Nice clear, concise video. I’m been playing drums for 40 years, but new to home recording. This looks super useful, and could be my first plug in purchase. Wish it were a little less cash, though.
Curious to see how this works on blast beats or faster/dense playing in general. Drummers hitting snare, cymbals and kicks at the same time is just a major headache mixing heavy music.
@@GreenLightSound Still doing this the manual way when I have a death metal band as client, detecting all transients, chop regions by transients, normalize all regions and trim them to the same length, support with triggers. Pretty time consuming and painful yet necessary, if only there's a plugin that automizes this...
@X Y are you doing all that work for each drum track, or on a full drum kit stem? Either way, if you don’t mind exporting wav files from your DAW out to a 2-track audio editor, Triumph is a Mac application that uses Apple Automator to build audio-specific workflows, and is designed specifically for time consuming, repetitive tasks. You could build a custom workflow with 4 elements: detect and chop by transients, normalize and trim to equal lengths. Then you just drop a wav file on the workflow icon and it does all that quickly. The issue: the company that developed it (Audiofile Engineering) sold the rights to their software and legal hassles followed. But Triumph was getting pretty popular and might have escaped that legal mess. It’s definitely worth a Google search, or check KVRaudio.com
I'm working with a client who plays soft floor tom rolls while bashing the shit out of his ride. Though this plugin is actually quite amazing, sadly it couldn't even detect the transients from these sections of the track. I almost certainly will buy this plugin though, as this is more of a misnomer.
does this have a free demo, I'm totally blind and so I would really like to check I can access everything in logic and protools with my voiceover screen reader before I drop money on it. it's sounding like it's super useful. at the minute I tend to use BX SSL strips on most of my drum tracks
This video didn't even show how to use the advanced tools in the plugin like the learn unmatched and remove unmatched which is what I was looking for. :(
Here is an excerpt from the manual: "This is the final detection method for fine tuning what gets let through the gate if you’re still having problems after the Detect Transients and Match Transients. If you have a snare hit that is not being correctly identified as a snare, you can loop your DAW over the specific transient, click “Learn Unmatched”, and that transient will be allowed through the gate, with a green colouration in the Detect Transients section so it is easy to spot in the interface. Similarly, you can use “Remove Matched” to gate out hits that are being incorrectly allowed through the gate, for example, a tom hit that has been mistakenly categorised as a snare. Additionally, you can use Learn Unmatched as a custom gate to control any kind of source, without a Match Transients drum type selected."
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I saw this at AES but forget about it despite me being impressed. Thanks to your awesome and practical review. I am downloading the demo now.
It's a great tool. Thanks for watching!
Nice clear, concise video. I’m been playing drums for 40 years, but new to home recording. This looks super useful, and could be my first plug in purchase. Wish it were a little less cash, though.
The Oxford plugins are expensive, but if you mix a lot if drums it can be a life saver!
Just found out about this. I’m sold!!
Holy sh*t why have i never heard of this before O_O
Just perfect way to explain things. Thanks!
I'm in the market for the "definitive" drums gate but I can't choose between Sonnox and the AIXDSP one !
Incredible 😳
Curious to see how this works on blast beats or faster/dense playing in general. Drummers hitting snare, cymbals and kicks at the same time is just a major headache mixing heavy music.
It will be tough, but the filtering options should minimize the effect of the bleed even if you can't get rid of it.
@@GreenLightSound Still doing this the manual way when I have a death metal band as client, detecting all transients, chop regions by transients, normalize all regions and trim them to the same length, support with triggers. Pretty time consuming and painful yet necessary, if only there's a plugin that automizes this...
@X Y are you doing all that work for each drum track, or on a full drum kit stem? Either way, if you don’t mind exporting wav files from your DAW out to a 2-track audio editor, Triumph is a Mac application that uses Apple Automator to build audio-specific workflows, and is designed specifically for time consuming, repetitive tasks. You could build a custom workflow with 4 elements: detect and chop by transients, normalize and trim to equal lengths. Then you just drop a wav file on the workflow icon and it does all that quickly. The issue: the company that developed it (Audiofile Engineering) sold the rights to their software and legal hassles followed. But Triumph was getting pretty popular and might have escaped that legal mess. It’s definitely worth a Google search, or check KVRaudio.com
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Wow that's interesting. I'll go check that out, thanks!!
i have to detect all song, or just a part
Just a part, but I would start with a softer part to make sure all of the hits make it through the gate.
I'm working with a client who plays soft floor tom rolls while bashing the shit out of his ride. Though this plugin is actually quite amazing, sadly it couldn't even detect the transients from these sections of the track. I almost certainly will buy this plugin though, as this is more of a misnomer.
It is a great plugin but can't always save a poorly balanced player. In those cases you might have to just embrace the bleed.
No amount of processing will redeem bad playing. I cringe every time I work with a bad drummer.
Man i am lost a bit in all the information. A simple question: Can you reliably target a Snare in a full mix and pull it down in a transparent manner?
Without access to the snare track it's difficult. You might be able to tame it a bit with multiband processing.
does this have a free demo, I'm totally blind and so I would really like to check I can access everything in logic and protools with my voiceover screen reader before I drop money on it. it's sounding like it's super useful. at the minute I tend to use BX SSL strips on most of my drum tracks
They do. Here is the link: www.sonnox.com/demos
@@GreenLightSound nice. will check this out
This plugin doesn't work properly on P.C
This video didn't even show how to use the advanced tools in the plugin like the learn unmatched and remove unmatched which is what I was looking for. :(
Here is an excerpt from the manual:
"This is the final detection method for fine tuning what gets let through the gate if you’re still having problems after the Detect Transients and Match Transients. If you have a snare hit that is not being correctly identified as a snare, you can loop your DAW over the specific transient, click “Learn Unmatched”, and that transient will be allowed through the gate, with a green colouration in the Detect Transients section so it is easy to spot in the interface.
Similarly, you can use “Remove Matched” to gate out hits that are being incorrectly allowed through the gate, for example, a tom hit that has been mistakenly categorised as a snare.
Additionally, you can use Learn Unmatched as a custom gate to control any kind of source, without a Match Transients drum type selected."
love it, but to expensive
Get it when it's on sale. Usually at least a couple times a year.