John MacArthur, Christianity Today and MLK: Was Martin Luther King Jr. a Christian?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @Desert-edDave
    @Desert-edDave 9 месяцев назад +330

    One can not be a Christian and deny the deity of Christ and essentially call Him a liar.

    • @MrLegionofman
      @MrLegionofman 9 месяцев назад +20

      Amen, our Lord said unless you believe I am he you will die in your sins (John 8:24). Christ is God, Messiah and King.

    • @MichaelForte-jn5pn
      @MichaelForte-jn5pn 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@MrLegionofmanamen to that

    • @jayonnaj18
      @jayonnaj18 9 месяцев назад

      Amen, @Desert-edDave, Amen!!!

    • @Pete-ve2pp
      @Pete-ve2pp 9 месяцев назад +5

      I don't think Jesus died and made any of you judges.

    • @jennyhogan4561
      @jennyhogan4561 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Pete-ve2ppHE IS THE ONE THAT JUDGE THE UNGODLY... that's WHY HE TOLD US TO PREACH HIS WORD TO EVERY CREATURE

  • @kittyhawk7060
    @kittyhawk7060 9 месяцев назад +639

    I'm a semi-retired Baptist minister. I am 80 years old. For more than 50 years I have told people MLK was not a Christian. I knew of his immoral lifestyle. I knew he never preached the risen Christ. But you can't convince most people he was not saved. I'm glad that Justin chose these two black brothers in Christ to tackle this misconception of MLK. At best MLK was a social warrior. That will not get him into heaven.

    • @l.p.amador2261
      @l.p.amador2261 9 месяцев назад +30

      Amen! to that.

    • @john318john
      @john318john 9 месяцев назад +44

      Amen, He's the one that gave credence to the racial idolatry we see in the black communities today. People needs to be aware of that.

    • @Junkay2
      @Junkay2 9 месяцев назад +62

      Whether someone is saved or not is between that person and God. Only God knows who is truly saved.

    • @l.p.amador2261
      @l.p.amador2261 9 месяцев назад +37

      @@Junkay2 "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God."
      I John 5:13 NKJV

    • @BeksWorld
      @BeksWorld 9 месяцев назад +51

      I’m 42 & was told my whole life in public school MLK Jr was basically a saint. That was preached to us through public education. Most people in the church don’t understand. Our former church had a special service for the city praising MLK Jr & they cont. to praise him every year “for his work in racial justice”. I didn’t hear the truth about him until I heard Voddie Baucham, Virgil Walker & Darrell Harrison speak on it a couple of years ago.

  • @robertdavis1836
    @robertdavis1836 9 месяцев назад +225

    I'm guessing that John MacArthur couldn't care less about what CT prints about him.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 9 месяцев назад +29

      Nor should he. I stopped reading CT when I read this article:
      "The Shocking Necessity of Racist Violence: It takes cruelty and brute force for human subjugation to work." by Christina Barland Edmondson | October 9, 2020"
      I was horrified that a supposedly Christian website would publish such a thing. I can't remember if I sent this article to my (now former) church when they were jumping on the wokewagon. If I did, it made no difference.

    • @wolves201
      @wolves201 9 месяцев назад +18

      How dare anyone criticise their dear leader, John MacArthur. Truly shocking. Calvinists love to shout out about who is and who isn’t a Christian and MacArthur is a master of it.

    • @littlehousepineywoods5352
      @littlehousepineywoods5352 9 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@wolves201the Bible tells one who is a Christian so.... there's that. 🤔

    • @phil4_8
      @phil4_8 9 месяцев назад +20

      @@wolves201the man faithfully preaches the actual word of God. That’s a pretty good start to being considered a Christian. While no one is perfect, including JMac, me and YOU, I see no reason to consider JMac anything other than Christian. Care to share your wisdom, or is that just disdain?

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад +12

      CT lost its credibility years ago.
      Stick with Banner of Truth, Table Talk, Expositor, & Answers.

  • @ellbanks123
    @ellbanks123 9 месяцев назад +121

    Bless you Justin. Your boldness and vigilance is helping to change lives. Stay strong.

    • @burkebrewster1205
      @burkebrewster1205 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well said brother

    • @burkebrewster1205
      @burkebrewster1205 9 месяцев назад +3

      Most of the church does not preach repentance and sin

    • @IHZALewis
      @IHZALewis 9 месяцев назад +1

      It is very easy to say nattiness against anyone who is not able to respond, but Dr. King's life has changed the world for the better, that cannot be said for anyone of those ignorant Americans who speak ill of him today.
      You will not even impact the lives f your own family, much to impact the lives of millions of people across the world. You should be silent and thankful that such a man as Dr. King lived.

  • @kathymathison9131
    @kathymathison9131 9 месяцев назад +149

    Very excellent work. I’ve never heard much about what MLK actually believed and this is absolutely shocking. Keep up the good work of sharing the Gospel of our Lord Jesus and exposing errors. May the Lord continue to bless you and your ministry. 🙏

    • @donnat639
      @donnat639 9 месяцев назад +5

      Educators do not want you or anyone else to know the truth about MLK. They knew he could not nor would not be put on the public pedestal he has been on since his death. He was disliked by many in his day. That he was a cheat & a lying cheat on his wife & to his family is enough to keep a lid on MLK’s true story. He was his own god. He wanted glory & to be worshipped. There are many men exactly like him. My father was the same kind of man. I dare say he makes MLK look a bit angelic. But no, those who bow down, deify, glorify, lift up & worship the images of animals, birds, men & spiritual entities think it’s fine. They took Bible out of schools so they could brainwash others to believe bad behavior is good. A reckoning is awaiting them. We give thanks for that day.

    • @ASKid24
      @ASKid24 9 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed. I knew NONE of this before watching this video. Incredible.

    • @joycegayden44
      @joycegayden44 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@donnat639so you believe Trump is a Christian.

    • @geekmeee
      @geekmeee 8 месяцев назад +1

      Then I think you should pick up “KING: A Life”
      A biography to begin with what you, by your own admission, you are so unfamiliar with him.

