We Finally Watched *ANT MAN*

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  • @folcotook3049
    @folcotook3049 Год назад +325

    I think this is the earliest I've seen reactors realize that Hank had set up Scott robbing his house. Well done.

    • @samsaumaralikhan
      @samsaumaralikhan Год назад +11

      fax

    • @alexroberts2421
      @alexroberts2421 Год назад +16

      And figuring out how Janet died right off the bat!

    • @sonalchd
      @sonalchd Год назад +2

      Exact thought lol

    • @j0hn00
      @j0hn00 Год назад +10

      ​@@alexroberts2421Fr these are two of the most observant and smart movie reactors I've come across. I was impressed when they understood Interstellar on the first watch, most people just come out completely lost

    • @judemusyoki7052
      @judemusyoki7052 5 месяцев назад

      Fr

  • @maximillianosaben
    @maximillianosaben Год назад +290

    This movie was a blast. Getting Paul Rudd in the MCU was just a huge homerun.

    • @bambimbosh
      @bambimbosh Год назад +1

      Frr

    • @kennethv5250
      @kennethv5250 Год назад +4

      not just a homerun but a homerun with bases loaded 2 runs down in the bottom of the ninth lol

    • @NPClownumber81googolplex
      @NPClownumber81googolplex Год назад +5

      Paul Rudd couldn't save quantumania tho...

    • @maximillianosaben
      @maximillianosaben Год назад +4

      @@NPClownumber81googolplex - Sounds like a "you" problem"...

    • @NPClownumber81googolplex
      @NPClownumber81googolplex Год назад +10

      @maximillianosaben most people didn't like quantumania but keep living in 🤡🌎

  • @tomkvideo
    @tomkvideo Год назад +99

    The old guy in the car (from Martin) is Garrett Morris. He was the first person to play Ant-Man in live action. It was on an episode of Saturday Night Live back in the 1979. Fun cameo.

  • @janrodriguez3214
    @janrodriguez3214 Год назад +23

    “Welcome to Baskin Robbins”
    “Is that Dairy Queen?”
    😂

  • @lifestyle-everything
    @lifestyle-everything Год назад +83

    Glad y’all loved Ant-Man. It’s so underrated in the MCU to me and Paul Rudd is perfect for the role!

    • @cnault3244
      @cnault3244 Год назад

      Ant-Man has 3 movies so far, but Squirrel Girl has 0 ? The Marvel MCU discriminates against rodents!

    • @tomasalarconchible9729
      @tomasalarconchible9729 Год назад

      @@cnault3244 fucck squirrel girl :D

    • @slyboothy9593
      @slyboothy9593 Год назад

      ​@@cnault3244 agreed justice for squirrel girl

  • @THEbeautifuLIE
    @THEbeautifuLIE Год назад +51

    Guys - you have officially arrived at the greatest stretch in the MCU!
    *CIVIL WAR* is the best of the Captain America trilogy, in everyone’s top 3 MCU movies ever and is easily one of the best comic book / superhero movies of all time!
    *BUCKLE UP!*

  • @Lincoln_Gi
    @Lincoln_Gi Год назад +22

    Y'all gonna love Luis🤣

  • @joshuacampbell7493
    @joshuacampbell7493 Год назад +41

    Pual Rudd is perfect for this role 👌.

  • @joshuacampbell7493
    @joshuacampbell7493 Год назад +139

    Next, Captain America Civil War. Which is my favorite of the trilogy.

    • @chade7669
      @chade7669 Год назад +3

      Which

    • @Provoses
      @Provoses Год назад +9

      Definitely my favorite Mcu movie. Such a banger

    • @Tooba-K123
      @Tooba-K123 Год назад +7

      Same. Its my most favorite in CA trilogy and one of my most favorite Marvel movie in general.

    • @whoarocket
      @whoarocket Год назад +9

      Captain America: Civil War came out about the same time as Batman versus Superman, and demonstrated why Marvel writing is so much better than DC.
      With the conflict in Batman vs Superman, you just roll your eyes at how stupid it is. But in Civil War, when you hear each side explain why they have that solid conviction, you're thinking, "Yeah, I think you're right. That's a good point." for BOTH sides! It's so tough.

