@@saulboulanger9172 Me too. my guess the battle of Winterfell might end up a Pyrrhic victory for the living. Best guess 75-90% casualties and most or all the remaining major characters dead. Still, i holding on to hope for a win
@@sargentshadow haha you're more optimistic than I am then. I'm guessing most of the main characters (and people in general) are going to die and it's going to turn into a retreat, with Winterfell falling to the dead and what's left of the living planning their next move.
The fact that there is a pause, and then you don't hear any sound as the Orcs release their arrows, then you cut to blood dripping from Denethor's mouth is called A++ cinematography.
Pippin: "We have no songs for great halls and evil times" Also Pippin: Drops one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs of all time. I have to agree with Denethor on this one, his song was definitely not unfit for his halls.
The edge of night is supposed to be a hobbit hiking song. So Tolkien probably had in mind a much more uptempo and happy melody that actually would be unfit for the circumstances. Although it could be explained that Pippin changed the melody to a song he knew the lyrics of.
I just found out Billy Boyd (Pippin) actually wrote the melody to this song and the lyrics are based on one of Tolkien's poems. Billy is an absolute legend for making this scene happen.
So you probably don't know that all those high kicks he did while dancing with Merry on the table in RotK was inspired by his then girlfriend, now wife, who is a dancer.
I agree!! I was 5.. yes 5 years old, when I first saw LOTR. Me and my dad were obsessed with them! I was lucky enough to see the last two movies in the theatre with him on their opening weekends, and man what an experience it was! True definition of an epic movie; made me feel like I was right there in the action!
I like this version much better than the mp3 version. The sound of hooves and arrows, gives the song that certain something feeling... until you hear Denethors disgusting smacking again. Rude
For me this was the most powerful scene in RotK; perhaps even the entire trilogy. Billy Boyd's voice is incredible and this adaptation of Tolkien's "A Walking Song" thats more of a trekking ballad about going out on an adventure, experiencing the wonders and thrills and returning home to a far more saddening version about going to your death on a kind of 'one way journey' that mirrors what Faramir has been ordered to do as well as Frodo's quest really makes you sympathize with what has happened to these characters and feel the same grief and dread that they feel on a regular basis. The imagery and visual and sound editing are spot on, having all other voices but Pippin's muted only hearing his singing and the sounds of battle and Denethor's horrid manners to deepen the audiences disdain for his character while simultaneously exemplifying Faramir's deepest desire to gain the love and admiration of his father and is prepared to do anything to get it, even die on a suicide mission. AND it shows how Pippin at his core cares most about his friends and comrades and (later) is wanting to do anything he can to help them achieve victory, he bursts into tears knowing that he may lose those close to him and even friends or peers he just met; he chooses this song to commemorate the sacrifice other's are making to save the world as they know it and as a nod to the task they have been assigned. Peter Jackson truly is an ingenious director.
Ditto - Well Said! I think it is the greatest scene in Cinema History! Because The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy is the Greatest "Film" in Cinematic History! My Experience: This is a brilliant scene. The Visual: Denethor eating like a beast; the void & vacant icy stare, the breaking of bones, the "blood" dripping down his mouth, almost animalistic. Contrast to Pippin's deep sorrow, the lament, all other sound pulled out; muffled sound of horses galloping into a suicide battle, the release of orc arrows - no sound, just bones breaking, slurping of running "blood", predatory violent sounds against the bittersweet acapella sadness being Sung. O that scene just overtakes all of one's senses & emotions! Hauntingly Beautiful Song & Scene! Excellence in Every Aspect! A Masterpiece! So nice to be among, chat with Lord Of The Rings Lovers! Take Care! "The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can."
This scene was absolutely perfect, the cinematics, editing, transitions, everything about it just made me so angry and sad. LOTR one of the best trilogies ever created.
Second only to that after all of this, the hobbits immediately charge after Aragorn for Frodo without hesitation towards the end. Best movies ever made.
Home is behind The world ahead And there are many paths to tread Through shadow To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall fade
This scene, oddly enough is one of my favorite. Pippin is singing a mournful song, Denethor is stuffing his face while his son and cavalry are fighting the Orks. Thought provoking and irritating at the same time. Kudos to Billy Boyd and John Noble for excellent performances.
