⭐ Edith Pretty of Sutton Hoo ⭐ Real Life True Story of Mrs. Pretty Vs Netflix Movie,The Dig

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @suzanneedmonds1566
    @suzanneedmonds1566 4 года назад +31

    In researching the truth behind the movie The Dig I was simultaneously excited and disappointed to discover that the real photographers of the Sutton Hoo excavation were two women. Mercie Lack & Barbara Wagstaff were teachers and friends who had an interest in archeology and were holidaying in the area at the time the site was being excavated. My excitement was rooted in that fact that it was two women who were the actual photographers and my disappointment that they were replaced in the film with a fictional male character.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +11

      Yes, women in history are consistently made invisible. That is why I wanted to start this channel. To tell what is real about all the amazing women in history. Movies like The Dig spark interest but movies never tell the full story and/or often distort truth like in the movie Ammonite where you find 2 lesbian loves scenes in a movie written and directed (and imagined) by men - I did a video on pioneering paleontologist Mary Anning (ruclips.net/video/ityqGDzKAA0/видео.html) to expand upon her accomplishments and not her imagined sex life. Given that the film industry is ruled and dominated by men, well.... there you have it. So, I do my best to highlight women, their life and their achievements - that is what is important. Thank you for your comments.

    • @CISSY500
      @CISSY500 4 года назад +4

      Agree. It was just so there could be a romantic storyline included.

    • @leahnewyork
      @leahnewyork 3 года назад +2

      Gosh it would have been better if women photographers had been depicted as women!

    • @HowToVideosAndTips
      @HowToVideosAndTips 3 года назад

      They have to jazz up these things to get a story if they to try to get everything in it can turn into a mess. Anyway it's ignited my interest to watch actual documentaries starting with this video.

    • @SMC01ful
      @SMC01ful 3 года назад

      Suzanne, I abhor and am cogniscant of whitewashing - putting European's in other peoples roles as well. Unfortunately, we've had a lot of bullshit with black washing recently. This has also been in conjunction with gender. There have been all manner of women, in all manner of roles which they were never involved, or are over represented. Moreover, there has been much dumbing down, and emasculating of men in recent years. What they have done with this film is clearly pathetic, but where have women been in recent years critiquing historical revisionism? It's not until this sort of thing effects folks, they realize how annoying, and insulting this sort of thing is. We all need to unite and demand realistic historic portrayals of events and the characters involved.

  • @swimmad456
    @swimmad456 4 года назад +17

    Thank you for this. I enjoyed the Dig but the truth of Edith Pretty's life is much more rewarding than any fictionalised drama.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +2

      I agree plus the movie does not focus as much on Edith Pretty as I would have liked.

    • @suzanneedmonds1566
      @suzanneedmonds1566 4 года назад +2

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory the one major issues with films is that unless the length is going to rival that of Gone With the Wind so many details are unable to be included to the depth that some viewers would appreciate. However, the movie will I am sure pique the interest of many viewers who will delve into researching Edith Pretty, Basil Brown and the history of The Sutton Hoo Ship dig. How many people would never know about Edith or The Sutton Hoo dig without the movie.?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      @@suzanneedmonds1566 Agreed.

  • @niecybug1
    @niecybug1 4 года назад +9

    Aren't we lucky to have had a woman like Edith to share all these treasures with the world? I adored the film and am excited to read the blog by her ancestor. Thank you for sharing her story.

  • @ancienthistorypodcasts
    @ancienthistorypodcasts 4 года назад +19

    Just watched the film and liked it very much. I always like to do some research on these historical films and find youtube to be the go to place. This is a quick and concise overview of Mrs Pretty's life. Appreciated and done well, too. Thanks

  • @howto4u705
    @howto4u705 4 года назад +7

    I visited England and went to the British Museum and saw the treasures from the Sutton Hoo dig. Fascinating stuff and very beautiful. As I understand it, Edith Pretty did not get to see the treasures displayed because she died before that happened which is too bad. The war slowed getting the artifacts up and for display. I even heard a story that she hid the treasure under her bed right after they were dug up to protect them. I haven's seen the netflix movie but will soon. Nice video here for a short bio of Edith Pretty. Thanks. (Love your channel!)