    • @NITA-iy1kx
      @NITA-iy1kx 8 месяцев назад

      @@donnat639 👁 FLOATERS THAT B/S! A NONE VOLENT MAN , NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT PROMOTE INTER HARMONY IN PEOPLE, BEATEN BLOODY FOR IT, MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A VERY GOOD MAN! ONLY YESHUA ( JESUS CHRIST) IS HIS JUDGER. ( AND OURS) YOU WROTE THIS, NOW, I WONDER ABOUT YOU. 🤔

  • @Driskyle
    @Driskyle 9 месяцев назад +43

    My brothers in Christ this was such a good conversation. I had no idea about MLK’s true beliefs. Very enlightening, and I also really enjoyed the dynamic between the three of you. Would love to see Virgil and Darryl on your channel more often. God bless you Justin

  • @WilliamtheWorst
    @WilliamtheWorst 9 месяцев назад +184

    MLK Jr. was not a Christian nor was he a moral man. Appreciate his societal impact, but that's about all...

    • @shelbysittig1047
      @shelbysittig1047 9 месяцев назад

      I don’t even like his social impact. The destruction of the black community begins with him.

    • @KenGi973
      @KenGi973 9 месяцев назад +10

      Are you really appreciating the societal impact? Most people aren't.

    • @mlwilson2956
      @mlwilson2956 9 месяцев назад +15

      The societal impact which made public schools unsafe and destroyed freedom of association?

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness 9 месяцев назад +7

      Most people support desegregation, yes.
      Let's not side with the radical left on this issue. This bizarre trend has me baffled. Yes, eliminating government-instituted racist policies was a good thing. Perhaps there's an argument to be made about the CRA of 1964 going too far into the private realm, but that's about it.@@KenGi973

    • @DamePiglet
      @DamePiglet 9 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@SeraphsWitnesswell said. 👍
      MLK cemented the idea of "colorblindness" in popular culture, which was really good & important.
      Unfortunately, modern society has gone off the rails again.

  • @evangelinerodriguez8927
    @evangelinerodriguez8927 9 месяцев назад +58

    I enjoy listening to Just Thinking Podcast/ FAMILY RADIO 92.7. It's been a delight to listen to truth about black history. I came here from the Philippines when I was only 19, the fact that I am here 44 years. I was brought up a Catholic, but was saved now for 13 years with God's grace and mercy. I have worked here for 43 years, and retired just this past DEC to take care of my two granddaughters because of what is going with schools. I am sharing all my story because of what is going on here in America not knowing I will see this extreme changes in my own eye. I am grateful with all of you faithful brother's who have been equipping me with the truth. Even at work and Church family there are division which unreal. I am truly thankful to the Lord for your teaching. May the Lord continue to bless and guide all of you as you continue to serve His Kingdom. To God be the Glory.

    • @kittyhawk7060
      @kittyhawk7060 9 месяцев назад +5

      I loved my time in the Philippines while in the military. I fell in love with the Filipino people. It is sad how the apostate Catholic church has hidden the truth of the true gospel from them and left them in spiritual darkness.

    • @davidpersaud1630
      @davidpersaud1630 9 месяцев назад

      Was thinking of going Catholic not sure. Just tired of all the noise every o e had different doctrine but Catholic stay same all over world

    • @JamieAnewCreation
      @JamieAnewCreation 9 месяцев назад +2

      No its not the same. And its a false Gospel. Agreed it is hard to find solid teachers which is why you must test everything with scripture..and not the Passion translation...its false. You just need a bible believing church..and guidance where to find one. I found a great independent Baptist church in my area..everything its scriptural. Blessed God is Awesome and can guide you.🙏

    • @danchef8823
      @danchef8823 9 месяцев назад +3

      Fantastic! I love that you’re caring for your granddaughters and protecting their mind from the filth in schools. God bless you!

    • @danchef8823
      @danchef8823 9 месяцев назад

      @@davidpersaud1630Catholicism is a false gospel and of course there’s sprinkles of truth in it. Most cults have that.

  • @andrewpery4787
    @andrewpery4787 9 месяцев назад +43

    Seriously enjoyed this - Darrell and Virgil are straight down the line, thanks for having them on.

  • @kenbecht6892
    @kenbecht6892 8 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you, Justin, for introducing me to these two brothers,I didn't know. These men, along with you & my favorite pastor, teacher, John MacArthur, are all true gifts from God. I was aware of MLKs sordid past, but you all put everything in the right order, where JESUS CHRIST IS FIRST ABOVE ALL ELSE

  • @folarin929
    @folarin929 9 месяцев назад +66

    Whoa! I knew about MLK's "lifestyle" but this knocked me for six! I once left a church because they taught the children about MLK in Sunday school instead of teaching the children about Christ. I was furious. If I had known about his theology, my head would have exploded! Thank you Justin, Daryl and Virgil. God bless you as you continue to educate us all in truth.

    • @barackthecomposer6642
      @barackthecomposer6642 9 месяцев назад +1

      How is it that you “knew”about his lifestyle if you were not actually THERE; and if you have not seen the VIDEO footage that proves that “lifestyle.“?

    • @willy9204
      @willy9204 9 месяцев назад

      Just admit no matter how much proof exists it will never be enough proof for you ​@@barackthecomposer6642

    • @johntremblay704
      @johntremblay704 5 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@barackthecomposer6642
      If I am not mistaken, haven't there been lots of statements from those that were in King's inner circle that confirm his infidelity? Weren't there FBI wiretap recordings as well? I understand your point, we weren't there, so how do we KNOW he engaged in adultery. Well, it seems that there is a lot of evidence would lead us to such a conclusion, right? Isn't this mentioned in the video? Did you watch the video?
      I think a more pertinent question is does it matter? In the video, these three gentlemen make a case as to why King's indiscretions matter. I would think that Christian's would be mortified to discover that their local pastor is engaging in multiple affairs. I would think that such a pastor would be removed from any leadership role and his church membership called into question until he repents. King is dead, so repentance is no longer an option, and that's sad. So, what good does it do to drag all of this up? Well, first off, King was a public figure. Shouldn't people be able to discuss the moral flaws of a man that many that many confer Saint like qualities? A person many believe was a Christian Reverend, who apparently didn't believe in the resurrected Christ? If nothing else, shouldn't we speak the truth, no matter who it offends? Not to be hateful, but because it's the truth? Shouldn't we know the character of those we choose to canonize?

