How to REMOVE RUST for $1- (HOW TO CLEAN A GAS TANK) - motorcycle gas tank pt.1
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How to remove rust from a gas tank with The Works cleaner. This method of how to clean a gas tank significantly better and more cost effective than any other method to clean the rust from your motorcycle gas tank. Thanks to Luis for helping out with this video.
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Hey guys thanks for this video! Just used this method on the tank for a 2012 Honda Shadow that sat for about 7 years. Worked great and I couldn’t believe how much rust came out! I put in an inline filter as part of the project and now she’s running great with no hesitations or lurching. Thanks!
You 2 were high af when you shot this be honest
Touch muchh talking. Get straight to the point .
Lmao i saw this comment 1 minute in....2 minutes in i knee exactly what you were talking about
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I'm high af watching this to be honest
Lmao. No cap all facts.
When diluting acid with water, you should ADD ACID AFTER the water.
Acid is more dense than water and mixing water with acid is exothermic (generates heat) and it has potential to boil off violently if water is added to a concentrated strong acid.
The risk of a dramatic reaction is pretty low, especially with dilute weaker acids. However, it is a good habit to add the acid to the water, not the water to the acid.
Okay so anyone reading this, you need to finish cleaning the tank with phosphoric acid, which is used in "rust converter" and auto body self etching primer, or Royal Jelly. You can use Muratic acid concrete cleaning acid which is hydrochloric acid. But dillute it some with water. And then don't leave it in very long because hydrochloric acid dissolves iron and steel. But the key is to rinse it out with water. Then do the same cleaning with phosphoric acid. If the rust isn't that bad you can start with phosphoric acid only. The phosphoric acid doesn't eat the clean good metal, it only removes the iron oxide (rust). The phosphoric acid turns the free iron on the surface of the steel into a hard rust resistant form of iron which is dark grey. Similar to when you blue a firearm. It's called passivation. The surface becomes more resistant to oxidation. After the phosphoric acid you'll not need to worry about it rusting unless you didn't clean the rust fully. Open non treated rust must be removed for the phosphoric acid to properly seal the metal. Hydrochloric acid does seem to remove rust very quickly although it's very aggressive and you'll want to start with a very weak solution first. Too strong of HCL acid and you'll burn through your good metal if you leave it sit too long. HCL is the same as stomach acid and our stomach acid can dissolve solid steel.
Could you do this with a bike frame?
@@joelominator7752 I have been using 10% double strength vinegar for rust removal, it works well as a soak, but its too thin to spray onto stuff for rust removal. Then I discovered that adding enough detergent to the vinegar causes it to turn into a foam when sprayed on it sticks to surfaces. I used an 'earth friendly' toilet cleaner which contains 10% citric acid, oxidants and detergents as the detergent, it worked very well and increased the aggressiveness of the acid. I would be extremely careful to ensure you're only adding acid and detergent though, many people don't realize that accidentally adding even small amounts of bleach to vinegar can produce lethal concentration of chlorine gas.
I scrubbed through the video to see how they applies the rust converter, I was disappointed to see they skipped it entirely.
Appreciate the gems 💎
What if I just get really drunk throw up in the gas tank and leave it overnight,?
This worked like a charm! I did one to one and left it over night. Cleaned it with a pressure washer the next day. I had to go to lowes to get the works. Used a plastic bobber to plug the hole on the bottom of the tank.
I was NOT expecting to find a Rose Anvil video about how to get rust out of a gas tank when looking this up!
Before you add the Oil to the tank to preserve it, dry the tank completly with a hair drier. This way the tank will be completly dry when the oil is added.
Then it will already be flash-rusted. Much like using isopropyl alcohol on water-logged electronics, the acetone they suggest will help evaporate the water and leave the oil.
Thanks guys. Working on a 77' Honda cb125 and had no clue how to clean a tank out haha! Its my first bike 😂
Wow, I just got a 74 cb350 same issue
Same but a 74 cb200
81' Yamaha virago 750 here..
And I'm about to have a go at a '71 CB 125 !
cb 550 1975 here
I just cleaned two metal outboard motor tanks with vinegar. Tanks look like new inside now. Cheap, quick, and easy.
Did you use white or yellow vinegar 🤔
@@glasswinder white
@@tomcarter4617 thanks.
@@glasswinder anything?
