Reaction To Living in Finland (Reality vs Expectations)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @hazeman4755
    @hazeman4755 Год назад +38

    Unless it wasn't clear, Cat is from Finland (her parents live in Inkoo/Ingå as she said in the video) but she lived many years in the UK and moved back to Finland with Dave Cad about 5 years ago.

    • @Gittas-tube
      @Gittas-tube Год назад +5

      Hello there! Maybe you notice that Cat's English is very good. She doesn't make the mistakes that you generally hear people from Finland making, like leaving out articles like 'the' and 'a' or 'an'. The explanation is that Finns (mother tongue Finnish) don't have those articles in their language. Cat's mother tongue is Swedish, so she is a 'Finland-Swede'. Swedish and English belong to the same group of Germanic languages, so there are lots of similarities, whereas Finnish is totally different except for words borrowed and accommodated into Finnish from other languages.

    • @Babaxoon
      @Babaxoon Год назад

      Well, I really though that she was from Sweden originally

    • @MrKevlarkent
      @MrKevlarkent 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Babaxoon she isnt from sweden, but her mother tongue is swedish. nobody knows, not even swedes, but ~4.5% of the finnish population speak swedish as their mother tongue

  • @christinaatola3089
    @christinaatola3089 Год назад +12

    The power sockets in bathrooms are always grounded and (as far as I know) always at least a metre above floor level. They're also never right next to the shower: the gap in my house (where the electricals were redone in 2000) is well over a metre. In addition, the sockets on your average bathroom mirror lamp are automatically covered when not in use. So the only way water can get into the socket is if someone goes out of their way to put it in there.

    • @playnochat
      @playnochat 7 месяцев назад

      But also remeber that if you buy hair dryer from Temu that is literally how much your life is worth.
      I once bought Chinese lamp and it didn't work but electricity was directed straight to the metal cover of the lamp. I could have died.

  • @harrikuusjarvi3795
    @harrikuusjarvi3795 Год назад +9

    Finland has pretty warm floors so full carpet is not needed. And also heated floors are pretty common in winter time. So u dont really need carpet. I have few rooms with carpet. But it must be high quality or other wise its not really healthy. I sure understand why UK has a lot of them. Houses are pretty cold in winter time.

  • @Rymy11
    @Rymy11 Год назад +17

    Hi Mert and thanks for these reactions, have enjoyed a lot! Here is some opinions:
    - Yep, the socket in the bathroom is very common.
    - High water pressure also very normal.
    - Public transport is very easy to use in cities, but it has deteriorated in rural areas or smaller towns. The price level is slightly more expensive compared to central Europe.
    - Movie tickets are quite expensive, like 12 - 20 euros atleast in Helsinki area.
    Keep on doint these!

    • @tonibufu6103
      @tonibufu6103 Год назад

      "High water pressure also very normal", yes, and it has been many decades (at least), but in this year, for some reason, I received a letter from the maintenance company of the apartment (where I live), which says that the nozzles of the water taps in this apartment will be replaced with new ones (perhaps they were already so old that they had to be replaced before they fell apart, or maybe they had to be replaced already so that e.g. next year, for some reason mold accumulates there, maybe , so I'm not an expert on this matter). So the men came to the bathroom, changed them, left, and after them, the pressure of the water coming from the faucet is really low, compared to what it was before the nozzles were phased. For example, if there was toothpaste in the toothbrush and it kept the screams away, then it can be scared away with the help of water pressure before. Now it is no longer possible, the toothbrush must be washed with soap. Also, it takes longer to wash hands, etc.
      So in other words, i don't like what they did, but i can live with it.

    • @RiasSenpaiTheWallet
      @RiasSenpaiTheWallet Год назад

      same happened to me after our apartment got renovated, we called them and they fixed it. @@tonibufu6103

  • @jussiautio8454
    @jussiautio8454 Год назад +1

    The secret with electrical outlets in bathrooms is... that Nordics know how to build houses. We don't want mold and we know you can't keep windows open in the winter, so we have learned how to build air circulation & insulation properly - and as expansion - how to build proper houses. Warm ones. Unlike in Central Europe where it is so cold during winter - indoors - that you will never experience that in Nordics. As a bonus it means the moisture in bathrooms is not a threat to electrical sockets. :)

  • @mikrokupu
    @mikrokupu Год назад +6

    Yeah bathrooms in Finland have an electrical outlet(s), washing machine is usually placed in the bathroom. Public transport works well, in the capital region at least. I use metro regularly, plus occasionally trams/commuter trains. Yeah it's nice to have seasons, thought the older I get the more I dislike the long, dark winters. I can manage the cold, its always warm inside thanks to the district heating, but the lack of daylight... now I use a special daylight therapy lamp in the morning, that helps. So does a little holiday somewhere in warmer climates, right now hunting for a last-minute package holiday to Thailand.

