I feel like if you go down the "Create your Faction" focus in this part of the tree, there would be at least (small as it is) a way to super-influence the nation lands you released into being communism and when they turn communism either a choice or an auto "Join your Faction". Then something like, after they see the light of communism" maybe that influences the French and British island (that could be formable nations) into asking their overlords (France/Britain) to be free. If they say yes, (Paradox would probably low roll that likelihood) then they would also get influence from the Netherlands to become communist and join the faction. (Even perhaps some of the nations around Indonesia too.) Though yes, something along the lines of shared resources with those released nations would be nice. Either forever or like for the next 2-3 years / until war is declared on the Netherlands (if not in a faction.)
just an FYI the germans wanted to conquer us in 2 days they failes so they bombed Rotterdam to such a state nearly nothing was standing. this was the 2nd biggest city at the time and gemany was thrreratning to bomb the 3rd largest city Utrecht as the wanted to preserve amsterdam. thus the netherlands surrendered on the 4th day of the war.
Netherlands didn’t really fold. They kept the bridges tenaciously, then Germany literally leveled Rotterdam by carpet bombing it until it had three standing buildings. The fires burned for weeks. Then German high command said ‘surrender or we will do the same with Amsterdam’. The paperwork was done in hours.
I agree on the comment about communism(tm) not always meaning decolonization. I find it weird paradox insists on almost all communist paths entailing decolonization, before the world wars, and even still before ww2 almost no one in western metropoles would have been willing to just give up the colonies, even on the pretty far left en of the spectrum. we can even see what happened to colonies after a historic successful revolution: the Soviet Union did not let go the Stans or Siberia, which for all intents and purposes were Russian colonies before the revolution, but rather made them fellow soviet republics. I find it much more believable, that almost any European communist revolution would at maximum have resulted in guided "socialist" independence, but more likely the same attitudes towards natives would have prevailed just with a red coating on top. Would make for much more interesting paths that dont feel like punishment if the player were to be allowed to have at least some input on the colonies, maybe making them into "sister republics" or something.
Historically the dutch communists at this time were very decolonial. In fact a member of the CPN is also represented as one of the available advisors, anton de kom. He was a black surinamese communist who had written books about decolonisation and was actually killed by the germans during ww2
actually it's very much based in communist thought of the parties in western colonial powers, whilst some thought they should lead the colonies into communism alongside the homeland most were very much advocates of decolonization,
@@joshsatanson635 I dont think we dissagree substantively here. No matter how enmeshed you are in early to mid-twentieth century european colonial culture, you can not plausibly be simultainiously of the opinion, that you are a communist, and that colonies are good. I think thats clear. BUT what decolonization looks like is very much not predetermined in the way hoi makes it be, i find it not believable at all, that any communist revolutionary governemnt would not at least make an attempt at steering the revolution towards its ex colonies. Hoi just literally plops out nations with random ideologies.
@@ComCommie Thanks thats interesting. I feel it though to be unrealistic, that any succesfull socialist revolutionary government would turn around to party members hailing from the soon to be ex colonies like de kom, and just be like "thanks for helping with our revolution, good luck bro" obviously at least some effort would be made to assure colonies do not become independent as reactionary monarchies or fascist dictatorships, at least in that way hoi should change things. I hope we can agree on that at least. I still feel that material conditions would have dampened real moves towards independence though, and that history would show my idea of quasi independence or sister republic status to have been more likely (no socialist revolution ever anywhere has resulted in minorities/oppressed peoples being granted independence) but well we can disagree :)
Naval Reform doesn't give ticking exp, it buffs whatever naval xp you're already getting. Unlike the Air XP Independence Branch spirit which does give ticking Air XP.
@@zedenzel6083 when i worked with the dutch army there was a guy called koekebakker. His rank was captain. Always makes me crack up when i think about it. He was a total badass to i might add.
Just to say I really enjoy the longer format videos. We get an insight into what is actually going on and not just a "I reckon we can encircle them" and a cut to where they are encircled.
Great playthrough, for anyone annoyed with spies getting captured or killed all the time you can set them to "quiet network" after building up your network to keep all the bonuses and prevent being captured in the future. It also works wonders when you have at least 3 total so the other two can be set on repeated collaboration governments for a "set and forget" thing you can do.