  • @donnarose1878
    @donnarose1878 9 месяцев назад +51

    Praise God for His truth and men to stand up for the truth.

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 8 месяцев назад

      This ain’t the truth though😂

    • @donnahong5998
      @donnahong5998 8 месяцев назад

      @@baylockbuckingham3650 I have been to MLK's church and listened to his sermon. I did not hear the gospel, please provide a link to a sermon he gave that indicate he preached that Jesus died on the cross and rose again for our sins.I will consider changing my mind.

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 8 месяцев назад

      @@donnahong5998 Congratulations on your visit 👊🏾 How many of his sermons have you listened to? How many of his books have you read?

  • @CountachQuattrovalvole
    @CountachQuattrovalvole 9 месяцев назад +59

    John MacArthur (2019): "I got a small taste of how it felt to be bullied and discriminated against in the American South in the 1960s. I spent a lot of time traveling through rural Mississippi with my good friend John Perkins, a well-known black evangelical leader, preaching the gospel in segregated black high schools. During one of those trips, as we drove down a dirt road, a local sheriff (an openly bigoted character straight out of 'In the Heat of the Night') took me into custody, held me in his jail, and accused me of disturbing the peace. He also confiscated (and kept) all my money. He ultimately released me without filing charges. I suppose he considered the money he took from me an adequate fine for doing something he disapproved of. In those days, any appeal to higher authorities would have been fruitless and possibly counterproductive. All I could do was try not to antagonize him further. I was again ministering in Mississippi with John Perkins and a group of black church leaders in April 1968 when Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated in Memphis. One of the men leading our group was Charles Evers, head of the Mississippi NAACP. (His brother Medgar had been killed in 1963 by the KKK.) When news of King’s murder broke, we drove to Memphis and literally within hours after he was assassinated, we were at the Lorraine Motel, standing on the balcony where he was shot. We were also shown the place where James Earl Ray stood to fire the fatal shot. I deplore racism and all the cruelty and strife it breeds. I am convinced the only long-term solution to every brand of ethnic animus is the gospel of Jesus Christ. In Christ alone are the barriers and dividing walls between people groups broken down, the enmity abolished, and differing cultures and ethnicities bound together in one new people (Ephesians 2:14-15). The black leaders I ministered with during the civil rights movement shared that conviction."

    • @briansnow8980
      @briansnow8980 9 месяцев назад

      Nothing in that statement affirmed if MLK was a Christian. He was refelecting on his knowledge or support of civil rights.

    • @spinningorb
      @spinningorb 8 месяцев назад +3

      Pastor McCarthur needs to be more concerned about the manifest God-hating activities of his own pastoral staff. Pastor McCarthy has failed in his pastoral duties by subjecting his flock to sick, disgusting acts by his members of his pastoral administration.

    • @cgb2779
      @cgb2779 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@CountachQuattrovalvole ever been on the internet? “Research” abounds.

    • @polemeros
      @polemeros 8 месяцев назад

      And now that we have experienced 70 years of Blacks "set free" and all the tremendous destruction and damage they do, (and it's only getting worse as they are now coddled and canonized) maybe it's time to rethink our judgments of the old Southerners who already knew them up close.

    • @johnnyking2388
      @johnnyking2388 8 месяцев назад +2

      Polemeros you are in need of true salvation through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who was not white but had Darkened color skin living and traveling In and around Israel Jerusalem Jordan& Nazareth every where around the middle east & Asia.. Racism Hate and bigotry has no place in the America. All men & woman no matter what color you are is considered equal...

  • @Greatfalls64
    @Greatfalls64 9 месяцев назад +51

    I believed the same thing about MLK so when I heard John MacArthur say this I definitely agreed with him. I don't think anyone who believes a lie about God and perpetuates that lie is not a true Christian. When you are born again you are led by the Holy Spirit.

  • @stephenhenry5346
    @stephenhenry5346 9 месяцев назад +30

    I admire MacArthur for just saying the truth, as anyone knows being a prominent person, it takes courage to do so.

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 9 месяцев назад

      Waiting on him to tell the truth about the racism and hypocrisy in white evangelicalism.

  • @simplyminded1
    @simplyminded1 9 месяцев назад +30

    Thank you so much for this eloquent discussion! I thoroughly enjoyed how beautifully Virgil and Darrell expressed the truth of the gospel in love and unwavering conviction. Please do more episodes together!💕💕

  • @guardianx1328
    @guardianx1328 9 месяцев назад +12

    I truly appreciate this conversation. I heard about MLK Jr. not being a Christian before, but you guys go in a lot of details. Our society is so quick to elevate people from heroes to saints. There's only one King, Jesus Christ almighty. Thank you Justin. May God continue blessing you as well as your amazing guests.

  • @michaellarusch4317
    @michaellarusch4317 9 месяцев назад +14

    I'm so glad to see all of you together! I love the way each of you handle the truth and the issues facing our day. I've had the joy to meet each of you and love you dearly for the work you and the help you've given me in my walk with Christ. Thankful for y'all!

    • @burkebrewster1205
      @burkebrewster1205 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed wholeheartedly... great dialog .. I needed this gentlemen

  • @BurntBeatz
    @BurntBeatz 9 месяцев назад +38

    It was great meeting you at the Shepherds Conference! Looking forward to watching this video later. God bless you

    • @crackinlackin6189
      @crackinlackin6189 9 месяцев назад +3

      JELOUS!!!!!!!!!