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      The Netflix movie is out now. It is a beautiful movie and gives the sense of both urgency with the war coming and the sense of the time period and Suffolk countryside. When the movie was first being talked about the lead role of Edith Pretty was going to be Cate Blanchett of whom I am a huge fan. I think she would have been much better as Mrs. Pretty. Carey Mulligan has a kind of simpering demeanor and Cate Blanchette is much more imposing in any role she undertakes.. After researching about Edith Pretty, I think she was an amazingly strong woman and the Dig paints her as a "worrier" giving a different impression. Still, she proves herself in the end. Thank you for your kind words on my video.

    • @briangilliland3620
      @briangilliland3620 4 года назад

      The video is really good IMO. Cary did an amazing job of portraying the emotion and frustration that she must have experienced

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      @@briangilliland3620 Yes, the movie carries so many emotional undertones having to do with death (Edith had lost her husband 4 years prior) and a strong feeling about national history (which is so British) and Carey Mulligan portrays so much of this in her face rather than having a lot of dialog.

  • @Omardays23
    @Omardays23 2 года назад +2

    I live on the manor just down the road. Were looking at excavating 2 suspicious mounds, ,fingers crossed 🎈⛵

  • @Xstitchtchr
    @Xstitchtchr 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for an insight into her life before The Dig.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      The one line in the movie about Edith's early interest in archaeology just isn't enough is it? It it is what piqued my interest in her and I felt the need to expand upon. From there I started thinking about pioneering women the field of archaeology and am doing a video right now on that topic. Thank you for your comment and stay tuned!

  • @Philinganes
    @Philinganes 4 года назад +3

    Nice that someone decided to portray the real Edith. Thanks. (Co-Author 'From Socialite to Sutton Hoo')

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      Yes, women in history need to be highlighted for their achievements. Wish you book was more available. Would love to read it. Thank you for your comments.

  • @unicorngirlkanger476
    @unicorngirlkanger476 3 года назад +2

    Many thanks for a fascinating insight into the story behind the film which I thought was beautifully made. Thanks again 😊

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for your comments. I hope you went ahead and subscribed for more Fabulous, Fierce & Feisty Women In History videos!

  • @michaelantonyaustin
    @michaelantonyaustin 4 года назад +5

    Really interesting documentary and a nice companion piece to The Dig. Actually there is no romance between Boris and Edith in the movie, rather a deep emotional connection (hammered throughout) about our connection to the past and the importance of remembering... There is however an added subplot romance between 2 other characters, probably for that reason. As a movie it's wonderful and the performances are exquisite, but that shouldn't and doesn't take anything away from their real life counterparts, or what they accomplished. Thank for posting!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      Thank your for your comments. It is an excellent film with all kinds of deep, meaningful and very subtle messages. I absolutely loved the film.

    • @RhondaBranneky
      @RhondaBranneky 4 года назад

      Being a cellist, I love the bit about Beatrice Harrison playing her cello when a Nightengale began to sing with her. When they called in BBC to record it, it took 15 min. for the Nightengale to join her cello playing again and then people who heard the broadcast reported that Nightengalea where they lived began to sing upon hearing the broadcast!

    • @pamdoherty723
      @pamdoherty723 4 года назад

      I agree. I never felt they were romantically involved or even wished to be. They had much in common and bonded because of their shared interest.

  • @ericrowland1851
    @ericrowland1851 4 года назад +1

    When I was in the Army (RAPC) I worked with Edith's nephew, Major George Pretty, as his clerk. He was also very keen on archeology, and I spent many pleasant hours spellbound as he related his exploits while serving in Greece. It was from George that I first learned about Sutton Hoo, which. was one of the first places I visited after I left the services.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      This is wonderful to hear. I love that the family carried on Edith Pretty's interest in archaeology and that Sutton Hoo is so well known. Thank you for your comment.

  • @bernardmcmahon5377
    @bernardmcmahon5377 4 года назад

    Excellent and interesting presentation, thanks

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      Thank you. Please feel free to check out my other videos and more are coming!

  • @danbev8542
    @danbev8542 4 года назад +4

    Very interesting- thank you.

