How to use copper spray gasket maker on head gasket
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Cylinder head gaskets made of multi layer metal sheets can benefit from the tacky copper spray cylinder head gasket maker. This can be used for exhaust manifold and other high temperature applications. Buy a bottle -
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I have fresh machined 1974 sbc block and heads. Bought felpro gasket set supposedly premium and the head gaskets are just steel shim stock (.015” thick). Inquired with felpro and they said to use a spray on sealant (such as the copper coated sealant). So that’s straight from felpro for the 7733SH1 steel head gaskets.
with the multi layer steel head gasket which this appears to be, you have to make sure the heads and block are as flat as possible. Otherwise you will be sorry as it will leak and overheat. Take a straight edge, measure the surfaces and half the tolerance of the OEM service manual provides for the factory composite head gasket.
What an awesome and detailed video. Got all my concerns answered. Thank you
Wow !!! Very well explained, every detail covered. Fantastic job man... Thankyou
I sprayed 2 cans all on the inside of the motor too, my car has never gotten hotter than 140
Very good. Easy for beginners to understand
How's the head gasket holding up with that copper head gasket spray from Permatex.
I love watching people spray the head gasket block and bottom of there head for extra insurance they say lol
Excelente vídeo! Tks for teaching😅
Thanks for the clarity in your great video on Spray-A-Gasket (copper) Reusing a gasket that has done only 15 mins max , this will save me approx., over $ 200- for a new one , yes a ridiculous price . Caterpillar are making gaskets for the Aussie Ford Falcon Barra engine now for the rev-heads fitting Turbos plus many dollars and getting over 1000kw . It has become the 'go to engine' for a wide range of vehicles. Mine < 200kw is just perfect . Thanks again 10-10-2023
Great video 🏆
Thanks for correcting us now
Thanks mate
That style of unsupported cylinders are so prone to head gasket leaks if they get hot.
I thought you weren't suppose to use this on MLS gaskets that were already coated
You are absolutely right. I hope everyone listens.
Let me understand this properly. You just spray a head gasket? How this supposed to help?
I ain't no expert but I'd only use copper spray if I'm forced to reuse a metal gasket
How’s it holding up a year later? How many miles?
about 2k miles, holding on fine no issues so far. car not winter driven.
@@wisemonkey1551 cool thanks for the update!
I wish you well but would never use that spray myself & have built many motors. Why did you choose to use it? I personally think it's not a good idea. You'll probably be fine since you're not racing, but why did you choose to use it? @@wisemonkey1551
its not a gasket maker its a sealer
The service manual says never reuse gaskets. It says not to spray any other spray gaskets on genuine gaskets.
It also says to only use the expensive oem fluids or it will break the motor.. but you can put the equivalent knock off cheap stuff and get same results.. service manuals also tell you to take apart a whole bunch of stuff to do certain jobs when u can bypass much of it and finish in a fraction of the to time..
Must the spray dry 1st before installing head?
yeah took 3 mins to dry but it stays soft which is normal
@@wisemonkey1551 thanks after torqueing down i let engin sit for a day..... been running good for the past week.... no leaks so far lol
@@babelonchabalala1690did u spray it on a mls gasket?
Honda F22 ??
Isn't that for gasket that made of other material, not metal?
The label on mine says for metal, paper, and cork
how was the result?, do you think it was worth using the spray?
Hell no never use this shit, this guy didn't even need it and added it anyways...now he's going to do another gasket soon...this is ridiculous.
@@thedude3189 RUclips nothing but back-and-forth opinion on every every every consideration. every science, every engineering back-and-forth back-and-forth….
@@thedude3189 yup and don’t use it on a mls gasket 😂😂
@@thedude3189 Some where in the comments or video the op says that he had used just the mls gasket before and it leaked again. With the sealant it lasted at least 3 months. I asked for and am awaiting an update as more time has passed.
I bought copper spray and then spray on my new gasket but leaking again. my friend said clean copper spray on the with clener. so I paid cleaner for clean copper spray on my new gasket. Installed gasket and start engine. WORKING FINE.. you want to pay copper spray? you want to pay copper spray cleaner? ha ha ha ha.