    • @kry4973
      @kry4973 Год назад +2

      @@whoarocket It grows on you to be fair! I hated the first time I watched BVS, the pacing just felt so odd to me. After rewatching it from HBO always playing it back in the day I realized how good the batman fights were, for whatever reason it has good rewatch value.

  • @wolfpack_104
    @wolfpack_104 Год назад +53

    Ant Man 1 is low-key one of my top five favorite MCU films. I'm a sucker or a fun heist film and the powers/visuals on display were surprising and creative, imo.

    • @A-Dubs398
      @A-Dubs398 Год назад

      Shame Ant-Man 2 and 3 could've live up to the 1st movie. 2 was still decent though, but 3 was atrocious.

    • @A-Dubs398
      @A-Dubs398 Год назад +1

      @@iAmNoLongerHere2 Yes

    • @wolfpack_104
      @wolfpack_104 Год назад +5

      @@iAmNoLongerHere2 I watched it yesterday and thought it was fine. Didn't see what all the fuss was about.

  • @jobinmcgooch
    @jobinmcgooch Год назад +12

    This is a fun one with dope visuals. Paul Rudd is great and RIP ANTony. 🐜

  • @riolkin
    @riolkin Год назад +12

    This is such a wholesome family/heist movie. Paul Rudd is such a gem.

  • @Rikanlegend
    @Rikanlegend Год назад +4

    The “I told you so” face at 7:09 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥

  • @madbird6338
    @madbird6338 Год назад +15

    Fun fact the guy you saw that seemed familiar at 1:55 was also a guy you guys saw for a brief bit in The Dark Knight batman movie with Heath Ledger as the Joker. In that reaction video that guy is in a scene where the joker sets up fake guards during that big announcement. And shoots up at the podium. The joker was also one of the fake policemen with no make up on. He escapes but this guy here that we recognize got captured. I recognize him from that once you guys said something. Love watching these along with you guys. Even though I've already seen mostly all of these films. I love seeing both of your reactions to everything.

    • @lenadiratata182
      @lenadiratata182 Год назад

      Oh thank you I was wondering too where I saw him too! That was in the dark knight !

  • @nintenmetro
    @nintenmetro Год назад +30

    Two of my favorite parts were when Scott outed himself to the cops by accident and when Dave and Kurt were arguing in the van then Dave tried to dissuade Gale and Paxton.

  • @ClawBeastProductions
    @ClawBeastProductions Год назад +15

    Did you know that Hank Pym was the one who created Ultron instead of Tony. Antman and the Wasp was the first original Avengers in the comics along side Ironman, Captain America, Thor and Hulk. So the movies version is a bit different than the comics

    • @orlandoawilliams799
      @orlandoawilliams799 Год назад +2

      Slight correction: Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, The Wasp, and The Hulk were the original comic book Avengers. Cap was given "founding member" status after he joined the team (The Hulk departed before Captain America became an Avenger).

    • @ClawBeastProductions
      @ClawBeastProductions Год назад +1

      @@orlandoawilliams799 Oh really thanks for that info

    • @orlandoawilliams799
      @orlandoawilliams799 Год назад

      @@ClawBeastProductions it's knowledge that's earned me a couple of beers from my younger nerd associates 🙂

  • @karlhodgson9771
    @karlhodgson9771 Год назад +7

    Love and peace you two. If Paul Rudd ever sees this love and peace to you dude.

  • @DeeksDuo
    @DeeksDuo Год назад +11

    loved that you guys enjoyed this, Civil War is great and I think your both gonna have a lot of ups and downs with, hits hard

  • @chadbailey7038
    @chadbailey7038 Год назад +24

    The film definitely DID pick up steam after its release. It was a sleeper hit and has aged very well. Hes become a fan favorite.
    Just gets more 🔥 from here 🙌🏾

  • @HardParking
    @HardParking Год назад +6

    Worth the wait. On this trip with you guys. I Ioved Ant Man. So rewatchable.

  • @testfire3000
    @testfire3000 Год назад +4

    Crazy ending for Phase Two! Now comes the absolute peak of Marvel over the upcoming films. Almost every one is a total banger, above and beyond what you have seen so far.