One of the most amazing things about this scene is that the melody was composed by Billy Boyd, the actor for pippin. It just goes to show the talent and dedication of everyone who worked on these films.
Coming back and watching these movies makes me mad that Pete changed the look of the orcs for The Hobbit. I mean look at these gnarly looking bloody Orcs!
10far2many It was his decision. He wanted more dynamic features that makeup couldnt accomplish. For example an overly large mouth or eyes is the wrong place.
Jameson Grilley Ah I see. I'm with you though, the original ones looked amazing, especially in comparison. Doing costumes and makeup and all that actually made them look more unsettling since they're not as obviously fake. They may have dynamic features, but it looks so much better and more believable when you see a real person fighting and interacting with something else that's real. Plus the original ones looked damned mean. I'm just surprised it was Peter who changed it for the Hobbit.
Yeah his fondness of cg is one I'll never understand. I believe it was the same interview that he said that about the Orcs he also said if he had had the budget for it back when he did Fellowship he would have made the ring wraiths cg.
This is the exact moment when the Pippin that blew Frodo's cover in Bree, alerted the goblins in Moria and fucked around with the Palantir was finally laid to rest and adult Pippin came into his own.
Tolkien always insisted that his works were not a metaphor or allegory for real events, fearing it would cheapen the depth of the fantasy. Yet knowing this also happened in the book, I cannot see it as nothing more than a reflection of the horror he saw in WW1, as valiant men charged to their inevitable deaths. All at the hands of power hungry middlemen who were desperate to make a show of force to seem strong. Then again, Tolkien said it was never a metaphor but still.
You can still see it that way. Tolkien never said he doesn't want his work to be interpreted, he just doesn't want us to think he intended it any specific way.
There are many reflections of reality in fiction, much like inkblot tests and abstract art. The main thing is for a basic truth not to be mired in the specifics of any reality. The things most real and true cannot be escaped.
@@baguettegott3409 I actually doubt that is what Tolkien meant. It seemingly had nothing to do with things like death of the author, more the fact that the story is not an allegory for what happened or what was happening. The story also does have a concrete meaning that isn't really open to interpretation on a greater level, though. This isn't to say that the horror of the trenches didn't inspire certain parts of the book, as it clearly did, and the fact that most countries were actually dictatorships and autocracies in the early-mid 20th Century probably inspred his depictions of Orthanc and Mordor.
I think we should take that to mean that the LotR is not an allegory for the first world war, or the battle of the Somme. What it says about war applies to every war, not just the one Tolkien lived personally. I think this scene works on many gut wrenching layers. The mad Denethor being vengeful towards his own son, sending him to his death, the very obvious symbol of cutting to his mouth with the tomato juice looking like blood immediately after the orcs shoot their arrows, the loyal son charging in following the orders, even tho he knows he is going to die, Pippin singing what was a cheery hobbit song about going on an adventure as basically a mourning song for Faramir, which parallels how the happy and cheery everymen that the hobbits are are being ripped into the horrors of war. And I didn't even mention the hauntingly beautiful singing. There cannot be perfect movies. I don't think there are any perfect scenes, but this is damn close.
Denethor was a product of his time. He witnessed the inevitable failure and downfall of Gondor. He was desperate - so, in a moment of weakness and disappointment, sent his valorous son to certain death. Later when it hits him, he pays the price.
@@aredub1847 im not sure it corrupted him, i think he managed to master the palantir but what he saw made him desperate after he got a look at the armies massing inside mordor. not to mention by this scene, he had just lost his favourite son on a quest set out by his least favourite son., then was apparently betrayed by his least favourite son. he was desperate , a man on the edge. corruption via palantir would probably be more akin to what happened to saruman.
One word: producers It's a more complicated mess than that, to be fair, but had Peter Jackson been brought in from the beginning and given the ability to make the movie his way, the Hobbit wouldn't have been what it was. Unfortunately, bean counters thought it was a good idea to make artistic decisions.