Or it could be that the first time you did not torque the headbolts right. You have few variables there really. Thin copper sprayhas five start rating for a reason I think. Mine is still going fine without any leak.
get to it bruh godamn
Too heavy a coat. Gasket ridges usually face Up
When doing any cylinder head use new bolts always warm the engine up shut it of next day when the engine is cold drain the water out of the engine break the bolts off not all the way leave a little tension then re torque the bolt to yeild it will last forever after doing that the the bolts stretch a bit after warm up and causes uneven tention.
"Warm engine up and shut it off next day?
@@brandonknight7240 Damn these phones always alter the words but you get what I mean warm it up shut it off and the next day when the engine is cold break the bolts off and do them again diesels can be different and requir a certain temp to do it petrol engines are easy.
One bolt at a time.
Ha Ha Ha, sure thing.
Nop, not on a Toyota or Lexus.. the valve gasket must be on before first start. The book says do not warm and torque down the second time. The manual points out that working the head down once is sufficient. As a matter of fact most modern engines do not recommend twerking down the head a second time. That is why the MLS gasket disused. Working the head down the second time with an MLs gasket in place can in fact damage the MLS gasket.
Thanks for the info💯🙏🏽I have a Quick question. I have HEAVY White smoke, sweet smelling Coming out The Exhaust of my “2011 Jaguar XJL 5.0” so I poured blue devil into my coolant reservoir (I didn’t drain my coolant before adding Blue devil, also had a sealed Radiator) Anyways I closed the coolant cap as soon as I poured the in & drove for about 30 mins, Next day later? My car just makes a 1 Click noise!! &Jump the car nothing Same Loud “1 CLICK”😢 What may have happened? (Also Car oil burns in under 3 days, and coolant reservoir becomes underfilled in 1 day) Also do you think it was my upper intake manifold? Blue devil May have sealed my cylinders stuck? How do I fix?!? Plz help?🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😭
coolant oil mixed inside the engine. That stop leak went in the engine probably seizing up the main bearings. Sorry but instead of adding a stop leak (it does not work with leaking head gasket), you needed to do an immediate engine head rebuild. Now probably a full rebuild or replace the engine with a known good one. I would verify first and then if seized, replace it.
So I didn’t have Coolant in my oil, but it was burning coolant. U think the sealant sealed the pistons to the cylinders?
I hand cranked clockwise 3 times before it got stuck. Idk what happened but I didn’t remove the spark plugs when doing so. I did hear air coming out of one of the cylinders when hand cranking
Is there something I can pour into the cylinders to free it up while hand cranking?
@@michael-johndunning882 If you didn't figure this out yet, you could have vapor-locked the engine. This entails massive mechanical failure, namely bent rods among other potential failures. You need to be shopping for a new, functioning engine out of a wrecked vehicle. Don't take anyone's word for the engine's running condition. View it yourself or get a 120 day warranty with it.
Hi..this thing really pissed me off ..i assembled the engine and the unanswered question is when can i start the engine..you know i have done a lot of work and i don't want to ruin everything due to lack of instructions..!
U can turn it on as soon as you're done putting engine back together
6-8 weeks should be enough
The rule of thumb on this procedure is the following, remove the heads and clean them excessively. Clean the engine block top mating surface excessively covering holes so you do not get debris down in them. Place the MLS gasket on the head block. Then place the head back onto the engine block making sure it is Louisville. Place all the bolts in the hole and you may or may not choose to use assembly Lube on the head bolts. If you choose to use assembly Lube, you may need to add one extra ft lb of pressure. The assembly Lube can change a torque specification. After putting all other parts to include valve covers back in place securely so that they do not leak. Fill the engine block with oil has normal. Do not fully start the engine at this point! Next make sure the engine is full of a oil by checking the dipstick. Locate and remove the fuse that goes to the ignition computer. This will require doing research to make sure you unplug the correct fuse so that the engine cannot start you do not want the spark plugs to receive Spark. Attempt to start the car. But do not want it to start the point to let the engine Rev one or two complete start Cycles, what this means is pressing the button if it is a button start to allow it to attempt turning over once or twice if your car does not stop attempting to Stark press the button again so that it will stop. This is to circulate fresh oil through all of the parts of the engine because in most cases when you remove the heads it will drain oil from many locations that require oil when starting. One example would be Toyota engines that are the 2GR type. These type engines must have the lower oil pan and the timing chain cover removed before replacing the head gasket. You must ensure that you get plenty of oil circulating through the into block and all the way up to the valve cover so that it will feel the VVT mechanism. Replace the fuse he removed to keep the car from starting. As long as your engine block did not make any unusual noises while allowing the engine to turn over without starting then you are ready to proceed. After you've replaced the fuse now attempt starting the car for the first time. If the car starts successfully with nohad noises other than an occasional ticking sound because many of the lifters are now filling with oil. It should complete the process. You might like too loud the car to warm up for a full 30 minutes s so that you can check for leaks.