  • @tubatsimoloi7743
    @tubatsimoloi7743 Год назад +4

    Damn, Vince caught Hank's plan fast.

  • @camctrail
    @camctrail Год назад +3

    "Welcome to Baskin Robbins"
    "Is that Dairy Queen?"

  • @jbmopar1971
    @jbmopar1971 Год назад +4

    The guy that you recognized from Martin used to be on Saturday Night Live and was the very first person to play ant man on SNL

    • @Jymm
      @Jymm Год назад

      Superhero party was a such a funny skit!

  • @tomclark5924
    @tomclark5924 Год назад +9

    Great reaction guys. I can't tell you how excited I am for you to see the next film. No spoilers, but It changes everything!

  • @seanyoung9014
    @seanyoung9014 Год назад +18

    You guys are in the prime stretch of MCU movies now. I cannot wait for you to see the next......damn basically the next 15 movies wow.

    • @MuhammadTahir-jf8pz
      @MuhammadTahir-jf8pz Год назад

      @@dayspring3459 Can' wait wait to see their reaction to Ant-man 3, they probably won't react to it..

    • @Heroo01
      @Heroo01 Год назад +1

      @@MuhammadTahir-jf8pz why tf wouldn't they react to it??

    • @Hiro-rx8yb
      @Hiro-rx8yb Год назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@Dayspring while I agree Shang chi is overrated captain marvel is overhated there are few others that are good in phase 4 but not peak marvel did bad for 1 phase 3 others phases prove different phase 5 is looking good and it’s only one phase don’t give up so quick

  • @Juggernuts
    @Juggernuts Год назад +8

    civil war will be your introduction to the entirety of the team, for the first time so much hype for you guys, great reaction as always

  • @evanthebourne
    @evanthebourne Год назад +6

    It was better than most of us expectedin every way, the plot, the characters, the comic book accuracy. It had its own charm

  • @Klevermoregames
    @Klevermoregames Год назад +3

    "Welcome to Baskin Robins" "HAHAHAHAHA...Is that Dairy Queen?"

  • @js7733
    @js7733 Год назад +6

    Civil war is one of the best movies ever made in an genre, get to that asap cause it’s a masterpiece and will blow your mind

  • @Joao-vs8xo
    @Joao-vs8xo Год назад +4

    Thanks for The reactions Guys as always!
    Ant man is needed in this verse, he's dope
    You'll know How important this tiny/huge hero IS!
    Next is Cap 3 Civil war Lets GO it's gonna be so Sick this One!

  • @johngreen6521
    @johngreen6521 Год назад +9

    Get ready for Phase 3. It's on a entirely different level. May need tissues on standby the whole phase.

  • @AdamPFarnsworth
    @AdamPFarnsworth Год назад +3

    Ant-Man is one of my favorite Marvel movies. It's just so much fun!

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 Год назад +6

    Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤

  • @StreetHierarchy
    @StreetHierarchy Год назад +5

    Hank Pym was the OG Ant-Man with the OG Avengers, back in the 60s. I think he was responsible for creating Ultron, or maybe Vison, or both.

  • @jipcee9664
    @jipcee9664 Год назад +3

    Civil war is still my favorite MCU movie ever. Cant wait for next week’s reaction.

  • @Dreadnaugh2517
    @Dreadnaugh2517 Год назад +3

    Holy shit I can’t wait till you guys see Civil War 🔥🔥

  • @frogofbrass382
    @frogofbrass382 Год назад +11

    Garrett Morris was the Black actor who plays the guy who looks to the roof of his car after Scott gets big. He was part of the very first cast of Saturday Night Live. In season four, SNL did a skit about a superhero party in which Morris played Ant Man, the very first appearance of the character in live-action.
    ruclips.net/video/ndSp1zM_8cY/видео.html

  • @mrcapra
    @mrcapra Год назад +2

    You guys watched "Them!"?? Great!!! I would've lives to see your reaction. Anyway great great reaction on Ant-Man. I love when two people watch because one might remember something the other misses or forgets. Great job, "yeah super fine!"

  • @manuelarnauda
    @manuelarnauda Год назад +1

    U guys are so smart, here enjoying all your MCU reactions, the best is yet to come

  • @TheVillainousTitan
    @TheVillainousTitan Год назад +5

    Yellow jackets suit design is still top 5 for me in the MCU ❤😅

  • @jamesbale1355
    @jamesbale1355 Год назад +2

    I loved Ant-Man such a fun and delightful movie.