  • @PekkaSiltala
    @PekkaSiltala Год назад +2

    I have two outlets. One in mirror cabinet (for razor or like) and one a bit further away from normal tabs. That one is for washing machine. Bathroom is "divided" in three sections, when it comes to electric installation regulations. (How far one is from water.)

  • @robcarr6607
    @robcarr6607 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm from UK and been in Finland for 4 years now. One of my biggest pet peeves here is that there's no English Subtitles on most Finnish programs/films. I've missed some great programs due to this.
    Vain elämää is a great example. -for those that don't know, this is a show where they get about 8 Finnish musicians to stay in a cabin, each episode is based around one of the stars, who the other stars then do covers of that persons music in their own style. Many Fins don't like it. but as someone from the Uk and a musician, the concept of it is amazing. unfortunately its all in Finnish with no subtitles. :(

    • @4486igi
      @4486igi 10 месяцев назад

      Learn Finnish? A swiss girl made it in 4months as exchangestudent. At least better than my english.

    • @robcarr6607
      @robcarr6607 10 месяцев назад

      @@4486igi "Learn Finnish" huh, never thought of that, been living here for over 4 years and it never dawned on me that might help. Thinking about it, It certainly would improve communication with my Finnish work colleagues and my Finnish partner.
      Depending on where in Finland you are depends largely on how much Finnish you need, and subsequently how quick you learn it. If the Swiss girl was Living in the North, in a small city, then fewer people speak English, meaning communication in Finnish becomes essential. -I however live in Helsinki where most if not all people speak good English. So the necessity to learn is diminished. Even then, I doubt she'd have learnt good Finnish in 4 months. after all, it is one of the worlds hardest languages and the spoken Finnish is different to the written Finnish.
      Needless to say, I am learning it, but its really hard to learn a new language when everyone speaks yours.

  • @blissfull_ignorance8454
    @blissfull_ignorance8454 Год назад +1

    The movie ticket prices in Finland varies from approximately 13 to 20 euros, in general.

  • @DROHARM
    @DROHARM Год назад +2

    Yeah, mass transportation is great on Helsinki area. But it is pretty solid and affordable on most 50k+ cities. Cinema tickets are around 15 euros.

  • @therokkaperkele
    @therokkaperkele 8 месяцев назад

    in Finland, toilets have sockets equipped with a residual current device that is set to 30mA, which means that the electrical appliance is safe to use.

  • @jussikuusela7345
    @jussikuusela7345 Год назад

    The plastic floor coverings we have in living spaces are often of a dense foamy bottom layer and a semi-rigid top layer. That allows a passable level of noise suppression, is somewhat warmer and softer under the foot than a hard covering, and yet easy to maintain. Then many modern buildings have floor heating which a thick carpet would hinder.
    Where my maternal grandparents lived when I was little, had a carpet in the upper storey rooms. But it was an old house with fireplaces for heating, and the landlord (my grand-uncle-in-law if that is a thing) was kind of a miser who only wanted to heat the lower storey where he lived, so my grandparents had bought and installed the carpet at their own expense.
    About public transport, yes it is fine in the bigger cities... even Tampere now has trams, although I'm yet to ride them. However I'm not a big fan of public transportation, living in a town where I'm used to drive around. IMHO Tampere just messed up the city with the green thinking - now that they have closed the main street and some branches from private motor vehicles, I find it so stressful trying to drive there that I often have considered avoiding any business in the center if I can do it elsewhere. For some places I used to park nearby and shortly visit, I now have to meander around and try to find a parking spot on a side street, then walk from there, often with baggage. It is good that they now have the parking app as a choice so that I don't have to look for a ticket automat and pre-pay an estimate. Instead I pretty much pay for the time my car sits in the spot.
    When I went to Helsinki in the spring with a couple of friends to watch Rammstein, we had booked a hostel in Suomenlinna (when we got onto booking, nothing was available north of that at a sensible price or distance), and each of us bought a 24 hour token to the public transportation. That cost a few Euros only and was good for the trams, buses and ferries in the zone we visited. One thing we didn't account for was that on a Sunday night, there were only a few food restaurants or kiosks open nearby after 10 PM, and all of those had a queue of an hour or more. So back to the hostel we went and ate what little we had brought earlier.