Your question is a good one, that sealant does need to cure... which is why folks like me never use it. I've never seen it used except in racing motors when re-using multi layer steel (MLS) gaskets, when the $40 new gasket wasn't in the trailer.
Can this only be done on a metal head gasket ?
Both metal or aluminum
@@wisemonkey1551 my head gasket is like a fiber material not metal
@@ducaduke maybe that is valve cover gasket, because head gasket use metal
@@danaranalengpe9079 Thats not true, most head gaskets are composite which is fiber. Only some newer engines use MLS (Multi layer steel)
@@arbit3r WRONG, MLS head gaskets are available for most engines, even 100yo Ford engines. Hell my 96 Miata has a mls head gasket.
You don't let it dry? How soon after putting the coated gasket on can you run the engine?
Eye wanna know too!
2minutes max
Label on mine says let dry for 5min till tacky. Then torque down within 2 hr
Those are NOT dowel pins. They're dowel SLEEVES. Pins are not hollow and will not allow the cylinder head bolts to go through them.
Wrong! guess you have not seen all heads.
@@yeahrightmate What does ANY cylinder head have to do with whether it's a dowl pin or a dowl sleeve. It almost sounds like your not even qualified to comment in a comment section.
Well they're all called dowel pins. Symantecs. Lighten up and read the definition of a dowel pin
Get over yourself
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It's not about strength. That partially liquid copper spray fills out the micro gaps between solid metals head. There is soft aluminum gasket at higher prices. Everybody type of brain gives a wise analysis on everytopic these days! That's the magic of the internet. Sad.
Head gaskets used to be copper. You could heat them up with a torch to make them soft and reuse them.
I disagree, if it worked better then factories would use it. I would try if I had a badly corroded block or head that I knew would probably leak & I wasn't racing. I think it exists because some motors & heads are badly pitted, not because it helps good surfaces. I wish you well tho & your motor will probably be fine. You did a good job cleaning the surfaces & aren't pushing the limits of it. I race & would never do that. @@wisemonkey1551
Today the only folks using copper gaskets machine slots in the block or head. Then they install a custom ring into the groove to squish the gasket & never re-use. They are racing. Old motors had crazy low compression compared to today. @@tortron
@@ohane1 yes I have vintage cars with about 8:1 compression and copper headgaskets. But also use custom copper gaskets on high compression motorcycles, or when it's hard to get one for a "modern" car
You are making a big mistake! You are using a multi layer steel head gasket. They are not supposed to be coated with ANY type sealer. They require a super smooth surface where you cannot see any machine marks. Almost a polished surface. Using sealer will prevent any heat expansion movement and it will cause scuffing of the gasket surface and premature failure. GOOGLE are you supposed to use any sealer on a MLS gasket and you will see that i am right.
my previous attempt was clean as you wrote. And it failed as fast. That's why using this copper spray gasket maker this time. so far its working fine. Copper has high heat transfer ability and hence what you said about heat is not correct. Cheers
@@wisemonkey1551 will it help on a resurfaced head but block not resurfaced?
@@wisemonkey1551 i cant find composite gasket so imma need to use mls but will the cooper spray help?
COPPER HEAD GASKET FILLS IN INPERFECTIONS ITS ALWAYS RECOMMENDED !!!!
ITS MORE OF A SPRAY THEN A GOOPY SEALER THERES A DIFFRENCE
I use it every time never fails stops future oil leaks from the head also very good stuff I also do the manifold gaskets I've got a car with a 8 year old engine still going strong no problems nice video.
Nice job on the Permatex head gasket copper spray painting! [OOOO]🧴