    • @christopherward5256
      @christopherward5256 9 месяцев назад +2

      Like all his videos it’s awesome! Relevant and with substance…

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад +1

      Praise God! My family and I got to meet him at G3!

  • @efremnorwood9708
    @efremnorwood9708 9 месяцев назад +37

    Small world; met Virgil on Fearless with Jason Whitlock and here he is kicking it with Justin Peters.I've followed Justin for 9 or 10 yrs.

    • @JustinPetersMin
      @JustinPetersMin  9 месяцев назад +16

      Virgil is a great guy.

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@JustinPetersMin
      My family and I met both of you down at G3 last September! 5 Solas from Buffalo ❄️❄️❄️❄️

    • @efremnorwood9708
      @efremnorwood9708 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@JustinPetersMin
      He loves the Lord

    • @Praise___YaH
      @Praise___YaH 6 месяцев назад

      @@JustinPetersMin - Here is our True Savior
      HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH”
      YaH is The Heavenly Father
      YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING
      YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins
      YaH was Crucified on an Almond TREE
      Ancient Semitic of Moshe (Moses)
      Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah)
      Isaiah 42:8
      "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.”
      Isaiah 43:11
      “I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.”
      Isaiah 45:5
      “I am YaH, and there is none else.”

  • @l.p.amador2261
    @l.p.amador2261 9 месяцев назад +182

    The world loves the message of MLK because he never preached against sin.

    • @CRoadwarrior
      @CRoadwarrior 9 месяцев назад +8

      That is simply not true. Read Dr. King and not just what some present in part here.

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад +12

      So basically the same reason they love Billy Graham & Joel Osteen.

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 9 месяцев назад +16

      You're right! He didn't preach against sin because he was too busy fighting it on the front lines while putting his body in harms way while other pastors "preached" against it in the comfort of their pulpits.

    • @runwillrobinson
      @runwillrobinson 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@baylockbuckingham3650 Or maybe it was because he was rolling in it, even the night before he was assassinated.

    • @mlwilson2956
      @mlwilson2956 9 месяцев назад

      ​@baylockbuckingham3650 what "sin" was MLK fighting? He was a Jesse Jackson style race hustler who has been memorialized because he was killed.

  • @shanks4391
    @shanks4391 9 месяцев назад +30

    Thoroughly enjoyed this. Very eye opening and important. GOD bless you brothers ❤

  • @lizlane7278
    @lizlane7278 9 месяцев назад +161

    Stopped reading Christianity Today years ago because of their support to social justice issues.

    • @jrr570
      @jrr570 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yep.

    • @fabbrofamily7038
      @fabbrofamily7038 9 месяцев назад +1

      i see that now! nor will
      i, ss s 39 month believer thx 💡🧂

    • @GenericYoutubeGuy
      @GenericYoutubeGuy 9 месяцев назад +2

      Stopped reading?! I don’t get it lol

    • @BurningRumpleForeskin
      @BurningRumpleForeskin 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@GenericRUclipsGuysome lukewarm periodical, bringing reproach to His Name in many ways. the magazine is "Christianity Today"

    • @blackrosepetals-w7r
      @blackrosepetals-w7r 9 месяцев назад +7

      What is wrong with supporting social issues?

  • @COOL_CAT-zt4ef
    @COOL_CAT-zt4ef 9 месяцев назад +78

    This is not a black thing or a race thing it’s simply Biblical thing

    • @NITA-iy1kx
      @NITA-iy1kx 9 месяцев назад

      👁 FLOATERS
      YES, IT IS! ARE YOU READING? FOLLOWING ALONG?;IT IS EXACTLY THAT! A BIBLICAL THING... BAH HUMBUG.

  • @darleneminix-tracey3712
    @darleneminix-tracey3712 9 месяцев назад +12

    Thank you, Justin, for this excellent interview, and thank you for introducing us to these dear brothers in Christ! I appreciate the hard work you all do, and I thank you for defending Gospel truth! God bless you! ❤️🙏❤️

    • @sharonf3321
      @sharonf3321 9 месяцев назад +1

      Amen. So excellent!

  • @mseevee3458
    @mseevee3458 9 месяцев назад +8

    27:40 Thank you so much. I have come across many churches and youtube preachers that deep in my heart felt wrong but I couldn't quite put my finger on why. But you explained it perfectly. Thank you.

  • @csauders7047
    @csauders7047 9 месяцев назад +13

    All three of you I admire and respect. Thank you for always speaking truth. 💓 I am blessed to hear you exegete the Word.

  • @Yesica1993
    @Yesica1993 9 месяцев назад +19

    53:07 I'd love to read the history of black slave owners. Also the Africans who sold their own people. But I would have to be in the right frame of mind for it. That stuff is so depressing. People do such horrific things to one another. That's why the biblical worldview is that we are ALL sinners, no matter what our skin tone!

  • @betty8173
    @betty8173 9 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent, thank you! So well done, it was a pleasure to hear. God bless you all.

  • @Robert-p2s7p
    @Robert-p2s7p 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you gentlemen for speaking truth in the face of doctrinal error, fallacy and heresy! So enlightening!

  • @benmig5037
    @benmig5037 9 месяцев назад +3

    I love seeing my brothers standing on what is true for cause of Christ! I love and pray for all three of you!

  • @mrs.c.2408
    @mrs.c.2408 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dr. McArthur is blessed to have you men stand up for him and we are all more knowledgeable for the time and effort you’ve taken to expose truth.

  • @ellapittman9494
    @ellapittman9494 9 месяцев назад +12

    Blessings teacher justin peters!! This is very powerful information to me...thank you teacher 👏...as always my prayers are with your family!!!

  • @christopherward5256
    @christopherward5256 9 месяцев назад +7

    Your office is coming along nicely, Brother! This was a great video!

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm happy the little spinny globes are back. I am mesmerized by those things. Mike Winger has one too!

