graphics settings. Could also be mods, but I'd look at those first. Edit: I saw another post made by Spark with the answer, it's the Dev Command env clear.
@@McManthony21 Yeah, especially since you can't start training magic until you are well into Mistlands. But blocking isn't bad - I go into a burial chamber and aggro around 4 skeletons and drag them to a corridor and let them beat on my shield (tower works best). Just keep an eye on shield durability and stamina. During skelton surprise I had maybe 10 or more (including archers) with my back to a stone wall.
@@jaylebreak4474 You can make a really nice blood magic skill farm near a greydwarf nest, you just have to dig underneath and make an enclosure for Skeleton archers to shoot and afk
What does it matter how I make them? I put time and effort into them and if you think AI can easily reproduce the look, feel and composition of my thumbnails I implore you to please go try to reproduce them. Btw there are better things to waste your energy on than worrying about if AI has played a part in art you see m8. It's everywhere and in everything and I really doubt 90% of the time you realize it. Go waste your energy on something that matters.
Ashen cape is better for melee since you get -10% stamina usage for attacks best combo with ask set. Feather cape is best with magic setup and fire res pot
You can't build within the boss arena. You can build just outside of it though, so if you wanted to, you could build dirt walls and kite him out of the arena.
@@BeezerGutlr Oh must've been something that was added before the queen as I have done dirt pillars for Moder and Yagluth and raised the terrain around bonemass as the area I had him was too small and needed raising so I had more running around to do and well now trying to uncover the queens entrance as it seems to be surrounded by stone or it was just ruined due to ashlands map change since it was fairly close to the ashlands :/
@@Orwrath2010 Yeah that happened on my old world, but luckily the queens entrance was still a little island I could climb up, I was worried it was just not going to exist since on my map it was just in the ocean. But to your first point, you can still build dirt walls around all the other bosses, in fact I did it on another world when I fought Moder. It's only Fader's arena where you can't build (and I guess technically the Queens).
4th wall spawns off camera.. You play Valheim for long enough and It feels like the game is mindlessly harrassing you and it gets tedious. Combined with having to stop and just stare at that stamina bar and something in you just dies. It is a far to obvious pretence and I can't play it anymore basically.
@@chrisiii9529 "large radius" i think you're exaggerating how much they actually reveal lol. Also that is not a viable method for exploring the mistlands, only really for setting up a base
Queen was super easy fight for me. I just lobbed fireballs at her while running circles on the top floor of the dungeon. took me 10 minutes, didn't even had to use a pot. had my elemental skill around 38.
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Full Ask+Ashen Cape, Iolite Berserkir Axes, Bonemass, and don't let him escape
I had a lvl 1 flametal armor, lvl 2 Thundering Berserkir axes, Bonemass and Barley Vine, 2 health and 1 stamina foods. Some health and stamina potions if you are in a hurry. And I pretty much just clicked him to death. The only thing I had to avoid were those spikes since the fire damage they do still melts through the armor resist and the vine resist. All the melee attacks missed 75% of the time or the damage they were dealing was neglectable. Biggest problem I got was the constant random spawn coming to fight me and I had to kite them around till they die of fire. Man , I hate those ashland spawns.
I ran with 1 friend through the whole of Ashlands and we actually found Fader the easiest part. Lord Rito was way harder and even some of the adds. We went into Fader blind and just wung it and no death cleared it the first time. Bonemass and flame res potion lasted the whole fight and we didnt really need anything else.
We both ran melee with fully upgrade flametal armor, root chest, and fully upgraded lightning weapons. He has multiple hit boxes that the lightning will jump through so def go all out dps here. I was able to parry with Thunder Axes so you dont need to be too concerned with his melee attacks. Towards the end having a bow or ranged attack was helpful as he just kept spamming the fire to keep us away
Talk about...trolling the boss
While they did "hot fix" it, you can still still cheese the fight if you find a full arena. Still stay as far back as you can, but as the trolls die run up, respawn them, and run away. Because he'll stay stuck in the arena he wont be able to chase you. Just rotate around the Arena so the walls don't get too damaged by the trolls.