  • @Draugo
    @Draugo Год назад +4

    Bigger cities have an amazing public transport but anything smaller and you're lucky if the bus is coming within the next hour.

    • @Cherubi-chan
      @Cherubi-chan Год назад

      At least in my hometown (one of the smaller ones), if you miss the bus, you can easily walk to the town center before the next bus :P

    • @jattikuukunen
      @jattikuukunen Год назад

      @@Cherubi-chan Sounds like a perfect opportunity for biking.

    • @Cherubi-chan
      @Cherubi-chan Год назад

      @@jattikuukunen That is actually very true 🤔

  • @TimoHeikkinen
    @TimoHeikkinen Год назад

    About carpets and cold floor - many houses and apartments in Finland have underfloor heating - very comfortable as the heat is where it is needed: down where you are also. Also distributing the heating all over the room reduces drag compared to radiator heating, when the radiators are installed under the windows (as they should be). The only one who does not always like floor heating is our dog, as during the cold period when the temperature outside drops down to -30 degrees Celsius, the floor will be heated to as warm as +35 degrees - much too warm for the furry friend. But he always has the option to jump on the much cooler coach.

  • @osemarvin2847
    @osemarvin2847 Год назад

    Carpeted floors in Finland, sure.
    Many houses have'em. Not all, but many do.
    There's no law against carpets, so you can have as many as you like.
    You can even have carpets on carpets, all the way from floor to ceiling, if you so wish :)
    Public transport in Helsinki is the best in the world. Full stop.
    Unless you take the first one in 4:15am in any given morning - which is full of drunkards out of night clubs singing drunken lullabies and misbehaving in general. Otherwise it is usually calm and peaceful ride all day long.
    Seasons - especially the autumn in Finland - is mindblowingly beautiful!!! It cannot get any better than that! It really can't. That's impossible. And after brilliantly colourful and mystical autumn comes couple of weeks of full halloween scenery - until winter takes over with all of it's snow and ice and stuff. It's so great!

  • @liisagawley2053
    @liisagawley2053 Год назад

    Electric plugs in bathrooms are in places where water doesn't affect them and they are earthed. Fitted carpets are rare in Finnish houses. We use rugs instead. Good water pressure and mixer tapes are certainly great in Finland as are warm houses no matter what the weather is like.

  • @timorautiainen1783
    @timorautiainen1783 Год назад +4

    I do get the sympathy for whole carpets, not that common in Finland but they were trend decades ago. But for own experience when living in Ireland. We had carpet floor and collegue in same apartment complex had identical apartment with hard wood floors. Their apartment was extremely cold due to floor, you really had to wear something more than just socks inside to walk there. And overall it felt lot more colder compared to ours. Only tedious with the carpets was that when we were moving back to Finland, I think I did vacuum living room two or three times, third time just because I had taken vacuum back to closet, came back to living room and there was red woolen strand suddenly there. Still don't know where the hell it came from. But whole carpets are just bad if you got asthma or general dust allergies, guess that is one of the reasons Finland got rid of them. Just health and plastic/vinyl/laminate floors are just lot easier to maintain and keep clean.

    • @buddyweiz
      @buddyweiz Год назад +1

      Yeah, whole carpets, that was so -80:es.

    • @ArchieArpeggio
      @ArchieArpeggio Год назад

      Many hotels and cruise vessels have carpeting at the floors that there would be less noice and people don´t wake up if people walk to other rooms or cabins. Thar is about the only good reason to even use carpeting.

  • @Aurinkohelmi
    @Aurinkohelmi Год назад

    Movie tickets has gone up recently, so now it´s pretty much about 10-20 e depending on the time and the movie.