  • @ElizabethMayo-sf4wg
    @ElizabethMayo-sf4wg 9 месяцев назад +6

    This podcast is amazing!!!! I have long thought how could MLK be a Christian by the way he lived. I never knew what was shared on this video about his non-Christian beliefs!!!! Justin, your videos are terrific and I am glad to recommend them. I will also pass along the name of Just Thinking with Virgil Walker and Darrell Harrison. I am so encouraged by these black brothers!! Every nation, tribe, people and language. I love ti share Acts 17:26.Thanks to all of you❤

    • @JustinPetersMin
      @JustinPetersMin  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much, Elizabeth - blessings to you :)

    • @Dnell-tb1yd
      @Dnell-tb1yd 9 месяцев назад

      My challenge to you is, where were the “true” Christians during Jim Crow and Civil Rights era? Were they sitting by helplessly watching racial segregation injustice take place, waiting for God to do something that He had already given them the power to do? It’s easy to criticize MLK what’s more difficult is to find courageous leaders from that era who were not only ready, but willing and able to spearhead a movement. Where were these biblical titans when people were being lynched? Schools and society was segregated? Where were these biblical titans at the founding of the nation, that could’ve easily ensured that slavery and racism weren’t part of the United States from its beginning inception? I know MLK was a demon straight from the pits of Hell, but all of these other people who did nothing or even worse participated and perpetuated injustice should get a pass?

  • @JesusistheonetrueGod
    @JesusistheonetrueGod 9 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you for bringing this up. I need proof and people have been cowardly about this issue.

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 9 месяцев назад +14

    My dad said that society had made MLK, Jr. into an idol - and this was way back in the 1980s. I asked him what he meant, and he simply pointed out that Jesus was the one who died for our sins and so ultimately, was the one who brought healing and reconciliation not just between man and God, but man and man.
    Whatever good King did was nothing in comparison, even if it was greater than what other men throughout history had achieved. He also didn’t think it was right to turn a blind eye to King’s faults, which I never learned in public school. I think the CT article shows quite plainly King is still an idol.

    • @Rachel-y3n
      @Rachel-y3n 8 месяцев назад

      In the fifth century Africans & Portuguese sold off as slaves some of their own people & Africa gifted Angola to the Portuguese for joining forces to sell people as slaves! Lucrative business deals!?! ( shameful - Money root of all evil!!)

  • @sherrischroeder3217
    @sherrischroeder3217 9 месяцев назад +63

    I think we see plenty of people who go by “preacher or reverend “ and they are anything but Christian. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton come to mind.

    • @kittyhawk7060
      @kittyhawk7060 9 месяцев назад +6

      There are only three persons that deserve to be called Reverend. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are to be revered.

    • @MichaelForte-jn5pn
      @MichaelForte-jn5pn 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kittyhawk7060amen to that

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад +7

      You can also throw in Osteen, Copeland, Robertson, Jakes, Dollar, Bakker, Duplantis, Wommack, Hinn, Stanley, McLaren, Campolo, Meyer, Moore, & Graham (Yes, Billy Graham was a false teacher).

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 9 месяцев назад +7

      How about Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell? They come to mind too...

    • @gigiis526
      @gigiis526 9 месяцев назад

      @@baylockbuckingham3650 Are they known for their political activism? NO!

  • @Saghorse1978
    @Saghorse1978 9 месяцев назад +85

    When I was in college 20 years ago, I brought up the name "Dr. King" with my professor, and HE WENT INTO A TIRADE about how MLK actually had NO DOCTORATE degree AT ALL, and how MLK, on many occasions, engaged in orgies between his travels and his speeches. I've never forgotten it.

    • @629lrogers
      @629lrogers 9 месяцев назад +18

      You should have asked your teacher to show you the proof

    • @Fern_Thaddeus
      @Fern_Thaddeus 9 месяцев назад +10

      Yes… just because a teacher says so, doesn’t mean it is so. We carry that even into our Christian “testing”, we must be careful…

    • @shelbysittig1047
      @shelbysittig1047 9 месяцев назад

      @@629lrogersour 3 letter agencies have the proof not to mention the women that engaged in those orgies. Many of them were white. He was for abortion. Gee I wonder why. 🤔

    • @kittyhawk7060
      @kittyhawk7060 9 месяцев назад

      @@629lrogersI have four earned degrees. I earned my doctorate. King did not have an earned doctorate. This is a well known fact. Don't be lazy. Do a Google search. The proof is easy to find.

    • @sabot19691974
      @sabot19691974 9 месяцев назад +18

      Your teacher was correct and there is plenty of "proof".

  • @rosemaryrojahn584
    @rosemaryrojahn584 9 месяцев назад +2

    I am so glad to see these brothers in Christ tackling this issue. I love these men. It takes integrity and courage to speak truth. May the Lord bless you all.

  • @christopherward5256
    @christopherward5256 9 месяцев назад +21

    Denying the deity of Jesus is BLASPHEMOUS!!!!

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 8 месяцев назад

      So is slandering a man that died to make America a better place to gain notoriety.

  • @shelbysittig1047
    @shelbysittig1047 9 месяцев назад +7

    Brother Virgil! Good to see you outside of Fearless.

  • @darlenedunlap6693
    @darlenedunlap6693 9 месяцев назад +8

    I don’t know much about King other than he was incredibly instrumental in bringing equality to the people of color for his and future generations. I’ve always heard he was a Christian pastor. You well informed brothers have opened my eyes. Thank you. God bless.

    • @JustinPetersMin
      @JustinPetersMin  9 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you so much, Darlene - blessings to you.

    • @MichaelCTruth
      @MichaelCTruth 9 месяцев назад +1

      Do some research. Many would say otherwise.

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz 9 месяцев назад +2

    This was a great discussion! I learned a lot! Thank you gentlemen and may God greatly bless you all!

  • @ryanwiersema7251
    @ryanwiersema7251 9 месяцев назад +3

    Appreciated this very much. Great discussion between brothers in Christ!