Vinegar only? Or did u add something?
If you're not using too much Marvel Mystery Oil with acetone, you can actually fill up the tank with fuel and use that to clean the rest of your fuel system. I've done that several times with motorcycles
If you are trying to REMOVE A TANK LINER i just posted a video on how to do that! Link - ruclips.net/video/6Q0WwfL_1F0/видео.html
Can you explain how you used the marvel mystery oil/acetone/baking soda after you used the works to neutralize the tank?
And how do you get all the water out after washing the works out, before you use the mystery oil?
I need to know that too. Can somebody explain how they use that to flush and neutralize inside the gas tank.
@@zackamburgey2164 I believe isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) will work for water displacement.
i guess it's kind of randomly asking but does anybody know a good place to watch newly released movies online ?
Don't give your cat a bath in the same bin that you use for chemicals...this is what happens 5:40
Bro that's dirrrty 😂😂😂
Say it ain't so. Bro!
Lol I dig the look
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Do you use this stuff to bath your cat as well?
These guys make such a cute couple, you can tell they really love each other.
I have a CB 77 tank that I currently am working with,. Time is on my side so I am going with white distilled vinegar,. I started with the nuts and bolts to shake out some rust. Unfortunately we are staying home with the pandemic and my wife can’t go shopping . That means I can’t sneak an hour with the dryer to tumble the tanks with bolts and nuts so I did it by hand. The vinegar has been soaking for four days and I could still see rust on the sides of the tank through the full tank of vinegar. Then came a stroke of genius. I got an old U shaped grill brush. and cut one side of the wire off and straightened the brush out which made it twice as long. There is no part of the inside of the tank that I can’t reach and scrub down. I can already see the rust gone. I am going to let the tank soak for three more days and continue to scrub with the modified grill brush. Then I am going to clean out with Arm and Hammer washing powder to clean the tank and neutralize the acid. I will then evaluate to decide ifI will need a tank liner or not. If not I will use a little kerosine to soak into the tank to stop rust . For safety I will use a couple of external fuel filters before cranking up the bike. I have rebuilt the carbs and petcock so I want to be careful.
Really appreciate this video. Im working on a Ninja 500r currently with a rusty gas tank.
When you did this , did you leave the fuel pump!?
well if you have not addressed the tank yet you may want to check this out.
www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/vintage-motorcyle-info/143692-oxalic-acid-new-life-rusted-tanks.html
I have used a heat gun on low in the cap opening on low to dry the tank . Works pretty good.
Worked wonders! I used a Lysol toilet cleaner. The ingredients are different but the main one - the hydrochloric acid was the same. For some reason the Works was like $13 so I got the Lysol for a couple bucks per bottle.
Did you still do 1 jug to 1 water? Thinking of doing this when I get home from work
Great video I just dumped diesel fuel in mine. Already had it its oil it, rinsed with gas good to go. Thanks
How long did you let it sit with diesel before it cleaned all the rust out?
how does diesel work?
How much Baking Soda do you put in the tank when you rinse it out?
I use 1 can wd40 and handful of nuts and shake and a magnet on a string to fish out the nuts works every time
howietorock same, but I wire it onto the front of a ciment mixer, does the shaking for me, I'm a lazy fuck !
I did the same thing with paint thinner and a bunch of steel bbs. Shook the hell out of it.
Washers would work well, chain is alright to.
Put all the nuts on a long lazy loop of string. Much easier to get them all out.
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Always clean lightly rusted metal with phosphoric acid. This is what they put in self etching primer and rust converter gel. You can clean and seal steel by cleaning it with phosphoric acid. Hydrochloric acid does remove rust but it also opens up the metal to rapid flash rusting and basically ruins the integrity of the metal permanently unless you polish the metal or wash it with phosphoric acid. The phosphoric acid closes the pores of the metal. The hydrochloric acid opens the metal. This isn't scientifically accurate but it's basically how it works. Phosphoric acid converts the free iron into hard rust proof metal which is less prone to oxidation.
I'm a mechanic but i always have respect for people that know their chemicals and how to use them, shit i cant even mix Kool Aid correctly.
So use phosphoric acid to let it sit and get clean instead?
Pickling vinegar works as well.
I tried vinegar and did not rinse and coat with oil so I had a light coat of rust appear. I rinsed the tank before following this video and the rust came off easy. I did pour half a container of the works and it really did take off all of the rust with ease. Hope this helps.