The pronounciation of the kool in koolhoven is closer to coal. With regards to "zeven provincien" phonetically i'd spell it out as "zayven province-ian" crisis jaren would be "kreesus yahren" i ofcourse know ya don't care but i like my country almost as much as the blue emoji.
We held out for like 5 days they bombed one of our major cities razing like half of it and the said either surrender or more will follow. Brittain still owes us for the jacobite rebellion.
49:13 just fyi, you can set your planes to train even without air superiority and they wont take more damage than accidents or you could've just let them sit in the airport till you had a couple hundred and just put them up to contest air during particularly hard push
The reason the UK stopped trading is the 'faction traitor' modifier... which ironically you got when they kicked you from the Allies. The game for some reason sees this as you leaving during a war, which is beyond stupid and needs to be fixed. Whenever you're not democratic, you're better off not joining the Allies. That way, at least you can trade and are more likely to get lend leased. Fun fact: the Netherlands held surprisingly well, and the main German paratrooper operations failed. Many were taken captive and shipped to the UK as POWs. The Germans fell behind schedule so much that they completely flattened Rotterdam by carpet bombing, and then threatened to do the same to the other major cities to force a surrender. While the Dutch air force and anti-air inflicted disproportionate losses on the Luftwaffe, they were massively outnumbered and were powerless to stop the waves of bombers.
FEEDBACKGAMING: Why ai keep sending NAPs on the other side of the world... meanwhile feedback gaming as america now disallowed to send NAP to asia and Europe 😂😂
Ooh yea and historically the Dutch surrendered because the Germans deleted Rotterdam of the map by bombing and threatened to bomb other cities until surrender.
Communism' is about workers owning the modes of production and running the state. It grew from a hatred of capitalism and monarchism so they are inherently incompatible. That and communism' does have some nationalism in it, but only for colonized and conquered people. Once a nation is truly free from external influence it sheds all sense of nationalism. That's why communists refused to support their governments in WWI, because they refused to support arbitrary governments run by hereditary monarchies and "democracies." They saw themselves as working class first. Nationality is meaningless to communists, the ultimate goal is to eliminate all forms of government, borders, states and hierarchy, which they share with anarchists, the difference between the two is how to get there. Hope this helps!!
18:44 not really, most of royalties in a communist country tend to suppress the spread of communism so when the new government take over the head of the royal family will rightfully so be tried as a war criminal. not all of them tho, one of the popular example was that one Chinese royalties that become a normal citizens and join their government, forgot the name. And the colonial thing, it doesn't really blend well with the idea of communism, that's why the soviet help quite a lot of ex colonies in their war of Independence. Most of the popular communist ideology back in the day were globalists and internationalist anyway, with the rise of the idea of international proletariat. Colonialism really unpopular in communists society
That would be Puyi, last Qing Emperor and later Japan's puppet emperor in Manchukuo, who was imprisoned by the Soviets from 1945-1950, when he was then transferred to the PRC. The PRC then imprisoned him in a reeducation camp, the Fushun War Criminals Management Centre, for a further 9 years.
Am czech, i spent some months in netherlands and i love the "hoven" in names. It means kind of "shits" so basically you could translate "kool hoven" as "cool shits", "eindhoven" sounds like "one shits" (german) and i know there was one more that was also funny, but cant remember now. Yeah, childish humour xd
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I feel like if you go down the "Create your Faction" focus in this part of the tree, there would be at least (small as it is) a way to super-influence the nation lands you released into being communism and when they turn communism either a choice or an auto "Join your Faction". Then something like, after they see the light of communism" maybe that influences the French and British island (that could be formable nations) into asking their overlords (France/Britain) to be free. If they say yes, (Paradox would probably low roll that likelihood) then they would also get influence from the Netherlands to become communist and join the faction. (Even perhaps some of the nations around Indonesia too.)
Though yes, something along the lines of shared resources with those released nations would be nice. Either forever or like for the next 2-3 years / until war is declared on the Netherlands (if not in a faction.)