  • @tisha1322
    @tisha1322 2 месяца назад +2

    Woooow! This was enlightening and heartbreaking. The sad part is that many people of color will reject this truth just to stand behind MLK's legacy, which was clearly tainted. I think every adult needs to watch this and read those sources cited in this video. Thank you for sharing! I ordered the book from Ralph Albernathy! Wow!

  • @tannermcginn7330
    @tannermcginn7330 9 месяцев назад +3

    This was great. The Just(in Peters) Thinking Podcast!

  • @burkebrewster1205
    @burkebrewster1205 9 месяцев назад +2

    Such great dialogue... all of you are a breath of fresh air.

  • @JamesEverhart-jy1ri
    @JamesEverhart-jy1ri 9 месяцев назад +5

    I agree with you, 3 guys. I listen to the G3 podcast weekly, and I came across Darrell on RUclips. Justin Peters Ministries I have been watching your videos for the last 4 years. Praise God that you 3 are stating the obvious

  • @tonyvalentine2944
    @tonyvalentine2944 9 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent and needed discussion.

  • @blindvision4703
    @blindvision4703 9 месяцев назад +6

    2:53 To paraphrase a line from the Kendricks Brothers movie Fireproofed: we Christians may all be brothers from different mothers, but now we all have the same Father. Amen.

  • @jbrise7560
    @jbrise7560 9 месяцев назад +1

    Really good information! I have never even researched the topic. I simply took for granted he was a “good” preacher. Good to know. Thank you brothers in Christ!

  • @jrr570
    @jrr570 9 месяцев назад +7

    Good talk. Really enjoyed it. Thanks!❤

  • @MarkRogersVOCFB
    @MarkRogersVOCFB 8 месяцев назад +1

    These two gentlemen are incredibly informed, measured and sound in the teachings of Christ and biblical doctrine.

  • @fizzlemousse
    @fizzlemousse 9 месяцев назад +3

    I can't believe anyone would accuse Dr. McArthur of slander or anything contrary to The Holy Word of God. Thank you Justin, Darryl and Virgil for making this video.

  • @mikefarrant6880
    @mikefarrant6880 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow awesome talk my eyes were opened I’m uneducated and the way these gentleman layed it out I totally got it thank u god bless

  • @anitasmith203
    @anitasmith203 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thoroughly enjoyed this brotherly exchange of a sad but true subject. If Christ has not been raised, we Christians of all people should be most pitied, the Apostle Paul. But thanks be to our God and Saviour Christ Jesus He has died and rose again and is sitting at the right had of the Father and He shall return to the earth❤.

  • @wesleyadams6108
    @wesleyadams6108 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks that you guys are having this conversation

  • @elvirewebster8800
    @elvirewebster8800 9 месяцев назад +5

    God will use anyone to bring His word to pass. He raised up Pharaoh,and every human being on this earth. I respect him as someone who died standing for true equality and justice which the church itself has caused. I leave true justice and Truth to The One and only God.🙏🏾🙏🙏🏽🙏🏼.

    • @TerenceEbaiAgbor
      @TerenceEbaiAgbor 5 месяцев назад

      They failed to understand this

    • @TerenceEbaiAgbor
      @TerenceEbaiAgbor 5 месяцев назад

      Men have now become Christ that are judging who is righteous and who is unrighteous, as MLK was not supposed to be honoured along side RC Sproul

    • @TerenceEbaiAgbor
      @TerenceEbaiAgbor 5 месяцев назад

      MLK misunderstood the gospel, so the gospel is to do a TV show for over an hour condemning a man??

    • @TerenceEbaiAgbor
      @TerenceEbaiAgbor 5 месяцев назад

      So how could Billy Graham invite an immoral or a non Christian or a deceiver to pray in his crusade??

  • @cherylpulaski3543
    @cherylpulaski3543 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was an awesome discussion! Very insightful ❤

  • @csauders7047
    @csauders7047 9 месяцев назад +7

    I’m so sad I wasn’t given the whole truth growing up. I was led to believe something so different about MLK.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 9 месяцев назад +1

      Many of us were! I am 50+ and had never heard any of this stuff until the Just Thinking podcast that brothers Virgil & Darrell did a few years ago that covered much of the material here. I sat there, shocked. I was lied to my whole life life.

    • @wanda520
      @wanda520 9 месяцев назад

      So many lies have been told the public concerning many historical events. Some call it” spin”. How many funerals depict the deceased as a perfect person while they were far from perfect?

  • @marthamoore7474
    @marthamoore7474 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Brother Justin for your diligence in showing us what a true Christian is 🙏

  • @angelacrutcher2308
    @angelacrutcher2308 9 месяцев назад +3

    All have sinned and we all are capable of sinning and God knows who truly belongs to Him its not us to say if a person is saved or not we doint know before this man died what relationship king had with God on that last night before his death we doint know but God knows all of our hearts no matter how good we think we are no matter how self righteous we think we are only God knows our true hearts and motives.

  • @user-nf9jz7ex8b
    @user-nf9jz7ex8b 9 месяцев назад

    Great discussion, great teaching. Thank you Justin, Virgil and Darrell 🙏❤️

  • @NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
    @NicholasproclaimerofMessiah 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'm glad when TGC show themselves to be unchristian. It helps to clarify things for believers who may otherwise be confused. Unbelievers don't get the clarity, of course, and perhaps not all believers do, but, overall, it's helpful for TGC to be openly unchristian.

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад

      They’re no good, for sure. (Their “please forgive me for being white” garbage).
      Mark and avoid.

  • @timothycaldwell-y3w
    @timothycaldwell-y3w 9 месяцев назад

    These two are very good at what they do.. the podcast has so much information as a truck driver it took me a few weeks to get threw all of there episodes.. but it’s well worth it.. Justin is on point as always and it’s such hugh blessing when men of God come together to educate on what it means to follow Christ

  • @LuigiDiBenedetto-u5n
    @LuigiDiBenedetto-u5n 9 месяцев назад +10

    My good works is the result of my salvation not my salvation is not the result of my good works

    • @davesawe5346
      @davesawe5346 9 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly. I don't understand why that's so hard to understand by many

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад

      Amen and 5 Solas from Buffalo! ❄️❄️❄️

  • @amandahuntsman9276
    @amandahuntsman9276 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow such a great video!! God bless all of you for speaking boldly the truth!❤🙏

  • @sarahhurst701
    @sarahhurst701 9 месяцев назад +3

    God bless you greatly, Brother Peters.🌹💜❤️🌍

  • @craig3540
    @craig3540 9 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome podcast, Justin! Thank you for your work for the Kingdom of the One True God!