  • @TimoHeikkinen
    @TimoHeikkinen Год назад

    All the outlets in the bathroom (or any room with water or conductive ground in reach) have had to have a specific protective circuit that prevents you from being electrocuted in the case of using damaged appliance or if you dropped your hair dryer into bathing water. Today *all* outlets in new-built houses have to have the same protection circuitry. The circuitry is thoroughly tested and scrutinized before taken into use.

  • @tulenvakiproductions
    @tulenvakiproductions Год назад

    Sockets in the bathroom in Finland are kind of mandatory.
    Cloth washing machines are generally in bathrooms unless you live in a bigger house with a separate laundry room, but never in a kitchen.
    We had full carpeting in Finland some where around 70's the last time tbh.

  • @eevanurmenniemi1978
    @eevanurmenniemi1978 Год назад +1

    My grandma lived in the same household with my parents, me and my brother. She had a carpet floor in her room (1980's and 90's). I haven't seen it anywhere else in Finland.
    I remember it feeling nice and different as a child, but God it was awful to rip away when the floor was changed!

    • @penaarja
      @penaarja Год назад +1

      Those fullfloor carpets were some kind of grazy idea In 1970's. Did not Last long.

    • @ArchieArpeggio
      @ArchieArpeggio Год назад

      Many hotels and cruise vessels have carpeting at the floors that there would be less noice and people don´t wake up if people walk to other rooms or cabins. Thar is about the only good reason to even use carpeting.

  • @lkm8898
    @lkm8898 3 месяца назад

    Mert,
    I love your accent and your Finnish pronunciation, you seem to know the basics of Finnish phonetics. I know you're Scottish, but in my ears your name sounds Estonian (?) I'm a Finn.
    These young people reacting to things in their apartment and people around them, who drink a lot of milk etc. are students living in student housing and generalise in the way of young people tend to do nowadays.
    I know middle class people with (large) shower cubicles a in their bathroom and I think most houses and flats at least in Helsinki have wood floors.

  • @rekkaus
    @rekkaus Год назад

    That "full carpet mat" kind of thing were used back in I think 1960 or so (here in Finland). But no, luckily no we do not have it anymore. I guess you can get it if you really want it. But thinking of dirt, pets, kids and so on it would be terrible in practise.
    Public traspotation is cheap (like full month of "work ticket" under 50€ or so), really great and fast to use. IF you live in big city. If you are in small city there is none (well taxi).
    So I guess we can say that: IF you live in big city area or nearby you have to pay more to buy a nice house but you do not NEED a car. If you choose to live further away you can get way bigger and nicer house quite cheap, but you need most likely one car per person and that can be expensive.

  • @ooihv9162
    @ooihv9162 Год назад

    React Hanoi Rocks - Back to mystery city - Live 1983 Marquee. Hanoi Rocks is legendary finnish rock band. The Band influenced many rock bands like GnR, Foo Fighters, Mötley Crüe. 80s era ended december 1984 when drummer Razzle died on a car crash. The driver were Vince Neil.

  • @jps8678
    @jps8678 Год назад

    whole carpets - I never seen them anywhere but I like that it can be cozy at winter. Transportation - It's good in cities but I avoid them at rush time 'cause I need space and I don't want to buy tickets that price. I rather walk or use bicycle if it's under 30 km..even in winter with slick tyres. Movies in theaters was over 20 euros when I wanted to go see new Marvel movie but I would have paid under 10 euros so I passed it.

  • @Jaytronepic
    @Jaytronepic 5 месяцев назад

    The power sockets in bathrooms are meant for a toaster, so you can have toast while in a bathtub

  • @OvoirxDeegyz00
    @OvoirxDeegyz00 11 месяцев назад

    My sister has Irish husband :D He afraids Finland kind of :D :D I love irish people, you too. Come here and make videos.Tampere is the best city in Finland!

  • @DuBstep115
    @DuBstep115 Год назад

    Public transport works very well in Capital Helsinki, rest of the Finland, not so much

  • @ChristianJull
    @ChristianJull Год назад +1

    I think if Brits had to get their carpets checked by those germ forensic folk, there would carpet burnings in the street.
    Stockmann Crazy Days are a huge ripoff. Stockmann is already expensive, but they increase prices in the weeks before. So the 'crazy' prices are not so much so.
    If you can't read Finnish or Swedish, cinema visits can sometimes be frustrating. If there is any non-English dialogue, you don't get the English subs (obviously!). So you sometimes miss chunks of a film. And, of course, you can't see Finnish films for the same reason. You sometimes also don't get English subs on Finnish TV series on Netflix, even though they're available in other countries.