@@Aldrnarii compared to GoT Lotr will look like a Happy end. Because at the end there were characters who were happy and the right one sits on the throne. By GoT the dead dominates and everything will go down i suppose😅
Very good scene indeed. While lord of the rings was much better, you have to admit the hobbit is still much better than half the movies made today. I wish they put as much effort in the hobbit as they did lotr, but I'm content with there being more movies made in this universe than just the lotr trilogy. I found the hobbit a good watch. I think people just hate on it because of the expectations and nostalgia from lotr.
I was assigned to write an essay for part of an AS Media Studies course to de-construct all the elements of this scene- the editing, the cinematography, the sound, the "mis-en-scene", the lot... Best. assignment. ever.
The cinematography is perfect in this scene is perfect. Denethor's loud chewing symbolizing the horses' gallops, the breaking of the chicken wing symbolizing the death of the Gondorian soldiers, and the tomato leaking out of Denethor's mouth symbolizing the fact that Faramir's blood is on his hands. Chills.
This one of the most touching scenes in all of movie history. Screw you notebook, titanic, Marley and me, or whatever "sad" movie Hollywood can conjure up. THIS is moving.
The absolute best part of this scene is the fact that Billy Boyd came up with how this song would be sung on his own and everyone was floored. When I learned that in the behind the scenes of the extended version, it blew my mind
This scene always gives me huge goosebumps--the lyrics are simple, amazing, very tender and melancholy, and that coupled with Faramir's final sacrifice for a father who never loved him moves me beyond words.
I really don't think anyone is ever gonna make a film comparable to The Lord of the Rings. It ranks right up there with Citizen Kane, Star Wars, Taxi Driver, The Shawshank Redemption, and Schindler's List.
Pippin is actually singing one of Bilbo's old songs from the books. It was originally a happy song about coming home after a long day of walking. The fact that Pippin chose to sing it here brings new meaning to the scene...
For anyone who doesn’t know, Billy Boyd actually came up with the song last minute before they started shooting the sequence. He said he wanted it to have a Celtic feel.
@@Amonny how the fq do avengers and frozen have the same target audience? one is aimed at males over 14 and the other is aimed at females under 14 theyre not remotely similar demographics.
If anyone and I mean anyone heard the idea that Pippin was gonna sing to Denethor while Faramir and the knights of Gondor ride to their death, they would have thought the writers were smoking crack. Hats off to Peter Jackson man. What a fucking legend!
hi, big irish culture nerd here! it's cool to tell that what Pippin's doing here is evocative of sean-nós singing. its a sort of moody, nostalgic, highly decorative type of folk singing that's supposed to go unaccompanied by instruments, just the voice and the emotions they bring to it. typically if someone starts up with a sean-nós number you're supposed to go quiet and let the singer feel their feelings through it... which in that context makes Denethor's sloppy eating all the ruder, haha
This scene was marvelous, it combined the cavalry charge with Denethor eating. Just like how the Orc in Osgiliath would swallow the small force of Faramir
@@alejandromerlo4708 I mean their plan is based on expecting the Night king to comes to the gods woods so they can fight him there while the people defending winterfell gets butchered, so it's up to the NK and how long they can repel the attack, but personally I don't see any hope * inserts "There's always hope" quote by aragorn*; at least they can flee through the secret passages down in the cripts.
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Denethor popping that tomato in his mouth has haunted me for years lol
It still haunt me after all these years
#NeverForget
Who the fuck eats half a cherry tomato.
That alone should have told Gandalf Denethor was unfit to serve as Steward.
So say we all
I have constant nightmares
Podrick and Pippin are proof that a good song before battle is everything.
Before a very poor outcome of a battle*
At least the good guys won at Minas Tirith. I have a feeling Winterfell will be different
@@saulboulanger9172 Me too. my guess the battle of Winterfell might end up a Pyrrhic victory for the living. Best guess 75-90% casualties and most or all the remaining major characters dead. Still, i holding on to hope for a win
@Bishop Dong Magic Shlong I should say a small hope then.
@@sargentshadow haha you're more optimistic than I am then. I'm guessing most of the main characters (and people in general) are going to die and it's going to turn into a retreat, with Winterfell falling to
the dead and what's left of the living planning their next move.
The fact that there is a pause, and then you don't hear any sound as the Orcs release their arrows, then you cut to blood dripping from Denethor's mouth is called A++ cinematography.