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock 9 месяцев назад +10

    Gotta love these guys. Good discussion.

  • @The1SilverShadow
    @The1SilverShadow 9 месяцев назад +2

    52:28 this is exceptionally important to me, because I have struggled with family members and friends over the insignificance of hue and melanin where theology is concerned, finally I have a phrase I can use [Melanin Idolatry]; I have never revered King, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey etc in any part of my life; now at 53 yrs of my being Black British; albeit, being persecuted for not holding fast to idolising a bunch of political freedom fighters... Christ had set me free and I am free indeed

  • @tonycopeland5809
    @tonycopeland5809 9 месяцев назад +6

    I just watched Virgil's video about MLK a few weeks ago. I had no idea.

  • @Lanibluv
    @Lanibluv 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, I found this so insightful. Thank you Minister Peters for having this conversation and sharing it with us. Thank you to Darrell & Virgil as well. I believe the pushback from many has to do with a lack of knowledge, and I include myself in that number, growing up not only in the Baptist Church, but also in my schooling even into college Martin Luther King jr. was always portrayed as a Christian. Sermon clips, that I’ve heard, I am not sure if they deliberately left out these things that he has said that clearly go against what we know as the truth of scripture or if it is more of what Darrell stated in that in a lot of black churches, because there is not expository preaching if someone heard these things coming from Martin Luther King‘s own lips would not be able to decipher what he meant(possible I had heard in youth and did not know) or even possibly overlooked it if they felt a little uneasy about it because of all the work that he had done for social justice and our people. I admit initially hearing the clip of Pastor McArthur made my heart race a little, and there was an offended initial reaction, but again it was due to a lack of knowledge, and not knowing that this was the position that Martin Luther King Jr. stood on. Though this may be a hurtful revelation to come to, I am so grateful to have understanding now. God Bless you all…may we all continue to grow and press onward in the full knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

  • @cecilthornton9272
    @cecilthornton9272 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for the information that y'all shared about Dr.Martin Luther King and a lot of this l definitely didn't know about at all.Also thank you for enlighten me on the issues at hand here;)

    • @blueeyesftlaud6593
      @blueeyesftlaud6593 9 месяцев назад +1

      Me either..

    • @kittyhawk7060
      @kittyhawk7060 9 месяцев назад

      Did you notice they did not call MLK doctor? That is because he did not earn a doctorate.

  • @themamachar
    @themamachar 9 месяцев назад +2

    Isn’t it just great that John M. Can read people’s hearts. He knows all things. So many Christians today can read peoples hearts. Isn’t that amazing. I wonder what the Lord says about that.

  • @anabellesabangan7565
    @anabellesabangan7565 9 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. John MacArthur , Dr. RC Sproul, Dr. Erwin Lutzer are great titans of Christianity of the modern day.

  • @ghayes220
    @ghayes220 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent podcast. Backed by empirical evidence. I often watch Virgil on Fearless, Wednesday evenings. Keep up the great work.

  • @Yesica1993
    @Yesica1993 9 месяцев назад +8

    MLK's personal life should also be examined.

  • @caroliner2029
    @caroliner2029 5 месяцев назад

    A very interesting and informative discussion, thank you gentlemen.
    Your insights on further topics of discussion would be appreciated.
    Listening from Australia.

  • @Marlene-c6u
    @Marlene-c6u 9 месяцев назад +8

    Very informative....Already knew MLK was not a christian by his testimony... Thank you for making us aware of people who want to keep a legend alive... Bugsy

  • @tinamariejohnson7520
    @tinamariejohnson7520 9 месяцев назад +4

    Brother you should go follow a brother named Chad O Jackson, and his documentaries “UncleTom I & II.” Both Daryl and Virgil were featured in UncleTom II, along with Voddie Baucham. Chad is doing an amazing job at challenging the church, Black community, and culture.

  • @taragoodman4246
    @taragoodman4246 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have not heard any of this information on MLK before. My mind is blown. You have given me much to think about.

  • @nberrios777
    @nberrios777 9 месяцев назад +8

    No, he wasn’t. Everyone knows he cheated on his wife regularly.

  • @magicalsasi
    @magicalsasi 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for coming up this issue and making things clear as crystal. I am from India and in my country too we have almost same kind of issue with Late Dr BR Ambekar, whom some Christians don't hesitate gloryfing.

  • @anotherdayatthefeast8100
    @anotherdayatthefeast8100 9 месяцев назад +18

    Glory to God; John MacArthur is shaking things up with the idol worshipers

    • @wanda520
      @wanda520 9 месяцев назад

      He wants to finish strong! He will preach as long as he has breath.

  • @irdue
    @irdue 9 месяцев назад +2

    I am from Atlanta and can say many I know from the area almost seem to worship Dr. King. After becoming a believer this began to distrubed me! The enemy of all our souls is crafty! I am appreciative of Dr. King's good works! I think he is deserving of honor for these good works! I can't see how denying the devinity of Jesus comports with being a redeemed follower of Christ, not to mention denying the virgin birth. There are many Churches in the Atlanta area that do not teach or preach a confused Gospel. Seek one out if you are from the area. The most solid Churches in the area tend to not be on TV, are smaller in size, and generally (but not always) have a mixed congregation. I might add they probably have a verse by verse, chapter by chapter preaching style. They probably don't have the pastor's face plastered everywhere. That seems to be a good clue who is being worshiped there. Unfortunately, "Church" for many has become a business. Look at their fruits! Is what they are teaching in agreement with scripture? Begin with the Gospel they are teaching. That is the most important thing! By the way, Jesus Christ is the Gospel. The Gospel is greater than a story.