  • @newwavepop
    @newwavepop 4 года назад +3

    i am sort of a history Doc junkie and have loved the amazing artifacts from Sutton Hoo for years, somehow i didnt even realize this film existed until about 4 days ago when i promptly watched it. still uncertain why my Netflix didnt promote it at me. it honestly sort of gives me hope that someone chose to make a movie over a subject like this and would love if it started a small trend, though obviously films are always going to change some facts around and ad some drama. admittedly i really liked the Cousin character Rory Lomax that was added to the telling, even though its seems alot of the reason his character was there was to add more romance to the film which is something i usually sort of detest. i also love that he was played by the actor Johnny Flynn who is also a singer songwriter and wrote and performed the wonderful theme song to the tv show Detectorists", which itself is about a couple of guys that spend their free time in farm fields looking for forgotten Saxon artifacts. i think the entire cast did a wonderful job.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      The thing to know is that the film is based upon a novel of the same and that the author (John Preston) is a living relative of Peggy Piggot whose maiden name was Preston. I think this give the movie a good start for authenticity and tone. Although the character Rory Lomax was not a real person and was put in for, I suppose, the romance factor that it seems every movie is deemed to have. I find it amazing the Netflix made the movie with the feel of a British made period piece since a lot of their stuff is geared to a young, brash audience. Then you have movies like Ammonite (Hollywood made) that just had to have lesbian sex scenes even though nothing suggests that Mary Anning was gay at all (and her family disputes that she was). I did a video on the real life of Mary Anning - another amazing woman from history who pioneered the field of paleontology. You can find it at ruclips.net/video/ityqGDzKAA0/видео.html . Thank you for your comments. I enjoy hearing who my youtube people are.

  • @indysmith4437
    @indysmith4437 4 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @carolking6355
    @carolking6355 3 года назад +1

    What a great woman. I did enjoy the romanticised version of the film The Dig too. Did she have no children ? Who was her home left to ?

  • @davepowell7168
    @davepowell7168 3 года назад

    Fascinating insight of Edith Pretty's dedication to history and wise investment in Mr Brown.

  • @amin_rulesandraps1984
    @amin_rulesandraps1984 4 года назад +1

    Yall don’t understand... THIS PERSON HAS 3 SUBSCRIBERS AND YALL ARE VIEWING THIS KEEP THE SUBSCRIBERS UP GUYS

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      Actually I have more than 3 subscribers LOL. But please do keep them coming. Aiming for 1000 with my next 3 videos....coming soon! Thank you to all of my subscribers to date. 👍🏻

  • @aifortune
    @aifortune 4 года назад +6

    I think that movie was good and did a good job of setting the mood of what it was like as england was preparing for war. But it could have better flushing out Edith pretty character. All Carey mulligan did was sit around and give looks that were supposed to have some deep meaning
    But didn't amount to anything.

    • @briangilliland3620
      @briangilliland3620 4 года назад +2

      She was bloody amazing

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      I enjoyed all the perfomrances in the movie. THanks for your comment. It is always good to hear what others think.

    • @Chris-js6oz
      @Chris-js6oz 4 года назад

      Agreed. I found myself fast-forwarding quite a bit, but overall I enjoyed the movie very much.

  • @mariejoseehuot9309
    @mariejoseehuot9309 4 года назад

    Thank you... watched the movie last night... what happened to her son?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +2

      Edith died a few years after the excavation and Robert went to live with Edith’s sister, Elizabeth Hampshire. He went into farming, as I understand it.

    • @mariejoseehuot9309
      @mariejoseehuot9309 4 года назад

      Thanks for the quick reply. He got along so well with Basil Brown, so I wondered if their relationship lasted beyond the dig and the did the property stay in the family?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      @@mariejoseehuot9309 I don't think we really know if he and Basil stayed in touch after he moved to his aunt's. As for the property, the house & burial site are now owned by the National Trust of Britain. After Edith died in 9142, it was sold by her son's trustees in the late 1940s, and was owned by a number of local farming families until bought by a family named Tranmers where it became known as the Tranmer House. The house and the Sutton Hoo burial site were bequeathed to the National Trust in 1998.

    • @mariejoseehuot9309
      @mariejoseehuot9309 4 года назад

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory Thank you

  • @coldworld5
    @coldworld5 4 года назад +11

    Let’s be honest. Basil Brown is as important as Edith

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +4

      Yes, very much so in the discovery. My channel focuses on women in history, hence the major emphasis on her. Thanks for your comment. Always good to hear what others have to say.

    • @Chris-js6oz
      @Chris-js6oz 4 года назад +2

      Agreed.