I hate to bust your bubble, but it was a juicy tomato.
But he‘s still right about the cinematography
@@saddleridge4364 Well it's symbolic.
Little late here but u do hear the arrows being shot
You mean editing.
"We have no songs for great halls or.. Evil times"
-Pippin fucking lying through his teeth.
in the books that song is a cheery walking song that the Hobbits use to stay motivated
@@lukelonko4 point for Jackson. This scene is absolutely amazing.
He wasn't lying.
Ya boy freestyled this.
He basically told Denethor he didn't know any songs an asshole like him would like.
Then he sang a funeral song.
Pippin: "We have no songs for great halls and evil times"
Also Pippin: Drops one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs of all time.
I have to agree with Denethor on this one, his song was definitely not unfit for his halls.
More like the hall was unfit for Pippin's song.
I think if i remember denethor ask him if he can sing but he actually didn't sing.
@@zackmartin5210 yup!
Interestingly enough, the lyrics are straight from the books. But Boyd himself wrote the melody in this scene.
The edge of night is supposed to be a hobbit hiking song. So Tolkien probably had in mind a much more uptempo and happy melody that actually would be unfit for the circumstances. Although it could be explained that Pippin changed the melody to a song he knew the lyrics of.
That moment when you realise Pippin cares more than Denethor about Faramir in this scene.
yeah..
+Anakin Skywalker Everyone in Gondor cared about Faramir more than Denethor.
+Anakin Skywalker That moment when you care more about the Empire than your wife... same thing bro
+Anakin Skywalker Well, obviously. It was kinda clearly shown that he hated Faramir
Whovian1029 He is his father, Pippin is someone who knew Faramir only for few days at that moment.
I just found out Billy Boyd (Pippin) actually wrote the melody to this song and the lyrics are based on one of Tolkien's poems. Billy is an absolute legend for making this scene happen.
So you probably don't know that all those high kicks he did while dancing with Merry on the table in RotK was inspired by his then girlfriend, now wife, who is a dancer.
@@kristylewandowski8485 I didn't know that, that's awsome. I love personal touches like that.
To this DONG?!
@@jackthesmoltangerineDong?
@@EterPuralis the unedited comment said dong instead of song
He really has a beatfiul voice.
dude....preach.
Billy Boyd has his own band he’s the lead vocals for called “Beecake”.
Voice of an angel.
Nothing will ever come close to Lord of The Rings Trilogy. I am so happy i got to see these movies in the cinema!
except the books lol
+Jadon Baldwin he said the trilogy he so pack your hipster shit away.
+Aka Imba (Mr Fizzle) its called a joke. I meant no offense, Mr Fizzle. ;) (that's from LOTR)
you are right
I agree!! I was 5.. yes 5 years old, when I first saw LOTR. Me and my dad were obsessed with them! I was lucky enough to see the last two movies in the theatre with him on their opening weekends, and man what an experience it was! True definition of an epic movie; made me feel like I was right there in the action!
I like this version much better than the mp3 version. The sound of hooves and arrows, gives the song that certain something feeling... until you hear Denethors disgusting smacking again. Rude
Well said Father, agree with it is like hearing our ships burn in fire after you commanded to burn them. Same disguist
@how the heck do you pronouce Maedhros i feel your pain
For me this was the most powerful scene in RotK; perhaps even the entire trilogy. Billy Boyd's voice is incredible and this adaptation of Tolkien's "A Walking Song" thats more of a trekking ballad about going out on an adventure, experiencing the wonders and thrills and returning home to a far more saddening version about going to your death on a kind of 'one way journey' that mirrors what Faramir has been ordered to do as well as Frodo's quest really makes you sympathize with what has happened to these characters and feel the same grief and dread that they feel on a regular basis. The imagery and visual and sound editing are spot on, having all other voices but Pippin's muted only hearing his singing and the sounds of battle and Denethor's horrid manners to deepen the audiences disdain for his character while simultaneously exemplifying Faramir's deepest desire to gain the love and admiration of his father and is prepared to do anything to get it, even die on a suicide mission. AND it shows how Pippin at his core cares most about his friends and comrades and (later) is wanting to do anything he can to help them achieve victory, he bursts into tears knowing that he may lose those close to him and even friends or peers he just met; he chooses this song to commemorate the sacrifice other's are making to save the world as they know it and as a nod to the task they have been assigned. Peter Jackson truly is an ingenious director.