What is bros obsession with the scheming blue emoji recently 😂
it runs the channel now
It is the feedbackgaming now…….
Always love seeing a video where you have to scrape and claw your way to victory, really makes the end game feel better. Well done dave.
Thanks for being a member and taking advanage of early access
just an FYI the germans wanted to conquer us in 2 days they failes so they bombed Rotterdam to such a state nearly nothing was standing. this was the 2nd biggest city at the time and gemany was thrreratning to bomb the 3rd largest city Utrecht as the wanted to preserve amsterdam. thus the netherlands surrendered on the 4th day of the war.
Netherlands didn’t really fold. They kept the bridges tenaciously, then Germany literally leveled Rotterdam by carpet bombing it until it had three standing buildings. The fires burned for weeks.
Then German high command said ‘surrender or we will do the same with Amsterdam’. The paperwork was done in hours.
I agree on the comment about communism(tm) not always meaning decolonization. I find it weird paradox insists on almost all communist paths entailing decolonization, before the world wars, and even still before ww2 almost no one in western metropoles would have been willing to just give up the colonies, even on the pretty far left en of the spectrum. we can even see what happened to colonies after a historic successful revolution: the Soviet Union did not let go the Stans or Siberia, which for all intents and purposes were Russian colonies before the revolution, but rather made them fellow soviet republics. I find it much more believable, that almost any European communist revolution would at maximum have resulted in guided "socialist" independence, but more likely the same attitudes towards natives would have prevailed just with a red coating on top. Would make for much more interesting paths that dont feel like punishment if the player were to be allowed to have at least some input on the colonies, maybe making them into "sister republics" or something.
Historically the dutch communists at this time were very decolonial. In fact a member of the CPN is also represented as one of the available advisors, anton de kom. He was a black surinamese communist who had written books about decolonisation and was actually killed by the germans during ww2
actually it's very much based in communist thought of the parties in western colonial powers, whilst some thought they should lead the colonies into communism alongside the homeland most were very much advocates of decolonization,
Generally speaking too, Communist revolutions generally require a destabilization of the home state which encourages colonial independence
@@joshsatanson635 I dont think we dissagree substantively here. No matter how enmeshed you are in early to mid-twentieth century european colonial culture, you can not plausibly be simultainiously of the opinion, that you are a communist, and that colonies are good. I think thats clear. BUT what decolonization looks like is very much not predetermined in the way hoi makes it be, i find it not believable at all, that any communist revolutionary governemnt would not at least make an attempt at steering the revolution towards its ex colonies. Hoi just literally plops out nations with random ideologies.
@@ComCommie Thanks thats interesting. I feel it though to be unrealistic, that any succesfull socialist revolutionary government would turn around to party members hailing from the soon to be ex colonies like de kom, and just be like "thanks for helping with our revolution, good luck bro" obviously at least some effort would be made to assure colonies do not become independent as reactionary monarchies or fascist dictatorships, at least in that way hoi should change things. I hope we can agree on that at least. I still feel that material conditions would have dampened real moves towards independence though, and that history would show my idea of quasi independence or sister republic status to have been more likely (no socialist revolution ever anywhere has resulted in minorities/oppressed peoples being granted independence) but well we can disagree :)
Naval Reform doesn't give ticking exp, it buffs whatever naval xp you're already getting. Unlike the Air XP Independence Branch spirit which does give ticking Air XP.
Yeah I misspoke. I meant to say it gives more to ticking XP on top of what you're already getting
I realized at 46:38 that the guys last name is Pannekoek which means Pancake... what a name to have
Now I'm hungry
You'll have a blast with the Dutch spy names then!
@@zedenzel6083 when i worked with the dutch army there was a guy called koekebakker. His rank was captain. Always makes me crack up when i think about it. He was a total badass to i might add.
@@OMGitsJelleyour last video being 10 yrs ago lol
Girder 1 followed by cement mixer 2 always makes me laugh. In the US we call girders I-Beams. As Dave would say - “You do you!”
Just to say I really enjoy the longer format videos.
We get an insight into what is actually going on and not just a "I reckon we can encircle them" and a cut to where they are encircled.
In this episode, Red is the new Orange.