So you just poured vinegar
Great video guys, and yes your cat stole the show
I mixed hot water and boiling water 50:50 with rad cleaner crystals to speed up the reaction. Also, after neutralizing and flushing out the tank with water, use alcohol to get rid of the water in the tank.
That’s what the acetone in their oil mixture is for. If you evaporate the water first it will flash rust.
I just went and got "THE WORKS" And its $2 a bottle,
Sir, I went to dollar tree and got it for 1 dollars .
Lmao
Can confirm it’s still a dollar at Walmart. 3/23 🤔
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It's not a long term fix. It'll rust again if you don't constantly ride with full tank of gas. One thing I did to make it lasts longer was coat the inside of the tank with ceramic coating. No more rust again
How to do that
@@wanderingengineer6168 Just pour the thing in the tank and drizzle the tank by spinning it, shaking it. The tank must be dry and free of grease before application
Better use phosphoric acid like the bike manufaturers. This will leave a inactive protective layer on the metal which prevents it from rusting. Thats the grey layer you see when you look into the tank of a new bike.
I wouldnt coat the tank. This stuff will flake off causing you trouble later on.
I stripped the inside of my tank many years ago using a similar method. I just pour a cap full of two stroke oil in at each fill up (or when I get home). The oil coats the tank and helps prevent rust. My tank is still rust free!
@@TepcoCycleRepair my two stroke metal tank has rust.
I use aquarium gravel and paraffin it works a treat, then rinse out with some petrol ⛽️
This helped me with my first mini bike, the tank was trashed with garbage everywhere inside.
I'm gonna give this a try on an old 1983 Suzuki GS750ES I'm restoring....thanks!...and your cat is adorable :)
Lol I’m doing this for a gs650g - it seems lie the gs series is seeing a wave of revivals
@@oscarschott7047 I think so! The 1983 750ES is the only year of that bike. I started working on it just to get it out of the garage, but in doing so I've fallen in love with it! It's such a cool machine! An icon of the era!
@@pam6886 how did it turn out for you? I might do it on my gs500E(R?). Just wanna know how well it works first.
thanks for the vid! just got my first project bike (2005 vstar 650) for free and she had some rust in the tank
FYI folks the main active ingredient in most toilet bowl cleaners is hydrochloric acid. If there's any chance the rust situation in your tank is severe enough that the metal could be thin you may want to start with vinegar or a milder acid.
Thanks guys, just what I was looking for.
I recently tried this on a 1976 Yamaha RD200. I've done another tank with similar age but with muriatic acid. The muriatic acid worked way better.
this also cost like 10 bucks lol
i just tried this tonight, i used 2 bottles and the rest water on a 4.5 gallon tank (2000 gsxr600) hopefully i used enough to make a difference. ill know tomorrow.
Cool let me know!
@@RoseAnvil it didnt "work" so well, trying it again with six 6 bottles and the rest water tonight. letting it sit for till tomorrow. ill report back back tomorrow
@@soulgivesoul07 and
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matt toronto how did it do with 6 bottles?? I’m doing the same time with my 09zx6r tank it holds 4.5 gallons
I'd like to know if the works and water in a 5 gallon tank worked. No hurry i can let it sit for a few days. I have 8 bottles of the works.
"you're gonna wanna do this outside"
Does it inside
lol thanks guys this worked on my honda shadow tank, great idea.
I just get a handful of small stones and put them in the tank and shake it looks like new
You guys rock and your Cat is awesome. I love the lets get to "works" comment. LOL
You guys are two wild and crazy guys.
By using water or water based product. Wouldn't that cause more rust in the future?
I wonder the same thing. Can someone please provide us an answer?
@@yokakeshinowakane if it’s not completely out and you neglect to get gas tank liner... kiss your gas tank goodbye. If I were in your shoes again I would spend the extra $5 and get the right sealer
What do you use to “seal” the tank afterwards?
Any asnwers?
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@@cl5314 👍🏻
You guys rock i hope it works well for me but you definitely impact knowledge I must confess. .. Thank you
Did you say to mix the marvel mystery oil with acetone? If so at what ratio?
Easy peasy. And funny. Thanks guys!
Definitely gonna try it.