  • @larryrobertson2150
    @larryrobertson2150 4 года назад

    I hope Mr. Brown lived a successful and fulfilling life. I hope he and the son (Robert ) remained friends.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      The movie is based on a book that is fiction based on a true story. Were Robert and Basil really that close? The book is written by Robert Preston, living relative of Peggy Piggot (maiden name Preston) who is an accomplished writer having written 3 previous novels. How closely the novel is to the movie, I am not sure since I have not read it. But for those who might want to know more than what is in the Netflix movie, you can support this channel and get the novel, The Dig, at bookshop.org/a/19586/9781590517802

  • @keithwalker5078
    @keithwalker5078 4 года назад +2

    nice video of the real edith pretty, started watching the dig and will complete it but the obviously contrived relationship between brown and her was off putting and so unneccessary and should have spent more time filling out edith's life which is fascinating as she was so far ahead of her time as a intellectual lady and curious woman.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      Yes, it would have been nice to see more of her life. She was adventurous in her youth and to show her as so sickly at the end is a sad representation of her. Thank you for your comments. Always welcome.

    • @pamdoherty723
      @pamdoherty723 4 года назад

      I agree. Edith herself was fascinating. The movie was too fractured in dealing with other story lines. Trying to find romance when there was none. Each woman, Edith and Peggy warrant a movie of their own.

  • @lll3852
    @lll3852 4 года назад +1

    Je viens de voir le film ,il est super

  • @reinadegrillos
    @reinadegrillos 4 года назад +2

    I don't think that in the movie is any suggestion of a love between Mrs Pretty and Mr. Brown.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +2

      I was going off a couple of reviews that mentioned this at the time I made this video and looked specifically for this since I knew I had put it in the video. After seeing the movie, I have to say that all the romances were nothing more than suggested or hinted at. Maybe a hint from when Mrs Brown looked over at Mrs Pretty when she was talking to her husband or maybe when he was in danger (won't say how since I don't want to give it away to those who haven't seen the movie yet) but overall I agree with you. Thanks for commenting. Always good to hear what others have to say.

    • @reinadegrillos
      @reinadegrillos 4 года назад +1

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory Yes, I think to have a friendship between man and woman, and care about the other is one of the themes explored in this remarkable story.

  • @finlaaywebbster5564
    @finlaaywebbster5564 4 года назад

    very good film

  • @lynnjoburns2106
    @lynnjoburns2106 4 года назад

    I’ve never heard of her n yet I spent my early years n was born in Halifax,which is just around the corner

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      Exactly why I started this channel. So many women in history are invisible, never given credit, overshadowed by male counterparts, etc. Another video that I did is on Mary Anning- an amazing woman whose early work in paleontology was credited by the men of science of her time. ruclips.net/video/ityqGDzKAA0/видео.html

    • @lynnjoburns2106
      @lynnjoburns2106 4 года назад

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory will look her up Thankyou

  • @steveningram8022
    @steveningram8022 4 года назад +2

    God bless Edith pretty,🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚔️🇬🇧

  • @fabulouswomeninhistory
    @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +4

    I love making videos that feature women in history! See m video about Mary Anning from the movie Ammonite ► ruclips.net/video/ityqGDzKAA0/видео.html

  • @babs623
    @babs623 5 месяцев назад

    Good movie

  • @maureencalder9911
    @maureencalder9911 4 года назад +2

    Do we know what happened to her son when she died? It has concerned me since seeing the movie.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +5

      I did some quick research and found this: " Robert went to live with Edith’s sister, Elizabeth. He eventually attended Eton College and then went into farming. Robert died of cancer in 1988 at the age of 57.l"

    • @larryrobertson2150
      @larryrobertson2150 4 года назад

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory I was hoping he would go stay with the Browns.

  • @a1ar127
    @a1ar127 4 года назад +3

    Better than average computer audio, but still unnecessary. Why not a real person?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      I am sorry but I don't know what you mean. I am a real person. In fact, I've just had tea and now getting back to work looking for my next video topic. I am looking for suggestions so please feel free to let me know what you would like to see next. Oh, and please comment on my visuals in my videos as well as I seek to improve as I go.