  • @leopartanen8752
    @leopartanen8752 Год назад

    When you're used to something that is practical, you're definitely going to miss that, such as doing paperwork instead of handling things online. 😅

  • @rosmu1130
    @rosmu1130 Год назад

    It would be a good timing to take a look at this subject in near future, since Finland's Independence Day is 6th of December.
    So, I thought to recommend you to take a look at this RUclips video.
    In this video there's an Irish guy talking about his first experience of Finnish Independence Day and mentions of how he has celebrated it these last couple of years.
    An Irish view on Finland's Independence Day -
    ruclips.net/video/LA91FndGLjQ/видео.htmlsi=YTge9PVW1MlD7q4f

  • @Pappa_66
    @Pappa_66 Год назад +4

    Thanks mate! I highly recommend to follow/watch also Dave's channel/videos (her British husband). He and his friends, also abroad, makes great "outdoor"/ hiking/nature videos. No spoilers😂😅❤. And "Irish in Finland".

  • @MariLaitila-o3j
    @MariLaitila-o3j Год назад +2

    Electrical sockets in finnish bathrooms are differend from other ones around the appartment. Those are specificly designed for damb spaces. Same goes with all the lighting in the damb areas.

    • @jattikuukunen
      @jattikuukunen Год назад

      Not necessarily. The regulations are not that straightforward, it all depends on how far the socket is from the shower or the bathtub. And if there is a sauna attached to the bathroom or not. My bathroom has the same sockets for the washing machine that are used in the rest of the building, but only they are behind RCD because the building was built before 2007.

  • @janiriikonen7427
    @janiriikonen7427 Год назад

    Public transport is so bad in Finland. If more than one travels with adult tickect it is cheaper to use own car. Only good thing is if you live in one of the biggest cities you don't need to pay for parking if you don't use car. Out side of those there is no bus network and if you use train you need to wait 1-3 hours.

  • @Zardagbum
    @Zardagbum Год назад +1

    I've seen one household with carpeted floors in Finland. Well, they had them, but then the school their kid goes to had a bit of a lice infestation, their kid got them too and they had to rip all the carpets off because those fuckers infested them as well.

  • @pjsyrj
    @pjsyrj 7 месяцев назад

    There were carpets in '70 but then floor heating was invented.

  • @SamiVantaa
    @SamiVantaa Год назад +1

    Carpets are dirty. Put a rug and you can wash it.

  • @moi-ev3pi
    @moi-ev3pi Год назад

    Can you react to Joutsenlaulu-Yö. It's very good rock song and like stairway to heaven of finland

  • @fu6817
    @fu6817 6 месяцев назад

    Not every apartment in Finland have a boxing bag under it.

  • @Trinedyy
    @Trinedyy Год назад +4

    Finland is a big sparsely populated country. Mass transportation is good in the big cities in south and ridiculously bad everywhere else. You can't comfortably live without a car outside the top 10 cities by population size. We have a lot of political discourse about gas prices and electronic cars because of this. Most people live in big cities and do not understand how hard it is to accomodate to the green change in the smaller cities and rural areas.

    • @Tyrisalthan
      @Tyrisalthan Год назад +3

      I think saying only 10 largest cities have public transportation is a bit exaggerated. I can grant that in the countryside there probably isn't that good options available, but as long as a town have a city status it has transportation of some kind, no matter the size.

    • @Trinedyy
      @Trinedyy Год назад

      @@Tyrisalthan A bit exaggerated yes, depends on the city. If the people are willing to use public transportation, the companies running them will have more money to expand thus making it better (independant factor from population size).
      The bigger problem is having the communities around cities have fast and reliable access to the cities. Works in bigger cities, definitely not in medium and smaller. You can move within the city, but not get there from outside in manageable time (for example for commute).

  • @osclhelp
    @osclhelp Год назад

    We always laugh UK "health and safety" rules regarding sockets in bathroom. No sockets but shower directly connected in the mains is okay. So why they are okay? 😂Also those sockets in Finnish bathroom is not next to the shower. But Power showers are the shower. 🤕

    • @jattikuukunen
      @jattikuukunen Год назад

      Maybe it's mostly for the hairdryer-in-bathtub situation.