Great analysis. You put into words perfectly what elevates the Lord of the Rings above all else for me.
Ditto - Well Said! I think it is the greatest scene in Cinema History! Because The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy is the Greatest "Film" in Cinematic History! My Experience: This is a brilliant scene. The Visual: Denethor eating like a beast; the void & vacant icy stare, the breaking of bones, the "blood" dripping down his mouth, almost animalistic. Contrast to Pippin's deep sorrow, the lament, all other sound pulled out; muffled sound of horses galloping into a suicide battle, the release of orc arrows - no sound, just bones breaking, slurping of running "blood", predatory violent sounds against the bittersweet acapella sadness being Sung. O that scene just overtakes all of one's senses & emotions! Hauntingly Beautiful Song & Scene! Excellence in Every Aspect! A Masterpiece! So nice to be among, chat with Lord Of The Rings Lovers! Take Care!
"The Road goes ever on and on,
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can."
Even more saddening today 😥
@@stormatsunup excellent points to both of you!
Beautifully said. 👍
This scene was absolutely perfect, the cinematics, editing, transitions, everything about it just made me so angry and sad. LOTR one of the best trilogies ever created.
the best*
Hussain Reacts Can't argue with that :)
This is an awesome scene minus King Dickathors eating noises
Steward.
***** He is a steward.
A steward is a man who configures the ranks of soldiers and plans out battles.
Yes, he thinks that Gondor does not need a king, Aragorn will later become the king.
Or read the book. Much better.
Who else got feels from this scene
everyone
LaserPenguins Me
@@DGenerationX1311 straight to the point with facts. I like it.
Yeah nah, got cravings for chicken and cherry tomatoes! 🍒🍗😋
@@pressuremakesdiamonds7417 I actually lost my appetite
"We have no songs for great halls or.. Evil times" Pippin said right before singing the perfect song for great halls and evil times
Who is here after Podrick's song ?
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LOL Yea the start had me i immediatly went here after watching the episode 2 minutes ago XD damn son!
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Mesmerising voice. One of the most powerful scenes in the movie. Thank you.
Second only to that after all of this, the hobbits immediately charge after Aragorn for Frodo without hesitation towards the end. Best movies ever made.
In any movie*
I love the fact that this was the first take they did of this scene and Peter had never heard the song before
Home is behind
The world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade
So few words yet so many meanings
What a genius who wrote this song imma seein him/her
@@reynewdawn its from the books, Tolkien wrote them
Watching the movies, I always think I am emotionally prepared for this scene.
And then I am a sobbing mess on the floor.
Who else came here after hearing "Jenny's Song" by Podrick?
POD VS PIP both great singers...the vibe was very similar
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T@@andy119898 This song gave me more feels though
lol me too
I'll bet it plays again after the battle of winterfell
This scene, oddly enough is one of my favorite. Pippin is singing a mournful song, Denethor is stuffing his face while his son and cavalry are fighting the Orks. Thought provoking and irritating at the same time. Kudos to Billy Boyd and John Noble for excellent performances.
Damn Denethor, do you want to chew any louder?! 😂
Doesn’t matter how many times I watch this scene, it gives me goosebumps every time
*_just came here after watching Game of Thrones because Podrick's song reminds me Pippin_*
Same here 😊
0:56 - the part where he draws his sword. Thats the ultimate money shot right there. Very well done scene
* 0:57 0:56 is just a disgusting shot of some chicken being torn apart between the jaws of the worst man in Middle Earth
Podrick singing reminded me of this. chills.
It was almost certainly intended to, and that bodes ill.
And Eugene from The Walking Dead.
One of the most amazing things about this scene is that the melody was composed by Billy Boyd, the actor for pippin. It just goes to show the talent and dedication of everyone who worked on these films.
Pod singing brought me back to this.
Yes!!!!!!