I appreciate you always making great videos about this game crazy it’s already been year since I watched your first valheim guides I hope you have a good day
Glad you enjoy the content. Ty for watching!
Just thought i'd mention the pronounciation of Fader. Think "father" but replace "th" with "D" and pronounce the D as you do in "dead, dragon, dark"
same applies to "Moder"
It's simply mother and father in swedish :)
idk how to spell it but also the rolled R not the english one its funny where I live we mean the english r when we say "rolled r" but the normal r is just the swedish one that english people call the rolled r
@@excancerpoik yeah "rolling" the R is apparently something not that easy if you don't come from a place that uses it, pretty interesting stuff.
Envelope is pronounced two different ways both being correct. Think of fade. With an r. Fader
Considering how much fire gets flung at you...I would add the [Fire resistance barley wine] to the mix as well.
Yea if you have trouble keeping your bubble up that would be a good idea.
Yea, the staff of wild with the askwin set and cape was how I did it first try. Just kite him. He kills his minions by himself.
This setup was the easiest tactic overall, because youre so fast, nothing can come even close to you while you need like 2-5 arrows for even the hardest enemies and have plenty of stamina and HP even if you get hit. And the rest is done by the roots. Killed lord Leto with the bow of the wild and ice arrows. He was constantly immobilized. Only problem is, it made the game so easy, it was no challenge anymore
I had him down a little bit below half meleeing him when he randomly took off towards one of the conquered fortresses nearby. He then did a special move that highly damaged the fortress and there were so many damage calculations it brought my comp to a crawl.
yea the ashlands is very unoptimized. I drop frames there like crazy and I'm on a 3080 TI.
I don't think that cheese quite works anymore because they patched Fader not attacking the trolls
confirmed I tried today. Fader killed the trolls with taking almost no damage. It is possible to get close and keep summoning trolls but it takes forever and if Fader aggros on you you're toast
I'm trying today and it's not working :(
Greetings fellow Viking,
according to your Video and using the Troll Staff for Fader, and while i can't see any attacks from him against the Trolls,
IronGate released a new Patch today (0.215.16) on the public Beta branch.
And one of the Patch notes said,
Spawned trolls can now be attacked by bosses
so i guess the method to Cheese him doesn't work any more.
But nice Content anyway 👍
Also to add, Fader shares a lot of similarities with Yagluth:
- Summons fire meteors
- Breathes fire
- Both fire-themed
- Both highly aggressive and will do their best to follow you wherever you try to run
Very true however Yaggy does not ramp up quite like fader does. I honestly have no idea how you are supposed to melee that fight. I tried. I even tried it cheating my butt off with over upgraded gear, no stamina and such. Fight is just nuts.
@@Firespark81 in my case i defeated Fader initially by sniping him first with arbalest until he's about half health, then do a series of quick hit-and-run melee hits with Frostner (it does a bit of knockback) 2-3 hits then i run away, look for another opening then repeat process.
IT WAS NOT EASY tho. I died ELEVEN TIMES fighting Fader just to chip away at his health slowly lol. I tried using the Demolisher too but it eats up more stamina, and mistwalker is just about as effective as Frostner.
In the end after my 11th death my hit and run Frostner strat finally paid off.
Now im back on ashlands again and this time i plan to beat Fader using... *Catapults*
@@Firespark81you just dodge-roll his melee attacks and run away whenever he summons spikes or meteors
@@Firespark81oh and you use fire-resistance mead, health & stamina potions, and and bonemass ofcourse
the thing is Yagluth is actually a fun fight but Fader is either he cheeses you or you cheese him
after you kill the boss and put his trophy on the altar what evil things from the ashlands appear at night in other biomes?
A pack of three charred. Seems kind of random if it's all warriors/archers or a combo of both.