  • @ProjectPiperCustoms
    @ProjectPiperCustoms Год назад +1

    Your not ready for the next film, Captain America: Civil War!
    Prepare to have your minds blown, and that's just the start.

  • @RayHardman7567
    @RayHardman7567 11 месяцев назад

    You should check out the behind the scenes stuff for when Hope is training Scott how to fight. It's funny as hell.

  • @tylerthorson2343
    @tylerthorson2343 Год назад +2

    You guys are in for a wild ride with Civil war coming up next. Honestly one of the best movies of the Franchise!! Can’t wait for that reaction !

  • @markcastellanet9672
    @markcastellanet9672 Год назад +4

    The antman movies are different from other mcu movies. In part his movies are, well, smaller in scale.... People sometimes unfairly compare these movies with captain America the winder soldier, which is unfair. Taken on its own, its a fun little romp.

  • @stephensliger5981
    @stephensliger5981 Год назад +1

    Baskin Robbins always finds out.

  • @bamba2046
    @bamba2046 Год назад +1

    You know Luis from Narcos Mexico, he was the DEA agent that gets kidnapped and killed by the Mexican mafia. True shit, great performance and what a good reaction 🫶

  • @essammohamed1568
    @essammohamed1568 Год назад +3

    The next movie is on another level. It should have been an Avengers movie tho
    You guys need to finish watching the Spiderman movies u started reacting to ASAP before the next movie

  • @sly_cat
    @sly_cat 9 месяцев назад +1

    Fun fact, the guy in the cab actually played antman on in living color

  • @Belnick6666
    @Belnick6666 Год назад +2

    before watching I wonder if this will be the first reactors so see, that I watched, that they changed firearms for the ants to block the hammer on a firearm that in the last scene did not have a external hammer....first thing I saw in the cinema an no reactors so far that I have seen have seen it(20+), it is incredible

  • @victorpalacios5668
    @victorpalacios5668 Год назад +2

    Holy shit civil war already??? I’m soooo excited!

  • @shannontaylor1849
    @shannontaylor1849 4 месяца назад

    Sitting here writing notes for work but enjoy you guys in the background; you're my kid's age and I like the way you talk to each other.

  • @BajaBCat
    @BajaBCat Год назад +2

    Strap-in for Civil War, it's a ride.

  • @LadiesmanB007
    @LadiesmanB007 Год назад +2

    Phase 3 is insane. Prepare yourselves

  • @canadian__ninja
    @canadian__ninja Год назад

    "Welcome to Baskin Robbins!"
    Is this Dairy Queen??

  • @Shortyd17
    @Shortyd17 Год назад +1

    This movie is pretty much perfect to me

  • @hayfrand5094
    @hayfrand5094 Месяц назад

    This is actually one of the most underrated movies and protagonists in the Mcu. The main theme is also a total banger

  • @Cenforge
    @Cenforge Год назад

    Bravo.

  • @eamon5883
    @eamon5883 Год назад +1

    Shashana, youre from Duncan? haha the island vibes must be why i enjoy watching you guys!

  • @ghstdnsr
    @ghstdnsr Год назад

    Every time I watch your reactions it looks like Marissa Neitling doing the reaction.

  • @Alex-tq1qr
    @Alex-tq1qr Год назад +1

    This is the best Ant Man. Hands down. No ifs ands or buts.

    • @graytaco1002
      @graytaco1002 Год назад +1

      the second one has such a mid villain

  • @mikedignum1868
    @mikedignum1868 Год назад

    One of my favorite films.

  • @victore6242
    @victore6242 Год назад +2

    the first time we see scott put on the suit... when he lands on top of that car. the guy in the car is Garret Morris. he's a comedian. BITD in an SNL skit he played Ant Man. that was the first time the Ant Man was seen on television.

  • @tonzyjc
    @tonzyjc Год назад +1

    This movie is great.. it was well received

  • @austintoler820
    @austintoler820 Год назад +1

    I can't wait for you guys to watch Civil War next.