Same vibe...Similar feels
I was watching that and for some reason this kept playing in my head
SAME! Lotr still the OG
Podrick Payne had a teacher
Tech Freak Game of Thrones, especially last nights dumpster-fire, is awful compared to this
Before the Battle of Winterfell, the song reminded me of this... The Edge of Night. Hope the Living survive
♥ god i just love pippin
you mean Billy Boyd
Song always gives me chills
he's a sweet boy
I may or may not have named one of my chickens after him... Lol
Eh I think merry is better but pippin singing is amazing
10 years later and this song still gives me goosebumps
Coming back and watching these movies makes me mad that Pete changed the look of the orcs for The Hobbit. I mean look at these gnarly looking bloody Orcs!
***** I'd assume more the latter of the two. He may not have even had a say in the matter though, many decisions aren't made by the director.
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It was his decision. He wanted more dynamic features that makeup couldnt accomplish. For example an overly large mouth or eyes is the wrong place.
Jameson Grilley Ah I see. I'm with you though, the original ones looked amazing, especially in comparison. Doing costumes and makeup and all that actually made them look more unsettling since they're not as obviously fake. They may have dynamic features, but it looks so much better and more believable when you see a real person fighting and interacting with something else that's real. Plus the original ones looked damned mean. I'm just surprised it was Peter who changed it for the Hobbit.
Yeah his fondness of cg is one I'll never understand. I believe it was the same interview that he said that about the Orcs he also said if he had had the budget for it back when he did Fellowship he would have made the ring wraiths cg.
Jameson Grilley That would have been terrible. Good god.
Fun fact: When Aragorn kicks the orc helmet a yells, he actually broke his foot. The produces kept it in since it was so good.
Warriorkiller666
Viggo actually broke his toe not his foot but close enough.
This is the exact moment when the Pippin that blew Frodo's cover in Bree, alerted the goblins in Moria and fucked around with the Palantir was finally laid to rest and adult Pippin came into his own.
Tolkien always insisted that his works were not a metaphor or allegory for real events, fearing it would cheapen the depth of the fantasy. Yet knowing this also happened in the book, I cannot see it as nothing more than a reflection of the horror he saw in WW1, as valiant men charged to their inevitable deaths. All at the hands of power hungry middlemen who were desperate to make a show of force to seem strong. Then again, Tolkien said it was never a metaphor but still.
You can still see it that way. Tolkien never said he doesn't want his work to be interpreted, he just doesn't want us to think he intended it any specific way.
It's really more like a simile.
There are many reflections of reality in fiction, much like inkblot tests and abstract art. The main thing is for a basic truth not to be mired in the specifics of any reality. The things most real and true cannot be escaped.
@@baguettegott3409 I actually doubt that is what Tolkien meant. It seemingly had nothing to do with things like death of the author, more the fact that the story is not an allegory for what happened or what was happening. The story also does have a concrete meaning that isn't really open to interpretation on a greater level, though.
This isn't to say that the horror of the trenches didn't inspire certain parts of the book, as it clearly did, and the fact that most countries were actually dictatorships and autocracies in the early-mid 20th Century probably inspred his depictions of Orthanc and Mordor.
I think we should take that to mean that the LotR is not an allegory for the first world war, or the battle of the Somme. What it says about war applies to every war, not just the one Tolkien lived personally.
I think this scene works on many gut wrenching layers. The mad Denethor being vengeful towards his own son, sending him to his death, the very obvious symbol of cutting to his mouth with the tomato juice looking like blood immediately after the orcs shoot their arrows, the loyal son charging in following the orders, even tho he knows he is going to die, Pippin singing what was a cheery hobbit song about going on an adventure as basically a mourning song for Faramir, which parallels how the happy and cheery everymen that the hobbits are are being ripped into the horrors of war. And I didn't even mention the hauntingly beautiful singing.
There cannot be perfect movies. I don't think there are any perfect scenes, but this is damn close.
It disgusts me every time how Denethor acts in this scene. It was greatly portrayed how stubborn and useless he was, though. He deserved his fate.
And the sounds he makes while he eats isn't very Tasty Either.
but you can't deny that the actor did an amazing job.
Denethor was a product of his time. He witnessed the inevitable failure and downfall of Gondor. He was desperate - so, in a moment of weakness and disappointment, sent his valorous son to certain death. Later when it hits him, he pays the price.
no, he started looking into the palintir and was corrupted.