  • @JesusSaves294
    @JesusSaves294 9 месяцев назад +16

    Justin, may I ask if you still support Casey Butner with all the recent news that's come out exposing him, particularly on Beyond the Fundaments channel?

  • @ajwerth7558
    @ajwerth7558 9 месяцев назад

    So informative and helpful. Sad that so few people will care, but you gentlemen are so correct to point out that we will make every allowance for our idols.

  • @jamesheath1025
    @jamesheath1025 9 месяцев назад +3

    The word of God says if anyone preach another gospel, Paul said, an angel from Heaven or anyone let him be accused.
    Cannot be any clearer than that.
    Word says, In all your getting get an understanding. Amen!!!

  • @TruthLivesNow
    @TruthLivesNow 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is Pastor MacArthur’s Gift, the ability to proclaim who is saved and who is not.

    • @baylockbuckingham3650
      @baylockbuckingham3650 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah it’s called self righteousness

    • @mauricemckinney4868
      @mauricemckinney4868 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, who made him God.

    • @stephenbiggins9114
      @stephenbiggins9114 Месяц назад

      By their fruits you shall know them. Anyone who denies the diety of Christ is NOT a Christian, not Saved.

  • @JamesEverhart-jy1ri
    @JamesEverhart-jy1ri 9 месяцев назад +9

    One thing everybody will agree with is that John Macarthur doesn't have an infantile understanding of the Scriptures

  • @claireusilton4066
    @claireusilton4066 9 месяцев назад

    It is so wonderful to hear such knowledgeable, biblically sound men explain this issue intelligently. Something that is woefully lacking in society these days. Thank you.

  • @robertsisk5824
    @robertsisk5824 9 месяцев назад +3

    So good. Thank you.

  • @JacquelineFrankneeKenyon
    @JacquelineFrankneeKenyon 9 месяцев назад +2

    When I first heard about MLK years ago I thought it was lies tribal gaslighting. As I know people are wicked enough to do that like they did to Michael Jackson and trials I am going through myself. However, before I could calm down and listen as I was heartbroken. I realise that the fact remains MLK is not a Christian sadly. I appreciate that these two gentlemen who have studied/researched about MLK and its not just ear say. Thank you for sharing this and God bless you all 🙏🏾💜

  • @tjrizzo1619
    @tjrizzo1619 9 месяцев назад +4

    So many nowadays call themselves Christians and they’re the worst of themselves. I don’t know how making fun of cursing and threatening others lives is Christian. I questioned a few about scripture and they cursed me to hell. One lady prayed I never find Jesus. One of them told me I got a porn addiction. Another rebuked me. I think that’s the first time in my life I got rebuked. Why so much hate from people that claim to be for Jesus Christ? It pushes me away from Christianity.

    • @fabbrofamily7038
      @fabbrofamily7038 9 месяцев назад

      dont be discouraged! its s sign of the last days of endtimes! get yourself into a better church maybe? it's a rarity too. but follow prs. jdfarag, rock harbour church, tom hughs, james kaddis ... sll excellent pastors who understand endtimes bible prophecy !
      l tim3 seems to reflect those ppl you say. once you get to know some bible prophecy these ppl will
      make sense to you & the bible says from such ppl turn away ! l tim3:5 hold strong , jesus is going to snatch us home soon enough☝🏼💕🧂💡in a twinkling of an eye
      l cor l5: 50 to 58

    • @jknga5869
      @jknga5869 9 месяцев назад

      This is part of Satan's plan, to push you away from the Gospel. I pray that the Holy Spirit would protect and keep you .

    • @krzmama1
      @krzmama1 9 месяцев назад

      You are correct to say that there are many so-called Christians. That is why we can't follow people and can only rely on the Word of God. I live in an area full of churches similar to what you describe. Not knowing the context of your interactions, I can't speak to what they said to you, but I CAN encourage you to seek truth through the Word of God and prayer. If you are having trouble finding a church with solid teaching, just keep listening to excellent teaching from teachers like John Macarthur and Justin Peters until you do. Look to Christ as your example and NOT people. I let myself be discouraged and traumatized by the witness of the modern day "church," that I stayed out of fellowship for years. That is what Satan wants. Keeps your eyes fixed on Jesus and He will guide you. I am saying a prayer for you. Love and Blessings to you 🙏

    • @tjrizzo1619
      @tjrizzo1619 9 месяцев назад

      @@krzmama1 thank you

  • @starr76
    @starr76 9 месяцев назад +2

    Your guests were awesome.

  • @truthandtheory9278
    @truthandtheory9278 9 месяцев назад +3

    I am not a calvinist. But I do understand why people are. I do know that no matter who you are, if you die in your sin without believing that Christ died on the cross and was ressurrected on the 3rd day and defeated death once and for all, then you will perish in eternal hellfire. These labels that people use to describe their doctrines and theologies are no more than that. If you believe the forementioned gospel then you are saved. All of the nuisances of the faith will be settled on the other side of this life. What is important is your fundamental belief that the scripture is sufficient, holy, and the final speaking of the lord. Calvinist, Armenian, Lutheran, Baptist, it doesn't matter as long as you believe the one and only gospel wholeheartedly.

  • @raymondhinton2688
    @raymondhinton2688 9 месяцев назад

    Justin, Virgil, and Darrell: Thank you for proclaiming the truth Gospel so clearly and shedding light on what Dr. King really believed.

  • @TheElizabethashby
    @TheElizabethashby 9 месяцев назад +10

    READ BILLY GRAHAM AND HIS FREINDS BY CATHY BURNS A GREAT TRUE EYE OPENER

    • @toolegittoquit_001
      @toolegittoquit_001 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah, Graham is not who everyone believes he was 😢

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 9 месяцев назад

      @@toolegittoquit_001
      That is something that “senior saints” will fight to the death over. They think Graham was the second coming of Christ.