This is the coolest boss in the game! The best flight and most fun challenge 😊 i would recommend not cheesing Fader (Fah-der (like father))
Thanks for the info
When i first fought Fader back during the first day of the PTB, i never expected his AOE *Spiky Fiery Floor* Attack would hurt so freaking bad. I instantly went from "nah, I'd win" to OH GOD IT HURTS HELP" lol
yup its nuts. So much damage. And the fact you cant get away from it makes it even more crazy.
Killed him today using storm ashfang with frostarrows and poison berzerker axes, was alot easier than expected. no bosspowers, no magic and no feathercape.
how come you opted for poison vs lightning axe
@@blackwng it was the axes i had on me at the time when i went in trying, really as simple as that. Valheim isnt desgined to force you to play in a certain way, just hands you options that helps you. People also follow too many guides instead of just playing it their own way.
@@blackwngrooted effect op
@@eriandhor big facts, valheim isn't designed to be meta-chased super hard. Personally the bloodstone effects seem the most interesting for me. Lightning aoe is good but i want that beefy single target damage. Although i play as a mage so my first priorities are getting all the staffs and upgrading them. Right now i love the root staff, its so spammable with full eitr foods, and since 90% of the time in ashlands I'm running around with no stam kiting things, it works pretty well to just kite things around them while my eitr builds back up.
1 eitr food + staff of protection, full ask set berserker axe makes the boss super easy
Well add in ooze and bile bombs as well then
Why take a cape that makes you very weak to fire damage against a boss that deals mostly fire damage? Surely the ask or ash capes are better for this fight?
Thanks for the vid. I think I'm going to create a border, hatch 100 1-star asksvin eggs, and when they become full size just see what they can do to him. This fight doesn't look too appealing to solo. lol
That can work saw it done. Someone posted a video of it in the discord. If you summon him and run it should work the same as the trolls now that I think about it.
Pets will kill pets with friendly fire..... and boss fire)
Great video, as always. Just one question, why those specific foods when you can have a better stamina food (the pie, don't remember the name) and a better eitr food (the drink, don't remember the name neither)?
Are there better? I thought those were the best available... My bad if I missed better ones.
@@Firespark81 yes, I checked. For eitr there's Sparkling Shroomshake (30 health, 15 stamina, 90 eitr) and for stamina there's Roasted crust pie (34 health, 100 stamina). Anyway, great video, keep up with your work!
what do you type in commands to clear skies
env Clear
Fader is pronounced exactly like father only with «d» instead of «th». It’s literally the same word.
just like moder - mother
I'll assume that deep north boss will be Sun or Dolla
Do you remember how much time you need fighting Fader as a mage no cheese?
Your Ashlands is so bright with clear sky and no fog. Is it a mod or did you lower the graphics somehow?
Admin commands so you all can see what the heck is going on lol. Env clear.
this is so good fight why would I cheese it
Cause it sucks lol
What's with the clear blue skies in Ashlands?
Mods
Admin commands so you can see
how is your ashlands so clear?(no mist/darkness, blue sky) is it via coscole commands to make it easier to see what's happening or are there portions of ashlands that are clear like this?
I don't have the game open to mess around with it but I suspect it might be related to some of the graphics settings. Could also be mods, but I'd look at those first.
Edit: I saw another post made by Spark with the answer, it's the Dev Command env clear.
I think he cleared the environment, like you guessed.
How yo health so low im running around with 380 health
How do you get the new food? My station only goes to lvl 5...
Have you built the rolling pins yet? It's a new addition to the cooking pot. If you have it would be the ingredients.
Could also be the spice rack if you never stumbled across turnips.
What is the minimum bloodmagic (etc) skill level recommended or this character had for this fight?
I doubt there is a minimum but i think skills at this part of the game should be at 50+
Just my opinion.
It's such a a slow level up. I had to make an afk farm to get my skill to 50. I wish this and block went up faster.
40 or 50 for sure.