@@aredub1847 im not sure it corrupted him, i think he managed to master the palantir but what he saw made him desperate after he got a look at the armies massing inside mordor. not to mention by this scene, he had just lost his favourite son on a quest set out by his least favourite son., then was apparently betrayed by his least favourite son.
he was desperate , a man on the edge.
corruption via palantir would probably be more akin to what happened to saruman.
I’d argue that this is the greatest scene in the history of cinema.
"we have no songs for great halls and evil times" i love that accent
I cried....I swear I cried like a little kid during this scene...Love LOTR
"And why are your songs unfit for my halls?"
"Because Hobbit songs are drinking songs, have you even read Lord of the rings old man?"
Most effective use of song and sound effects ever.
This is just good film-making. I can't wrap my head around how this is the same guy as the Hobbit movies.
Pieter Steenssens agree... It's a shame. The Hobbit had so much potential... It looked rushed... As if they wanted to get it on cinemas ASAP... :/
One word: producers
It's a more complicated mess than that, to be fair, but had Peter Jackson been brought in from the beginning and given the ability to make the movie his way, the Hobbit wouldn't have been what it was.
Unfortunately, bean counters thought it was a good idea to make artistic decisions.
If you think GOT have the same happy ending as LOTR you still haven't been paying attention.
LotR's does not have a happy ending! The movies don't touch upon it quite as much but, damn, happy is not what I would call it.
@@Aldrnarii compared to GoT Lotr will look like a Happy end. Because at the end there were characters who were happy and the right one sits on the throne.
By GoT the dead dominates and everything will go down i suppose😅
Say that to my plot shield
Yeah, GoT will have a shitty lazy ending
Are you sure?
This scene alone is better than the entirety of the Hobbits
true. it never catched the magic the LOTR movies did.
^Mostly because it was a blatant money-grab.
i wish you were wrong...
Very good scene indeed. While lord of the rings was much better, you have to admit the hobbit is still much better than half the movies made today. I wish they put as much effort in the hobbit as they did lotr, but I'm content with there being more movies made in this universe than just the lotr trilogy. I found the hobbit a good watch. I think people just hate on it because of the expectations and nostalgia from lotr.
TheApostleofRock except the "Misty Mountains" song in the first Hobbit except its more epic than emotional
It's so cool that they used this song for The Battle of The Five Armies trailer.
I was assigned to write an essay for part of an AS Media Studies course to de-construct all the elements of this scene- the editing, the cinematography, the sound, the "mis-en-scene", the lot...
Best. assignment. ever.
he sings beautiful and hes one of my fav caracters in the film!Pippin
Love this scene... so symbolic!! And the comments about Denethor are hilarious! X)
My grandpa used to play these movies so many times when I was little.
RIP, Grandpa.
The cinematography is perfect in this scene is perfect. Denethor's loud chewing symbolizing the horses' gallops, the breaking of the chicken wing symbolizing the death of the Gondorian soldiers, and the tomato leaking out of Denethor's mouth symbolizing the fact that Faramir's blood is on his hands. Chills.
that song is beautiful.
I always get the urge to give him a big hug
Pippin's face @1:47 always gets me...
Game of thrones gives tribute to J rr tolkein by the song jenny of oldstone which is similar to this song ❤️
the feels man, the feels are real
I always cry in this scene :'3 ♥♥
This one of the most touching scenes in all of movie history. Screw you notebook, titanic, Marley and me, or whatever "sad" movie Hollywood can conjure up. THIS is moving.
this is why I love Pippin so much, he's a bit silly and reckless, but he's got a good heart in his chest.
I always think of this scene when I eat those small grape-like tomatoes! lmfao
Alvin Mathew lmao yessss! same
The best scene in TLOTR for me! Well one of the saddest, but also the most touching, there is something about it!
My favourite bit of the song is when Pippin sings "To the edge of night", It just gives me goosebumps every time! Pippins voice is awesome!
The absolute best part of this scene is the fact that Billy Boyd came up with how this song would be sung on his own and everyone was floored. When I learned that in the behind the scenes of the extended version, it blew my mind
ahwww he is so cute and he miss merry thats cute to ♥♥♥
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How wonderful must it be to watch this scene without misophonia.