  • @hagatam11
    @hagatam11 Год назад +1

    And after civil war, you should watch Black Widow without the post credit scenes

  • @sonalchd
    @sonalchd Год назад +1

    Ngl yall predicted alot stuff in this movie that we find out later in the movie

  • @A-Dubs398
    @A-Dubs398 Год назад +2

    BTW, The guy in the car from Martin wasn't randomly there. He also played Ant-Man on SNL WAY BACK in the day, I think even before Martin. That's why he was there.

  • @sergiopalavecino5210
    @sergiopalavecino5210 Год назад +1

    Greetings, good reaction, I recommend the movie King Arthur (2004) starring one of the best actors Clive Owen, the truth is a very good plot setting, a captivating story about King Arthur and his knights, such brave people who lived and died with honor

  • @NiKi-ij2ln
    @NiKi-ij2ln Год назад

    Ant is the strongest, the smartest. He can go inside you and destroy you from inside.

  • @Uatu-the-Watcher
    @Uatu-the-Watcher Год назад +1

    Garret Morris (from Martin) was one of the original Saturday Night Live players. He’s in this film because he played Ant-Man in an SNL sketch.
    :-)

  • @JuanGutierrez-de7ig
    @JuanGutierrez-de7ig Год назад +1

    Thanks Guys for ant Man!
    Next IS Cap 3 Civil War oh Man That's gonna be INSANE for You LOL
    Cant wait

  • @poddararobinda8963
    @poddararobinda8963 Год назад

    when scott fall on the top of thr car they showed one black grandpa he was 1st and the original ant man from before

  • @theryanreynoldsfan3674
    @theryanreynoldsfan3674 Год назад +2

    Fun Fact: The Ugly Bunny toy is played by Tom Kenny who we all know as SpongeBob Squarepants

  • @thatpatrickguy3446
    @thatpatrickguy3446 Год назад

    Great reaction gang! And Vince's instincts stayed right on! You both had a good feel where this one was going actually, no slight against Shoshana at all. 🙂
    This is one of my three favorite MCU movies because this one was more in tune with all the comics I read as a kid. Most of them were local, not these "all of a major city/continent/planet/solar system/galaxy/universe/whatever is going to be destroyed!" stuff, which was fine actually, but I liked the more localized stories even more. This was about a guy who got screwed over by his choices (well intentioned, but still) and who was just trying to get back what mattered most to him: time with his little girl. I also liked how Paxton, the policeman/future step-father, wasn't really a bad guy but he loved both Scott's ex AND his daughter and wanted to protect them both, and he and Scott became friends at the end. That was a great touch that really got me. And the three wombats were also awesome. So many good actors and characters in this movie! Evangeline Lilly played Hope Pym so well, and the Pym story was very deep and touching, and you both picked up on that instantly! Great job!
    Looking forward to your continuing journey through the MCU! And those end credit scenes? Awesome foreshadowing. Love it!

  • @theryanreynoldsfan3674
    @theryanreynoldsfan3674 Год назад

    1:09 Not till Guardians of the Galaxy 2

  • @arthurcamargo8416
    @arthurcamargo8416 Год назад

    This was a fun movie! I really enjoyed the "story telling" in the movie, as well as the way the plot comes together with the other MCU characters. I also think that if you watched the movie "Them," then you have seen one of the smartest "monster" movies ever made.

  • @veronicab9253
    @veronicab9253 Год назад

    Love this channel ❤

  • @nickr0425
    @nickr0425 Год назад

    Man imo Civil War is the single best MCU movie. You are in for a treat next.

  • @natecloe8535
    @natecloe8535 Год назад

    I had heard of Ant-Man before but I did not know anything about him. I think the only Marvel heroes that I had never heard of prior to the movies were Vision, ALL of The Guardians (ffs I thought the movies were stand alone Marvel movies for little kids. Nothing to do with the MCU....now theyre my favorites.) Winter Soldier, and Wanda or Scarlet Witch...whatever.
    But the most suprising thing to learn about for me was Ant-Man. But I think it was the casting that did it. You never see Paul Rudd play a character that is all that competent in certain areas. He's always a goof, But it surprised me that he is so smart and athletically skilled in this movie from the very beginning. The 1st time I heard him say he had a Degree in engineering I literally had to rewind it and listen again to make sure I heard it correctly.