Netherlands can't deside what colour they want to be
@@FeedbackGaming Not as much as whether or not Churchill wants to be friends with you!🤣
The worst part about the AI kicking you out is that if they kick you out, they consider you a faction traitor.
Great playthrough, for anyone annoyed with spies getting captured or killed all the time you can set them to "quiet network" after building up your network to keep all the bonuses and prevent being captured in the future.
It also works wonders when you have at least 3 total so the other two can be set on repeated collaboration governments for a "set and forget" thing you can do.
you keep the nation bonuses but I thought it didn't do the entrench/planning part of it
The pronounciation of the kool in koolhoven is closer to coal. With regards to "zeven provincien" phonetically i'd spell it out as "zayven province-ian" crisis jaren would be "kreesus yahren" i ofcourse know ya don't care but i like my country almost as much as the blue emoji.
I love the blue emoji
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The kick from faction shit must be fixed before i ever pay for another hoi4 dlc.
Ah yes, nothing better than a 1:17:04 video of hoi4 for my birthday
You always find a way to have fun with the worst paths known to history
Thanks for being a member and taking advanage of early access
We held out for like 5 days they bombed one of our major cities razing like half of it and the said either surrender or more will follow. Brittain still owes us for the jacobite rebellion.
>least played nation
>doesnt play botswana
disliked and clicked off the video
Botswana exists? WRONG WRONG WRONG
52:00 not singlehandedly! Tons of Commonwealth and exiled troops helped Britain!
1:44 there's two pointers, i thought the tiny one was a fly on my screen at first, lol
51:05 Greece pushing into Albania? Historic accuracy is on point
WHAT? a mountaineer unit in the Nederlands? Go home, AI, you're drunk!!! ^^
Haha I don't know if you spotted it but the land route for steel from the USSR was going through Italy!
49:13 just fyi, you can set your planes to train even without air superiority and they wont take more damage than accidents
or you could've just let them sit in the airport till you had a couple hundred and just put them up to contest air during particularly hard push
"followed by cement mixer" got yourself a like
cement mixer meta
The reason the UK stopped trading is the 'faction traitor' modifier... which ironically you got when they kicked you from the Allies. The game for some reason sees this as you leaving during a war, which is beyond stupid and needs to be fixed. Whenever you're not democratic, you're better off not joining the Allies. That way, at least you can trade and are more likely to get lend leased.
Fun fact: the Netherlands held surprisingly well, and the main German paratrooper operations failed. Many were taken captive and shipped to the UK as POWs. The Germans fell behind schedule so much that they completely flattened Rotterdam by carpet bombing, and then threatened to do the same to the other major cities to force a surrender. While the Dutch air force and anti-air inflicted disproportionate losses on the Luftwaffe, they were massively outnumbered and were powerless to stop the waves of bombers.
18:26 most political scientists consider North Korea a sort of Communist Monarchy.
That Doom music was hilarious. xD
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Benelux has the best HOI color.
Chinese Empire looks better imo
It's G O L D
Also Emperoro Puyi has the best drip of all Hoi 4 monarchs
Lol, he said, "banging at the backdoor."
hehe
1:44 Why there is 2 mouse cursor hmmm
Hi Mr Feedback, I really really enjoy your longer form videos (hour plus) and was wondering if you’d consider playing Canada for one of them.
You sound like one day you are going to go get milk and cigarettes and never come back lmao
The smug face at the start was explaining the video
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Find yourself a girl that loves you like Dave loves the devious blue emoji
can you please make a guide about best fighter, cas, medium tank and space marine designs?
Did this path a few montsh ago for achievements, was very fun, destroyed both USSR and Germany
Have you ever thought of play the ww1 mod and hoi4 kaiser Reich mod. Might be fun minmaxing them.
Dont forget next time that you can release suriname ( if you dont go through a civil war ) before switching communist you will.actually keep it :D
From gekoloniseerd to not so koloniseerd
FEEDBACKGAMING: Why ai keep sending NAPs on the other side of the world... meanwhile feedback gaming as america now disallowed to send NAP to asia and Europe 😂😂
Can u do a facist usa playthrough?