This scene always gives me huge goosebumps--the lyrics are simple, amazing, very tender and melancholy, and that coupled with Faramir's final sacrifice for a father who never loved him moves me beyond words.
The main theme of Dragon Age Inquisition reminds me a great deal of this.
i think it is a reference for LOTR
The Dawn Will Come?
+MoriyaMug I felt the same :)
Someone should taught Almost-King grumpy some table manners!
Someone should taught you some grammar
Dude, you're assuming he's english. chill
CroCostin I was just making a joke, I'm not even English myself
One of my favorite scenes of all time...
I often forget that these are some of the greatest films ever made.
Podrick fuckin Payne brought me here.
This scene is incredible.
I started weeping before I even clicked the link. There will never be movies like this again.
I really don't think anyone is ever gonna make a film comparable to The Lord of the Rings. It ranks right up there with Citizen Kane, Star Wars, Taxi Driver, The Shawshank Redemption, and Schindler's List.
Someday I will eat like denethor
here after pod's song in GoT s8 e2
Pippin is actually singing one of Bilbo's old songs from the books. It was originally a happy song about coming home after a long day of walking. The fact that Pippin chose to sing it here brings new meaning to the scene...
"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens."
Who is hereafter Podricks singing?
Who came here from Jenny.
For anyone who doesn’t know, Billy Boyd actually came up with the song last minute before they started shooting the sequence. He said he wanted it to have a Celtic feel.
What a wonderfully true voice Mister Took possesses.
Chills every single time. LOTR and The Hobbit movies are by far the best movies. Far surpassing Harry Potter movies.
Totally different styles, and oriented for different ages so can't be even compared. Is like comparing Frozen with The Avengers.
Frozen and The Avengers have quite the same target audience. They are both simplistic and comedic. @@gaboderflinger7854
Amonny In Avengers, people die... there you have it.
@@Amonny how the fq do avengers and frozen have the same target audience? one is aimed at males over 14 and the other is aimed at females under 14
theyre not remotely similar demographics.
I'm a massive Tolkien Fanboy, And Tolkien would hate the Hobbit Trilogy...their not even that good any way.
Used in the first trailer for The Hobbit 3 Battle of the Five Armies! Awesome :)
If anyone and I mean anyone heard the idea that Pippin was gonna sing to Denethor while Faramir and the knights of Gondor ride to their death, they would have thought the writers were smoking crack. Hats off to Peter Jackson man. What a fucking legend!
hi, big irish culture nerd here! it's cool to tell that what Pippin's doing here is evocative of sean-nós singing. its a sort of moody, nostalgic, highly decorative type of folk singing that's supposed to go unaccompanied by instruments, just the voice and the emotions they bring to it.
typically if someone starts up with a sean-nós number you're supposed to go quiet and let the singer feel their feelings through it... which in that context makes Denethor's sloppy eating all the ruder, haha
I love that song
Dragon Age: Inquisition anyone? Just me? Oh, well. :P
yeah
No!
I KNOW! it's the first thing i thought of when i heard the song. "damn, this sounds like Edge of the Night"
i think it is a reference for LOTR.
yeah, same with me !
This scene was marvelous, it combined the cavalry charge with Denethor eating. Just like how the Orc in Osgiliath would swallow the small force of Faramir
Heard this song live by Billy Boyd a few weeks ago and it was so owerwhelming, I had goose bumps
everytime pippin sings it moves me 😉
Who's here after GoT?
I am. The calm before the storm, for shit is about to get real
MEEEEEEEEEEEe
I am, so does this mean that the first battle with the Night King could be like this? I mean complete loss
@@alejandromerlo4708 I mean their plan is based on expecting the Night king to comes to the gods woods so they can fight him there while the people defending winterfell gets butchered, so it's up to the NK and how long they can repel the attack, but personally I don't see any hope * inserts "There's always hope" quote by aragorn*; at least they can flee through the secret passages down in the cripts.
How did you post this 7 hours ago
I'm crying everytime when I'm listening to this.
For me, this whole scene was one of the best put together things in cinema.
Billy’s vocals for this where record at Abby road
Same here.
simply beautiful.
His voice is really pure.