  • @sauravrathi2799
    @sauravrathi2799 Год назад +3

    Guys, please match the loudness for when you talk and the movie plays. I had to keep adjusting the volume. The movie's audio was very low relative to yours

  • @miraclecomics
    @miraclecomics Год назад +1

    And yea the next movie is Captain America Civil War

  • @joeffcatapang2494
    @joeffcatapang2494 Год назад

    end of Phase 2..you're entering Phase 3..its going to be a blast..next is Captain America: Civil War, thats a great one, one of the best..then, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spiderman: Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Endgame, the finally for Phase 3, Spiderman: Far From Home..

  • @NaraMoreira98
    @NaraMoreira98 Год назад

    one of my favorite marvel's movie

  • @fourteeN.27
    @fourteeN.27 3 месяца назад

    7:07 she : ohhhhh....
    7:10 sheep : mehhhhh....
    Did she get mocked by a sheep!
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @brianstewart3897
    @brianstewart3897 Год назад

    When they were making this movie, they asked the owners of Thomas the Tank Engine for permission to use the character, and they said yes under two conditions: Thomas always had to have a smile on his face, and he had to be completely neutral in any fight scenes he was involved in. Obviously you saw that they could work within those constraints.

  • @feardabrood
    @feardabrood Год назад +3

    The Ant man and the whole quantum realm aspect is way more important to the MCU that you guys think. Now the real craziness begins....

  • @AmberMarrrie
    @AmberMarrrie Год назад

    I can’t wait for you to watch Civil War. It’s one of the best marvel films of all time

  • @dennytaylor1005
    @dennytaylor1005 Год назад

    Great reaction ... everyone wonders about this movie before seeing it...then once they see it they alll love it!

  • @dalliepool550
    @dalliepool550 Год назад

    Missing the glasses 😉

  • @dvine3488
    @dvine3488 Год назад

    NICE MOVIE BUT ILLOGICAL,HANK PYM SAID THAT YOU WILL GROWS SMALL BUT YOUR MASS REAINS THE SAME,YET HE WAS ABLE TO RUN ON THAT GUN AND IT WASN'T HEAVY

  • @jasonmeneses6659
    @jasonmeneses6659 Год назад +2

    Gracias 😊😮

  • @Mitchel6489
    @Mitchel6489 Год назад

    I watch a lot of react videos, I gotta say you guys are pretty smart due to how quickly you guys catch onto things. Or even just remembering references from older movies.
    That or you prewatched =P

  • @cyl_genderfluid-furry
    @cyl_genderfluid-furry Год назад

    Watch Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Hank Pym Ant-Man and Janet Van Dyne wasp are legendary on that.

  • @ar1029
    @ar1029 Год назад

    Some great and underrated movies to react to:
    Reign of Fire
    The Book of Eli
    Heat
    Nope
    Hansel and Gretel
    Constantine
    The Prestige
    Intouchables
    Zack Snyder's Justice League movie
    Ex machina
    La Haine
    Lord of War
    Kung Fu Hustle
    The Abyss
    The Thing
    Ghost in the Shell
    30 Days of Night
    Kill Bill Vol 1&2
    V for Vendetta
    Amelie
    A man named Ove
    OZ 1982
    From Dusk till dawn
    Hanna
    Elite Squad (Trapa De Elite)
    Lucky number Slevin
    Revolver
    The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black
    Hellboy

  • @omarsoliman2355
    @omarsoliman2355 Год назад

    I took people to this when it opened. And they could NOT believe something as simple as ANTMAN could be so interesting. I said that was the thing with the original comic book stories. They were so well written to make the characters interesting that you could not take your eyes off of them. Both Antman movies were fantastic!! Well made and full of great ideas and real human drama,...... and comedy.

  • @Hoood98
    @Hoood98 Год назад

    How do you just guess that they was setting him up to steal the suit. You had to have watched it😂😂😂 vids are great though 😂

  • @karterporter8463
    @karterporter8463 Год назад

    There’s also two other movies of ant man when y’all get to Watch them

  • @stacyw1357
    @stacyw1357 Год назад

    Captain America Civil War is next