@@McManthony21 Yeah, especially since you can't start training magic until you are well into Mistlands. But blocking isn't bad - I go into a burial chamber and aggro around 4 skeletons and drag them to a corridor and let them beat on my shield (tower works best). Just keep an eye on shield durability and stamina. During skelton surprise I had maybe 10 or more (including archers) with my back to a stone wall.
@@jaylebreak4474 You can make a really nice blood magic skill farm near a greydwarf nest, you just have to dig underneath and make an enclosure for Skeleton archers to shoot and afk
Green Flame!
IYKYK
who does the artwork for your thumbnails?
an AI i reckon
I do.
@@Firespark81 is it Ai?
@@SamDeCam1 that is what i am worried about. i dont want to support AI artwork.
What does it matter how I make them? I put time and effort into them and if you think AI can easily reproduce the look, feel and composition of my thumbnails I implore you to please go try to reproduce them.
Btw there are better things to waste your energy on than worrying about if AI has played a part in art you see m8. It's everywhere and in everything and I really doubt 90% of the time you realize it.
Go waste your energy on something that matters.
My trolls don't stay on the boss, get killed by one mob.
Looks easy when you do it 🙂
I wonder why you still wear the feather cape, which is weak to fire damage, instead one of the Ashland capes?
None of that matters when you are in a bubble and that cape is the most OP cape in the game.
asksvin cape is good if you melee, doubles run speed in the wind
Ashen cape is better for melee since you get -10% stamina usage for attacks best combo with ask set. Feather cape is best with magic setup and fire res pot
I wonder if any amount of wolves can beat this boss?
Twice
I used 109 2-star asksvin, 23 were left
Does raising the ground help with having a bunch of dirt pillars around?
You can't build within the boss arena. You can build just outside of it though, so if you wanted to, you could build dirt walls and kite him out of the arena.
@@BeezerGutlr Oh must've been something that was added before the queen as I have done dirt pillars for Moder and Yagluth and raised the terrain around bonemass as the area I had him was too small and needed raising so I had more running around to do and well now trying to uncover the queens entrance as it seems to be surrounded by stone or it was just ruined due to ashlands map change since it was fairly close to the ashlands :/
@@Orwrath2010 Yeah that happened on my old world, but luckily the queens entrance was still a little island I could climb up, I was worried it was just not going to exist since on my map it was just in the ocean. But to your first point, you can still build dirt walls around all the other bosses, in fact I did it on another world when I fought Moder. It's only Fader's arena where you can't build (and I guess technically the Queens).
Fader is prenounced almost exactly like "Father".
Fade +r fader
the 4th boss is also a dragon, and is Modder, almost exactly like "Mother".
I see you not so subtly detest this boss lol
After 2 days of fighting it and testing yessum. Im very much over it. It is very over tuned imo.
I stoped playing valhime after mist land's it should have been called blinding fog land the never ending constant grind did me in
you can get a feather cape in like 2-3 hours and biome is chill lol fog and terrain is lame though should have been one or other
4th wall spawns off camera.. You play Valheim for long enough and It feels like the game is mindlessly harrassing you and it gets tedious. Combined with having to stop and just stare at that stamina bar and something in you just dies. It is a far to obvious pretence and I can't play it anymore basically.
You have to build wisp lights they get rid of the fog in a large radious
@@chrisiii9529 "large radius" i think you're exaggerating how much they actually reveal lol. Also that is not a viable method for exploring the mistlands, only really for setting up a base
skill issue honestly
Queen and yag felt harder than this boss
Queen was super easy fight for me. I just lobbed fireballs at her while running circles on the top floor of the dungeon. took me 10 minutes, didn't even had to use a pot. had my elemental skill around 38.
@@wijn1008 I agree the Queen is probably the easiest fight after the first 3
imagine having a hard time with Yagluth. 😂
@@whirlybird268 It just takes long but it isnt hard
What kind of human would cheese these boss fights? lol
You speak to fast for me.
Too*
@@guymontag162 too*