What was the ratio for the acetone and MMO. How long did you leave it to soak and did rust Start to come back. And can you leave some of that mixture in there and mix with the gasoline. I'm trying to do this to my truck gas tank
Sooo... how do you seal your tank afterwards? What product should one use that won't be broken down by the gas?
Red kote or por15. Heard red kote better
Cool video. I’m guessing muratic acid might work quicker and more efficient. Just a thought. Might also be cheaper since you would dilute the muratic acid
I've been using muriatic acid acid for cleaning tanks for years... Muriatic acid is hydrochloric acid. I also wear a respirator when working with it, pretty nasty stuff.
do you coat the tank with marvel mystery oil too right after?
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2:34 love the Pineapple Express quote :)
Thanks guys I need to do my Harley that rusted after I had a heart attack and a shop wanted $400 if I brought them the tank!
I used coke a cola and it worked like a charm! Not toxic wow glad I don’t drink this stuff! Clean as a whistle after 2 days
What a gorgeous tank
Thank you. Amigos for the information.
How I did it: Remove tank. Remove petcock, and tape closed. Partially fill the tank with small gravel and sand. Shake a lot. Pour out sand. wash out tank. DONE!
What happened... the gravel and sand essentially "sanded" the inside of the tank while you shook it.
If you use copper BBs, all you need do is blow out the dust after. But I kinda like your sanding concept in the tight corners. P.S. I love you.
Is it okay to do this while the fuel pump is still connected
Chuy Alvarez I made that mistake with my bike and vinegar as the acid. Definitely remove your pump, you don’t want it damaging those components
Good video that provides useful info. Thanks !
The cheeky little ron Swanson shot😂
You can also us Muriatic Acid.
So I did everything you said so far leaving it overnight after I dumpnout the cleaner and rinse it out do I put the baking soda in first then the oil or do I put the oil in then the baking soda? And do I leave the baking soda in and oil on or do I rinse it out like how does that work?
YES. CL450! Tank.
I wonder if CLR would work?
Good video Guys, quick and to the point..
So between this and the Apple Cider and Gas Combo The Apple Cider Combo got my vote and they did it on a 80s never been cleaned tank. What do you guys think.
I like white vinegar discarding it is safe.
i had no idea that you worked on motorcycles, i came to know you channel as that guy who reviews shoes. lol
yeah.. but what do you do if tank is part of the bike frame? not much i guess
It’s a bit lengthy but if I were you with My Moped, I would take off all the big parts and do it that way. It’s 2 days over having a good gas tank
Love the Dr Buzzard music
Nice. Recommended for water: 99% isoprophyl alcohol.
Yeah he knows how to “plug the peacock hole” a must for anyone that might soak corks, in acetone or bathroom cleaner wakawaka
What ratio of oil and acetone did you use?
Dont pour a tank full of vinegar and leave it for 2 weeks and i also think something should be said about the reactivity of this to aluminum parts so if your tank has internal parts like gas guage or petcock this could produce negative results in other ways you might not expect.
Wow! Great cleaning Idea. What did you do with the works fluid?
Put it in your toilet afterwords
wont this just flash rust if you dont seal it after?
the works has hydrocloric acid in it. which takes iron oxide and converts it into ferric chloride and water. then it attacks the pure iron.
it leaves it exposed to flash rust. I doubt any of the other chemicals in works have any protective effect on bare iron.
I've used hydrocloric acid to remove rust in tanks before. you need to seal it with Red Kote.
wash out the acid with water, drain water rinse with a little bit of acetone, drain and pour in Red Kote. its acetone bases so any remaining acetone only delays drying by a little bit.
That tank looks like its from an old honda cb400, am I correct?
Mrdubomb pretty sure old CB tanks (pre 1980) didn’t have any hose lines
Thank you, safety first.
After this treatment, isn't the bare metal liable to rust again very quickly? Don't you have to coat the inside of the tank?
Yes it does it's called flash rusting and it's reaction can be super fast, its the same deal with a sand blasted finish ! You need to be on the ready with an airline (if you have one) & plenty of paper towel to dry it as quick as possible, use a hairdryer to help evaporate the water you can't get to, immediately smother it with a light oil to protect it from further flashrusting until you're ready to use the tank.
Also a good idea to keep your fuel tank full as much as possible.