U said u read every comment.
NOTICE ME SENPAI!
SURE! Very OP
@@FeedbackGaming awesome sauce
You could have tried to hold the whole front so you meet up to the Maginot
I don’t know about Britain single handily fighting back.
The blue emoji stole my wife
I find it funny just how done you clearly are before you even start the video. Testing the route finished your line before you even started the video.
so still no noth borneo company in game
Ho Chi Minh said
At first patriotism. Not yet communism.
Bro you're not that blue emoji, trust me pal, you're not that blue ball.
6:00 Most painful focus for me to click. Sad boy hours in here.
Russian Communism: Workers of the world unite!
Dutch Communism: Workers of the world, you are on your own...
Hey @feedbackgaming have you ever taken on the Soviets on max difficulty as Finland?
ur kidding. literally right after i grinded treading the narrow path. aghhhhhhhhhhhhh
What would happen if you tried annexing the Dutch east Indies before the communist focus? Would it still free them or is it a work around?
Ooh yea and historically the Dutch surrendered because the Germans deleted Rotterdam of the map by bombing and threatened to bomb other cities until surrender.
500 hours in just the netherlands i like playing my home country i've never touched the commie path.
I wish I could play this game I've tried to just to much guess I'll have to continue playing eu4
Hey Dave! Can't you just annex the Dutch East Indies before doing the focus?
You okay dave? you sound a little sick
Play any WW1 hoi4 mode, feedbackguy
21:36
the companies, the communists nationalized??
Yes, Monarchism and Communism aren't mutually exclusive. Just look at Germany.
they are if you're not chronically online
@@ComCommie It being clear is obvious if you aren't. Whether or not it is compatible doesn't care.
Blue guy is Dave’s rat.
Yeah they can coexist its called Monarcho socialism
one friend to me have a better tactic, with paratroopers to get france, germany and uk in 1939.
Talking about out your “A”
Press 5 on your keyboard or numpad for "bonus"
Communism' is about workers owning the modes of production and running the state. It grew from a hatred of capitalism and monarchism so they are inherently incompatible. That and communism' does have some nationalism in it, but only for colonized and conquered people. Once a nation is truly free from external influence it sheds all sense of nationalism. That's why communists refused to support their governments in WWI, because they refused to support arbitrary governments run by hereditary monarchies and "democracies." They saw themselves as working class first. Nationality is meaningless to communists, the ultimate goal is to eliminate all forms of government, borders, states and hierarchy, which they share with anarchists, the difference between the two is how to get there. Hope this helps!!
@@matthewmoreland8119 this guy takes on politics always leave me like this: ._.
did you get your google ad bullshit figured out?
Yeah a while ago 😭
hello feedbackgaming
18:44 not really, most of royalties in a communist country tend to suppress the spread of communism so when the new government take over the head of the royal family will rightfully so be tried as a war criminal. not all of them tho, one of the popular example was that one Chinese royalties that become a normal citizens and join their government, forgot the name. And the colonial thing, it doesn't really blend well with the idea of communism, that's why the soviet help quite a lot of ex colonies in their war of Independence.
Most of the popular communist ideology back in the day were globalists and internationalist anyway, with the rise of the idea of international proletariat. Colonialism really unpopular in communists society
That would be Puyi, last Qing Emperor and later Japan's puppet emperor in Manchukuo, who was imprisoned by the Soviets from 1945-1950, when he was then transferred to the PRC. The PRC then imprisoned him in a reeducation camp, the Fushun War Criminals Management Centre, for a further 9 years.
can you reform persia? video
Day 4 of asking feedback to try the millennium dawn mod.
This makes me wanma sigma all over you
Am czech, i spent some months in netherlands and i love the "hoven" in names. It means kind of "shits" so basically you could translate "kool hoven" as "cool shits", "eindhoven" sounds like "one shits" (german) and i know there was one more that was also funny, but cant remember now.
Yeah, childish humour xd
Nd as i was living near eindhoven we used to say "lets go to Zweihoven" or "Treihoven" meaning "two shits" and "three shits"
CK3 when???😂
86 views in 2 minutes. feedback has fallen off
never stop falling
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