    • @herman452
      @herman452 4 года назад +1

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory Maybe you're really a replicant who thinks she is a real person. OK, just kidding, watched Blade Runner last night. Nice video you put together. I loved the movie, but knew that, being a movie, some things were altered for dramatic effect. To me, that doesn't change my opinion of the movie, but I also like to know the more historically accurate version. And as someone commented above, the movie piqued the interest of many people - including myself - who had not heard of Sutton Hoo or Edith Pretty until the movie came out. It is an utterly fascinating story in all ways and deserves to be better known.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      @@herman452 I agree. I also like to know the more historically accurate version when I watch a "based on a true story" film and always have my tablet next to me. I am glad there is so much interest in our British history. Thank you for your comments.

  • @margo3367
    @margo3367 4 года назад +5

    Of course, the filmmakers had to make her younger and romantically interested in the archaeologist that she hired. 🙄

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      And of course the film makers had to throw in some romance (Peggy and Rory Lomax - who was not a real person but Peggy was). Plus throw some speculation on Peggy's husband when there seems to be no evidence that he was gay but putting gay in a movie nowdays is popular, so there you have it. Still the writing was exemplary, the plot well intertwined and the mood perfect and I can see from these comment that people really are vested in the story of the people involved in the dig. Thank you for your comments.

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 4 года назад

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory I told my daughter about it this morning and advised her to see it. I didn't say that would deter me from watching it! Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

  • @garrieleepeck8753
    @garrieleepeck8753 4 года назад

    Amazing a great film iv lived in Britain all my life never heard of this story I need to try find a filed put a tent try find somewhere to camp nt bye

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      Yes, I love history and love researching and digging out these stories (pun intended :) . Be sure and subscribe to my channel for more great history videos!

  • @christine6059
    @christine6059 4 года назад +3

    So Carey Mulligan was playing a woman more than 20 years older.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +3

      Yes, that is correct if we assume she was portrayed as being younger. She certainly does not look to be in her fifties in the movie and it appears that there was no attempt to age the actress.

    • @CISSY500
      @CISSY500 4 года назад

      I loved Carey Milligan in this film but the age difference brings into question why she either was not aged more or that they did not select someone older.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +3

      @@CISSY500 I think they should have selected someone older simply because there are many actresses who are just as good and who look just as beautiful as Carey Milligan. Ageism does still occur everywhere just as sexism does.

  • @wereyourangels
    @wereyourangels 4 года назад

    What happened with her son?

    • @pamdoherty723
      @pamdoherty723 4 года назад

      He died fairly young. I believe of a heart attack in his 50s. What wasn't mentioned in this biography is that Edith had him at 47 years old! What a woman!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад

      I found Edith intriguing which was why I set off to do some research and put up this video. As for her son, he went to live with his aunt when Edith died 4 years later. Funny how so many comments ask about Robert. That is how strong the story line is even though it is a fictionalized version of the actual people involved.

  • @randalllake2785
    @randalllake2785 4 года назад +2

    What a woman

  • @tullochgorum6323
    @tullochgorum6323 4 года назад +2

    Good content, but as someone who is learning to narrate myself I'd like to gently point out that the narration is odd - it's as through the narrator doesn't understand the meaning (and sometimes the pronunciation) and puts the emphasis in the wrong place. Makes it quite hard to listen to. Please take this as constructive criticism - if you want to get the audience you deserve I think you'll have to work on improving this.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +4

      Thank you for your comment. I do have a speech impediment and I do the best that I can. I will work on it though. thank you.

    • @tullochgorum6323
      @tullochgorum6323 4 года назад

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory Sorry - I guess I must have come over as insensitive. I wish you all the best with your channel - it's a worthy cause!
      Another option would be to work with someone who has good voice skills. I'm not a great narrator either, and this is something I'm considering. Of course finding the right person isn't necessarily going to be easy...

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +2

      @@tullochgorum6323 Thank you for your encouraging words . :)

  • @joliregos7241
    @joliregos7241 4 года назад

    Láttam a mozit .

  • @diamondgeezertunes
    @diamondgeezertunes 4 года назад

    Loved The Dig , but if Sylvester Stallone played Basil Brown then it would have been much better movie..

    • @stephenvince9994
      @stephenvince9994 4 года назад +1

      I think that's " The Dig 2" - return of the killer archeologists. Good ol Hollywood.......

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 года назад +1

      Love the humour.

    • @vladtheimpaler8995
      @vladtheimpaler8995 4 года назад +1

      The Prequel 1600 years before would be the 3rd part of any franchise. We’re Anglo Saxons racist ?