@@kougerat5388 Thank you
Apple cider vinegar works better and a safer (for humans and metals) than other chemicals. If you have a bare tank (no paint) i would also use electrolysis. My two favorite ways to treat/remove/reverse rust.
How did you dispose of the toilet cleaner? did you just dump it into the toilet?
Did you use distilled water and baking soda to flush/neutralize the tank? I am going to try with white vinegar. Looks like the "works" did a good job. So if you leave the" works" sit longer it should do a good job if there is a lot of rust? If the vinegar does not work then I will try the "works"Good video very informative.Cheers
I am going with the vinegar only because is cheaper to buy than the "works"Cheers
@@RoseAnvil Dont use white vinegar, apple cider vinegar works far better, trust me on that one. However, electrolysis is even better. Get an old sears battery charger (manual) 6amps and youll be amazed on the quick results. Vinegar takes too long and isnt good on all metals (aluminum).
Rust removal is a useful video, but a cleavage video sounds more entertaining 😉
I used vinegar then acid worked well but more money and more work
My favorite part was giggling over the name of a hole.
I had used muriatic acid, left for a day, cleaned out, and then used a fuel liner( year ago). Don't use a fuel liner, I'm now cleaning out the tank again, and have to replace the fuel pump and fuel cap due to clumps of the liner and rust. 05 r6.
May try this method.
Also you didn't say how much of the marvel oil and acetone to use.
I used pink looking liner many years ago, worked well.
red kote never fails
Can we do it with harpic
How do you guys neutralize and wash the tank? Every time I wash it after pouring out the acid (vinegar) it flash rust..am I not doing it quick enough?
Do you think works would work on a stainless steel 30 gallon fuel tank.
It's very grimy inside
Fuel sat for a long time
I have a Kawasaki Vulcan, which needs this treatment, but the problem is the fuel pump is mounted on the bottom of the tank, and removing it before treating the tank is going to leave a big opening. Just turn the tank over! Yeah, only they you've got the acid eating into the gas cap's rubber seal. Short of removing the pump and cap and submerging the tank in a 30 gallon storage container full of bowl cleaner, can you recommend anything? Thanks.
Must to close all holes on gas tank and than add 3-4 litres of toilet cleaner is enough. Shake it about half of hour and rise by water and immediately dry by hairdryer.
White vinegar and BB's.. Shake well let sit a few days shake more then hot air gun to dry.. then coat the tank.
Electrolysis can be used on tanks. Just done a 50 ltr tractor tank in 8 hrs.
hello hello can i use the same method t clean the inside rust from a radiator?and if yes i need t find some cleaner hith hydrochloric acid in?
Great video guys, love the cat and casual approach...from the look of the ingredients it says 'Sulfuric Acid' rather than the stated 'Hydrocloric Acid' in the video...could you please clarify? Sorry I must have looked at an old image...found another listing Hydrocloric...thanks
According to its Material Safety Data Sheet, The Works contains 9.5 percent hydrochloric acid.
Hi, could the gas filter cause slower the flow of fuel to the motor?
No, well technically yes, but...
Any decent filter will have plenty of flow, don't get something from the $1 store or made for RC cars.
You have a lot of excess capacity in that part of the system. Go ride as hard as you can and see how long it takes to use a gallon or gas. Now unhook the last part of your fuel delivery line and time it draining into a bucket or can.
Sony A7 camera right? That was amazing footage at 3:45 when you show inside the fuel tank in perfect focus.
I need to do this on a 2008 Suzuki M109r boulevard, Will this treatment damage the float that’s inside the tank or the fuel pump, the fuel pump is extremely rusted, thinking of rebuilding it.
Will rubber work as gasket when blocking petcock hole with metal? I'll use 50% Works with distilled H20, will check after 4 hours, but may leave overnight. Don't want to lose solution, will save for another tank.
I know it’s been a long time, but how were the results
jeeez..twist up another one fellahs. best cheech and chong imitation I've seen in decades.. good on ya.
Well ventilated.
Mate will Harpic work...
I think yes
I just added 4 bottles to my tank, I really hope it works?
Did it work ?
I tried it on some rusty nuts and bolts just to see if it took the rust away. Left it over night the rust got worse. Worst then what it was. Without diluting with water.
Will it still flash rust if you don't use any water, just The Works?
Nice video, thanks guys
could you do this to a rusted bike frame?