  • @abelkirves6556
    @abelkirves6556 Год назад

    I recommend watching this video: "The most pessimistic town in the world - BBC REEL".

  • @SamiVantaa
    @SamiVantaa Год назад

    Yes, we have electric outles in every bathroom.

  • @dbtest117
    @dbtest117 11 месяцев назад

    Certain ip class is required regarding the outlets and certain guidelines needs to be followed.

    • @dbtest117
      @dbtest117 11 месяцев назад

      Public transport is very different depending on where you live.

  • @septimor32
    @septimor32 6 месяцев назад

    ffs. byhyy😭 Someone playing a guitar and a punching bag downstairs at the daytime. Must be so hard to live like that.

  • @cosmicgirl4920
    @cosmicgirl4920 Год назад

    You can have a carpet, but hell no to the ”carpeted floors” you have in the UK, even in the bath rooms. Just think how much mold and all kinds of shit is in there!

  • @sleepines
    @sleepines Год назад

    the outlets in bathrooms are made differently and are located way higher than normal ones in living areas. so it's not as risky as u might think..also we know not to touch them wet e.e
    public transport ticked for 1 month, is around 50-70e (depends on few different things..) which imo is quite a lot ._.

    • @jattikuukunen
      @jattikuukunen Год назад

      They outlets may be the exact same ones if they are far enough from the shower and bathtub.

    • @sleepines
      @sleepines Год назад

      @@jattikuukunen maybe, i am no expert but some have the flaps on them

  • @mursuhillo242
    @mursuhillo242 8 месяцев назад

    I'd rather live 2 meters deep in a pine box. Or scattered around anything in a powdery, dust form.

  • @Songfugel
    @Songfugel Год назад

    3:50 Were you also in charge of cleaning the carpet floors back then? and were you aware of just how an incredibly unhygienic growth-platform they are for any sort of bacteria or mold? 😂
    Also the cost of movie tickets have absolutely skyrocketed in the past two decades. I used to go watch all new movies in the cinema when the tickets were around 5€, but I've gone to the cinema only about 5 times in the past 10 years since the tickets are now so ridiculously expensive 15€ to 20€ per ticket!
    And apart from a few exceptions (e.g. JoJo Rabbit, Parasite, Dune) the movies in the past 10 years have been pretty much garbage (and mostly bad remakes at that) compared to the movies from previous eras

  • @qwineth
    @qwineth Год назад

    Carpets, god, a devil's invention - so dirty, so unhygienic, and often you guys don't even take your shoes off, like what is that?? The houses are well insulated in Finland, the showers will work, central heating is universal. The UK and Irish flats can be shockingly cold and drafty, and the showers so erratic...

  • @saturahman7510
    @saturahman7510 Год назад

    It is almost impossible to go to the shop to buy food, because it is so slippery and dark outside. Some elderly people are starving because of that. I have lived in Finland all my life.

    • @elinahamalainen5867
      @elinahamalainen5867 Год назад +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @penaarja
      @penaarja Год назад +2

      Wtf 😅😅🤔

    • @Manselikka
      @Manselikka Год назад +2

      Most elderly people take their cars and rollers and safety shoes to go in winter. If you are unable to go yourself and have no relatives or friends to help, the social help workers bring your food. And we have also home delivery services here. Where you are really from?😂

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter Год назад

      The biggest BS post I have seen in years.

    • @saturahman7510
      @saturahman7510 Год назад

      @@penaarja Do your research about poor people in Finland.

  • @Harmitaako
    @Harmitaako Год назад

    Enjoying seasons and Helsinki doesnt kinda sound right. Summer is nice yeah and even autumn. But winter is total bs compared to other part of the country. If you like wet, wet, wet little bit of snow and wet, then Helsinki is great every season city :DDDxD

    • @Harmitaako
      @Harmitaako Год назад

      Also people in Helsinki doesnt understand the feeling that you need a car, coz everything is near. If you come outside of that bubble you realize that holy shit, distances are bit longer and dont have that public transportation, you really need own car to move from place to place, for example your way to work might be 50km one way, and like i said, no busses or nothing.